One of the Best Pre-Built PCs We've Reviewed: $1700 Thermaltake Vista 470M

[@GamersNexus]

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[@X-S-V-b1e]

I know it's been 3 years so maybe not a long enough time difference. But I bought a cyberpower pc prebuilt. Its actually fantastic now, cyberppower water cooler, zotac 4070 super. 7800x3d and 2 sticks of tforce 16gb sticks. $1700. Pretty dope now, maybe do another video!

[@henrythegreatamerican8136]

The max I'd pay for a prebuilt PC is $1300.

[@deebocj]

In curious 🤔 Steve. What kind of system do you use daily? Thanks

[@rre9121]

What would be even more interesting would be to ask for a review item, then also buy one undercover. Then compare them.

[@idindunuphenwong]

$1700?!? PLUS TAX?!?!? CyberPowerPC just dropped a 7700 with a 7900 GRE for $999. LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣

[@element54_]

You could literally buy one of this, win a Fortnite tournament, and it would still be cheaper than an NZXT Flex rental.

[@GamersNexus]

hahaha

[@paperandpavement]

Dont start 😂

[@Slambear]

Roblox tournament💀

[@TheApacheTrail]

Lol he said literally

[@EramPrince]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@januszoff]

"Better than scammy rental PC" Award joins "Better than Dell" Award

[@GamersNexus]

"It's better than getting scammed monthly!"

[@th3R0b0t]

real question is... how far away does, "it's scammy rental PC" sit from "it's not NZXT" from "it's better than Dell"

[@SGresponse]

If we're talking scams - then these two are pretty much equal.

[@97Crazysteve]

​@@GamersNexus Thanks Steve.

[@Josh-cw8by]

@@SGresponse Why do you think Dell computers are a scam?

[@KodiakD2]

Yeah that's a cool PC and all, but I don't know if ownership is right for me. I wish Thermaltake had a Flex Rental program for someone financially vulnerable, like myself

[@antonkirilenko3116]

You can always get money from an illegal loan shark to buy this. But then again, it's not predatory enough. Not like the Flex program.

[@TheChzoronzon]

Ur mum has a flex rental program Sorry, couldn't help, take a like at least :D

[@Fixlation]

@@TheChzoronzon 🦗

[@xenthia]

this was actually funny, you got me in the first half

[@user-wn2ho5ij5f]

Why don’t you just take out a payday loan for the pc, win a Fortnite tournament and then pay it off?

[@Davey480]

$100 upcharge over DIY is not bad. Good job Thermaltake.

[@mromutt]

thats less than a computer stores fee for assembling and installing windows, plus you get support and warranty!

[@gt4lex]

Literally if you're paid 20$ an hour or more, and your job is not assembling PCs, then it's more efficient to do a half day of overtime at work than trying to DIY in your free time.

[@tim3172]

@@gt4lex "paid 20$ an hour or more"... after accounting for all taxes. So like... $35-40 per hour on paper.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Those $100 go to GN, for "protection" ... Thermaltake makes no profit on these 🤑

[@sategllib2191]

​@@gt4lex Don't learn anything that way

[@needlessToo]

That was very embracement of exhilarating promise of domination of you Steve.

[@GamersNexus]

We wanted to really put it to the test. It was a big claim.

[@samiraperi467]

Kinky.

[@malphadour]

Miss Thermaltake is going round to Steve's later with some domination.....

[@802Garage]

@@GamersNexus Thanks, Steve.

[@jamesisaacson6379]

​@GamersNexus question how is starforge prebuilds also do you know where to get powerful/good prebuild gameing pc?

[@ozzuneoj]

It's worth noting: 5 hours after this glowing review dropped the price and specs of the computer are still the same as in the video. This shouldn't be a big deal, but sadly, it is! (However, it is out of stock currently.)

[@PronounsR4Pussys]

You seriously need to use commas, otherwise people read this all in one go: "5 hours after this glowing review dropped the price and specs of the computer are still the same as in the video." - with a simple comma it all makes sense much quicker with no rereads - "5 hours after this glowing review dropped, the price and specs of the computer are still the same as in the video."

[@theorenhobart]

i'm sure the replacement unit that goes on sale will be of equal value * cough cough

[@alrecks619]

Thermaltake really stepped up after that takedown video, that's for sure.

[@GamersNexus]

It does seem like that.

