Games YOU said were the WORST on Neo Geo!

Fresh on the heels of my personal list of Top 5 Worst Games on Neo Geo! This is a round up of sorts where I call out an additional five titles as frequently mentioned by YOU GUYS. Definitely let me know in the comments if any of the ten games called out in these videos are missing something that you despise.
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[@neoxnet]

Ninja Combat: Leg day... everyday!

[@ScarletSprites]

You got that right.

[@PikaStu666]

I’m surprised to see Sengoku 3 there, I like it. Didn’t like the first 2 but I liked 3 a lot. I know we can’t all like the same games 🤷‍♂️

[@ScarletSprites]

It’s definitely different than the first two so I can see someone liking this and not the others. I usually can play 3 for a little while but I tire of it pretty quickly.

[@richardfan7157]

Same here. Pretty much every other sites covering Neo-Geo I've been to, such as HG101, mostly praised its combo system. I agree that repetition is its biggest flaw, but have you played the first Sengoku? Enemies die in one hit and there are no combos.

[@Mitjitsu]

It's shallow and too long for what it is, but shouldn't be considered a bad game none the less.

[@Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial]

I didn’t really have a meltdown over King of The Monsters. It IS your opinion at the end of the day, and I am not taking you to task for it. What I failed to mention (I even brought this up in my documentary about SNK & their Neo-Geo family of consoles) was that according to GamePro: there WAS going to be a Turbografx-16 port for KOTM in 1993 by Working Designs, but it never came into fruition. I remember a few years ago, when I watched a stream where the streamer compared Magician Lord to other refusal Pack-In Titles like Altered Beast, Keith Courage, and so on. He said that he read it from Chad Okada: The Game Lord himself. I looked everywhere, but I couldn’t find any sources to back those claims up. As far as I’m aware, gamelord.com is gone from it’s server, and for now, it is hearsay as to whether or not Magician Lord is a bad game-let alone a refusal pack-in title. The game DOES show it’s age, sure... but the more the game is played, the more it grows on you. I know it does me, and I enjoy playing it every now and then-finding new secrets... JUST LIKE METAL SLUG!

[@ScarletSprites]

If you look over the list of early Neo Games I think you could make the argument (aside from difficulty) that ML is the most mainstream game available that might appeal to an arcade gamer as well as someone in the home. It’s also a side scroller which was more the rage back then. It kind of normalized their console for the home market in some ways. Truth be told though pickings were slim early on.

[@Mitjitsu]

Most of these "bad" games came from the early days of the Neo Geo when the SNES wasn't even out yet. Thus are not being fairly judged. The one game I thought was really bad was Super Dodge Ball. As the scaling mechanics make the game unplayable.

[@RawrX32009]

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[@KewieCRC420]

Fun and chill video. Hope to see more like this. Great job and take it easy.

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks man, you as well.

[@SupremeJudge]

The Sengoku 3 dirty hack by SMKDAN actually changes the pacing close to Final Fight which makes it way more enjoyable and not tiring. Unfortunately SMKDAN never finished the hack in full so there are some things in it that need to be fixed still.

[@ScarletSprites]

I’ve never played this hack but am definitely interested in trying it out. Thanks for calling it out.

[@GenesHand]

Do you know where to find this hack? I have searched all over the internet and i haven't been able to find it.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Interesting list as usual Scarlet. Burning Fight was fascinating for the fact it help introduced me to Japan's nightlife in the early 1990's. I never knew about Japanese "Shotengai's ",underground malls, or even moving walk escalators. These were all new to me that amazed me as a boy. Still does to this day with that game. 3 Count Bout. Love that pro wrestling title. The Dodge conversation van in Leo Bradley's stage is exactly like the model that we had growing up as a boy that my parents purchased. The game is a royal pain at first, but i found out from friends that you had to either collide or do high risk maneuvers in order to weaken the CPU to do a grappling move. Then the game gets fun for me. 8^) Also bro, I posted this up on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com for you. It's on post #25,214 for you to view. Thank you as always Scarlet. A true pleasure to see you in action for sure. 8^) Anthony..

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks for the feedback and support Anthony!

[@demonology2629]

Burning Fight 🔥👊🏻 is fu(k!ng AWSOME‼ Best music ever and it's a adult themed beat'em up I have this game for Neo-Geo AES. I paid $150.00 for my loose cartridge 🤑🤑 Worth every penny.

[@ScarletSprites]

That’s a nice price for AES!

[@heardofrvb]

I thought Sengoku 3 has real good combat that can even have you reach a 100 hit combo.

[@richardfan7157]

Yep definitely. Whoever voted for Sengoku 3 most be some sort of troll, or confused it with Sengoku 1 or 2.

[@glaceytheglaceon7109]

One dishonorable mention is that being more of a player in the Super Sidekicks Series, the second game, Super Sidekicks 2 is the worst one of the bunch, like you have to pick a very op team and plus to score goals when the computer gets very cheap you have to do a high pass at the right time and do a series of head passes while holding the stick diagonally depending on where the players are but some of them will get stupid due to the AI and will make you fail the trick into scoring. The graphics are pre-render, like if they're digitized actors but not like super realistic digitized actors on non Neo Geo Games, I mean the players, plus the animations are choppy so they're not that great, plus some of the buttons of that exact game (Super Sidekicks 2) don't do much at all, like some of the buttons are completely useless. (I know it's a soccer game and they aren't that big in the states but Yeah... I respect your opinion if you're not a soccer fan or don't like soccer in general.)

[@ScarletSprites]

I actually grew up playing soccer for the same school as Ben Olsen. He had a bit more of a career than I did, lol. It was fun though, we always knew he was gifted. I have only played the Sidekicks games periodically, nothing substantial for me to feel like I can really judge them. In fact, with there being four of them they all kind of run together in my mind. Come to think of it there are a lot of soccer games on Neo Geo and I struggle with keeping them all sorted in my head. There does seem to be a debate about which of those Sidekicks games is the best though. I’ll have to go back and play the first one and then work my way through each one the next few weeks. Thanks for the comment!

