10 Games Where You Ended up Being The BAD GUY

[@KAAAAAAAAGH]

NPC: "i trusted you..." Me, a heartless bastard: "thats your fault, not mine"

[@gameranxTV]

😆

[@Assassin60099]

Dang this doesn’t have much comments

[@setster007]

@@Assassin60099 No

[@slimclarence]

@@setster007 lol

[@neko6458]

@@slimclarence why

[@colin8570]

Bio shock infinite: start the game confused, end the game so much more confused

[@shakesfirst2443]

Nope, It was a piss easy game to predict.

[@Polex411]

Actually its confusing cause the ending isn't what it seems. really Elisabeth is the bad guy cause if you pay attention nothing she does is dimension jumping but everything is actually realty warping. this is evident in how you see what's happening through out the game.

[@DR.K14]

@@shakesfirst2443 well Mr Genius I guess you're too cool for us 🙄

[@ThrottleKitty]

@Stonkis Bonkis Yeah, it's just his weird head cannon, there isn't even a popular fan theory about her being the villain. Also, it's pretty solidly confirmed her powers are opening gates in space and time, given how you encounter songs from the 1940s in the 1920s setting. Finally she's spent her entire life trapped, and had others using her for her power, (primarily your character) so it's kinda the video game equivalent of victim blaming to try and see her as the villain. Her actions are somewhere between heroism and self defense.

[@justabloke2966]

@@shakesfirst2443 well aren’t you fun

[@jasonsimon5508]

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight

[@itsmb8]

ngl ive used that phrase EVERYWHERE.

[@youknow2849]

Cliche

[@reconcaptain2041]

Actually it was batman that said that. He said that to Gordon

[@PrinceGummy]

I have a Dark Knight, it can Rise

[@subfail4810]

Worst part about the Sif fight is that (if you played the DLC) Sif remembers your scent and that you saved him. So in a sense, Sif fights you to protect you from being taken over by the Abyss like Artorias was.

[@twinarcher8123]

This video makes me think of a quote. "Everyone's the hero in their own story." -Handsome Jack

[@zyourzgrandzmaz]

yeah was about to mention borderlands

[@Spideryote]

It really puts into perspective why some people act the way they do They can't comprehend the fact that everyone is the protagonist of their own story, meanwhile they're nothing but a footnote in the lives of everyone else

[@whatdoesthisthingdo]

I feel like a side character in my own story.

[@opduck1048]

Good game miss him 😔

[@sikswitch1334]

I prefer my own " Once a hero,forever a villain "

[@toadjones7979]

"Dark Souls is basically a game where no good guys exist" Solaire: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@KaiserSenpai420]

PRAISE THE SUN!

[@antonrader]

I read that as solitaire lmao

[@the-suspect]

Solaire and Onionbro!

[@samr9457]

What about pinwheel Or sif

[@kintama3453]

I like Siegmeyer more than Solaire

[@koala_nerd2703]

The dialogue of the enemies of Neir automata truly made you feel like a true villain and absolutely chilled

[@the_color_blurple]

I just remembered a Terraria theory i read on Reddit where you are actually the bad guy for killing Wall of Flesh and releasing the spirits that were being held back by the spell made by the Lunatic Cultist or the WOF itself. The Cultist boss just before you spawn the pillars makes alot of sense too because they're just trying to keep back Moon Lord from killing everything. This us just a theory though and as far as I know there is no canon lore for Terraria.

[@leannebarker7917]

But you do end up defeating moonlord so you could end up being the good guy at the end

[@jokeofacity6717]

I feel like I also have read that same theory, but I think that's actually part of the calamity mod lore. In vanilla, the cultist were actually trying to summon Moon Lord back to his realm. Probably that's why we fight Moon Lord in his broken state; he hasn't fully recovered yet.

[@GNackers53]

I nominate Little Nightmares: a game where you play as an "innocent" little girl trying to escape a ship of cannibals, only to find out that the character you are playing as is a potential threat to the outside world.

