Final Fantasy XIV Online Dawntrail Full Graphics Comparison

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[@MegaBoggart]

It's subtle, but the new lighting model really makes the bump mapping layer pop, giving detail and reflections to texture. I think it will be much more noticeable in game than in these comparison videos, because we're used to dark places with reflections just being dark, instead of having objects - specifically metallic objects - throw light like they should in real life.

[@TheWrxrally]

The biggest thing I noticed is how much more vibrant everything is. The colors really pop.

[@39zack]

no more washed out colors it looks like :O

[@AkoSolius]

My #1 reason for using shaders is the colors. I would love for better colors in the base game

[@Icycrits]

While it does say "Content shown is subject to change" and Yoshi-P himself did say the graphical update will improve from now to next year, it is still important to give feedback and assume nothing will change until we ask the devs for it and see it implemented. Personally, I'd like even higher texture resolution on gear and buildings. Player models are a step in the right direction but some look a little derpy. Midlander at 0:26 just looks too smooth. Maybe it's the flat lighting. Looking forward to see how this improves over the year.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

It seems like the lighting is reacting to the armor, but not to the faces. I'm not sure why. The skin is at least a little better at handling shadows and reflections.

[@slanderpop8771]

@@Jay-mx5ky prob becuase its not done. They have said its ongoing etc. Still looks much better than OG. I think seeing it all toghether in person will be better than through youtube as well.

[@HMNNO]

They don't want to change the art style so maybe they can't add too much

[@Dr.Strangelewd]

My only real issue is shiny Viera noses. I though the nose bridge was supposed to be covered by fine hair, hence it's darker in tone.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

@@Dr.Strangelewd I think that's a general problem with dark skin that I hope they fix. Darker skin looks really bad with light. It's especially apparent in the first trial.

[@slutmonke]

the changes in static shots looked good, but the impact of ones outside with the moving camera were destroyed by video compression

[@cattysplat]

Anything that makes FFXIV's art shine brighter is all the better.

[@ErosPanda-pi2hx]

I wanna see grapes.

[@kohlicoide2258]

Never forget the low poly grapes!

[@NightshadeKitana9]

why you!!!!!!!

[@akiradkcn]

And sunflowers

[@villa_art]

Already confirmed in an interview that the low poly grapes will stay low poly. The regular vegetation, lighting, and shadows will be updated for the previous areas of the game though

[@tylerdotapp]

@@villa_artthe warrior of light needs limits

[@marcw6875]

I'll admit I was expecting a more drastic change. But considering how old the overall game engine is getting, I can understand why this is what they did. Also, I'm sure they don't want to change it to the point where a lot of lower end PCs can no longer handle the game. I'll be interested to see the changes in the live game. Honestly, I would be happy if they at least fix some of the weird shadows and shading that we sometimes get on our character's faces, etc.

[@Noxlion28]

“Content is in development and subject to change”

[@Wasabi574]

There's at least a year left for them to improve it and it clearly says that it's still in development

[@Noxlion28]

@@Wasabi574 reading is not most gamer’s strong suits lol

[@cattysplat]

It's also an MMO, which usually pride themselves on running on low end PCs. The game must also continue to run on the PS4. If the specs are too high you literally lose thousands of customers who don't upgrade their hardware.

[@Highstar25]

as they stand currently, the new minimum specs will rule out most low-end or old gaming PCs as well as steam deck support, even though they claimed it was a tiny change. I think they're wildly overexaggerating though.

[@Klaudiuszeg]

As a Elezen main: YES YES YES YES Y E S ! More natural lips and eyes, FK YEAH

[@iiliiliiliil3444]

elezen really needed it. i think female elezen are pretty, but their faces needed to respond more to the lighting to stand out. same with female highlanders

[@valermo3471]

Finally AuRa looks less derpy and dead inside

[@MrCarlWax]

Now they look dead on the outside too

[@valermo3471]

@@MrCarlWax Nah, now they are just calm and chilling

[@iiliiliiliil3444]

they all do. big improvement, hopefully this addresses the "soulless eyes" problem some races have in indoor lighting

[@Reaper1722]

Il Mheg looks amazing with the graphics upgrade.

