Firearms Expert Reacts To Left 4 Dead Franchise Guns

[@DropsOfMars]

4:29 in classic Left 4 Dead fashion, you hop on the minigun, rev up, and immediately Louis runs in the line of fire.

[@TheZombifiedGuy]

"Pills here!" *slain by drug addiction*

[@PuddleStew]

9:21 as well

[@SpaceMissile]

@@TheZombifiedGuy _grabbin' peels_

[@theantagonist801]

Common Louis W

[@lunawenko9324]

Every. Single. Time!!!!

[@CoaLMaN122PL]

The MP5 in L4D2 was originally only in the german version, as a compensation for not being able to have any sort of real gore in the game valve added some Counter Strike Source weapons into the game, but in the last stand update for left 4 dead 2 these weapons were officially added to all versions of the game

[@duyphan4617]

Also, German version of the game also brought back gore.

[@thepatterpatrol26]

​@@duyphan4617 no it didn't, the German one had no gore

[@Eyeling]

Us Australians lost the gore, but we also didn't get the CSS guns until the Last Stand. So we really got the short end of the stick.

[@therm0alfred448]

​@@thepatterpatrol26 Recent TLS update did brought it back the gore for German version

[@txt5220]

​@@Eyeling You Aussies really have the worse VG ratings board

[@ironiso411]

The little details about M60 in L4D2 is that the survivors actually remarks that it is quite heavy whenever they picked one up

[@Sheridan2LT]

I mean, it LOOKS heavy.... You could easily find that.

[@jaysnow4074]

I didn't know this gun was in the game until just now, must be PC exclusive?

[@Slaking_]

@@jaysnow4074 no, it's just quite rare to find. It's a chance spawn like chainsaws and laser sights

[@thonking7193]

@@jaysnow4074 it's a rare weapon, meant to be the most powerful one in the game so it only shows up once or twice per campaign

[@DeliveryMcGee]

@@thonking7193 At one point they had rotating special game modes. One was all M60s with unlimited ammo. It was ... exactly as fun as you'd think. :D As for Jonathan's comment, I'm actually rather glad they didn't do the Rambo thing and kept the belt in its bag where it belongs. The ammo is shipped in a bag that clips on the side of the gun and keeps it from getting all covered in mud and stuff and jamming the gun! Don't take it out of that!

[@shropshirec]

For the mismatched pistols in L4D2, Valve was going to actually randomize the pistol models between levels so you'd have a variety of pistols. They couldn't implement it due to it eating into the Xbox 360 and PS3 console's limited memory, so they left it on the cutting room floor. The Pistols that were supposed to be randomized were a SIG, a Glock, a Colt, and a Ruger pistol, respectively. If you install the "Overhauling the Originals" mod on the Workshop, it's pistols are randomized in the way Valve intended them to be.

[@tPlayerioT]

community patch could officialize it tho, like they did to last stand

[@zelpyzelp]

@@tPlayerioT They had the opportunity to do so, but RNG gun models is something best left to mods given it *does* eat into memory for something cosmetic (there's plenty of mods that restore the pistols though so it's no big deal)

[@tPlayerioT]

@@zelpyzelp yeah, the game is really broken so if they manage to make it a official it probably will break the game even more. At this point a new game is easier than writing in the spaghetti code

[@michaelkennpeduhan9635]

*furiuosly searches workshop* hats off to you fellow user

[@zelpyzelp]

@@michaelkennpeduhan9635 Oh for reference, mods that use the cut RNG pistols tend to have "Overhauling The Originals" or "OTO" in the title (as that mod was the one that originally restored the models)

[@hody.8381]

Fun fact about the Scar, it was actually originally fully automatic during development! However, it proved too hard to balance correctly without making the M16 obsolete. So they just made it burst fire with a larger magazine.

[@Sheridan2LT]

Kinda wish they'd removed the M16 then to compensate... The current M16 feels a little weak 😅😭

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

It's so dumb. They should have swapped the stats and behavior for both weapons.

[@spoonybard64]

@@Sheridan2LT The M16 is a savior on realism mode where headshots are more important, thanks to its ROF and accuracy compared to the other rifles. The rifles are all decently balanced because of that I think, minus the SCAR's ridiculously long reload time.

[@WowSuchGaming2009]

Should have made it fully automatic it wouldn’t have been hard to balance

[@DrewFr33m4nn]

@@Sheridan2LTthe m16 is god tier what are you on about.

[@ChoomOfDoom]

It’s actually surprising to see how much L4D got right with their guns. Honestly if John didn’t point out the mix between the heat shield and suppressor on the Mac 10 I’d never notice

[@Sheridan2LT]

Now I can't unsee it. I mean, sure on the one hand you can't really grip a bare MAC-10 suppressor right after unloading, on the other the character never does.

[@LightsJusticeZ]

I never knew those were even zipties. I always though they were barbed wire someone wrapped around it to make the gun more badass or something lol

[@Matt-td8xw]

Makes sense to me, it's technicly a CS:Source mod afterall.