[@LasherDevianceGaming]

Nooooooo! Not Sengoku 3 and Ninja Combat! Those are two of the best beat em ups!

[@ScarletSprites]

I'm just reporting what other people said. Don't come after me!

[@demonology2629]

@@ScarletSprites 😶🤣🙏🏻☯️🥶‼

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

Hey can you tell me where I can find the Sonic 2 arragement soundtrack you used as background music? It's great!

[@ScarletSprites]

It was a GameChops mix. They have a channel here on KZbin.

[@Artee023]

Impossible! There are no bad games on Neo Geo! -every fanboy

[@ScarletSprites]

Hah, I got a few of those comments last time around too.

[@austinreed7343]

Are there any bad CPS 1/2/3 games out there?

[@chuckyluvsu13]

Alright people give me a thumbs up if you absolutely love Burning Fight like I do !! Great video as always Joe, your synopsis of Burning Fight had me cracking up 😆 I love how you included the video clip of the bum giving head 😂

[@ScarletSprites]

To be fair I think he is cowering in fear but...it looks a lot better when he is behind your character than in front. I’m guessing that was left in on purpose for laughs.

[@chuckyluvsu13]

@@ScarletSprites damn you know I never thought of that... now I gotta play the game again 😅

[@retroprojections]

Repetition is the enemy of fun. The same problem plagues the Simpsons arcade and TMNT/ Turtles in time. Of course both of those games have better backgrounds than Sengoku 3, but fall very short in the gameplay department. Great video, thanks!

[@ScarletSprites]

There is still a bit of charm to those Konami games though, likely due to licensing and the easter egg appearances of scenery and characters. It's definitely a genre that is easy to cross the line on.

[@Crashtopher]

When I played Burning Fight as a kid it was obvious to me that it was a ripoff of Final Fight but I still really enjoyed it. It depicted an urban Japan that was exciting and not commonly seen in the west at that time as many arcade and console games were typically westernized before release here. I've always been easily impressed by "bright lights, big city", especially those that seemed foreign and exotic. Years later, as an adult I visited Tokyo and spent many nights in Shinjuku and Kabukicho and it's not a stretch to say Burning Fight encouraged my interest and curiosity in these places.

[@ScarletSprites]

A few people have called this out. You’re totally correct. I actually made myself playthrough it yesterday and despite its flaws there is a scenery and setting charm to it for sure.

[@aaronreid8375]

Ninja Combat is not a good game, but I do have nostalgia for it. And it started the whole "weird pants" trend on Neo Geo that you'd later see in the World Heroes series

[@jessragan6714]

Top Player's Golf. When your friends ask to play that Neo-Geo golf game and forget to mention "the good one."

[@ScarletSprites]

Haha, so true.

[@nickcavallo4201]

lol I finish this video and click the related video on the sidebar "The Top 25 Neo Geo Games of All Time", and what comes in at #25? Ninja Combat. I personally just can't get past how he walks so I'm glad to see that's the the first thing you pointed out.

[@thefifthdoctor6780]

I was replaying burning fight the other week. It’s not that bad.

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah I get it. I can see both sides of the argument for it. The music though...

[@thefifthdoctor6780]

@@ScarletSprites I agree with you there !

[@Zontar82]

NICE CHOUICE!

[@ScarletSprites]

I played through it on Monday it. I get the charm it has from an early 90s/Japan standpoint. I think I’d still much rather play Mutation Nation over it.

[@RetroMoments]

Didnt play Sengoku 3 yet but had my eyes on it for a while. Damn it, thats bad news. Cause just like you said, it looks so good.

[@ScarletSprites]

I wouldn’t let this fully deter you. It certainly has its fans. Definitely play it and judge for yourself.

[@jeeshyness3330]

@@FloridaEbikes Agreed, play the cheap release on switch or PS4 first to see if it's your thing. But personally it's one of my favorite beat em ups of all time!

[@riggel8804]

It has a really deep fighting system, on par with fighting games of the time. The graphics and animation are very polished. It's one of my favorite games on the system.

[@richardfan7157]

I'm surprised that Sengoku 3 is even included to begin with. Pretty much every other site covering Neo Geo content, including HG101, praised the game as one of the best on the Neo Geo. I've played it and while I agree that repetition is the game's biggest flaw, it has a great combo system that really shines with two players. If anything the first Sengoku is the worst, where a combo system is completely absent and most enemies did in one hit.

[@chriskater]

Great video, deserves more views. Thanks for your work. Sharing with my gamer friends !

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks man!

[@miketate3445]

My overly-emotional meltdown over King of the Monsters is spilling over into this video. That game is a dang treasure!

[@ScarletSprites]

Haha, I’ll allow it! It’s kind of cool seeing people defend some of these games and talk about what they like and their histories.

[@tomnieskens1466]

I always wanted to play it! As a kid who was born in 91' and no arcades in the netherlands, the Switch is my way to finaly play neo geo. King of monsters was the first one on my mind. I dont get it. Damm that shit is boring. I love retro gaming, still play my megadrive and snes daily. But i dont get this game. I understand when you are a 10yr kid back then it looked awesome. It still does. But game whise. I dont get it.

[@DawnLong-s3k]

@miketate3445 You're exactly right!

[@jeffbayard4368]

I guess some people forgot about Aggressors Of Dark Kombat...

[@ScarletSprites]

I just played that this past week to see if it was as bad as I remembered it. The answer is yes.