[@AnggrekBiru]

I think they already fore shadowing that with the tittle "little"nightmare wich implies to Six (the girl) because all the enemy was big , and you can't call big wierd People "Little" Nighmare, it must be Six

[@cashbanucita0025]

Little nightmares has no heroes or villains it's a world of shitty people

[@donuttybro7286]

@@ahmohnke1217 shh don't spoil it

[@armanmaleki128]

@@ahmohnke1217 i think this is a spoil :/ i haven't started second game yet

[@donuttybro7286]

@Jisatsu same here

[@psychosight3800]

The "Spec ops the line" one is pretty obvious but the execution of the reveal and how they did it still amazes me to this day

[@oktaperdana9414]

that white phosphor scene tho

[@ironized]

@@oktaperdana9414 came to say this. That was the point the plot spoiled itself haha

[@smoovehomie]

One of the most under appreciated games. i still remember the words “Do you feel like a hero yet?” in the loading screen. i was like “huh, wait what 😳”

[@S_U_C_K_I_T_U_P]

Spec Ops is still my favorite game to give anyone PTST in neeed of it.

[@ironized]

@@S_U_C_K_I_T_U_P yeah remains one of my favourites.

[@woweee7165]

"The world is depending on you" GTA 5: "Let's rob a bank and ruin civilisation"

[@maximaldinotrap]

How does that ruin civilization?

[@thelonelibra8455]

You're always the bad guy in gta lol you are a criminal so that doesn't work here

[@luvyuuki]

its more of a necessary evil, or a lawful evil near the doomsday heists

[@mindlessdrivel9029]

No, this just sounds like Payday 2

[@813GC]

The fact that Prototype didn’t even make the list is criminal…

[@DIEDIECANNON20XL]

I find "amnesia" to be kinda a cop-out tho...

[@ItsYuhBoyyyy]

The real bad guys are the friends we made along the way

[@SiPakRubah]

So, we make our own enemies?

[@__SunFlow__]

This was a horrible context to use the whole "friends we made along the way" thing

[@AG-zw4of]

Dimitri in gta 4 for example

[@dakodablack7312]

Aot in a nutshell

[@AlqhemyA]

*Hol' Up*

[@daltonm9420]

What's actually really interesting about the fight with Sif in Dark Souls, is that if you play through the DLC before fighting Sif, the cutscene changes for when you do. He know you helps is master and he loves you for. He only fights you because he feels like it's the only way to stop you from going down the same road Artorias went and becoming corrupted by the Abyss. Sad stuff.

[@velocitysmoke5806]

It's why I loved the early fable games 1,2 specifically being able to choose evil or good and how it affect how the npcs would react to you . Do to many evil deeds your character grows horns do only good things you get blonde hair and a halo

[@hughsolmon6623]

Joel from the last of us trying to save Ellie but dooming the entire planet paints him a bad picture

[@jakzak23]

There is not a single clue that anything of they would do to her would happen to be meaningfull.

[@mango_raider4116]

@@jakzak23 yeah its literally some desperate med school drop out doing experiments in a rundown hospital with a zero success rate at the point he meets ellie. there was 0 chance he would harvest her and actually succeed that time

[@jktuert8630]

He didn't doomed planet tho. Just fckedup creation of vaccine.

[@jakzak23]

Yeah, on a fuckin mushroom.

[@zimo9714]

In farcry 3 u switch from being a person trying to save his friends to a ruthless murderer

[@wesleygetsinger1859]

How?

[@navykaze6660]

Dude, theyre pirate, theyre like criminals... is that supposed to be badguy?

[@swapneelbhadra3947]

Well, you have a choice and it's upto you what you become at the end

[@DSkulle1]

@@swapneelbhadra3947 also, the game called out simping early. if u stick with the chick, you get stabbed XD lesson: never betray your friends for a random chick you met in the forest

[@fabledragon7343]

I wanted to post this.Also im gonna explain this better basically you were sky diving and you fell into a trap by a guy named Vaas .He captured all your friends .You were in a cage with your brother and eventually escaped ,but your brother was shoot by Vaas... After that you were seeking for revenge and wanted to save your friends, but became no better than Vaas... killing hundreds of poeple with no mercy.

[@tylerjackson2667]

What about Roller Coaster Tycoon... I mean, we've all tried to commit some form of mass murder in that game right... or is it just me.

[@jashardwallington]

My lawyer told me not speak on that

[@PopTap]

@@jashardwallington well I’m your lawyer’s lawyer and I told him to tell you to tell us your details. P.s. my lawyer told me not tell my name because I’m your lawyer’s lawyer and we can’t be in a lawyer conflict and such lawyer problems.

[@akumabazooka9169]

@@PopTap Damn the lawyerceptionism

[@djames6043]

It gets real on Zoo Tycoon.. Especially if you get that dinosaur expansion

[@aarondixon1589]

I don’t have it but I would if I did

[@kirkian1828]

if you ever do another one of these vids, consider OFF by Mortis Ghost! A lot of it is kept vague and creepy, but towards the end it becomes pretty clear that actually the character you control, the Batter, is the maniac who needs to be stopped. AND it gets meta - because only you, the player, can stop him. It would be awesome for you to bring up another old-ish game to the spotlight!

