Gamesir Kaleid Xbox 500hz

[@GuiilhermeMachado]

thank you for the test, great video

[@thephototechy]

Hey you are most welcome! Thanks for all the support

[@Lucid_Dreams467]

Thank you so much, i have the Kaleid Flux, i guess it is same for the Kaleid Flux, so i am gonna set mine to 500hz.

[@theswagger5386]

Thanks so much for the vid, very helpful!

[@AmericanBloodTV]

1000hz on g7se still feels better than 500hz on xbox but on the Kaleid I don't feel difference but I feel the face buttons on Kaleid are more mouse clicky and noticed they don't go all the way in like on g7se so could be more responsive too.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, have you tried Kaleid with 500hz on Xbox yet? I didn’t feel much difference myself with 1000 and 250 with Kaleid on Xbox. 500 definitely seems to improve the performance a bit on Xbox. Face buttons do feel nice, but I hardly use them so personally fine with G7se membranes as well. I was honestly hoping either trigger stops not even 4 back buttons for Kaleid, but I guess the wait is longer.

[@AmericanBloodTV]

@@thephototechy I swear when we had 1000hz option on xbox itself we were getting it. It felt way more responsive then it does now. I have tried the Kaleid, I notice it from 250 to 1000 but 500 and 1000 seem the same to me. but only used it for day. I play MLB the show so notice it the most with how fast I can swing back pressing A. That's why I feel face buttons could be move with Kaleid however I feel G7 SE is faster after a year of usage. Biggest thing for me is after a year, my g7 se still only 0.4% error on gamepad tester. No other controller compares. How about Thrustmaster ESwap x2? I heard its more responsive than g7 however when I bought it I didn't feel it and didn't like paddle placement, so I returned it.

[@whiterspon573]

i feel differencies i have Kaleid and oh my its awesome :D

[@haxer7130]

These videos are top notch can't appreciate more I have a question tho On Xbox Kaleid controller is the headphone jack usable ? mic and also audio becuse I will use it on xbox and im currently running elite series 2 using the jack for headphone Have you ever tried and what will be your points for kaleid if xbox headset jack was solid 10

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, so series2 IMO is the benchmark when it comes to sound quality. The only controllers that can sorta match it, are Rog Raikiri,EswapX and stealth Ultra. For whatever reason, third party controllers, specially cheaper ones just don’t have that full audio experience as the elite series 2 and Kaleid is the same. I played a couple of games with Epos H6 open back and had to change the headset to Nova 1x as Kaleid wasn’t able to give a decent volume on epos. Even on the Nova 1x I found it lacking in audio quality, which is my experience with many third party controllers. Also elite series 2 will give the best audio latency results, it’s something I’ve covered in a video already, and about to post another quick video of some audio latency results today or tomorrow, you’ll see in the video what I mean by audio latency on Xbox.

[@haxer7130]

@@thephototechy thanks for the feedback I just ordered gamesir kaleid Xbox can't wait for the next video keep up the good work!

[@boosted91]

Awesome testing methods!

[@shanestarita3807]

Got my Kaleid a week ago for Father's Day and have now updated fw and running 500hz and set up similar to your settings. I've been playing Xdefiant with standard Xbox One controller with sort of trigger stops but I've now modified it and have clicky hair triggers- I'll be playing with both controllers tonight so let's see

[@kinkaneki2625]

does vibration on trigger does not take place at 1000hz?

[@Konigx]

Gold AK, ACR and M44 awesome! It must be more than 16 hours of play. or did you use all the multipliers on weekends?

[@thephototechy]

Hey thanks bro! So my total time played is 70 hours, please don’t judge me, I was testing controllers 😂. The 15-16 is on Kaleid only, rest is distributed over G7se, edge, fuison pro3 and EswapX.