[@StrikeWarlock]

Up until recently, Newegg's customer support too, then I read about the latest bullshit on Reddit

[@emilyshabang]

​@@GamersNexus can't tell if that is Steve's sarcasm or not

[@tonydalimata]

Now if you could use your influence to get them to bring out red computer cases. That would be awesome!

[@X3r0.]

​@@tonydalimataI think Montech King 95 comes in red :)

[@thermaltake_de]

I think the NA colleagues will take "pretty good"!

[@GamersNexus]

hahaha, already spotted by the DE team?!

[@thermaltake_de]

@@GamersNexus of course! big fans!

[@clw22580]

Time for a secret shopper in DE to see if they matchup with NA

[@walkir2662]

Kein "Danke Steffen"? ;)

[@jayhill2193]

@@GamersNexus Germans understand that "not much to complain about" is about the highest praise one can get

[@alexhndr]

> Up-to-date Drivers > Reasonable CPU and GPU combo > Only $100 over the DIY solution Thats one helluva W

[@kutayarcan911]

Competently built too.

[@alain4037]

At that price you'd wonder how they make money on it. 100 is omegacheap

[@alexhndr]

@@alain4037 definitely "profit by volume" Gain less per unit for more unit sells Which makes sense given ThermalTake isnt exactly "Artisan" builder

[@Sc2God724]

Thermal take is using alot of their own stuff meaning they are getting componets at build cost so for most companies keep the price of materials at 20% or under of the total price so if they sell their AIO for $100 then they make $80 so on this prc they probably making closer to $300-$400 per pc ​@alain4037

[@user-yk2jm3mp7l]

I would definitely pay 100$ to get a nicely made pre built so I guess they going for volume

[@R7-7X]

GN saying good to a prebuilt is the greatest marketing you could ever receive

[@alvarogarcia5514]

That's what I thought too. "Pretty good" from Steve and company is huge.

[@jameshoover7129]

Excellent. Way to go Thermaltake. Having a pre-built I can recommend to all those "what should I buy" questions from acquaintances is nice. Big thanks to GN for keeping us all informed.

[@devildante9]

Yeah it's pretty good, it's a good base to later upgrade the ram or cpu. I would 100% recommend to a relative or friend.

[@LishtenbirdTech]

I don't know, I think I'll wait till Thermaltake 7.

[@GamersNexus]

Just don't upgrade to Thermaltake 11.

[@tbnprathades1631]

@@GamersNexus So are we skipping Thermaltake 8

[@pigletshut]

8 is crap, and 10 will soon be down the toilet as well.

[@entitledOne]

Thermaltake XP was the best

[@djdoo]

@@tbnprathades1631 I would buy 8.1, should be speedy with no spyware.

[@grego7596]

It's good to see a positive video from Steve. We barely get those...

[@jdmhbeats]

It’s not his fault sumbags exist he just exposes them.

[@tim3172]

@@jdmhbeats 100%. It's not Steve's fault that he doesn't understand how rentals work.

[@grego7596]

@@jdmhbeats we totally agree on that. No denying it. Thing is, the praise/piss ratio of videos is way too inclined to the "piss" section. :)

[@MrGermanpiano]

It should also be taken into account that the "negative" videos do better in terms of views than the "positive" ones. People like outrage and being upset.

[@grego7596]

@@MrGermanpiano another valid point right there.

[@MontagueZooma]

Thank you, Steve! I was tempted by this PC when it was $50 off at Best Buy because I also thought it was "pretty good." Happy to have my opinion validated by you. I want a prebuilt that's not a rip off and is suitable for upgrading. I'll be keeping my eye on Thermaltake. Some of their other builds seem a little dubious but this one was just right.

[@fish_doc]

I loved the "GROUND YOURSELF" post it note at 19:17

[@riverroadracing]

"It's pretty good." I can hear them cheering at their offices from my house.

[@EXOWill]

I am a retired 74 year old Great Grandpa and I've been building gaming PC's for friends and family about 25 years. I personally would have a hard time matching Thermaltakes parts and price for a comparable PC.

[@regulator18E]

What does your age have to do with anything here?

[@filipesilva7581]

@@regulator18E i suppose empathy and relatability

[@purgatorysrath4455]

​@@regulator18E what does nitpicking his comment have to do with the video or his comments intention? Ahh we understand, you're a hall monitor. got it. 🫵

[@roosterbooster6238]

When I saw the price tag at the start I didn’t expect that CPU or GPU.