[@DD-nb9rn]

2:38 Revan wasnt exactly the bad guy. The only reason he turned to the dark side was because he met the Sith Emperor Vitiate in Unknown Space and knew that the Republic was currently unable to match Vitiate's Sith Empire, so he came back to try to make the Republic stronger by conquering it and turning it into an EMpire

[@MikaeruDaiTenshi]

I also argue that the this game doesn't deserve to be on that list, mainly because you don't "end up" being the bad guy, but you "WERE" the bad guy. Though, you still can be the bad guy by taking the dark side path, but that doesn't count, because then you're bad the whole game. About Darth Revan not being the bad guy, that's argueable, or let's say, a matter of perspective. I'd even argue that most Jedi are bad guys, because they force their rules on you, and don't allow emotions because they "can" lead to evil. In fact, it's their reaction to emotions that leads to evil, not the emotions themselves. Well, maybe except anger and such, mostly because they're 1. treated wrong, and 2. literally feared by the council. the irony is, fear is also an emotion that "leads" to the dark side.

[@Calekoflight]

That seems to be a big recurring plot trope in Star Wars. In the old Legends continuity, Big Papa Palpatine saw some greater outside threat that would destroy the Republic if it was left in it's current state. Yea, Papa Palps was evil as hell but the Republic was a stagnant mess of bureaucracy and corporate greed.

[@hercufles]

@@MikaeruDaiTenshi I know its a year old post sorry for necroing, i disagree with you because the jedi want there members force there rules because have you seen how powerful the force can be its like giving someone a nuke, people do can do stupid thinks because an emotional moment, look at anakin killing whole tribe of sand raiders.

[@dustinhurst759]

If you play a game long enough, you eventually become the bad guy

[@bilal6865]

Underated comment 😂

[@NaughtiusMaximmus]

Skyrim, basically

[@josedanielherrera7115]

Totalitarian Tetris

[@criminalchicken499]

Yeah. Gonna replay that game again soonn@@NaughtiusMaximmus

[@ncpdswordshielddivision2240]

Im the Bay guy...? *PERFECT!*

[@burnedmyfoot]

"Booker, are you afraid of God?" "No, but I'm afraid of you."

[@lankyimnida595]

this line still gives me chills

[@xsargantxshaftx7997]

@@lankyimnida595 sammmmeeee

[@kintama3453]

Bioshock infinite one of the best games ever made

[@Drewupanew1]

This was one of the most powerful lines in the whole game. Elizabeth eluding to the fact that she is going to do what is morally right.

[@cjmk5923]

@@Drewupanew1 Subjective... Booker is technically not the bad guy he has the potential to become the bad guy. The ending of that game sucks because it says no matter what choices Booker makes in life he is always going to become a monster. Even if his choices up until that point were those of a good person. Except we know you can possibly change things just not this for some reason.

[@Ghost-Song7714]

Honestly I’d go with the game Nefarious I mean, it’s literally the plot, you’re the bad guy trying to capture all the princesses. Even if you change your mind in the good end and stop your evil secretary from using your evil plan to take over the world, you’re still the bad guy kidnapping princesses, one of which you kidnap far too often for her to become hilariously used to it and even consider you a friend of hers. Plus, the bad ending was also memorable because it basically the depicted the outcome of the main character’s motives, like taking over the world, the princesses are sealed in crystals, you’re the worlds scummiest villain.

[@ImTheStrongest]

Mario thinks he's saving princess Peach but what he's really doing is trying to break up Bowser and Peach's relationship. He also goes around killing defenseless creatures and eating mushroom people.

[@mr.o467]

Am I the only one who likes to be the vaillain sometimes, like I'm the good guy too many times

[@toonmarekingiii8575]

Yeah

[@juststatedtheobvious9633]

I feel like every AAA game that isn't Nintendo forces me to be a cynical asshole or a bad guy.

[@toonmarekingiii8575]

@Jailan Ellison cold war sucks ass

[@matthewcheramie2358]

Fr

[@josephamaya9774]

Not really no I like being the good guy

[@hydro5760]

"In a world without gold we might have been heroes" -Ed Thatch AKA Blackbeard Assassins Creed IV Black Flag

[@ysaww4573]

damn even thinking about that part makes me cry

[@smoovehomie]

One of my favorite Assassins Creed games!