[@pootis_the_mans8007]

@@LightsJusticeZ its to put the flashlight on the gun if you looks at the model,and that the reaso why you flashlight move every time you shoot something ro reload

[@contra7631]

​@@Matt-td8xwitsnt

[@scarymeunster9095]

This guy actually has phenomenal game design insight. He understands and embraces suspension of disbelief, and thinks things through on a game design level. Must be his engineering knowledge from curating all those different systems and mechanisms. I hope we can have an ER doctor or SFX artist react to Special Infected. I’d love to see what they have to say on the grotesquely exaggerated yet partially grounded concepts in their design.

[@samholdsworth420]

His name is Jonathan Ferguson!

[@dannyboy_m3821]

​@@samholdsworth420And he is, dare I say, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armoury Museum in the UK

[@robertcowley-yamamoto4880]

He's also a gamer and generally a big nerd. What a wonderful man!

[@marcellosilva9286]

@@dannyboy_m3821 Which, to my knowledge, houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history!

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

We do have someone who I recall was in the field of biology that already did that. Name is Roanoke Gaming.

[@RangerOfTheOrder]

It makes me feel better about myself knowing that Jonathan also sometimes struggles with the Mini-14 mags

[@Sheridan2LT]

God, I'd never wish a Mini-14 over like any other 22 rifle or an M14 on anyone 😅

[@DJ-iu5bb]

yeah I always struggle with this its actually very hard to reload

[@JohnHumanname]

Just takes practice is all.

[@nickporter9264]

It’s a lot easier with twenty round magazines.

[@TamiyaGuy123]

I've gotta say, I think the videos where Jonathan has some experience of the games that are being analysed are among the best by far. There's something incredibly entertaining about seeing him simultaneously gun-nerd and videogame-nerd it up with these older games. Brilliant series!

[@Rowcan]

It feels weird seeing you in the wild. But you are correct, Jonathan is a perfect mix of nerd for this kind of thing.

[@Vanq17]

That call-out at the end was so lovely and endearing!

[@stephenlawrence554]

Johnathan is a national treasure

[@tomisabum]

You know its love when they'll always shoot the jockey off you despite having run ahead.

[@Torque_Mk1]

Never ask a woman her age, a man, his salary, and Mrs Ferguson why there are 3 bodies and a Tank outside the safe house.

[@jonathanferguson1211]

I've just read her this comment - she approves :D

[@Wishuponapancake]

@@jonathanferguson1211 hey Jon! Have you ever given the game Receiver a try? It's an insanely cool game that models every moving part inside the gun, and you have to manipulate every part of the gun manually. (also the second was is even more crazy with the realism!)

[@Kitteh.B]

@@jonathanferguson1211 I adore that you read the comments, read choice comments to your partner, and play games with your partner! Never stop being awesome Jonathan! :D

[@mercenarygundam1487]

@@Kitteh.B Ah right 21:51

[@Mystic-Midnight]

Is that not the way to play l4d2 with close friends? Back in high school as soon as that final escape was in view it was a free for all to see who escaped.

[@nautica3241]

Jonathan, the MP5 was only realeased for the German version of the game, since it released without any gore there (because of local laws) Valve gave the players a few extra weapons as compensation and it was one of them. Recently they added all the extra weapons from the German version for everybody

[@duyphan4617]

And also brought back gore for the German version of the game/

[@Immolator772]

The weapons are from CSS.

[@TheRhetoricGamer]

Ah yes, the AI jumping right in front of your line of fire while you use the minigun. Classic Left 4 Dead.

[@palecaptainwolfkayls8499]

I forget, but are they actually programmed to do that? Somehow I remember that being a thing to add to cinematic value…

[@TheRhetoricGamer]

@@palecaptainwolfkayls8499 Nah, that's not something the Director did. L4D just had infamously bad AI.

[@TheRhetoricGamer]

​@@palecaptainwolfkayls8499 The AI would immobilize you with a medkit while making a run for the rescue vehicle. I died three times on "no game over" runs this way. Thankfully, they later patched this.

[@palecaptainwolfkayls8499]

@@TheRhetoricGamer …I completely missed that you weren’t referring to the zombies. Ah.

[@glennzarate312]

They literally "jump the gun"

[@mrdntgetshot2759]

I love that John is also a L4D connoisseur. This man is a treasure

[@Autonate_42]

My only complaint about this is that he didn't go through the combat shotgun, yes its a spas-12 but it still would be cool to see his takes on it in L4D2.

[@Sheridan2LT]

Fun fact: all the shotguns in L4D1 had correct reload animations for full and empty, and you could interrupt it by left clicking then continue the reload after chambering a round. But other than that, it's unremarkable, I guess you could argue firing a SPAS-12 with the stock folded was a huge self-handicap for a shotgun.

[@Autonate_42]

@@Sheridan2LT the most likely reason why games have the stock ontop is because that's its signature look, people look at that and know what it is.