[@SimpleTides]

I really hope they spend a little more time on the hair, on some of the new models the hair styles almost look worse, meanwhile the Viera and Hroth seem to get really nice hair updates? especially the Viera male's hair, the quality shot up dramatically, meanwhile the others seem to just get some type of blur effect ( namely lala male, hyur female & male for examples )

[@necococo]

I noticed that too. For most they looked a little updated and with the shadow casting to the face is nice, but I also noticed it looks glitchy in some parts like for the male Miqote if you compare the before/after, the back of the hair looks glitchy in the new one (but maybe they'll fix that later), and the Lalafell's hair I think could use more dramatic/higher-contrast texture since it looks quite flat compared to others. I find the flatter texture hair looks worse the brighter the haircolor is too. That is already a problem I have with some of the in-game hairs currently, where some will have flatter textures and look too flat on light colors and barely show the secondary highlight color.

[@SimpleTides]

@@necococo yeah the elezen female hair also gets very lost in the back of the hairstyle in the updated version. It's a real shame, I really hope they put more effort in the older hairstyles after they're taken in what people are saying about the hairs. I notice they didn't really fix proportions except the miqote females jaw and cheek area, when several races need a second look at in terms of head sizes and eye sizes.

[@sheasheasheashea]

I put it in slow mo and watched the male viera's change, it's REALLY drastic compared to the others. Actual nostrils, eyes were raised, 3D undereye that isn't based on cheek-height (which in ARR lighting gives them the facial features of Itachi from Naruto), imo cheeks look a bit rounder but it might be from facing the camera. Can't tell if the eyes are closer together but they look it to me. Meanwhile.... f!viera had hardly any changes. No complaints there because her look is so iconic anyway. SO EXCITED!

[@Jay-mx5ky]

The environments are looking significantly better and cleaner, and the armor looks great but I'm hoping for a lot more fidelity improvements to the characters. They seem too afraid to take a big step with them, I'm hoping at the very least we can get more detailed face textures. Maybe a higher poly count next expac. Regardless they've only shown this with the base expression, and they haven't shown major problem areas like face paint, lipstick, and dark skin. I'd also like to see how things in motion look on characters.

[@SuperRamos619]

Their goal was still to retain the original art design, while improving the fidelity. Hair and now fur, are likely the focus here.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

It's still important to make the feedback known. The environments look great no doubt, but there's a very mixed perception on the characters and they still have time to upgrade further or maybe change some of their targets before release. They probably have about til jp fanfest to lock in the content for this expac, so that's not a lot of time. I know people don't want the characters to look way different, but I think they can go higher than this. Great example is BDO, which looks very similar in art style to FFXIV especially on female characters but significantly higher quality graphics.

[@SuperRamos619]

@@Jay-mx5ky I'd chalk it up to engine limitations unfortunately. It's why they are focusing on textures and lighting. These can only take you so far though. They can probably find ways to make it look better, but I don't imagine it'd be significantly better than what we've seen. I think they'd have to rebuild all the models from the ground up, and significantly increases the resources per character model.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

@SuperRamos619 they really don't have to. There are plenty modern tools that can manipulate the shapes of the models and retain the original rig. Characters especially in mmos are made to be customizable and adaptable, and they use the same resources to make npcs as they do the player. Modders do it all the time. And the engine doesn't limit the poly count. Each expansion we've been getting higher density poly count environments and slightly higher res textures. It's simply a lack of resources allocated to doing so, whether it be a money and manpower issue or a lack of desire and need to keep from pissing off the masses, both of which SE is in a reasonable spot to fix. I'm willing to reserve final judgements until the expansion is closer to going gold though, so I'm hoping to see responses to feedback.

[@iiliiliiliil3444]

I agree, they really should have shown more.

[@iiliiliiliil3444]

really like the graphical changes on the character models. i hope the add a few polygons to the hands and feet, though. i don't think it will cause performance issues if they gaves the warrior of light some toes. im not a dev though so who knows lol

[@aliciafraser1835]

Fairly certain /no/ model changes are being made. This is all texture and lighting as explained at the start of endwalkers life.

[@iiliiliiliil3444]

@@aliciafraser1835 i actually saw some slight changes to the models. i had to pause a lot and view it on my tv screen, but i see a difference in the ears and the eyelids. it was hard to see because of the new textures, but im certain that they added some polygons.