[@hydro5760]

@@ysaww4573 ;(

[@ishan_karma2794]

Never thought Black Beard's gonna die in the game, but damn every single one of the friends Edward had died horribly

[@hydro5760]

@@ishan_karma2794 ikr

[@megapro125]

I think the Spec Ops: The Line twist would have had a lot more impact if there were hidden choices that allow the player not to do all the evil things and figure out alternative solutions. If the game forces you to do all these things to progress in the story with the only alternative being to quit playing the game and then tells you to feel bad about it it doesn't really work (for me at least).

[@vinikampferherzbarros27]

But that's the point of the game: there are NO good choices in war. You create an illusion of being a hero but in truth you are only killing.

[@liamnehren1054]

I thought the point with Braid was that time powers literally destroyed their relationship and made him out as a creep. I never bothered finishing the game as the ending was spoiled to me but early on the main character's memories state as much, suggesting that continued use of his powers whittled away at whatever relationship they originally had until she didn't know him. kind of like how Bill Murray at the end of groundhog day knows everything about everyone in that small town and if he handled it at all in the wrong way he would come off as a total stalker for knowing so much. Edit: In fact the true ending as the fandom page puts it is that the princess explodes when Tim touches her, something he is unaware of during the game, he then reverses time and the false ending of the knight taking her away is the only option. Suggesting he didn't want them all to die and probably didn't know it would happen. In this ending it is kind of suggested that the princess knew that it would happen? probably a reference to time paradoxes destroying the world. If he in fact reversed time in an effort to save her from the monster bosses seen in the game, saving her would create a paradox of causality as people understand it erroneously. (if I remember correctly it would just create a secondary universe where Tim killed them and she was unharmed) Imagine that he tried to save her from a trauma before they met which was when the bosses say marred her features or something else horrible and so he deleted their relationship and couldn't accept that he kept coming off as a freak when he tried to rebuild it without the natural progression of events or even changes to her personality caused by the trauma. That could explain her running away even if she didn't know about the paradox and still paint Tim in a good, if tragic light.

[@good4nothing580]

A way out the ultimate betrayal

[@MarcDurtOficial]

Finally someone commented about A Way Out!

[@sesshonuyasha]

i have been wanting to play that one ? is it worth it ?

[@good4nothing580]

@@sesshonuyasha fck yh m8 Get a good friend amd play with them trust bro

[@Thy_wheezy_lemon]

i got vincents ending i was vincent i'm probably gonna redownload the game just to play with my best friend just to see his reaction plus i like when he's overdramatic

[@lifeonmarsstillcancelledso2885]

And now, It Takes Two

[@liuner2479]

Man, I can still hear the last words of Bioshock Infinite's ending... "I'm both".

[@JustGromski]

Same

[@EbikeAdventuresSD]

One of the endings

[@Spartan8676]

That blew my mind as a young kid

[@Manganization]

I love the plot of Infinite

[@slightcurve98]

Bio shock infinate was unbelievable

[@dragoscilvio]

The very last Prince of Persia where you’re given the choice to either let the princess die to keep the monster sealed or save the princess and doom the world....that ending slaughtered my feelings

[@jharris3267]

The trolley experiment.

[@davidjones3165]

"Good, bad I'm the guy with the gun" Ash

[@stevo0009]

0:31 bio shock infinite 1:32 knights of the old republic 2:51 spec ops the line 3:59 shadow of the colossus 5:07 dark souls 6:41 crackdown 7:50 no more heroes 8:59 final fantasy tactics 10:27 braid 11:33 nier

[@blutiful5875]

I kept hearing "Gnome War Heroes" lol

[@Alpha-ol9iu]

stevo0009 you are a legend

[@Snyderverse]

Crackdown: A game where you work for an agency that supplies weapons to gangs, while you simultaneously fight those same gangs. The C.I.A. right now: 😰👀😶

[@akmal94ibrahim]

If this list is of the real world, the US would be no 1.

[@markredacted8547]

@@akmal94ibrahim agree and love your logo, do you think ferrari will bounce back this year? I'm excited for Mclaren

[@senorapples1115]

@@akmal94ibrahim nah that would be earth itself

[@94est.43]

@@senorapples1115 sure, but mostly the CIA

[@hejshshjejeheh5557]

It's obvious that the entire game hints that the C.I.A brain wash their own agents to make them do bad stuff to their world it's like the same plot of COD BO1 where the russains is brain washing ALEX MASON to make a sleeper agent to do bad stuff to U.S.A's team and the same thing happen in BOCW just like REZNOV said IT'S ONLY DIFFERENT FLAGS

[@MrInsiipid]

Absolutely LOVED that Tactics game as a kid, that twist hit me real hard. Left such an impression on me.