[@nathanjuedes2612]

I just got the Kaleid 3 days ago. I only have an Xbox no pc. I play xdefient and apex. I use a wired headset plugged into the controller. Whenever I use my triggers to shoot my weapon the controller disconnects. Sounds like it’s a known issue and you need a pc to download an update. I reached out to gamesir to ask if they would push an update through the nexus app on Xbox to fix the problem. No clear answer yet. For now just playing with my g7se. Might ask for a replacement from Amazon to see if the issue is just with the controller I received.

[@thephototechy]

Ah bro that’s a shame, this is exactly what I meant in the video, that we should have the best possible performance out of the box, not with all this tinkering needed. I’d highly recommend you get the update somehow and set it to 500hz, otherwise I think there are better options, like the standard G7. I honestly believe the HE sticks with the algorithm Gamesir have used, need the higher polling rates, as all the other Xbox HE sticks I’ve tried have a lower resolution, which I think is how they get a bit more responsive feel.

[@cchhaarriitthh94]

Hey bro are you aware with the issues with the mic not being clear enough or distorted at 500hz on Xbox? No matter what settings I changed in game on COD my friends cannot hear me in game. Thanks ! 🙏 I’ve got the kaleid btw

[@mr.fahrenheit555]

For games like cod, do you use hair triggers? If so, what are your trigger range. I can't seem to find a sweet spot.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro I keep mine at 5 min and 85 max with hair triggers on. This makes it I never un ads intentionally and never stop firing unless I mean to, also quick tapping single fire pistols and weapons work great for me. This is going to be unit dependent as your triggers might have a bit more or less dead spot at the beginning of the travel.

[@Artiick]

Wait how did you manage to oc the first party Elite Series 2? Isn't it PCB locked at 125?

[@louisswann3729]

Havent got my kaleid yet..soon hopefully but i havent updated my gamesir app on xbox so i can still navigate the polling rates 250 - 1000 ive always run both my g7 and g7se at 500 as i found that it was more stable for most games i play on console plus i got uber paranoid when the updates were locking out polling rate changes on xbox and you had to go to pc to change...i juss refused to and so far no issues with switching between rates 😂 so hopefully when my kaleid arrives ill see what takes place on console (🤞fingers crossed)

[@fourtyxx7306]

Would you recommend the kaleid over the snakebyte gamepad pro? I’m kinda stuck in between the 2

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro if you can go without trigger stops then Kaleid definitely makes more sense. Personally I’m not using any controller on a daily that has even a minor minimum deadzone that can’t be disabled, so for me Snakebyte just doesn’t see much gametime anymore. I still have to try that one in Xdefiant and that 3% deadzone of the Snakebyte might not be an issue. But for COD I’d say a controller with no minimum deadzone is a must, as I’ve shown a nasty bug on MW3 where minimum deadzones gets forced to standard 10%, so there’s a double deadzone effect then.

[@michi_srt]

Recently, I purchased the new Kaleid controller, and I noticed some audio issues. The output volume is significantly too high compared to the standard controller, and the audio captured by the microphone is very low and sounds bad. I asked around, and I am not the only one with this problem. Currently, I have version v1.49 connected to the Xbox. I also have a G7 SE that does not have this problem. Have you encountered this audio issue? Also, I would like to know how you managed to change the polling rate on the Xbox. I downloaded the firmware to get 1000Hz on PC (not to get the 1000Hz itself but to resolve the problem of the controller turning off every 5 minutes). Since I play on Xbox and cannot use the 1000Hz, I imagine I have 500Hz or 250Hz, but I don't understand which of the two options I have.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, so I played a few games with a headset connected and honestly the sound isn’t great for me. Mic is something I haven’t yet tried but will check and report back. My experience with cheaper third party controllers is not great when it comes to audio, so personally I use the Astro mixamp pro tr.

[@mikantpaddy7758]

Same issue i had with the audio when i tried my kaleid for the first time on my xbox series x..it was so loud compared to to my regular xbox controller and in the middle of my game i lost my coms and even the audio sounds broken like sometimes only the left side has a sound

[@LanLey-jo4fs]

What controller you think is the fastest in delay or response time? I play both FPS and fighting game.

