GameSir Tarantula Pro REVIEW | TMR with 1000Hz

[@chronicmayhem]

*I WAS WRONG ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO MAP KEYBOARD BINDS TO THE CONTROLLER* You CAN do this with the GameSir Connect software (English software link in the description). You can bind any keyboard key or mouse function to any button on the controller. On the button assignment page of the app, click the button you want to rebind, click advanced settings at the bottom of the pop-out window and you will see all of the new options there to do this.

[@PhantasmXYZ]

The small caveat is those advanced keyboard and mouse binds are only available in Xinput mode (Switch and Dualshock 4 modes can only handle button binds and macros.) Steam settings only detects the gyro in Switch and DS4 mode... So, if you're wanting to use ALL advanced features at once (keyboard/mouse binds AND gyro) you're kinda stuck using the native app to map the latter. A niche but noteworthy tradeoff

[@Latin00032]

​@PhantasmXYZ Does the rebinding work when the app is off after you apply settings? Or, does the app need to stay on to keep the keys rebinded?

[@PhantasmXYZ]

@@Latin00032 works with app off, stored in controller memory

[@OfficialMyMindset]

@@PhantasmXYZ maybe a good idea to request it in the Discord to work with DS4 mode and switch. They seem to be good with updates atm

[@tcrviper]

In case someone has trouble performing the firmware update on the controller via the pc app, causing an update failure message; which, in my case, caused all button presses, including the triggers, to register as "B" button presses. Use the mobile app to perform the firmware update for the controller, which fixed my issues.

[@rabbitnetwork7429]

Nice review. Appreciate the detail on the tension of the sticks.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@rabbitnetwork7429 thanks! I thought that was important to mention as I've seen a lot of people complain that they feel hall effect sticks are too loose

[@chronicmayhem]

Note: When I am showing the PC software I am doing so wirelessly using the included 2.4ghz dongle.

[@chronicmayhem]

One more con that I wanted to mention: the opening for the USB C port on this controller is very small and recessed, so you're not going to be able to use most USB-C cables with this controller. If your USB controller has a wider shroud, it's not going to fit. The only cables I could get to fit with this controller was the one that came with it and the cable that came with the flydigi controllers. All my others would not fit.

[@stevensv4864]

6:40 the teory is good but actually is what they advertise? 12 bit linar 4000 sampling precision etc i mean if u compare with other gamesir before or any other brand hall effect

[@chronicmayhem]

Yeah, from what I've seen they're listing a higher number of points than what I've seen in articles about TMR sticks. I've seen some articles that list about 3000ish. I think I would need to look it up again. What's interesting is on the gamer website that 4000 you mentioned they don't give a unit to go with it....so its 4000 what exactly

[@stevensv4864]

@@chronicmayhem im just lazy to write, i mean 4096 resolution samplin..

[@stevensv4864]

well iknow this isnt gulikit but in their site put this Is the resolution of the TMR joystick much higher than Hall effect joysticks? No, that's not the case. Carbon film joysticks, TMR joysticks, and Hall effect joysticks are all linear devices. TMR joysticks and Hall effect joysticks are both a type of electromagnetic joystick. For game controllers, the bandwidth of these three types of joystick sensors is sufficient. The resolution mainly depends on the sampling precision of the backend MCU, and is not closely related to the joystick itself. So after replacement, the joystick resolution, polling rate, and other performance characteristics will be consistent with the original controllers.

[@elijnr]

Hey bro. The two extra shoulder buttons near the bumpers. Are they naturally reachable or hard to press

[@chronicmayhem]

​@@elijnr they arent hard to press but I think they are awkward to reach location wise

[@Michaud12]

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[@NMinatoS]

I'm currently divided between these and the Vader 4 Pro. Do they both offer a DS4/dualsense mode (with gyro support)? Also which one has the better rumble?

[@chronicmayhem]

They both show up as Xinput in Windows so I believe you can use them with ds4 but I will double check for you tonight. As far as rumble goes, my knee-jerk reaction is to say the Vader Pro 4. But again I will check that and reply to this again later.

[@J0rdan912]

Can't recommend choosing between them, they're like PS and Xbox custom controllers, good on their own, so I got both. Vader 4 Pro works just fine with gyro in both Switch and Xbox modes and easily customized. Tarantula is tricky and kinda limited with gyro support outside Switch mode. Tarantula is closer to Dualsense and Switch Pro HD rumble, so unless you're playing PS or Switch games with HD rumble support, you'll get high-frequency "raw" HD vibration without haptics in PC-Xinput games. Tolerable, but not the way Xinput vibration should be. On Vader 4 Pro you'll get a very standard rumble in grips and triggers, just like on stock Xbox controller, nothing special.

[@elijnr]

@@J0rdan912I’m looking to buy this controller but it just doesn’t make sense. It says it has 9 remappable buttons but only the two back ones are usable. I don’t play claw. How’s the shoulder extra buttons? Are they hard to press)

[@J0rdan912]

@@elijnr Yeah, without claw they're pretty much useless. I haven't tried it yet, but you can bind keyboard shortcuts to 4 face buttons or use it for emulator hotkeys. Shoulder buttons and centre are fine IMO but could've been better. Overall, it's just a gimmick, just like switchable buttons layout, without it it's just a solid symmetrical $70 pro controller, while many other 70+ aren't even that good. Extra face buttons are regular clicky tact switches, extra shoulders also clicky but cushioned with membranes or just very tactile membranes like LB-RB, I guess.