[@timboslice6071]

Your number one pick was spot on. Such great storytelling from a not so popular game.

[@endlessedge223]

Bioshock infinite was so amazing, yet underrated cause people have always just compared it to the 1st.

[@Lowrix100]

one of my all time fav games... the ambience and music and visuals are OUT OF THIS WORLD

[@nimanp-cy4rh]

and it was so complicated that i watched 2 hours of youtube videos to understand whats going on !

[@joshdean6243]

Definitely my favorite bioshock game I really love it

[@e3vL1]

Should have called it Bioshock 3. Assume same thing will happen to Halo infinite

[@neoandroid8586]

I dislike Bioshock 1 but loved Infinite

[@thehell36]

It doesn’t matter what game I’m playing, I’m always the bad guy.

[@justadictatorridingonanuke3714]

On rdr2 I would go on multiple murderous rampage every day and completely wipe out an entire towns population. Then when I reached chapter 6 I didn't go on a single one so I could get max honor. Then in the epilogue the entire American population was at risk again

[@novaenforcer1563]

Its not a crime until you get a trophy for being a shit person

[@lasttroll2513]

That’s for me too, I’m always the bad guy in games. Even good games.

[@greasygoose1322]

😂😭

[@Anonymous-Wolf]

@@justadictatorridingonanuke3714 with a knife

[@billcox8870]

Some of the games you covered have been covered by other KZbinrs in a similar listing but not all of the games. Nicely done

[@purevessel6026]

Npc:I... i trusted you Me:AND THAT WAS YOUR FIRST MISTAKE

[@mattb4129]

I kinda felt like the Forest made you the “bad guy”.

[@RoBeRtJones1994]

That shit was pretty damn deep in that game, fuck me, I felt like worst father of the year

[@samsherrington7423]

The twist in KOTOR stuck with me till this day, my 14 year old self, back in 2003 had no friggin clue. Fantastic game.

[@TomSir79]

It really is!

[@CelestialKingShawn]

Dang I was 3 lol.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

Same. That plot twist made me immediately replay it as dark side after beating it thr first time.

[@MBEG89]

Best plot twist ever, ill never forget that moment. That along with the depth of revans story in the second game really make kotor my favorite star wars era.

[@BrickedUpp]

Dude I was 8 when I played it in 2005 and it blew my little mind. Played it again as a teen and I picked up more subtle stuff and of course still blew my mind

[@TurtleTime26]

One game I'd like to give an honorable mention is No Straight Roads. In that game, you play as Mayday and Zuke, who are trying to fight for their right to play rock and roll professionally rather than converting to EDM like the other top stars of Vinyl City. However, they go to increasingly drastic lengths to not just do that but to dismantle the system that banned Rock in the first place, all without a plan and all the while leaving the city chaotic and lawless in their wake. The two don't become self aware of this until the final battle, when they're on the precipice of accomplishing everything they dreamed of, and only then do they undo their mistakes and try diplomacy instead.

[@austinhanson4041]

One honorable mention that blew my mind from my childhood is Heavy Rain. I will say Bioshock Infinite is my all time favorite twist, awesome!

[@nicholasmalkerson1684]

I know you don't play as him the whole game but the Haytham twist in Assassin's Creed 3 has always stuck with me. I still remember the achievement for it, How do you like them apples.

[@silverwolf2643]

Have you played Assassin's creed Rogue? That game can make you really question if there are any good guys in the AC universe.

[@tjking6494]

Bro fr!

[@JeffMSpiller]

I spent the whole time through this video wondering what rank Haytham's Templar reveal would show up as, because that's the worst one that I've played. Thanks for mentioning it here, at least!

[@tylerspencer4729]

I was kinda hoping to Detroit become human in this video. When one of the endings where Connor was considered a hero and saved all the other robots but then the people that made him take control of him and the rest of the robots basically having an army.

[@bornmonk4234]

That happened?

[@tylerspencer4729]

@@bornmonk4234 yup, look up all Detroit become human endings

[@harrisonburki2982]

Nah cos that’s only as being a bad guy as Skyrim or fallout or any other open ending

[@wtflolmau]

omg! I'm so happy you mentioned final fantasy tactics!! i feel like it's a very under appreciated game. and yes, mark is definitely the villain

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Yes and even the escapism is arguable, since the fantasy world is as real as the "real world" And this is just a choice between two words that are real. Stay in one and reject the other and you can actually choose which. Of course Marche must ruin the world for his friends.