[@thephototechy]

@@LanLey-jo4fs in all my tests G7se in 1000hz on seriesx has performed the quickest. I do have a feeling the standard G7 would beat it in 1000hz, it’s still something I have to test. Now all my tests have been stick response and not the buttons response.

[@DPTBassment]

I have a G7SE arriving tomorrow. So if I understand correctly… 1000hz WILL NOT work on Xbox but 500hz WILL work on Xbox?

[@ashleyibbitson7011]

Hi mate just wondering with these new kaleid xbox controllers does the flux one also do 500hz with audio too? And can you enable that from nexus app on xbox or does it require pc? I've got a laptop if that works for it

[@GHOST5AM]

Bro, I just bought kaleid and I have a question: is it possible to downgrade the Xbox version to 1.4.3? they appear to be the same control as the kaleid pc

[@thephototechy]

Not sure bro, I’ve never tried the pc version. There are 2 methods of enabling 1000hz as per Gamesir and I’ve tried both and the firmware number is 1.46-1.47 from them

[@Blazko381]

Why on 1000Hz not work trigger vibrations. On my G7 not work only audio from controller

[@stevejobs4447]

Hey, is 1000 hz better than 500 hz while playing on Xbox on the g7 (not SE)?

[@thephototechy]

@@stevejobs4447 hey bro so personally I’ve kept both the G7 and G7se at 1000 for Xbox. I do feel it to perform better for me, but I’m thinking of testing this a bit further to see if there’s a big difference.

[@stevejobs4447]

@@thephototechythanks for the feedback. Would you say the g7 is noticeably faster than the original series controller or the eswap s?

[@Shlarchey]

I’m on Xbox and play Xdefiant Is there a difference between 500 hz and 1000 se on the gamesir 7 se I just bought it. Also does the headset jack work at both levels.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, so I much prefer 1000hz and man I do love Xdefiant as well, currently only playing that game. G7se in 1000hz performs absolutely amazingly, but there is no audio from the jack even on 500hz, so for audio the G7se has to be set to 250hz, which is the issue. You can have your standard controller connected and get the audio from that whilst using G7se, or another audio solution like Astro mixamp, gamedac gen2 or a wireless headset.

[@Shlarchey]

@@thephototechy okay so I can just have a wireless controller on the side to join the party and have my headset plugged in and just have it set on my desk while I’m using the se plugged In to the Xbox. Is there any negative having 2 controllers connected at the same time?

[@ossmonkjr6515]

hello is it easy to setup the 1000hz on the kaleid flux im getting it soon im just trying to make sure?

[@markfromhungary3022]

Starting to like again the 2 back buttons, maybe i buy a gamesir g7 se, i really miss the high stick, i have 2-3 high controlfreaks

[@thephototechy]

Bro if audio os not needed from the jack, then G7se definitely makes sense for the 1000hz on Xbox. My concern is if Microsoft figures out a way to disable that system side without the controller needing an update, at that point I don’t think G7se is a good option if stuck at 250hz.

[@j0eykarate264]

Hi I have Kaleid flux and a g7se trying to get the best setting for playing Halo on PC. Been running gamesir app deadzones at zero and raw mode+hair trigger on both is there any better setting I can use?

[@xhooligan8898]

Trying to decide on a controller, i think im going with the g7 se unless the kaleid is better? It will be 100$ pc usage

[@thephototechy]

For pc bro, I think the Kaleid makes more sense as it’ll do a proper 1000hz without any issues. Unless you need the ergonomics of the G7se and ok with 500hz performance. One thing I’ll say is to check if HE will be the right choice o yourselves, as they are a bit different feeling than normal potentiometer sticks, and I honestly believe they need a higher polling rate to perform their best. I’d take the elite series 2 with its issues over G7se in 250hz, it wasn’t until the 1000hz update where I made the G7se my main controller, but that’s on Xbox.