[@candidklutz5056]

@@aliciafraser1835 you can 100% see the models are smoother

[@MuteObserver]

@@candidklutz5056 Changes on Specularmaps/Normalmaps/Bumpmaps; could give a great illusion of detail, would bet that's all this is, and that alone can do wonders. (As much as I'd love an actual geometry-level change -even if it's subtle.)

[@confounded_feline]

Based foot enjoyer

[@DavidCruickshank]

Those flowers looked genuinely amazing!

[@zdddddd]

glowing flowers = better graphics. yeah

[@sunrisewolfy]

also more flowers too, before you could see the ground texture, after its just more flowers which I super appreciate! It feels like a field now. @@zdddddd

[@dystasia]

Looks good but I would have wanted a touch more. Armor texture resolution seems still too low. Material change was much better tho.

[@dagetheevil1]

Also, people are underestimating how great of an update this is. ARR is 10 years old, it's almost as old as Skyrim

[@CatCraftez]

Color? In MY ffxiv?

[@DeepbloodFang]

Showinbg newer gear with the improvements is fine and dandy, but the real issue is how badly the old and new armors clash. They should have shown the improvements done to old gear, new stuff already looks good anyway even without the update.

[@plainsalt]

I think it smart that they showed new gear. It shows that they can improve even on the best armors. We know they'll update old ones anyways (more popular pieces first I think).

[@Solid912]

I think the main thing here which shot themselves in the foot is they put both models in a pure white lit room....they should of just put them in the game world and I think the way the textures, lighting and shaders work...would make the upgrade stand out that much more but even in the weird testing room it does look like a nice jump. I am more interested in the environmental side of things and one aspect they haven't shown is animation as they did mention that's something they wanted to tackle. The screens from the 7.0 zones are definitely far more detailed and dense then whats in the game currently at the moment and seeing ARR getting that treatment is good and makes sense marketing wise. ARR is your introduction to the game its nice that gets a visual boost too. Seeing that lighting, material shaders and grass etc will apply to other expansions but gear/npcs and specific environment textures will be tackled during 7.X sounds good to me.

[@MuteObserver]

Definitely with you! Harsher lighting from one side, rotate the model around it, could show a lot more on how these new maps are responding to lighting.

[@Solid912]

@@MuteObserver yeah that would of been nicer honestly, also they did say that this wasn’t the final one and they will still strive to do better, who knows but I’m attending the london fanfest so here’s hoping for some actual in game footage lol

[@AnakhaSilver]

Man people really just want everything to be latest gen max sliders super xtra graphix 20493584835094234

[@sylents8005]

Nex gen consoles & top tier pc i mean it makes sense. I mean the xbox version is only current gen while ps still has last gen.

[@ToxSenTV]

Anyone know the song they got playing in the background with the vocals? Sounds beautiful and I needs it

[@varaki3591]

For the last section in the video that's the Il Mheg day theme "Fierce and Free" kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZmXYoduZcp3jKs

[@TorManiak]

First one is "With Hearts Aligned" from a Spoiler trial in Endwalker. Second one is the Immortal Flames command theme(when you go there in Ul'dah, it plays automatically). Third one is "Fierce and Free", the track playing during the day while the Il Mheg zone of Shadowbringers.

[@jaded9436]

The lightning and shadows make a pretty nice difference. They changes on the characters are more subtle but the eyes make a big difference. More depth and life to them. Looks like the hair got an increase in textures as well. The new lightning looks great though. I wish the compression didn't ruin the last few shots though.

[@cabl7787]

Fem Au'ras actually look like they're fourteen now lol.

[@MrCarlWax]

Gateway to lalafell

[@cabl7787]

@@MrCarlWax I really hope not lol.

[@suzyturquoiseblue-]

So reshade won't be needed as much then?

[@lunaplastina3365]

im worried my pc wont be able to play with the rework :(. Is it optional?

[@ainashin]

Ok now we have 4k potatoes

[@rue6368]

It looks great, but this is kind of what it already looks like if you're modding. It is nice, however, that I won't have to maintain these mods moving forward.

[@Pridai]

Graphic requirements went sky rocket, yet the changes are pretty minor.