[@EXOWill]

@@regulator18E Nothing other than old guys like gaming too?

[@Voyajer.]

So "We actually kind of like it..." Is a higher tier than the "It's better than Dell" award right?

[@DD-th5tu]

Ask yourself, have you ever used a dell and been even close to thinking "I actually kinda like it"?

[@802Garage]

If the words "good" or "like" are used in a sentence without negative qualifiers, it's basically an 8/10 and up hahaha.

[@xynthexia]

11:46 Hynix Chips. Really good, even though they didn't get stick with 6000CL30 EXPO profiles, you could easily get that manually without any issue and overclock even higher if you wanted to.

[@Danielzabojca]

Thanks for all your hard work. I kind of wonder, did you guys plan on making a "They were so elated that they made a custom 'Thanks Steve' award" category if a brand makes one after your review?

[@TheGibber]

I used to work in a mom and pop PC store for a living and I don't blame them for twisting the RGB headers. The number of times I've messed that up only to have to remove the header, straighten the pins and try against is frankly incredible. Once I even snapped a pin clean off and (perhaps slightly scummily) opted to solder the pin back on to get it to work. I, for one, think an aRGB/RGB locking, secure connector is far overdue at this point. (Though I still do think it's not great to miss that on your final QC)

[@some-replies]

Fans too please. My quick psu swap saw me pulling everything but the cpu because I knocked a fan cable loose under my GPU

[@MacCheetah3]

Yeah. The ARGB plug is crap. It's the connector I have the far most struggle with. For me, it's less about keeping the connector secure (i.e., connected) but plugged in the first place. In most instances, I need to fuss tirelessly with the wires to get all three barrels to align with the pins. Thankfully, I tired of RGB overall quite quickly. My latest builds have no RGB beyond what lighting is embedded on the motherboard.

[@sean8102]

@@MacCheetah3 I tired of it as well. But because of the awful software I had to use to control my case ARGB lighting (MSI Center... yuk).

[@CptJistuce]

I broke my first SATA connector off the mobo. The plastic part lifted off with the cable, and the pins broke as I was trying to get the plastic back in without breaking it.

[@mattrogers6646]

​@@sean8102Totally with you. I don't use RGB because of the Asus Crate malware.

[@dieselbaby]

I've built PCs for people for years as a little side business/hobby, and it's always nice to see that there are big companies out there which are managing to do it properly themselves. It's not a high-margin business, or at least, it shouldn't be. For only $100 over the cost that it'd be for doing it oneself, I think that's more than fair, of course you have to actually include the cost of labor somewhere and not everyone knows how to/wants to build their own computers. Sometimes I read people's expectations online and they are ridiculous, no one is going to do this kind of thing entirely for free.

[@jayhill2193]

Exactly and as GN has pointed out, buying a prebuild comes with customer service and warranty. If you have trouble installing anything or otherwise using the PC, there's a hotline there for you with no extra charge and anyone who has ever played tech support for friends and family knows that there's a lot of working hours in that business too.

[@malphadour]

TBH $100 isn't enough to be worth while - they will have paid a tech about $40 ish to do that build leaving only $60 margin. That isn't a solid business model. They will be making money on the trade prices they get the components for, plus using some TT branded products in there allows them extra margin gains. But I agree with you completely - anyone expecting a hand built pc for the same price as DIY has no concept of business.

[@MCMonsterbuilder]

@@malphadour I mean I'd build one without extra charge for anyone because I like building PC's and do it as a hobby not as a business but don't expect free tech support from me then and delete my number.

[@HazewinDog]

@@malphadour They don't have $100 on top of the parts cost. they are a business and get better pricing on products. additionally, there's a bunch of their own products in there, which could easily cost them 50% less. And that's not to slander them, just to put it into context. Most other brands upcharge more while they should be able to get even better profits at the same price point than Thermaltake.

[@Ouroboros90]

@@malphadour they don't pay retail pricing on the parts. So their margin is far wider than the $100.

[@nailagciad]

When you were making the whole "awards" bit I was wondering whether you forgot about the obvious... "would I give it away to an acquaintance without having to become tech support?" award. Pretty much the highest praise anything can get is this. GG TT.

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

Steve I genuinely wish you good health and your channel to prosper, wish your team and you happy holidays.