[@xhooligan8898]

@thephototechy thanks man! I'm using it for mostly rocket league and a few solo games here and there but I'm mostly mnk

[@David-eh3ht]

@@thephototechyI play on Xbox is the kaleid better than the Se? Just trying to see which one to get

[@hieplu1037]

Hi bro, what is the polling rate of elite series 2, and is the kaleid in 500hz is faster than elite 2 ?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, elite series2 is 125hz and yes Kaleid will feel better than elite 2. But I have a video for planned comparing the elite with some other controllers, as in my pc tests, elite only came 1 frame behind the 1000 results of Kaleid. So if the difference is that minimal and we do have other benefits of 4 back pedals, amazing audio and some extra features, it could be that elite would be a better choice for some. Personally I wouldn’t buy another elite as I’ve experienced some issues on my unit, but so many seems to have great performance from elite series2 as well.

[@hieplu1037]

Honestly, this elite is my second after just 2 Weeks, it has the same problem again which is stickdrift, and has the same problem that you have described in your video comparing with the turtle beach stealth ultra

[@sk1iff]

What the kontrolfreak or analogs support this gamepad ?) i buy ps5 galaxy , and they dont hold on

[@jj09876]

Hi 👋🏻 1) I heard that the KALEID works with 1000hz on the Xbox Gamesir app, is it true? Someone said they release updates? 2) can I just use the Gamesir Nexus app on PC to set it to 500hz to be used on the Xbox? Do I still need to download the Gamesir Xbox app? So confused sir 😢

[@thephototechy]

@@jj09876 hey so if we set it to 1000hz it seems to it function like a licensed Xbox controller. Also in all my tests 1000hz didn’t show improved performance. 500hz still keeps the license which can be tested on pc, as it’s still recognised in the Xbox accessories app, and it also show’s improvement in performance on Xbox. To set up the 1000 and 500hz we do need to connect it to pc, as Xbox nexus no longer have that option.

[@thephototechy]

@@jj09876 hey bro so I just updated it to 1.49 which is the new version, and still 1000hz restarts the controller and it’s not shown in the accessories app. I do believe the 1000hz loses the license as when Gamesir announced 1000hz leaving Xbox app, they mentioned something along the lines of having true 1000hz for pc in an upcoming firmware. So this seems like a compromise made with Microsoft to keep the license and have true 1000hz for pc and Xbox takes advantage of 500hz.

[@jj09876]

@@thephototechy thank you sir for the input. Therefore I should download the Gamesir nexus app on PC, update the firmware and set polling rate to 500hz, then I don't have to download Gamesir app on Xbox right? 🙏🏻

[@thephototechy]

@@jj09876 yes but having the app on Xbox will allow you to make changes if needed, you just won’t be able to change it from 500hz to another report rate, but you won’t need to.

[@jj09876]

@@thephototechysubbed! You're the best! 🙏🏻💎

[@skreph2717]

Just got a PS5 slim. I must say I am having a much better experience on PS5 with stock controller.

[@thephototechy]

Bro I’m forcing myself to play more on my PS5, just so I can get used to edge 😂

[@skreph2717]

@@thephototechy I feel warzone looks better and plays better on PlayStation. I will be getting the edge next. No more GameSir for me. Love the PS5 controller with L1 and R1 for aim and shoot.

[@maikelstapper4347]

Butt is the g7se better then the eswap s without the 1000hz ?

[@thephototechy]

Not for me bro, if no 1000hz on G7se, I’d use the Eswap or Gambit. Now that we have Kaleid with 500, so if the 1000 goes away on G7se then I’d probably make Kaleid my go to.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy butt mabey have g7se then 500hz to then

[@BestGunny]

Man i love the hz for my G7SE even on 500hz the aiming just isnt there. Linear its a little better but its still not linear feel while controlling recoil. Very sad tbh. Gotta get a pc at this point.

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hi bro a ask when i have the kaleid and nexus app say is a update availble then not updaten right ? And have now the g7se version 6.30 is it have i the 1000hz or not more on xbox hope you answer me please

[@blackduck2323]

So what should I get for xbox kalied or g7se?