[@0GNAS0]

the colours pop now

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

i remember when warframe had a similar overhaul in graphics, i wasn't surprised, i was expecting more, but i was glad it happened, it was a necessary change, i see the same here, also, blade and soul got a full remaster from unreal engine 3 to 4 that changed the overall look of the game and in my opinion completely killed the gorgeous colored worlds of the game, in this case, final fantasy looks better even if is not a drastic change

[@KoboldPip]

That's all well and good but I really hope they open up cities so there's no loading screens inside them.. like going from Lower Limsa to Upper without loading for example

[@Oceanworker]

really love the new hair textures!

[@SaiyanInTraining]

I want to see the gamblers outfit. It looks like it was rendered on a ps1

[@fredy2041]

The problem of this video is that their showing one part of the graphical update,textures, on a dev "grey" area. People are complaining and thinking is not big of a deal for this. Once we see everything cobble togheter it will be much better.

[@royox]

The change on the character models are still a bit lackluster and I expect the textures of gear and armors to get even better. Is it too much to ask for Lala's noses to stop being blurry black/brown masses?

[@w061a09]

From the look of it the pld armor doesnt look like it went through updated texture, they only slapped the updated property of onto the armor, metal shiny, cloths not. We have plenty of higher resolution texture of gear in game now and this is clearly not it.

[@talimityy]

They finally got rid of the desaturation filter on everything lol. Skin looks a bit oddly shiny or has very aggressive rim lighting (most noticeable in Meteor shot) but everything generally looks great. Love how metal actually looks like metal. Materials have been my biggest gripe with the game's visuals since the day I logged into the closed beta; everything looked made out of the same sort of plastic.

[@jasonwright2665]

I love the new shininess of the equipment and the way the hair looks. I'm so excited for not only this expansion but the graphical upgrade in particular.

[@snaek12]

Finally Aura scales looks detail...

[@Zakjuh]

I think they really didn't give us a flattering look at it. Characters in an out-of-game presentation with janky lighting. Just compare the current models ingame to the current models from the examples- the current models look way better, so I assume the characters will look better in game as well. And I wish they'd given us a look at everything together rather than sequestered. I can tell that, even though people don't seem to notice it, the character models' faces improved quite a bit. Smoother silhouettes, more edges so less stretching between the parts, which means smoother lighting and less of those weird lighting errors. Still hope to see some proper antialiasing

[@Klaudiuszeg]

You are out of your mind if u think character models look worse. Look at the nose model and eyes.

[@Zakjuh]

@@Klaudiuszeg I think you read my post wrong.

[@MrCarlWax]

​@@Klaudiuszegshiny plastic = better

[@rtbear674]

I also wonder why they use flat studio lighting to preview the character, maybe for highlight part of the skin. but the details in the face quite lost with the flat lighting. Even in character creation you can see your characters in multiple environments. can show close up face with il mheg background showing how it can look for gposers. Environment upgrades looks good tho.

[@fredy2041]

Your 100% right, this is why many on the comment section are being whiining, they dont realise that we are seeing a single improment. I do agree, that when we see a complete video with al the graphical updates on a single place at a decent frame, it will be a much better comparison.

[@AkiRa22084]

Oh, they added the camera relative camera glare in the eyes that WoW recently included.

[@sdfasdfvccvvc]

I really hope there will be a setting/slider to reduce all that extra light blooming.

[@BReWeDKnOwLeDGe]

Yes, I hate bloom !

[@necococo]

Yeah I think it got a bit much especially at the flower field area where everything is bright.

[@raikohzx4323]

Oh finally, the game rendering is losing that fake washed out brightness problem. I've had to use 3DMigoto's render tweak to remove that for far too long.

[@Netskayt]

Woah do you mean we now have color without having to add a filter so that the game doesn't look muddy as hell? Revolutionary

[@orimu836]

I will no longer see my Beautiful Miqo'te face get ruined by bad lighting. She looks awful in Praetorium lighting.

[@richardshiflett5181]

Miqo'te

[@orimu836]

@@richardshiflett5181 oh sht haha. I keep doing the "Y'shtola" spelling when I type Miqo'te lol

[@johndoe-dj3iy]

@@orimu836 Honestly it doesn't matter as long as we know what you meant and I'm sure no one was confused by it, only grammar nazis would even bother to correct you on that.