[@shylogik]

I haven’t played final fantasy tactics but is it like Zelda links awakening? We’re beating the game means destroying the fantasy dream world and all of its inhabitants?

[@wtflolmau]

@@shylogik in the first game they are not sure but assume it will. though later on the sequel comes out and we see the world of ivalice infact went on (something mark couldn't have known)

[@canisdibellum790]

When i was a kid I played Dark Forces 2: Jedi knight and apparently used dark side powers too often...the scene where you behead your close friend and take over the galaxy like blew me away at the time

[@Chaos_Dragoon]

I would think prototype would be here since near the end, I believe you find out the guy you're playing unleashed the virus that plagues the city

[@DatNygma]

Yup

[@FYoCouchN]

Alex Mercer and he's the final boss of the second game.

[@akumabazooka9169]

@@FYoCouchN I really hope nobody yells spoilers. The game has been out long enough

[@SpikeTheWolf]

Best jacket

[@FYoCouchN]

@@akumabazooka9169 The shit is ancient at this point, but I'm only repeating as far as the reviewers had said without giving spoilers.

[@ariframennoodles8028]

1. Mario. Peach is actually underaged so Mario is gonna have a tough time in court

[@snowmanleblanc6053]

Lol

[@danielmallory4687]

15 in the original but 14-16 is avreage internationally 16 in most us states so depends on which countries he gets tried in

[@TheDiion_]

She was 18 in dog years!

[@paullangland6877]

Nah the legal age of consent in the Mushroom Kingdom is significantly lower lol And Peach mind you is actually thee lawmaker in the said kingdom too. lol but this is all in good fun.

[@themanman7642]

Peach is underage in her standalone game

[@tb124.gaming]

I was personally shocked when I played AC3 :)) you are used to being an assassin, and when it is revealed that you are actually a templar was mind blowikg for kid me

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Omg I love you, the first game that came to my mind was FFTA and you delivered :) Also you are the villain of Undertale if you don't play the pacifist because every other outcome makes things worse. And don't forget about Chaser, that game is great and you are... I won't tell :)

[@brandonstinson4988]

Only western version of Nier has you playing as the dad; the Japanese and remake is the brother's perspective.

[@HaohmaruHL]

That’s because of cultural differences people in the us don’t vibe with brother sister relationships like at all due to individualistic competitive nature of the western countries and instead they vibe with father son or father daughter. There are tons of other western movies and video games which exploit this father child dynamics to build a story. Those actually don’t work in Japan. In Japan sibling relationships are considered more sacred bond. Take any anime for example, there’s always brother sister plot device.

[@pochita6158]

Maybe he's both.

[@SarcasticDuck]

@@pochita6158 Do they have an hillbilly accent in the american version? XD

[@notkurumi]

Japanese had both dad and brother version...I dont get why people keep saying the dad was only western version while it wasnt.

[@robertgronewold3326]

The first game that ever caught me off guard with the main character being a villain was a JRPG for the GameCube called Baten Kaitos. You control the main character of Kalos (you, the player, are the role of his guardian spirit, and so he talks to you) and you basically trust Kalos completely, and then you get slammed in the face when it turns out he's working with the bad guys and manipulating you to gain power.

[@chasecunningham3381]

I knew this wouldn't show up because it's not the most popular game but absolutely this was the same for me. Loved the twist. Loved the game, shame it's not remembered well.

[@robertgronewold3326]

@@chasecunningham3381 Needs a rerelease on the Nintendo e-shop.

[@chasecunningham3381]

@@robertgronewold3326 That would be awesome.

[@kysewon]

Bro, I was just about to play Bioshock infinite for the first time and you're already hitting me up with this

[@sleazy_voiceovers]

Either you die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villian

[@booleaninfernusstudios5352]

Either you die a villain, or you live long enough to see yourself becoming a hero like Megamind

[@RainzWolf]

I was thinking: "I wonder if Nier is gonna make the list" behold! Its No. 1

[@cardd1577]

So the game is literally “dooming mankind to save your daughter”?

[@armanmaleki128]

I was thinking about nier automata must be in the List

[@akumakami9727]

@Wil E man what is give for a remaster set and/or a new Drankengard game! I played the fuck out of the 1st and 3rd one lol.