[@chuckyluvsu13]

Yeah that game is pretty trash... it is a shame because it looks good but once you get into it you realize there is nothing but cheap AI stealing any fun that might be away from you... I remember really trying to like this one but it just wasn't meant to be.

[@bdillmore40]

Loved the video man! I'm glad you listen to, and read your subscriber's comments and messages. Ok of the games other people mentioned heres what I can say about them. Burning Fight: not sure if I played it before. Not the best beat 'em up. Sengoku 3: not sure if I played it before. The Super Spy: I do remember giving it a try, and hated it. The controls killed me more than the enemies did. 3 Count Bout: I've played before. I absolutely love how this game looks, and even sounds! Again, the controls just ruin the experience for me. I kinda wish I didn't buy it on my Switch.

[@bdillmore40]

Ninja Combat: not sure if I played before. Doesn't look like a great beat 'em up to me.

[@ScarletSprites]

It’s always fun to see what other people have to say. On a subjective list like this there are always going to be a wide variety of opinions. Ghost Pilots was another game that people called out a lot.

[@hollywoodpolo9872]

Scarlett did you see Tampa Tech's video on how to stream Pinball FX3 from your PC to the Legends Ultimate Pinball Machine? I'd love it if would do a livestream playing the FX3 tables? Which tables are you favorites, and which packs would you buy??

[@ScarletSprites]

I don't have any pinball machines, then alone virtual pinball. This sounds like something more up RetroRalph's alley.

[@stevesimmons6500]

super spy ?no way!! its great memory . plus quite an original arcade game hence short gameplay bursts .like operation wolf at the time , this is great well done SNK !!!

[@plowking813]

ninja combat was awesome in the arcades, playing this at 711 with my brother was great memories and I think was one of the earlier releases for neo geo. I love Neo Geo but always laughed at how some of the titles was clones of capcom like world heroes etc. Samurai Showdown 1 & 2 and Metal Slug series is my personal favs. 👍

[@ScarletSprites]

Yes, they totally chased a lot of what was popular. In some cases we were better for that. I don’t know that we needed THAT many 1:1 fighters but they certainly made some good ones.

[@chuckyluvsu13]

I totally agree with you Joe... I would have much preferred some more beat em ups as they are pretty scarce on the NEO, or in general just some more unique arcade experiences... but hey, what we got is pretty damn amazing as a lot of games on the NEO are of my favorite games of all time.

[@cbk12]

Lol the commercial i got before watching your video lmao 🤣

[@ScarletSprites]

Hey, whatever your browsing history provokes I don't need to know about. That's YOUR business and this is a judgment free zone.

[@visionop8]

I have terrible taste in everything! LOL! I saw The Kitchen and really liked it. I'm a huge death metal fan and for some reason, I like Burning Fight and Ninja Combat. Yep, I even see the obvious ripoff elements and for some dumb reason, I enjoy them. I think I appreciate the cheeziness of it all, and those games are WAY cheezy and the presentation makes me laugh at times. But I agree with this list and I totally understand where you're coming from. These games must hit you like when I'm around people who actually like The Fast and the Furious. I admit that I have bad taste, but I'm not braindead 😆😆 These kinds of discussions are way too fun. You get to see some of our dark secrets, guilty pleasures, or just laugh at how terrible some of these games were. Thanks for the video!

[@ScarletSprites]

It’s a totally subjective list so I definitely expected to see some defenders of these. The first video was really my personal hate list, the ones here probably a lot less so. But hey, these are the ones I saw the most mentioned so here we are. I totally dig that people find enjoyment in these and appreciate the subtleties even if they may be deemed “bad” from a technical standpoint. I have my guilty pleasures as well!

[@KenMasters.]

I know this is a late comment from the last one I posted, but I forgot to give my answer on my most hated Neo•Geo game that still got decent reactions: Double Dragon! Because I'm a fan of the originals, and SNK turned it into just another random Street Fighter II clone that makes the franchise lose its charm, style, personality, originality and uniqueness. What makes it worse is that it was inspired by the live-action flop. SNK should've just rebooted the original Double Dragon trilogy onto the Neo•Geo, and add in a versus mode that plays similarly to Aggressors of Dark Kombat.

[@ScarletSprites]

I often think about this too. How great it would have been to have had a DD beat em up on the Neo Geo. Ugh, what a missed opportunity.

[@3shibuyallc486]

Turf Masters is my favorite Neo Geo / SNK sports game!! I can play all 18 holes and not get bored. It's challenging, fun and very cool looking!

[@ScarletSprites]

I think an argument could definitely be made that Neo Turf Masters is a Top 5 Neo Geo game.

[@3shibuyallc486]

@@ScarletSprites I totally agree, it's on my top 5 for sure!!

[@OldYagamikun]

Ahh, thank you - Finally, people being real about the travesty of Sengoku 3. So, so much wasted potential.

[@ScarletSprites]

It just makes me sad about what could have been.

[@jeffroberts9693]

Thank you! This game is not good. It's boring as hell.

[@scottmichaelhedge5055]

The nice sprite work does go a long way to make it playable, I think.

[@Zontar82]

1 and 2 it's where is at

[@KindaCool]

Pretty sure Ninja Combat was just busy aping Joe Musashi from Shinobi when they came up with the brilliant idea to name the protagonist Joe. Oh, SNK, don’t ever change!

[@ScarletSprites]

That's a good call! That thought hadn't crossed my mind.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Always a pleasure Scarlet. 8^)

[@scootercadogan]

To commemorate the upcoming super bowl you should do a top 5 best neo sports games!! My favorite is Neo Turf masters by a mile..The music, gameplay and of course Nancy's report...lol

[@ScarletSprites]

Not only is that the best sports game, it’s probably a Top 5 Neo Geo game. It’s fantastic. So much love for that one.

[@williamhowe1]

Wait a minute bad neo geo games? Do they exist?