[@BaithNa]

The eyes look so much more vibrant and the hair looks way less plastic. Cant wait for 7.0

[@lushen952]

I really hate how low the stream quality was when they were showing their graphics update off...like how do they not see this is a problem?

[@HyouVizer]

wish they revealed fem hrothgar there and not elaborate further on it for laughs

[@AnakhaSilver]

M!Viera weren't revealed until the end of the last EW Fanfest so.

[@Kenshin6321]

But can we get jiggle physics at 60fps to 120fps?

[@ritzsoloz6110]

With new better texture & lighting its look amazing!

[@richardshiflett5181]

Stormblood is also going free too!

[@wingedhussar1453]

I hated tge flat lightbing this is much better

[@stevendaelemans1859]

Wil these graphics updates come to the PS5 as wel or wil they only be for the PC

[@yoda0017]

It'll be for all versions of the game - PC, PS4, PS5.

[@stevendaelemans1859]

Nise good to know i have the game on my PS5 i own all expansions of final fantasy XIV

[@voodooogaming]

Only thing I ask is make the Elezen's necks shorter

[@JuanFuentesT]

Where's the pixel exarch?

[@ActualKaktus]

I understand that the update is still in development, but if things stay as they are, I don't understand why they're deploying so many resources on such a minor upgrade. With that said, I'm sure they're fitting the technical requirements to work for as many players as possible. As of now, I don't think it looks that impressive.

[@ItDaBiz]

Welp, looks like I'm going back to AuRa again

[@lolcat5303]

Compared to the derplander remodel they showed post 6.0 (no, not the really high res one)... it looks like a downgrade? Sure the areas look brighter and more colourful and you can see the improvement in the materials but the models themselves look plastic and minimally upgraded. I realise it's a WIP but I sure hope with 16 now done that they're going to get into gear and really work on this as this is underwhelming to say the least.

[@plainsalt]

I think it added more depth to their faces' dimensions. There are actually highlights to the face and the shadows form around them a lot better. They could add more pores to some of the faces for sure but calling it plastic is wrong IMO. The eyes actually look alive. Roe and highlander have more visible pores. Vieras look too smooth but if you have well moisturised skin you do have more visible lights.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

​​@@plainsaltit looks plastic with real lighting in the game. It looks fine in the editor where they're scrolling through the face and controlling the lighting, but we'll have to see when they put models in the actual environments. The one shot of derplander in Sharlayan, one of the newest areas, does not look good though.

[@lunyiea]

I like it, but I hope for some more prettier options in the char-editor. :3

[@ColourBlueCj]

became brighter and more vibrant, not sure is a good thing

[@masarothgames]

Let's hope the FPS and load times don't suffer because of it.

[@berserkguts6212]

Well this is yoshi p we are talking about, when you see how FF16 turned out it aint looking good on the performance front.

[@plainsalt]

​@@berserkguts6212 They're different types of games on different engines and platforms so that's not at all a fair comparison. FFXIV runs fine and if you have the recommended hardware it runs very smoothly already. If anything, it'll take up more space.

[@olliemilward5237]

I feel like people under appreciate the changes they’ve made saying it won’t look like ff16 graphics the subtle changes they’ve made will look 10x better in game and change the whole vibe of it just wait until 7.0 I bet asmongold will play bc of the new graphics

[@trashboatex]

music?

[@Coldsilfur4]

the characters look now more the quality of version 1.0. since the original version had much better graphics / higher polygon count

[@adrianyoyo3635]

Is the graphical update free?

[@ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy]

It's additional You need to buy it. Of course not. Do you think it's America corporate? Lol

[@elitistnoob9564]

All I am asking for is an actual working anti-aliasing.

[@autumneagle]

Rothgar really got a W

[@Daniel-PT]

Espero que eles otomizem a versão Ps5 em 100%. Que deem 4k 60 fps estáveis, e não aquela versão meia boca que foi a versão ps5.

[@JulianneRegina]

Lighting makes things better but its subtle. I don't notice much of a difference in graphic fidelity.

[@michaelblue4619]

man...i get the same results using the graphical filter mod.. everything is just... brighter in terms of environments..