[@johnharder3334]

It would be a real power move for Thermaltake to replace the boot logo with OG windows vista. Lean right into it.

[@concinnus]

They probably don't want a Trademark battle. Tho MS shouldn't want to admit they made Vista.

[@nohpleft]

People would get a heart attack.

[@Skillnoob_]

There would be so many people calling them up because of "Why am I using Windows Vista". Yes, it would be funny, but I can already see the support headache.

[@3AnxiousFerretsInATrenchcoat]

Make it an april fools update, vista jumpscare

[@SkipSauls]

The 3-pin ARGB connectors are criminal, and I mean this type, not this PC. With the always loose connections to the motherboard, the completely lack of tactile feedback to let you know it is connected, and the need to use tape to hold daisy-chained connectors together securely, these things are horrible. It's too bad the JST connectors didn't win over this nonsense.

[@forty2]

Some manufacturers have a slightly modified connector which actually clips in and resists some tension - recently installed some Thermalright fans and was pleasantly surprised with this.

[@camogeko6804]

​@@forty2 agreed 👍🏻 I also have thermalright fans and experienced the same.

[@techluvin7691]

Agree……. I completely loathe the horrible 5v connector. Who is the fool who approved that connector? Oh yeah……..he’s the same guy that went onto approve the 12VHPWR Connector for 4090’s. 🤣

[@etapollo13]

I agree, BUT holy moly i highly prefer them to a lot of the proprietary connectors that require hubs (sold separately). As a newbie building my first modern pc this year, ARGB functionality and ecosystems were the most nightmarish thing to teach myself about. There's definitely a need for a standardized connector and less hardware locked to proprietary software.

[@drageras]

Backfacing mobo connections and a standardized daisychaining and better fan pin setup needs to happen

[@jaygee1284]

I've been building my own boxes since middle school (1991), but I still appreciate the value that SI's bring. This one is real nice ... only two minor setup flaws and one minor flaw with component choices! It's a shame they weren't the first to get everything right. Regardless, nice job TT, and "Thanks Steve!"

[@rellikai945]

"Embracing the exhilarating promise of domination" has got to be the kinkiest marketing speak I've ever heard.

[@wesw9586]

Yeah... that whole statement kinda scares me 😂

[@mattrogers6646]

Don't kink shame!

[@Mwobley]

Out of stock on their website 2 hours after this was posted.

[@maxflier]

It was already out of stock before the video.

[@riccochet704]

"we kinda like it" ... that's a gold seal of approval coming from GN. Much better than the title of "this thing is dogshit".

[@notrixamoris3318]

The sound of steve when he said its pretty good...chefs kissed

[@TheApacheTrail]

Oooof

[@EmanuelHoogeveen]

Windows Vista with a GeForce GTX 470M, huh? I guess that checks out, could've put Windows 7 on it though :P

[@Limecat88]

Great timing, I was actually in the market for a new PC. I've built many PCs with my first being a Pentium 4 with a Voodoo card but I just don't want the hassle anymore. I was actually planning on buying a Corsair until I saw your video. I'm wondering if the more high end versions of this model have the same build quality as I'm waiting for the 5090 to drop.

[@stopcreepingyouweirdo]

Just a note that a Windows license is still allegedly a cost for PC gamers building their own. Noted many of us are dragging along an old product key or got one from a friend who works at Microsoft… but if you go to Target or MicroCenter you can still buy Windows 11 Home on the shelf for $119.00. OEMs pay much less to ship a machine with a legit key, but it’s still a cost.

[@YurttheSilentChief1]

I've trusted thermaltake's air coolers after depending upon them for 10+ years of my gaming. Nice to see this being alright!

[@seancasey8707]

I have a special place in my heart for pre-built PC's because my first one was mediocre enough that it sparked my interest in building my own. My biggest hobby and computer engineering background was a result of my early 2000's Dell. That doesn't give them them the excuse to be non-functional or severely kneecapped out of the box due to error or cost savings. Thank you Steve for holding manufacturers accountable when corporations ignore their customer's best interests.

[@mattrogers6646]

The problem with these large, public-traded companies in late stage capitalism is that we are consumers; the customer is the stock share holder, and that is to whom they are truly beholden. Too often they engage in anti-consumer behavior, making the product more expensive and objectively worse for the consumer, always in the name of making the line go up infinitely & forever... after all, they have a fiduciary duty to shareholders to increase profits.