[@RainzWolf]

@@cardd1577 basically. thing is you, as the Nier and the player don't know until you see the "enemies" point of view... then you feel really bad for playing the game Highly recommend- also check out Drakengaurd

[@horcruxsoul2813]

Is NieR automica the game listed as #1?

[@theaviestofcados6017]

I'm really surprised that Heavy Rain wasn't on the list. Granted you don't play as the killer the entire game.

[@naytheg1]

ooooo i forgot about this one.another good game that should have made the list

[@greenmumin]

@@naytheg1 This guy missed a lot of games..

[@last-genrichtofen9360]

@@greenmumin it’s a top 10 list...

[@MikaeruDaiTenshi]

@@last-genrichtofen9360 it's an argueable top 10 list. (sure, pretty much every top XX list is subjective, but still)

[@nexamastuff6815]

These videos make me feel like i only play a few games even after i beat the game i still play it

[@helloworld1237]

Bioshock Infinite is to this day one of the best Stories I've ever seen! Someone should get M Night Shyamalan to watch it. So he knows what a good plot twist looks like.

[@yoshatabi]

I'm surprised Heavy Rain isn't on here.

[@JoshNowakisastud]

whole reason i clicked on the video

[@iliantenev2706]

@@JoshNowakisastud Me too,pal.

[@naytheg1]

i clicked on for god of war. but if kratos aint a bad guy then i dont know who is

[@-Violent_Chicken_Man-]

I clicked for hotline Miami 2

[@theyrbaning4751]

I wanted warcraft 3

[@juliantschope9672]

Heavy Rain is definitely missing in this list.

[@onurmusov1554]

Why?

[@juliantschope9672]

@@onurmusov1554 ***SPOILER*** Because the detective Scott Shelby you play as turns out to be the Origami-Killer that you've been hunting yourself the entire game.

[@aaronatkinson3050]

Little nightmares 2 has a similar ending to turned out mono was the slender man the entire time shocker

[@xeproject9]

Yeah, I was waiting for it to be on this list. I think it deserves it more than the FF tactics game.

[@Tiagocf2]

Wow i'm impressed you bringed up FFTA Such an aweasome game but i never hear people speaking about Nice video! :)

[@GeraldTheGenius]

Bruh...Shadow of the Colossus was one of my favorite games!! I never thought that I was the bad guy till this video. Now I'm contemplating my existence.

[@Vania1669]

The entire list i was like: where the hell is NieR Did not expext it to end up at the top.

[@psyguy37]

The tv show The Outer Limits (90's version) had a ton of episodes where the protagonist ended up being the bad guy. It had more unhappy endings then anything I've seen. Those were my favourite episodes as it's so uncommon in all media.

[@joebenzz]

All villains don't know that they are villains. Which somehow makes it tragic in a way.

[@peteralexandergraae2830]

My buddy once bought "the Handsome collection" and started playing "borderlands the presequel" before borderlands 2, because he thought that this was essentially borderlands 1, with a strange titel.

[@szymonlxl6004]

You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain

[@giannistsementzis7121]

"The witche's house". Never forget.

[@saradapagediocletian9707]

Shadow of the Colossus broke me when I realized the plot twist.

[@MrKurby-lv4cb]

In the Lion, seeing the rook get brutally bashed by a mob was terrifying

[@IcyLucario]

You're telling me the game called "No More Heroes" you aren't the hero? Shocking.

[@tag206]

Going into the Sif fight we all felt like bad guys, coming out of the fight we felt like even worse bad guys.

[@antanaspaskauskas9432]

Yes, especially once we knew the full backstory

[@MrQdiddy85]

The only problem with crackdown's ending is that like you said it comes outta nowhere like an RKO but you find out by way of an audio log during the credits

[@MrQdiddy85]

I wish we could get more games where we are the villain from the jump instead of the "hero" especially in games like Skyrim for example where I spend most of the game being Tamriel's biggest monster who eventually saves the world

[@palpatine84]

Let me guess: They're gonna talk about Spec Ops: The Line again.

[@eduardofernandes7889]

Of course

[@MrNote-lz7lh]

Well it is the only game of its kind.

[@vivianthompson9777]

I was really sad to not see Off included though I know it's pretty Niche, but just the dawning realization just before the final boss fight as I start to revisit areas to train and acquire items and suddenly realize that literally every area I past through crumbled into ruin in my wake was such an amazing and creepy twist I will never forget not even mentioning the ending itself where you as the player can be called upon to forgo the main characters quest and stop him at the last minute

[@JatanPassi]

7:41 when you say it like that it reminds me of Shadow of Mordor's quote Bruz: "Bright Lord Dark Lord same thing really"

[@dy7296]

When reading "Where You ended up being the bad guy" I immediately expected a Star Wars game to come out, because that's what the Original canon saga has been like... with most villains that were heroes or maybe sometimes heroes that were villains.