[@mr.starly2423]

I can’t tell the difference. All I see is added shadows and new lighting.

[@hillmor8635]

JUICY

[@codyxiv]

Really good work. Looking forward to seeing Gshade on top of this.

[@327thepeanut]

I just want Highlander eyebrows bro, that's all...

[@Saihamaru]

now that il mheg really look from out of a fairytale book

[@kovacsbenjamin7960]

fem elezen neck and posture rework when?

[@repsa1121]

Graphics went from strained ps2 to now ps4 era not bad but the only thing that will bring me back is jobs becoming unique again not all the same gameplay with a different skin so to speak :I heres hoping :L

[@Borealis-Rainbow]

Lalafell is just shiny lalafell

[@georgehill3087]

Why is new on the left and old on the right? Who does that? 2:27 moves from new into old. wtf? This update is pretty huge but still very dated, especially the outside environment. Overall, it went from 2005 mmo graphics to 2010 ish mmo graphics. I think, overall, it somehow still looks worse than Archeage which is from 2013 even though this update's textures seem to be significantly higher than Archeage. IMO, texture upgrade isn't very important. It's the shading and lighting. Look at Minecraft with ray tracing. The textures are awful, but the game looks great. Not that we need ray tracing, but decent shading and lighting from two generations ago would be absolutely massive just by itself. Like some of the indoors look absolutely solid because their shading and lighting were greatly improved. The hairs still look 2005, just a tiny bit more textured and shinier. Still just some weird plastic hats that characters glue on their heads. The outside just looks brighter and more vibrant, but still shit. I think it's the proper shading still being pretty much nonexistent and the overall world being empty and meaningless. Mountains are still just big featureless boulders that jut out of ground out of nowhere. It's still as if some 10-year-old kid just dragged random assets on the maps and that's the end product.

[@LBPreviews]

Pretty sure I'm seeing contact shadows on faces.

[@Brian-er7no]

Everyone is already making their game look like this with addons or Nvidia filters. Good change though, hope it helps.

[@DerekDirk]

This is still on the level of FFXII PS2 era graphics LOL

[@BaithNa]

You must have not played FFXII recently because this is way better than that game

[@LezSpringfield]

nah right now it looks like a ps3 game but this update looks like ps4

[@DerekDirk]

@@BaithNa No, I have. If anything, Zodiac Age looks more impressive and XIV is on the level of PS2 XII lmao. It's OK to admit the game's faults, I know y'all are Yoshi fanboys/girls but still...

[@iblisellis7114]

Too much bloom but otherwise great. 👍

[@dagetheevil1]

This looks insanely good, massive overall improvement compared to our current graphics. Can't wait to see if the character models evolve even further during production

[@Mightion]

My new PC (Z790 + 13700KF + RTX4080) says "Bring it!" :D

[@meeko5985]

Same. Z790 Hero+13900K+RTX 4090

[@kyle013100]

Meh all I'm hoping for is that the hands look less square if I gotta see another hand shot like when urianger shot a card at emet and I gotta see those squares I'm gonna cry

[@alicjabetlejewska3064]

Ekhem, I wanna point out that company has SQUARE in its name xd

[@kyle013100]

@@alicjabetlejewska3064 lol fair but still man those fingers are horrid

[@InnocentGuillotine]

Hands are probably not ever getting more polys considering that Viera and Hrothgar aren't even getting new hats that release after their creation.

[@supergooglelee]

I hope they can add full ray tracing or even path tracing for the PC version to fully utilise my 7950X3D and RTX4090.

[@belmontsilver]

So reshade?

[@Jai_dinn]

OMG

[@JokerillaBF]

Kinda better, yeah.. But still outdated AF, no offense.

[@Majkelo_]

yep furries in wow looks better for sure ...

[@MrCarlWax]

@@Majkelo_ I can feel the dissapointment and resentment radiating lmao

[@Majkelo_]

@@MrCarlWax i can feel dissapointment of your parents after your birth lmao

[@MrCarlWax]

@@Majkelo_ You couldn't have made my point any stronger xD

[@Noxlion28]

@@MrCarlWax why would I resent anything when I enjoy this game more than I enjoy wow…and I have AOTC on vault and crucible

[@JQ86]

Female highlander is so much better with this.