[@NaviRyan]

Same issue with dell got a steam machine yeah that was a mistake and dell were literally impossible to deal with. It’s nice that prebuilts are finally getting to be as good as diy. Building a computer isn’t that difficult but it isn’t easy especially when it comes to the time taken to build one.

[@rockandrolljew89]

Love these videos. I'm looking to upgrade to a new pre-built in the coming year, and its really hard to know where to start.

[@CuriousMoth]

It certainly is a unique colour.

[@GamersNexus]

It certainly is!

[@iambox3432]

@@GamersNexus They got more colors coming out during CES.

[@coachflaps]

I was looking at getting a mid range prebuilt soon and wasn’t aware they made one. Thanks for the review.

[@Elkarlo77]

I don't see the 450Watt connector as an drawback but a wise decision. We all know that the 12VHPWR Connector is only good for up to 660Watts with reserve. By limiting it to 450 Watts you get your 35% margin back the old PCIE Connectors had. Even more to 45% with reserve. And thats important for a prebuild, if the putt in a 850Watt PSU and a RTX4090 starts a fire, then they have a liability. As the 12VHPWR is only safe at a 450W setting and most know it in the industrie now, they could a lawsuite if they allow in a prebuild 600W.

[@EkiToji]

"Embrace the exhilarating promise of domination..." Well, if all I have to do is put on a gimp suit for a decent pre-built things are still looking up.

[@dweebicusmaximus]

Honestly I might buy this when my laptop dies. I started watching this channel to learn more about pcs. Have failed to do that but have definitely learned a lot about pc case drama and how not to get scammed 😅 if GN approves even with all its caveats, I trust them to know better than me.

[@taylorpennington2864]

just subbed, Im getting into the Pc world. also 10/10 hair lol

[@andrewschwab6929]

Ask questions, do the research & be patient with your first build. Best of luck and welcome to the superior gaming experience lol. -fist bump-

[@waywardson8474]

These are great. As someone that builds rigs for people, knowing that I can suggest TT for their prebuilts is huge. Thank you Steve and Crew for all of your hardwork!

[@siemprepalante773]

It's awesome that you guys give away the systems. Kudos.

[@Versudan]

... I hate that prebuilts are so awful that physical damage to part of the internal components means it's still considered "good".

[@blewis42002]

Love seeing the prebuilt reviews!

[@FlyingCIRCU175]

Thermaltake CEO is gonna be paying the board big bonuses this Christmas! (the team that actually built this PC is getting a pat on the back and that's that)

[@IcecalGamer]

And all the extra work from the Holyday sales. 👌

[@KyleMc16]

Its only $100 over MSRP. The Board is going to tell the CEO to start exploiting their customers more because they aren't doing it enough.

[@SAlTin3]

We need more people like Gamers nexus doing things like this holding companies accountable and being completely transparent across ALL categories of products! Keep up the good work GN! Happy holidays!

[@clw22580]

Come on Steve with all those GN awards how could it NOT embrace DOMINATION

[@andrewknackstedt5458]

GN Really is a hero for foing these reviews. You're one of the only groups out there keeping the computer hardware space honest -- mad respect for that.

[@rmp5s]

3:56 - If "unburdened by what has been" harris was a gamer. 🤣

[@josephtullis9313]

I just bought a CyberPower PC. It is fine temps-wise, but the graphics performance wasn't benching what it was supposed to for a RX 7900 GRE. It turns out that there is a tiny switch on the video card. It was in silent / mining mode. Moving the switch to the left position next to the output connectors enabled performance mode. Had to re-install OS before it benched properly. Watch out for pre-builts! On the other hand, you can get them for cost if you wait for good sales. Then, tune and tweak them. Good deal for people that don't have a lot of time to build.

[@michael22414]

This is almost identical to the recent CyberpowerPC Gamer Supreme that went on sale for 1400 at Bestbuy on Black Friday. Same CPU, GPU, Gigabyte instead of ASRock on the mobo. But with 2 TB NVME and DDR5-6000

[@fracturedlife1393]

GN got it middle of October just after it launched, still you'd rather have the $300 presuming the same general spec and build quality

[@huhmz]

This is pretty much my dream PC right now. Not too overkill, quiet. Nice looking.

[@jameslutzke8262]

No Windows license cost in the price comparison?