[@albertwesker2k24]

But Billie Eillish said she's the bad guy.

[@DatNygma]

She wasn't wrong

[@henrytownshend8862]

I wonder why she don't use the term bad girl instead

[@TheExigency]

@@henrytownshend8862 Pretty sure "bad guy" is just a saying

[@Himmyjewett]

@@henrytownshend8862 that's sexual

[@mitiamed]

Duh.

[@ladycarmillasanguina]

That was honestly the beauty of dark souls, there’s never one good decision. Dark souls 3 amplified that, but no one is purely good in that world. You do what is necessary just to survive or grow more powerful, I love it.

[@Rockergamer3210]

I'm surprised not to see Mortal Kombat Deception. That's a great example of the Villain Protagonist twist from my childhood

[@jesusatriste]

"At number 5 is.." cuts to ad "$5 cheesy gordita crunch box" what perfect timing

[@InfiniteDarkness7756]

I want more games where you know your evil from the start!

[@ianstevenson5103]

You’re forgetting talion from shadow of war he becomes one of the nine

[@ianstevenson5103]

@Rose -V!rG!N- S3X : TAP H3R3 ?

[@danielmaric3059]

He became good again after volcano erupted

[@kyrieervinjayboribor958]

It's a no choice celebrimbor abandon him it's the only way to defeat sauron

[@wilsonxavier8276]

shows why nolan films are perfetct with quotes "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

[@Dryllion]

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

[@ortiznikko]

I remember playing Spec Ops, thinking "Damn, what am I turning into?" Fantastic game

[@bisurker]

Thanks for showing some love to Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced. That game was really good and I feel like nobody ever talks about it.

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Yes, and Marche really is the villain, he clearly doesn't know what escapism means, because the fantasy world is as real as the "real world" it's just a matter of choice between two realities, who can blame them that they want to stay in the better world. Imagine you would have a chance, for example using a stargate to live in a paradise on a different planet that has everything you need. Both places are eral, but one is polluted, corupted, overpopulated and generally unpleasant and the other is the world of your dreams.

[@kalebwieland4938]

Warcraft III should get an honorable mention. At the time of its launch, not everyone knows that Arthas eventually turns into the bad guy unless they actually play the game (because, the internet was still a baby and new and stuff), but it took a while for the word to spread, and then Wrath of the Lich King was released, and now everyone knows who he is.

[@hirilyss]

Me: * reads the title * Also me: * has flashbacks of Heavy Rain *

[@Swift96]

At the end of the game inFamous, they reveal that the main antagonist is actually a version of the protagonist who traveled back in time

[@GraceofGod247]

Future Cole aka Kessler

[@JJJ-uo2xb]

I hate that no KZbin channel ever mentions this when they make this lists. :( Game is so underrated but the twist is my favorite like this ever

[@123Kotten123]

I would say Heavy rain counts in this case, thought it would be on the list.

[@iliantenev2706]

Me too.

[@AlienGhostie]

I was waiting for it to show up the whole video

[@ragequit6926]

Sif's boss fight in my first playthrough made no sense. The second playthrough I had played through and met Artorius at that point and its like a gut check.

[@chasedufty2406]

Fighting Sif still is so fucking heartbreaking to this day. Best boi in the whole soulsbourne series. Such a good doggo

[@smoovehomie]

“Do you feel like a hero yet?”

[@dallasmckim4370]

This is all your fault

[@danjones2701]

even the last of us 2. Ellie attempting to avenge him by killing his murderers 1 by 1 while you are simultaneously told the story of abby and why she could be considered a hero.

[@antoniomargallo5317]

The second time you play Spec Ops The Line ... it all makes sense and you feel so uncomfortable doing it. Best war game ever.

[@computergamer2356]

At first I honestly thought KOTOR wasn't going to be on the list but I am happy it was.

[@HitchcockJohn]

Assassin's Creed III starts off by casting you as someone who is apparently an assassin sent to Colonial America to do assassin things before you get through the first act and find out you've actually been playing as the head Templar- you know, the faction that has consistently been depicted as the bad guys- and then you have to spend the rest of the game trying to undo everything you did in the first act. It was a pretty well-executed twist, but it might have had more impact if Connor wasn't so dull a character.