[@svevoromano4891]

i am struggling to connect it to the pc (i'm using parallels on macbook, no issue with the g7 se) any advice? i also refund the first and order a second one but still not connecting to the game sir (nexus) app.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro I dont have any experience of using it on a mac. I'd say reach out to Gamesir, as it should have the same capabilities as G7se.

[@raiden15crew85]

Which videogame is that? Looks like a Ghost Recon release.

[@thephototechy]

Hey it’s a new game by Ubisoft called Xdefiant

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hi bro the lastesr version for the g7se is 6.30 is that good for using 1000hz on xbox

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro that’s the one I have currently and 1000 works. I’ll check again and will double confirm as well later 👍

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy ok tnx.bro tnx you so much

[@dandizon4395]

Sorry can you please show a Video tutorial on how to manually update the Kaleid on the T4k app so we can overclock this controller?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro did you check the link for the tutorial? All we need to do is run the app and plug the controller in whilst holding the Xbox and menu button, the app then prompts the update process.

[@dandizon4395]

@@thephototechy yes but nothing ever pop up saying it was a successful update waited for more than 10min

[@dandizon4395]

@@thephototechy was it supposed to say it was updating?

[@thephototechy]

@@dandizon4395 yeah it’ll show that it’s updated. Also after this the nexus will show report rate option.

[@dandizon4395]

@@thephototechy yeah nothing my controller just dark and on the t4k app its saying device not detected

[@abo-ali10]

I have an Xbox and didn't see the option to set the frequency to 1000Hz

[@Kingolaconny]

Because xbox is locked at 125 mhz polling rate 😴

[@singleeyedmonk-2825]

On xbox is g7 at 1000hz better or 500hz?

[@thephototechy]

Definitely 1000hz for G7 and G7se. The new Kaleid doesn’t do 1000 on Xbox and will improve only in 500hz

[@BA3YDADDY]

G7 SE is just a beast on Xbox playing Valorant, it’s so snappy.

[@thephototechy]

Bro how did you get Valorant on Xbox? I really need to try that game

[@mattnoone7662]

You can register for access for the beta ​@@thephototechy

[@maikelstapper4347]

With the 1000hz and use you raw mode ?

[@thephototechy]

@@maikelstapper4347 So for sniping in XD I use raw and normal weapons non raw. I keep 2 profiles with the settings so can change on fly when needed.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy without 1000hz think using raw better ?

[@sixfour4740]

Does g7 se work 1000hz on Xbox or only 500hz as well

[@thephototechy]

@@sixfour4740 hey bro G7se can do 1000hz on Xbox

[@sixfour4740]

@@thephototechy you have to change it to 1000hz on pc first ?

[@Revanchst]

What’s the default polling rate of the kaleid?

[@thephototechy]

250hz and it’s not bad, but setting to 500 definitely improves it noticeably.

[@cchhaarriitthh94]

@@thephototechyat 500hz on COD my friends cannot hear me clearly through the mic in game. What can I do please ? 🙏

[@ch3kn]

What polling rate out of the box?

[@vinylotus]

Could you do a video talking about stick curves? And what curve do you recommend on dualsense edge?

[@spidermonkeychase9920]

Hey how do you overclock it I have been trying on pc for like all day

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, follow the steps from the tutorial by Gamesir. www.gamesir.hk/pages/kaleid-series-1000hz-polling-rate-upgrade-tutorial

[@spidermonkeychase9920]

@@thephototechy I tried that but I'm not really this I'm not a tech person it said virus detected

[@thephototechy]

@@spidermonkeychase9920 hey the T4k app can be downloaded through the Microsoft store, that shouldn’t have any issues with windows firewall. Using the T4k means you don’t have to do the other custom method.

[@spidermonkeychase9920]

@@thephototechy thank you anyways I tried it and it didn't work didn't even connect

[@Troynex]

Now Near is the Controller on 250hz to 1000hz g7se on Xbox?