[@InnocentGuillotine]

Show us how dark skin looks in the new lighting you cowards I want to be able to see my Ravas' faces in dungeons

[@xxJing]

It feels like a 10% improvement. That number is arbitrary, the point im trying to make is that it's technically better but it doesn't feel like it will matter overall.

[@SuperRamos619]

Way better hair texture definitely fucking matters. So big improvements here are a big win.

[@Noxlion28]

Said the gamer with no experience in graphic design, software engineering, etc…lol

[@xxJing]

@@Noxlion28 it's a subjective matter, I don't need experience. Ultimately whether my opinion means anything won't be decided by game designers or software engineers, it will be decided based on whether a sizeable number of other consumers are impressed or not. It will either be a noticeable improvement that everyone praises and draws people to the game. Or it will be something no one talks about making it a waste of development time.

[@kaanarmutcu6740]

oh piss off next time people say shit about She Hulk Ill say the same@@Noxlion28

[@lionsguardasmr]

Am I the only one that thinks hrothgar look worse?

[@Jinny-Wa]

Mods look better which we already have. Only thing which I'm "impressed" is that they finally managed to fix the au ra horns which modders have failed to do

[@sylents8005]

Consoles dont have mods

[@xblowsmokex]

It better still run on PS4

[@BaithNa]

It will

[@SomeMinion]

anti aliasing still non existent

[@StovnOG]

This is great. We need to phase our PS3 so we can finally get the game we deserve. Giant seamless open world which we cannot have due to being held back by PS3/ps4

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Game's not on ps3. Hasn't been in half a decade.

[@StovnOG]

@@Jay-mx5ky wow useful comment.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

@@StovnOG???

[@StovnOG]

@@Jay-mx5ky you act like I only said PS3. My point is that it was a factor on why the game was so segmented and currently that reason has moved to the PS4.

[@jjboonzaier]

​@@StovnOG it was phased out though? They can't change earlier code, that would be way to much work, it's how the game was designed hense why newer expansions are larger but still not "seem-less"

[@Highstar25]

considering how minor this change is (not that it isn't appreciated), it's a bit crazy that the minimum specs have practically doubled (to the point where if it were actually not exaggerated a brand new steam deck can't run the game). I currently run the game on high settings at a smooth frame-rate while also watching videos, yet according to those specs I don't even meet the minimum reqs! Tbh I think they just copy-pasted the old recommended specs and called it a day. Nothing they're showing justifies the new minimum/recommended (nor does the fact that it can run on PS4 and Series S suggest that they've gotten THAT much higher).

[@Sovek86]

You need to remember this is just the start. I suspect there is still more coming and you'd be surprised just what lighting can do to system requirements. Heck, Terraria looks like it should be playable on a Athlon 64 but it chugs on even 10 year old hardware. Expect to see more peeks into the graphical update come Fanfest London and Tokyo

[@rasurin]

You weren't paying attention

[@Highstar25]

@@Sovek86 the new shaders are less intensive than Gshade. Also likely an option since as it stands you can basically turn off every shadow in the game if you want.

[@Jay-mx5ky]

​@Highstar25 being more efficient than gshade is not a hard ask tbh. Native improvements will always be better than third party systems, and gshade can blow up your framerate on even certain gameplay optimized shaders. My verdict is, the environments look much much better, especially metallic surfaces and armor. I'm hoping they listen to feedback on the graphics update and get more bold with texturing and maybe consider higher poly count.

[@Highstar25]

@@Jay-mx5ky compare and contrast with black desert online, which looks much better, also runs on PS4, has more demanding poly counts and shaders and MUCH lower system requirements. Also bear in mind that the current minimum specs can run the game at 1080p 60 on high while you can actually still run it badly on intel HD integrated graphics and it seems like SE just really don't understand the concept of 'minimum' specs and think it means 'minimum to run with all options at default'. The new recommended specs seem even more vaguely decided considering they could absolutely effortlessly smash PS5 games like strangers in paradise, ratchet and clank rift apart, cyberpunk 2077 and likely FF16 unless they really bungle the optimization

[@ThunderBIack]

good but it still looks like a ps3 game, especially the faces and hair

[@alexanderacosta8111]

This looks super underwhelming with what they showed last year…..