[@U2BURE]

Look at the CyberPower PC Gamer Supreme, same spec, but 2tb ssd, and it goes on sale sometimes for $1450, but is regularly $1700 from Best Buy

[@Noblesteed17]

Tbh the leaders of thermaltake come off as actually caring about what they sell and who they sell to. One of the few companies left not scamming

[@malphadour]

In fairness to them (or unfairness) Thermaltake spent the majority of the last decade selling utter garbage and being one of the poorer brands in the market (prior to that they were a great brand but that was 15 to 20 years go). It's only in about the last 4 to 5 years that they have turned themselves around completely and started producing much better products (not the best) for very very good prices - their value is very hard to beat and they have applied this across multiple markets in the sector. For an old schooler like me it's good to see what was once a good brand return to being exactly that.

[@spaz-egotthatlongmoney3112]

​@@malphadour In fairness to them (not trolling with the wording, I pretty much agree with your whole comment lol), at the end of the day, that's how most brands in any industry work, except many don't improve after the first fall off, particularly in niche markets. Good for them, and I hope this becomes an entry PC for people intimidated by this big, obnoxious, and often sketchy scene with a lot of big names that sell trash being pushed.

[@malphadour]

@@spaz-egotthatlongmoney3112 Yes - it would be amazing if slime like corsair could change tack and go this way.

[@joshman5217]

Thanks Steve and team!

[@Deinos30]

Great review, you gave me hope again towards pre-built!

[@rickgeller6043]

I checked your store out since you asked nicely and waited till the end of the video before hawking your merch. I'd be interested in a ball cap but didn't see any.

[@pyroslev]

That sigh of relief and clunking sound you heard at 1:05 was the Thermaltake employee's cheeks unclenching out of some relief.

[@Drives31forhalo]

now _this_ is how you sell a prebuild computer! I'm impressed, I'll definitely be mentioning this video if I need to recommend a prebuilt computer in the future.

[@phill3795]

Thermaltake stock about to shoot through the roof

[@zaneainsworth]

"We didn't have much to make fun of the website" should've been another award

[@mattrogers6646]

"Marketing language could be mistaken for kink" award?

[@xXpainXoloXx]

Thermaltake you can thank Gamers Nexus for this has convinced me to finally buy a case from you

[@ARiverSystem]

"I really don't have a lot to complain about" high praise, thanks Steve

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

I love it when we get a good thumbs up review

[@yonson_racing]

This is on par with my experience with ThermalTake when I purchased a prebuilt from them during covid for the GPU. Cable management was amazing, similar Windows install with no bloat and had the same Heaven results etc...

[@Atilolzz]

Instead of calling it "Vista" they should have called it "7" for much better stability

[@lamikal2515]

Wanna know the funniest thing about why Vista have so much of a bad reputation ? OEMs were absolutely not ready forthe crazy bump in system requirements compared to XP, and were still selling pieces of junk with Athlon XPs, 256 megs of ram and anemic HDD. Try to install Vista on a fast Core2Duo or a Core2Quad, give it 8 gigs or RAM and even a crappy SSD, and it become as usable and stable as Windows 7...wich, under hte hood, is 99% identical to Vista.

[@mattrogers6646]

​@@lamikal2515I seem to recall the major outrage around Vista being the first revision of UAC producing constant popups asking "Are you sure you want to allow this?" when you tried to do anything on the OS. They had to massively adjust the default frequency of prompts for Win7, and add a slider to further tweak the UAC frequency, which actually made the security warnings useful.

[@hadez6933]

Awesome to see a good prebuilt PC. Hope you bent those rgb headers back, before giving it to a friend :)

[@WayStedYou]

And you don't even need to win a gaming tournament to pay it off!

[@tranthien3932]

Steve is so nice for giving Thermaltake the best Christmas present ever.

[@alexpetree2038]

Just got done rewatching a bunch of your prebuilt reviews. So excited to see a new one that's assembled with some semblance of care

[@DekarNL]

Very reasonably priced. Thanks for the tip!

[@flyinghigh1868]

That case is a professional armrest for Steve. 😂

[@ToastenButter]

I really enjoy these pre built videos. Crazy to see how some of these multi million dollar companies ship these PCs. I’m waiting for the PC2 before I upgrade.

[@GreatYamatanoOrochi]

In a public statement, Thermaltake claims that the customers are "confused" by the good value.

[@simoSLJ89]

It will never happen again!