[@ScarletSprites]

A few do! Overall though things are pretty good for early 90s arcade games though.

[@williamhowe1]

@@ScarletSprites But are any of them bad enough for an AVGN episode?

[@Smoot1000]

You are spot on with Super Spy! I have so much love for the unique presentation for the time that I can't not love it! And 3 Count Bout is absolutely amazing!... If you're playing an actual person on the player 2 controls... The computer is definitely cheap as hell! And as you said, the games presentation is fantastic. Sengoku 3 is one I still want to add to my lineup. I'm a sucker for art and presentation... and I already picked up a shock box for it so I'm committed to the hunt!🤣

[@ScarletSprites]

I actually have a marquee for Sengoku 3 I believe. I really really want to love it. It’s just a different game than the first two and likely partly why it gets more criticism. I’d still give it a shot. You have to be your own judge.

[@richardfan7157]

Get Sengoku 3! This is the first time I've seen anyone actually badmouth the game, usually most people dislike the first game, where there is no combo system whatsoever and most enemies die in one hit. Then again, most beat-em-ups are repetitive in and have to make up for it by various quirks and charms.

[@Smoot1000]

@@richardfan7157 Well, Robo Army is a pretty average beatem up and nobody talks bad about that game... So if it's better than Robo Army I'm in!

[@xAnthillx]

It’s kind of a shame that there are so many Beat ’em Ups on this list, but I can’t disagree. Good thing we still have stuff like Robo Army and Mutation Nation ...

[@ScarletSprites]

Those are definitely my two favorites as well.

[@jeff15]

Haven't really tried most of these. Will check them out shortly. Thanks for the heads-up ;) love your vids!!!

[@ScarletSprites]

Oh boy, well maybe we should make some Neo Geo videos of games you should actually play. These might not be all that great, lol.

[@jeff15]

@@ScarletSprites hahahah. Any secret cheat codes for these brutal games?

[@ScarletSprites]

I’m sure there is probably something out there. Nothing that I use though since I generally just don’t play too many of these.

[@KenMasters.]

Fun Facts about SNK’s Burning Fight (バーニング・ファイト) : • Much like how Capcom’s Final Fight was inspired by the film *Streets of Fire* (1984), Burning Fight is also inspired by another 80s action-thriller called *Black Rain* (1989). After the release of Burning Fight, a new action-thriller was released three years later that had a similar plot and characters to the game, the film is known as *Showdown in Little Tokyo* (1991). • Billy King is modeled after Dolph Lundgren; Ryu Saeba is modeled after Ryo Saeba from the manga, anime, and OVA series *City Hunter* (1985 - 1991), as well as Guy from Final Fight; Duke Edwards is basically the typical “blonde brawler in blue” beat ‘em up character much like Billy (Double Dragon), Cody (Final Fight), Axel Stone (Streets of Rage), Snake (Datsugoku), Berserker (The Combatribes), Paul (Riot City), etc. • This is one of the only SNK hits that got left into obscurity, simply because Duke, Billy, and Ryu never made it on the spot in *The King of Fighters* franchise. Instead, Duke Edwards appears in *KOF 2000* as a “striker” (assist fighter) for Ramon, as well as making a few cameo appearances in *KOF '94: Rebout* where Duke has a background cameo in Mexico; also in *KOF 2002: UM* where he is shown in the Neo Geo World stage; and lastly *Neo Geo Battle Coliseum* where Yuki transforms into Duke during his Submarine Screw after using Memory Card Slash.

[@ScarletSprites]

Good rundown and facts man! Thanks for sharing. I really like Showdown in Little Tokyo, sadly one of the few Brandon Lee films we got. Burning Fight definitely has the vibe of the late 80s early 90s action movies going for it.

[@Demokirby]

Feel like Sengoku 3 would be a perfect canidate for a QoL romhack imo. So much quality elements implemented poorly.

[@3rdFloorArcade]

These Neo Geo videos are great my dude! 👍

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks man, more on the way. That’s kind of what goes on over here for better or worse.

[@Schmeck626]

I really disagree with this list. (I understand it is a fan list) I recognize that every game on this list has issues, but I think it's a stretch for these to be considered among the worst. Many of these games are criticized for being repetitive, but that is true of so many arcade games, especially beat'em ups. I would play any of these games over Top Player Golf, Legend of Success Joe, Riding Hero, Ghost Pilots and a few others. Many of the games listed were early titles, but I appreciate many of the early Neo Geo titles for their variety. The developers didn't always hit the mark, but I prefer those games to the deluge of fighting games that overwhelmed the releases in the middle/end of the Neo Geo's run.

[@ScarletSprites]

That last sentence I feel sooo much. I often wonder what could have been had that craze not hit. I’m guessing we could have gotten some really fantastic versions of some of these games as developers better understood the hardware. I agree on Ghost Pilots too. Maybe the worst shooter on Neo Geo?

[@Schmeck626]

@@ScarletSprites I think so. I'm not a fan of Captain Tomaday either, but I may be in the minority on that opinion.

[@_kikaso]

Oh man, completely agree on 3 Count Bout. I *love* the presentation and graphics but the gameplay sucks. I like the attract mode more than actually playing it. I feel the same regarding King of the Monsters.

[@ScarletSprites]

Hah, yeah the attract mode gets you all jacked. The game looks phenomenal and just begs to be played. And then you do...

[@MrBen2177]

Still eagerly waiting for a patch that solves the gameplay of 3 count bout. It’s so cool and pretty in all other aspects.

[@ScarletSprites]

That would be cool if someone talented were able to fix it. Not sure how many people are actually interested in that beyond the Neo crowd though. It would be a cool sell to the wrestling fans out there though too.

[@TheRealJPhillips]

that would be a wish come true

[@dragonpunchdave1350]

Looks like Duke from Burning Fight was having a hard glitch of time with that thug in pink, it was fun and interesting to see what viewers thought were the top worst games on Neo Geo. Haha!