[@PROPHETBLXDE]

May sound silly, but once I’ve put the controller on the charging dock, how does it charge? Do I need to plug the dongle in? Or plug the USB wire into a brick or device like a PC or Laptop?

[@chronicmayhem]

No worries at all. So if you go to the bookmark in the video where I start talking about the doc, you see me unplugged a USBC, cable I had the other end plugged into my computer. Now correction from what I said in the video, that cable only transmits power to that port in the dock. It won't transport data so you still need the dongle plugged in separately to your computer, but that means you can have the cord for the charger plugged into a brick or your computer or really anything else with the USB port and it will charge the controller for you. I hope that helps

[@PROPHETBLXDE]

@@chronicmayhem Thank you. I have a HP Laptop so I hope that will be okay. But also will any brick or power source suffice? I don’t want to fry the controller, usb, dongle or the charging dock with something too powerful.

[@chronicmayhem]

@@PROPHETBLXDE Any one I assume would be good. There isn't one that comes in the box. So Some more information, amperage and current is a pull function, not a push meaning just because you're having a charger or a charging brick that has a super high and a bridge and capacity does not mean it's going to force that entire capacity on the device it's charging. The device itself has to have the capability to pull that much from the supply (the charger brick, usb port etec) so even if you put a super high capacity charging brick on this thing which I don't think there's one that comes with a cell phone or anything like that, that would be super high power. Anyway, the device in this case the charging dock would not be able to pull and unsafe amount from that charger. I hope that makes sense. Source: I'm an electrical engineer in my day job.

[@PROPHETBLXDE]

@@chronicmayhem Thanks! I believe I understand. If I’ve understood correctly. I could plug the dongle into one slot on my laptop and then plug the USB C wire into another slot and the charging dock, then place the controller on it to charge. My laptop is a newish model with Windows 11 and 8GB RAM.

[@chronicmayhem]

Yes. It would be completely fine doing that.

[@BrettRist]

I have this controller for cod I can’t put the map button anywhere on it and when you try cook a grenade it just throws it anyone know how to fix this?

[@chronicmayhem]

I guess I don't really understand what you're trying to do.. usually to cook a grenade you hold down a button and then release to throw it

[@BrettRist]

@@chronicmayhem yes and it just throws it, you can’t hold down the trigger and hold on to the item it just throws it

[@chronicmayhem]

Is that with the trigger stops on and off? That would be really annoying ​@@BrettRist

[@sergiomastromarino7981]

You have to put equipment behavior on Toggle instead of hold

[@Shady4891]

Will you be reviewing the Gamesir Cyclone 2?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@Shady4891 at this time probably not. Im still a small reviewer so unless a brand is sending me a controller to review I have to buy them myself so I am pretty picky about what I purchase. But if it's a pretty interesting controller and a lot of people request it then sure I'll definitely consider it

[@Shady4891]

​@@chronicmayhemmaybe send gamesir a message letting them know you have people requesting a review. Since the controller is still very new.

[@wepstin2961]

Do you know if you can connect the trantula to an xbox using the dongle or do you need an adapter like the wingman xb3?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@wepstin2961 I don't have an Xbox to test however GameSir states it does not natively support Xbox. Only PC, switch, ios and android. With that I would assume you would need to use an adapter. Hope that helps at least a little bit

[@wepstin2961]

@chronicmayhem ok thank you

[@bobby1379]

bro how u connect the apps with dongle? i already update the wireless dongle to 1000hz but still cant connect to the apps with dongle. did u also update the controller to the v.2.0.4 by any chance?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@bobby1379 yes to both. I updated the controller using the Android app to the latest firmware and then I updated the dongle like you see in the video and it just worked

[@bobby1379]

@@chronicmayhem oh yes thank you, i didnt want to update the firmware before because some youtuber said dont do it. lol... manage to update it now to v2.4 and it works. thanks

[@PaintballTaco]

Does this work with the Xbox series X as well?

[@chronicmayhem]

@@PaintballTaco its not "officially" supported for xbox. You still could use an adapter to get it to work on Xbox.

[@PaintballTaco]

@@chronicmayhem thanks for the reply! Would the included dongle be the adapter you are referring to or would it need to be something else? Perhaps the Xbox wireless usb adapter? If I can still use this sick looking controller on Xbox and still swap to PC/Steam Deck then I’m pretty much sold.

[@chronicmayhem]

​@@PaintballTacoSo there are additional adapters you can buy that allow you to use any controller on any console. There are several on Amazon and I've seen videos from gamer heaven talk about them before. The controller as is with the dongle is unlikely to work on Xbox. I can't test for sure like I said, but it's not licensed by Xbox so it probably does not have the right protocols.

[@astrea555]

No gyro?

[@chronicmayhem]

Yes it has gyro! Sorry I forget that feature often because I don't use it