[@mikeyp5130]

Kudos Thermaltake! I actually bought one of the 360 AIO coolers that was on sale recently! Would purchase more stuff from your company!

[@SAF4RI.]

I bought a pc from NZXT back in 2022 and I have had ZERO problems with that computer to this day. All the cables were managed well, drivers were installed, no loose or disconnected cables. I don't know if they still have that high quality build standard today, but in 2022 they were one of or the best pre built manufacturers. EDIT: I spec'd it out using old prices. I paid: $1700 They paid (assuming msrp): $1650. They were just doing it for the love of the game and I hate to see that their company went downhill.

[@Enigmaception]

It's a trend nowadays, megacorp comes and buys out company, milks all the money and profits out of it, leaving behind a dried piece of turd. Move on to the next victim, rinse, repeat

[@tharealmb]

Your timing was impeccable with the "it's better then dell". I was just starting my work laptop and when you said it, the bios DELL logo showed up 😂

[@wellallnasib]

Sold out in 8 Minutes.

[@bobbylugo8506]

Already sold out on the website. Nice to see the instant reward to a company for providing a quality product at a fair price.

[@TeamStevers]

People don’t understand what a bargain the 4070 variants are when mixed with a 7800x3d. In most games it get significantly higher FPS than the $5k PC of last generation. The 50 series with the 9800x3e will be amazing if it follow the same trajectory

[@gintozlato1880]

7800XT is still better value unless you use RT more than 50% of the time.

[@leruty]

@gintozlato1880 And care about image quality

[@gintozlato1880]

@@leruty Image quaity in what sense? with the same outside factors (resolution, output interface, ect) the picture output will be of the same quality between either brand

[@bigdoguk9845]

Nice review Steve, happy Xmas to you and your team

[@vaeloreonari7516]

Thermaltake has been killin it lately! I'm especially impressed with their Cases and their stepping out of the Black and White box on Case Colors!!

[@ThatRogueGuy]

Thanx for the suggestion.

[@chrisbreaktherules]

Can you review digital storm aventum ? Thank you!

[@GamersNexus]

Will take a look at their options.

[@mattspeer01]

DS is awful. Read BBB reviews of the company... yikes.

[@Bethos1247-Arne]

I think at Thermaltake HQ, a couple of bottles of champagne were opened. While this video just shows how it should be: A well-designed prebuild for a reasonable price. Assembly was not perfect but good enough. And Thermaltake used standard PC components, no custom BS. This is how it should be. Even the marketing text was okay with just one over-the-top paragraph. WELL DONE THERMALTAKE. I hope this exmplary pre-build sets a benchmark for mid-up-range gaming PC.

[@legend-2890]

I would change the PSU to but over all pretty good

[@TheColonel_]

Video request: A video detailing the problem of GPU Sag, is this really a problem? How much weight can a GPU take? How much weight can a motherboard slot take? Solutions? I've found this to be a big concern in my two most recent builds, but I'm not sure if I'm exaggerating.

[@drunksupportcharacter]

TT Be watching this and "Its pretty good" will be chanted around the office, and thats all it needs to be when it comes to prebuilts.

[@Atlink]

It's saying something when a review boils down to mostly nitpicks and hair-splitting. Good job, TT. You deserve your award(s).

[@TheCoasterSerpent]

What! It has Vista on it! How dare they.

[@GamersNexus]

The name needs work!

[@VayaVosi]

No! Pay attention! It’s running XP but is vista compatible..

[@MocSomething]

​@@VayaVosi* yeah but "only Home Basic" etched at the bottom of the power supply in a size 6 cursive font.

[@Horus9339]

Christmas bonuses for the Themaltake PC builders, well done guys as that was nearly a perfect build. Merry Christmas everyone.

[@Rogerkonijntje]

Merry Christmass

[@silenttoxic707]

the IBuyPower 9800x3d 4080 super for 2600 isn't looking too bad tbh

[@pete0274]

I had bad previous experience with TT PSU 500W and 750 W both died quiet fast. TT 750 W TP shown high oscillation of +12V from the first month of use. After retailer change it with a new one, died in about 2 years. Hopefully the 850W PSU in the Vista 470M will hold better and not gonna warm up too much the backplate of the CPU as is quiet tight positioned right there.

[@gaveup]

Hey! That's my case picked one up in October and been loving the look/function

[@jaball77]

As a former DIYer who can't be arsed anymore, I appreciate this!