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah, I wasn’t totally surprised by some of these and so just called out some of my complaints about them. Ghost Pilots is another one that came up a few times.

[@Shadowbann3d]

Haha nicely done!! Nailed it with Sengoku 3 and Burning Fight 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Was that a reference to ‘Bloodsport’?

[@ScarletSprites]

Lionheart? No, that’s it’s own Van Damme movie where he is a street fighter.

[@Shadowbann3d]

@@ScarletSprites That’s the one! I had my wires crossed..the name of the movie was ‘AWOL’ over here (had to Google Lionheart) 🙂

[@ScarletSprites]

Oh that’s an interesting Van Damme fact I didn’t know. Thanks for sharing that.

[@JopieHaargel]

@@ScarletSprites Over here it was called Wrong Bet, I had the VHS. As in: "It's on Attilla, man! All the money's on Attilla!"

[@Mike-te8mo]

Anyone who is old enough to remember the early 90's will tell you that the vast majority of NeoGeo games were painstakingly average at best. SNK never were and never have been a top tier game development company. The only 2 reasons the NeoGeo received any attention back in the day was because 1.) It was ridiculously priced 2.) You could play literal arcade games at home during the era where arcades were exploding in popularity. Unfortunately for SNK, it was CAPCOM and KONAMI that caused the explosion. Ask any kid back then what arcade games he wanted at home and he'd more than likely say "TMNT, Simpsons, X-Men, StreetFighter 2, and Mortal Kombat." Absolutely no-one was piling into the arcades to play Art of Fighting, King of Monsters, Mutation Nation, Fatal Fury, or Robo Army.

[@ScarletSprites]

That was kind of my argument for King of Monsters. I truly only gave it pity quarters at a time when I had SF2, Sunsetriders, Turtles, NBA Jam, T2, etc. available to me. It was occupying my time until a better machine was available. I will say though, I was one of the few who did checkout the Neo Geo to see what games were in rotation. I played a lot of MS back then. Based on stories I’ve heard from others though, particularly Europe and South America, some of the Neo titles were a lot bigger there than they ever were here in the States. Street Slam surprisingly seems to be a good example of that.

[@hamstrungharry259]

So many Ninjas who are named Joe.

[@ScarletSprites]

So true!

[@JeremyPeeples]

Good to see Slam Masters get some love - I'm hoping that hits the Switch online service soon.

[@ScarletSprites]

I had the SNES cart back in the day. Awesome to be able to play the real arcade version in modern day.

[@JeffYPbPr]

This list is funny. Funny because in my mind I feel the same way. Tske sengoku 3. I wanted to like but sheesh. Bore fest. Great video man!

[@ScarletSprites]

Spoken by you the people! Sengoku 3 and 3 Count about have such high potential. It’s really a shame.

[@jeeshyness3330]

whatever you guys sengoku 3 is fantastic! crappy for credit feeding, but it's combo system is crazy! It's one of the few beat em ups I can play basically forever because the combo system is so open ended and it's so stupidly hard :)

[@ScarletSprites]

It definitely has its fans. Part of the issue may be how much of a departure it is from the first two. As you mentioned, it’s very different. Imo it definitely looks a lot better than either of those games and I’m capable of enjoying it in small doses. Would have been great if the enemies could have been mixed up just a tad more.

[@Ish0tJR]

Great vid as usual. I’m surprised nobody mentioned the Japanese only quiz games, but maybe that would be cheating.

[@ScarletSprites]

Twice now I cut out mentioning them. It’s almost like they’re their own thing. I didn’t take the mahjong or quiz games into account when doing the last video or this one.

[@SkyScourgeGod]

This was an awesome idea for a video! I am admittedly sad to not see Art of Fighting 2 here, easily my most hated Neo Geo fighting game but hey, you can't win em all I suppose. My thoughts on the games mentioned here though (keep in mind that I'm not going to rag on you since this video is about OUR thoughts so you're off the hook my man lol XD): Burning Fight - I never really had too much interest in this one based on how it looks alone. After seeing it and hearing about it from here though, it's quite funny how much they ripped off from Final Fight in this game. This one also came out a full year after the MVS released so there' no excuse why it wasn't better. There are far better beat em ups on Neo Geo than this one, an easy pass. The Super Spy - I personally don't mind this game. It's similar to Crossed Swords, just with guns and fists instead of swords. Not perfect, but not bad. 3 Count Bout - I'm not much of a wrestling fan, and after hearing about this one here I'm pretty convinced that I wouldn't like this game either. Sengoku 3 - I happen to own the 2nd game in this series and I thought that one was pretty awesome. Sengoku 3 isn't on CD so I'll have no chance to play it, but after watching it I can tell that even though it looks fantastic the repetition will bring it down quite a bit. Sengoku 2 didn't have this problem, even Mutation Nation was better in that regard. Still a much better game than most others mentioned here and in your last video. Ninja Combat - I have to be honest here. Even though the animations are stiffer than a man about to get laid I'd still give this game a go. There are worse games overall on the Neo Geo than this. Ninja Combat is also a very early Neo Geo game being released on the MVS in 1990, the AES in 1991 and the CD in 1994. Each year of the games release is also the same year its respective hardware it played on was released as well so I find it very difficult to rag on Ninja Combat. It's like saying the Magnavox Odyssey or Atari 2600 sucks because they're so primitive, not exactly a fair judgement since they're one of the first of its kind. Games had to start somewhere and Neo Geo is not exempt from this. That's all I've got here bro, hope you have a great day! :)

[@ScarletSprites]

That’s a fair rundown. As with anything subjective there are bound to be discrepancies and healthy counter arguments. I too really like Sengoku 2. It’s probably my favorite in the series. I’d also call out Mutation Nation as my favorite beat em up on the system!