[@tylercarrigan5242]

G7se and he will pull just over 1000hz. I have the HE

[@neosaber4]

Why 500/1000hz are not usable anymore on xbox? I have g7 se

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro, the option was removed from Xbox app as per Microsoft instructions. You can set the report rate on pc and it saves on the controller

[@neosaber4]

@@thephototechy how can i do that??? And ho can i use a headset on xbox if my g7 is on 1000hz?

[@thephototechy]

@@neosaber4 bro so no audio when the controller is set to 500 or 1000 on G7se. You’ll need either a different audio solution like wireless or use another controller like the standard one plugged in as well, which should play audio whilst you use the G7se. The report rate has to be set on pc using the nexus app.

[@neosaber4]

@@thephototechy thanks a lot!!!!!!!

[@neosaber4]

@@thephototechy another question, is there any controller for xbox that allows you to overclock and use a headset? Or it is just a gamesir g7 se problem

[@maikelstapper4347]

And the g7se still 1000hz on xbox😅😅😅😅 please tell me mate

[@thephototechy]

Why bro so far we still have the 1000hz on Xbox with G7se. I do have a feeling that the next firmware update will remove it. Personally I’m not going to update mine, but if that happens, at least we have the Kaleid with similar enough performance now.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy khailed use really 500 on xbox

[@maikelstapper4347]

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[@tanjotsingh736]

w bro

[@tanjotsingh736]

hey i need help i tried to do the steps on the website to get 1000hz polling through the t4k app method but it didnt work when i held the buttons and connected my controller and relaeased the lights wouldnt turn on and on the wesbite it says i must have firmware version 1.46 but did they mean 1.36 because thats the firmware my kaleid shiiped with and it sasys my firmaware is up to date in the game sire nexus software. Thanks and sorry for any inconvenience

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro so I did the T4k method myself before even checking nexus, so definitely had the out of box firmware on my Kaleid and was able to update. I have since also tried the second custom method and again was able to install the firmware. T4k app I believe made the firmware 1.49 and custom install is 1.46. The custom intall did revert my nexus to a prior firmware than what it was on my laptop. Have you tried the second method yet?

[@tanjotsingh736]

@@thephototechy havent tried the second method yet but how did the contoller behave when u did the frist method ie how long did the update take and where the leds off during the update

[@tanjotsingh736]

beacuse i believe i might be doing it wrong

[@thephototechy]

@@tanjotsingh736 hey bro, so I just tried it right now. Downloaded the T4k app from Microsoft store and ran the app, held the xbox button and menu button with three lines in, plugged the usb in the controller whilst holding the buttons in and the app showed update in progress instantly, at this point I let the buttons go and it was done in probably 20 seconds. The app version of T4k is 0.3.3

[@tanjotsingh736]

@@thephototechy still not working for me ivs tried multiple times on different computers and after i plug it in whilst holding the app never changes to updating and the contoller remains powered off until i un plug and replug it again iwhtout holding buttons i tied second method but the zipped certificate is being flagged with a virus and i cant even allow it past windows defender because it auto deletes it

[@Zaxify6528]

How do you turn on kaleid 500hz on xbox?

[@SpeedGraff223]

Pre sure u need pc

[@maikelstapper4347]

Can flux use it to the 500 hz ?

[@thephototechy]

Bro I’m wondering the same thing, but haven’t used that one myself. Hopefully someone will comment about their experience with Flux.

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy butt when 1000hz is away for xbox whe can then the same whay kaleid can use on xbox 500 hz ?

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy if g7se not can use the 500 hz what kaleid can do then i most buy the kaleid

[@HRM.H]

Its just strange and off putting to me that these issues continue to happen.

[@thephototechy]

I know bro, we should have the best possible performance as standard and not needing to do all the extra stuff.

[@BringBack2Center]

I got 2 kaleids and both have tracking issues. My g7se tracks better.

[@singleeyedmonk-2825]

On xbox is g7 at 1000hz better or 500hz?

[@thephototechy]

@@singleeyedmonk-2825 hey with the G7 I always use the 1000hz as it feels better to me and my test results show an improved response as well.