[@SkyScourgeGod]

@@ScarletSprites This is very true. It's like the saying goes: beauty is in the eyes of the beholder or even one mans trash is another mans treasure. It all depends on the person and how they feel about it. ;) Bro, if I could high five or fist bump you right now I would! Mutation Nation is an excellent Neo Geo beat em up, way better than many people give it credit for. The animation is silky smooth, the graphics are top notch and the gameplay is very solid. A friend and I played this one together on coop one morning and we were having fun the entire time. Our only regret was that we didn't finish it before he had to leave for work, lol. I'm pretty torn between Mutation Nation, Robo Army and Sengoku 2 as my favorite Neo Geo beat em up, but any of them will give you a great experience.

[@ScarletSprites]

I try to vary the genres that are in my 4-slot at any time. Mutation Nation is almost always repping the beat em ups. I switch it out for Robo Army on occasion but almost never Burning Fight.

[@SkyScourgeGod]

@@ScarletSprites That's pretty cool that you have a 4-slot MVS. Is it consolized or inside a cab? I'm dabbling in the idea of getting a consolized 1-slot so I can have a chance to play the games that never made it to CD. I don't have intentions of collecting AES or MVS carts due to cost, but a nice multicart or Darksoft flashcart would be a neat piece of hardware to own instead. It will help save some money in the long run while I scoop up all the CD games.

[@ScarletSprites]

I have it inside of a cabinet. The CD consoles are cool, I used to have a top loader. They seem more appealing these days than ever with the ODE solution. I always liked the CDZ but I’ve never owned one. I also don’t think I’d recommend collecting carts at this juncture, except maybe a handful of games that you really like maybe? Between the MiSTer, the flash carts you mentioned, and the ODE there are a lot of great options out there.

[@Meubeu1]

Some games being on this list is outrageous, even tho I think a lot of Neo Geo games are overrated (like the beat them ups, but same could be said about Konami ones.... sorry), I can't see one worse than Legend of Succes Joe really.

[@ScarletSprites]

LoSJ is brutally bad and consistently seen as the worst of the worst. Power Spikes II though that edges out Joe for me personally. I just really hate that game.

[@Meubeu1]

@@ScarletSprites Didn't play that one enough to hate it, that might change

[@zanegandini5350]

Yeah I was definitely expecting Legend of Success Joe to be here, for similar reasons to Ninja Combat. It makes the Neo Geo look weak.

[@ScarletSprites]

LoSJ was already on the first video. That’s why it isn’t here.

[@zanegandini5350]

@@ScarletSprites Yeah I just watched it now. My bad for seeing them out of order lol

[@migueldias8546]

2:43 It's hard to put The Super Spy in the worst game list because of its innovative aspect (for the time). It's hard to play this game nowadays and enjoy it. I should have say impossible. No doubts. But back in the days, there was nothing like that. Just the size of the sprites made that game "jaw dropping". People discovering Neo Geo today should skip that game but it helped sell the system and present it as desirable....

[@ScarletSprites]

Totally agree. I was blown away just staring at the attract mode. I couldn’t wait to play it.

[@PROShineKITO]

Really good list of terrible games, I totally agree!

[@afropowa1598]

I can't believe I forgot to mention this game in your 1st video: Super Dodge Ball! This game really hurt my head with that constant zoom in & out crap. It's not nice & smooth like Art Of Fighting & Samurai Shodown it's just really painful for me!

[@ScarletSprites]

I go back and forth on that one. I play it every few months or so. I’d 100% agree the zoom feature isn’t used in an ideal way. I think the vision was probably greater than the execution.

[@beatsinmyhead9919]

I'm surprised that no one picked Ragnagard. The graphics have not aged well.

[@ScarletSprites]

I would agree with you. That’s another one I almost never play.

[@chadmolitor6691]

I'd say most of these games aren't really "bad" but the price point adds a lot of gas on the fire. I'd be fine playing burning fight in the arcade for a few bucks, compared to other beat em ups prior to final fight its decent, but BUYING it for play at home is a different story. When you're dumping $100 - $300 on a neo geo game it better be DAMN GOOD.

[@ScarletSprites]

I often thought that when I’d read EGM. I’d see the reviews for Neo Geo games and think that they should all be 9s and 10s for the money they would cost to come home.

[@chadmolitor6691]

@@ScarletSprites you would THINK so. But no, Burning fight is not a $200 game. Maybe $30 tops.

[@InvictvsNox]

It's really awesome to see some of these games. Sengoku 3 looks like the biggest disappointment, but now I'm interested in the series. I don't have enough Beat Em' Ups on my shelf. :P

[@InvictvsNox]

Also this 8:26 character appears to be similar to you. New pixel art avatar if you ever need one lol

[@InvictvsNox]

I think the biggest thing that surprises me is just how many of these older arcade games are basically just pixelated Kung Fu movies with the same awful plotline but with great visual effects

[@ScarletSprites]

The first Sengoku is available for Sega CD. It’s not terrible either. The second one is probably my favorite though. Visually and arguably control/mechanics the third is supreme...it just is sooo monotonous.

[@richardfan7157]

Sengoku 3 is awesome, and at worst is an average game, not one of the worst on the Neo Geo. Sengoku 1 is worse in every way, not only repetitive, but most enemies did in one hit so forget about any combos.

[@BeAsT1x5]

in regards to burning fight. Ryu actually wears dunks... which guy ends up wearing in the street fighter games later

[@ScarletSprites]

Bitch stole my look ima steal it back.

[@Emceemur]

3 count Bout looks a LOT like Saturday night Slammasters. So I think Id like it. Burning Fight looks ok too for what it is. All of these LOOK good and sometimes that makes other things easier to forgive. Good look at these 👍

[@ScarletSprites]

Go ahead and get to your third match in 3 Count Bout and tell me if you like it. It looks SO GOOD though.

[@DavidGarcia-qf7gc]

Ninja Combat is almost Gang Wars 2. And Sengoku 3 is a stepdown from 2.

[@ScarletSprites]

Sengoku 3 could have been so great. It does feel like a different type of game than the first two which is what I think they were going for. It just didn’t work out unfortunately.

[@mccarseat]

This list just reminds me of the time I got all excited and bought Ninja Combat on eBay for a killer price...having confused it with Ninja Commando. Ugh.

[@ScarletSprites]

Now THAT’s rough! Condolences. At least you still got a Neo Geo game and...some laughs.

[@mrhyde2937]

Not worth playing super spy if you can play crossed swords 2 imo

[@ScarletSprites]

I haven’t had a way to play that on original hardware. Best I have now is MiSTer which is close enough for me.

[@TheChrisBeans]

Sengoku 3... wasn’t expecting that!

[@ScarletSprites]

I see it mentioned here and there on forums as well. I think in part it gets criticized because it is a departure from the formula of the first two. It definitely has its fans too though.

[@TheChrisBeans]

@@ScarletSprites it’s no Streets of Rage 2 (or the inferior Final Fight (maybe a debate for another video?!)), but I honestly think the presentation, the slick gameplay, and variety in move set counteract the lack of variety elsewhere. It’s repetitive, but never a chore to get through. I get lists like this are subjective though, and that adds to the fun and conversation. Top video as ever, and thanks for the opportunity to disagree 😏

[@ScarletSprites]

Of course! I would expect healthy disagreements on subjective lists. Thanks for engaging.

[@asadavis9532]

Actually never heard of Super Spy. Can't wait to not get it 😅

[@ScarletSprites]

It’s one of the earlier games that showcased the Neo. It’s worth playing (for ten minutes) purely as a history lesson. But yeah, I wound t waste too much time or money.

[@wallacemaldonado7710]

I HATE" When Companies rip-off Capcom!

[@evanb4466]

No gururin? That’s horrendous!

[@ScarletSprites]

Part 3 coming up! Lol.

[@kriseric1]

Excuse me, Sengoku 3 is infinitely more playable than Sengoku 1. It has been in my cab non stop for the last 12 months

[@ScarletSprites]

I’m glad that you are enjoying it.

[@GunstarHero21]

I'm surprised you didn't talk about Sengoku 3's Final Boss. Whoever designed it shouldn't be allowed to work on video games ever again lol You also didn't talk about the combo system which you can just kinda touch of death almost every enemy. (but doesn't help the awful pacing and having the longest part of the game being the final stage itself and that's BEFORE the final boss)

[@ScarletSprites]

I don’t honestly think I’ve ever had the patience to play through Sengoku 3 to the end. Maybe a few years ago, but if I did it was pretty forgettable.

[@zanegandini5350]

I've tried both Sengoku and Sengoku 3 (Not the second because my multicart doesn't have it), and yeah, they do get quite repetitive. I would much rather play Golden Axe or Streets of Rage, because even though they don't look as impressive as Sengoku, I don't get bored playing them. I feel SNK had a tendency to focus on style over substance when it came to their beat em ups. I'd have to say none of the games here even come close to the disappointment of Legend of Success Joe, and while I haven't played Riding Hero, I've heard many bad things about it. Kind of unfortunate, because you'd think the Neo Geo would have more games like it to show off its scaling capabilities, similar to Sega's Super Scaler games like Outrun and Hang-On.

[@ScarletSprites]

Riding Hero just wasn’t much fun in the arcade because it lacked fun controls and wasn’t a vast improvement over Hang-On. Racing people with joysticks just wasn’t as great as a having a wheel or handlebars.

[@zanegandini5350]

@@ScarletSprites Yeah but that's no excuse for them to drop the ball as hard as they did, after all Super Hang-On and Outrun are great on the Sega Genesis.

[@richm4100]

Alot of Neo Geo games have aged really badly, the problem is that they were made for the sole purpose of taking your money in the arcades, hard to play most them for longer than 5-10 mins. There some stsnd out games though :)

[@ScarletSprites]

That’s definitely part of it. I think in their natural habitat, the arcade, you get a lot more leeway because you’re not expecting someone to evaluate the game like you would on a home console.

[@MSBomberman94]

Can’t agree to Sengoku 3 - great presentation, sound and graphics. You can select section at the beginning and hey, beat‘m ups are always repetitive 🤷‍♂️. But why not Sucessful Joe - is it really better than this (so why not listed).

[@ScarletSprites]

It was covered in the first video.

[@MSBomberman94]

@@ScarletSprites ah OK - missed this so far (will view it soon 😉)

[@nathaniel2794]

Yeah buddy, spot with 3 count bout it looks like it would be so good but it’s just not. Last time I played sengoku 3 I thought maybe I just don’t like beat em ups anymore. Nah it’s just the game 😀

[@ScarletSprites]

The first two are better imo. Three definitely has its fans though. It’s just a different type of game and arguably isn’t really a beat em up at all, or, wasn’t intended to be. Either way, it’s a shame because with a little more polishing it could be sooo good.

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

To me Sengoku 3 is fun. But I did notice that it started feeling repetitive.

[@ScarletSprites]

A few tweaks here and there and it could have been the best in the series.

[@revengestory]

It’s repetitive in the same way that most beat em ups are, the art style, graphics and animations are great, the worst thing about this game is the super cheap, special move spamming bastard of a end boss

[@neildarr]

Good call on these

[@ScarletSprites]

The people spoke!

[@seansomething9779]

Stakes winner and a bunch of sports titles should beat out.. basically all of these. Besides ninja combat that one's pretty bad

[@ScarletSprites]

That’s something that rarely gets talked about; the number of sports games on Neo Geo. Everyone always brings up the number of fighting games it has. It’s not often you hear someone complain about the number of soccer/football titles.

[@RayCommend]

Sengoku 3 is one of those games that you WANT to like. Unfortunately, it beats you into submission after a few levels of its repetitive and overthought gameplay.

[@ScarletSprites]

Totally agreed. The potential for it to be sooo good is just sitting there. It’s like a tease.

[@super-retro-city]

This is gonna be great!

[@ScarletSprites]

I always appreciate the optimism!

[@kennyzia2795]

Ashita no Joe: am I a joke to you? :P

[@ScarletSprites]

That was the first video (my personal list).

[@kennyzia2795]

The anime was really good though. Also, I gotta finish the manga at some point.

[@JackTheGamer3]

Nuuu! You didn't include art of fighting 2!

[@ScarletSprites]

That could easily be a part 3. So many other ones people called out too, like Top Players Golf and Ghost Pilots.

[@JackTheGamer3]

@@ScarletSprites WOAH okay ghost poilet is actually a good game :D but you should also include kof 94 as a bad neo geo game!

[@billcook4768]

Burning Fight is not a bad game. It’s not a very good game or anything. But it doesn’t belong on a list like this. If I walked into a pizza place back in the day and that’s all they had, I’d drop in a few quarters. And have some fun.

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah, it wasn’t on my personal worst list but it did surface a lot in the comments. I play it every now and then and occasionally the cart finds its way into my cabinet. When that happens it’s usually only a matter of time until someone asks “don’t you have Final Fight too?”

[@msamiullah001]

I was fooled by Sengoku 3 many years ago, it looks like a genuine game in the beginning but shows its true colors very quickly i,e, extremely boring !!!

[@ScarletSprites]

Same, it just isn’t for me. It sure looks nice though!

[@TyroneKing1977]

Totally hated playing Prehistoric Isle. BS too hard. Short game thank god. Nice graphics but shit game. Hope the sequel is better.

[@LindaTheGAMERGal]

Here we go!

[@ScarletSprites]

You know it.

[@PabstOban]

3 Count Bout is gorgeous, I actually think it looks better than Saturday Night Slam Masters... it’s just frustrating and not fun to play, which is the worst thing a game can be.

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah, pretty much spot on. I just can’t imagine being an artist for some of this stuff and going balls to the wall back then only to see the game fall on its face.

[@PabstOban]

@@ScarletSprites I’d love to see this game remade... like a Steam Kickstarter. Take the original assets, add animations, characters, moves modes and most of all make it fun. I’d kickstart the F out of that. That and a damn Ice Hockey game.

[@scootercadogan]

Do you Really believe Sengoku 1 was a reputable game? C'mon kid.

[@ScarletSprites]

I do. I’d take it over 3, even the Sega CD version. Personal preference.

[@scootercadogan]

I respect your opinion...Loved the haunting soundtrack though especially the ghostly chanting in the overworks stages... freaking love your channel man. You are doing the Neo community a great service.

[@ScarletSprites]

Likewise! I knew subjective lists always bring differing opinions. I do appreciate seeing people defend the games they love.

[@timothypeters7160]

Ski neo geo worst...is better than most others best

[@ScarletSprites]

In some cases you’re totally right.

[@Evercade_Effect]

🤣🤣🤣🤣Totally agree. I like these worst of videos are very fun.

[@ScarletSprites]

Thank your peers for this list, lol.

[@KING_KONK]

It just goes to show how great the neo geo is when these are the worst games out there lmfaooo #ELITE NEO GEO

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah, that’s a good way of looking at it too.

[@MrBen2177]

I really like burning fight.

[@ScarletSprites]

That's definitely one that people seem to go either way on. It for sure does have some redeeming qualities.

[@davidjames5043]

Turf Masters is so great. Can't play top players golf, not in same league.

[@ScarletSprites]

It's not even close. Turf Masters is arguably a Top 5 Neo game imo.

[@davidjames5043]

@@ScarletSpritesTurf Masters definitely in my top 5 Neo Geo games, spent way too much time on it over the years.

[@eduarde9]

so not a single mahjong game?

[@ScarletSprites]

Or Quiz. Those are their own thing imo.

[@super-retro-city]

8:10 THANK YOU!!

[@ScarletSprites]

Lol, it's pretty bad. Even grabbing gameplay footage for this was less fun than it should be.

[@super-retro-city]

@@ScarletSprites right!? This is one of those games that I just avoid at all costs. #painful

[@LuisOrtiz-xo5kc]

Fight Fever is by far the worst Neo-Geo game ever made.

[@ScarletSprites]

That one made my personal list (earlier video). It’s complete trash. Amazing that even got shoved out the door.

[@xxthecreativekitsunexx7966]

You had me till you slammed Sengoku 3, out of all the side scrollers (very few on the Neo a true shame) You lost me entirely, the combo system and the music are far above anything that was available on the Neo, the orignal games were far worse not unplayable but nothing remotely special. Unlockable characters that add to replay and challenge make this a MUST PLAY on the Neo Geo for anyone wanting a two player beat em up. Not to mention the Golden Axe style magic moves really add to the game play, it is obvious you really don't know how to play the game other then the slam the A button or B button over and over without really seeing how deep the combat system is for a side scroller. I agreed with all of your other picks but Sengoku 3 is where I draw the line as I own the MVS version and play it to death and its a major blast with guests over who have never played it and love side scrollers. Unfair to put this in the list as there is more to the game then you even bother to let people know is even available to them.

[@ScarletSprites]

Lol. “Don’t blame the ol’ Joe, this isn’t my list, but YOURS.”

[@TheRealJPhillips]

good one sir! good one...

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks man! This one was really all you guys though!