[@mr.kittysavestheworld695]

@@Autonate_42 ​ It does look cooler, in my opinion. With the stock down, it looks much more like any other typical shotgun, and the distinctive appearance is basically the only reason the SPAS is popular in fiction in the first place.

[@Autonate_42]

@@mr.kittysavestheworld695 That and also in most games, L4D2 included is the fact that is a powerful semi-auto weapon, not to mention it sounds powerful in most titles.

[@atk1152]

same with the Dual Pistol where you can able empty clip animation but it's only able to do once since you need to pick up a secondary pistol to trigger it

[@lukethornton9066]

I think Into The Radius would be a good game for an episode. The gun cleaning and maintenance along with the jamming, re-useing magazines and conservative ammo all in VR would give Jonathan alot to talk about along with the guns themselves.

[@Pattamatt1998]

I was literally just about to comment this. It's a brilliant (and frightening) game, and the overall weapon details have impressed me. Lots of fun Soviet oddball options too.

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

Into the Radius would be so incredible. Especially since the bullet physics, like STALKER, are actually realistic

[@palecaptainwolfkayls8499]

Tbf I doubt that’d be a good game for this series. Mostly because it’d definitely be better letting him play the mechanics first, even more, a live commentary, as opposed to just showing them.

[@timetuner]

There was a game called BLACK on the PS2 and original xbox that'd be worth checking out. Its main claim to fame is the Extremely satisfying sound design. The models are pretty of-their-time but they cared enough to add animations for switching fire modes and fidgeting with the weapons

[@Sheridan2LT]

Nowadays if you don't have animations for every firemode switch it's below standard 😂

[@ScribbleVEVO]

Oh yes! Would love to see him react to the cursed un-bullpup Walther WA-2000.

[@timetuner]

@@Sheridan2LT True but this is about modern levels of weapon fondling before CoD4 happened. The devs put a lot of focus on making everything sound and feel Excessively meaty.

[@causetheplumstasteyum7848]

Not just the sound design the graphics for the ps2 were also pushing it pretty much to its full capabilities , visually that's one of the best games you will find on the ps2 , it was brilliant

[@404-ThisUsernameIsAlreadyTaken]

I have fond memories of Black, all the different guns were great fun to use and the sound design was very nice, I don't remember how accurate the models were to their real life counterparts but I did think they were very nice looking at the time.

[@HerrTex]

in lore yeah bill is a vet but francis is a biker who got into several shootouts, zoey was in training to become a police officer and louis went to the firing range very often

[@Sheridan2LT]

"The guys USED TO laugh when I hit the rifle range at lunch! Not so funny now, is it??"

[@Gatorade69]

I didn't know that, at least with Zoey and Louis. I always liked the cast of L4D1. Any reasons why the cast of L4D2 know how to shoot ?

[@JonMartinYXD]

Francis was just a day (I think) away from having to start a prison sentence when the outbreak started.

[@JonMartinYXD]

@@Gatorade69 Well, Ellis strikes me as the kind of guy who has been shooting since he could walk. Just think about all the misadventures his buddy Keith has had.

[@Gatorade69]

@@JonMartinYXD Yeah I can see that, and maybe even Nick. But Coach doesn't strike me as a firearms type of guy.

[@petercocchiara659]

This is Jonathan Ferguson, the only reason why the lights stay on here at gamespot

[@Mylifeintechnicolor]

The glock is modeled after the glock 17. They reused alot of the models from L4D2 in CSGO. That's because Turtle Rock Studio was tasked to make a console version of CSS using the Source version from L4D2 because it was already on the consoles. The console version was then morphed into the CSGO we have today. The AK is still the same model in CSGO but has another texture, same for the Scar (it did get a scope)

[@Sheridan2LT]

I kinda dislike the SCAR-L being turned into a semi auto, tho I almost also respect an assault rifle getting a scope.

[@XanderNiles]

Hidden Path was also behind the initial release of CSGO and they in fact reused a lot of stuff from Left 4 Dead (map designs, weapons, guns, some visual aspects, you name it).

[@stuglife5514]

The scar is not the same…the SCAR from the CSGO beta was a SCAR H, and the current scar in CS is a SCAR-21, where the SCAR in L4D is a SCAR L. All 3 are different rifles. Not even remotely the “same models”

[@stuglife5514]

@@Sheridan2LT It’s not a scar L in CS. It’s a SCAR-21. It’s a 7.62x51 markmen rifle with a longer barrel. The SCAR in L4D is a SCAR L, which is a 5.56x45mm assault rifle. Different barrel assembly, different dimensions, different cartridges

[@chillsurface4499]

I never expected to see Jonathan break down the Left 4 Dead series, this was the major highlight of my entire childhood!! Edit: The MP5, including the AWP, Scout and SG552, was finally added from the Last Stand update. (was it released in 2020? Or 2021?) Back then, they can be only spawned through a console command yet they produce no damage. Also, the models were probably from Counter-Strike: Source, including the sounds and animations.

[@timixl00]

Yeah i played so much of this game with my friend when we both lived in the same city

[@SaltDoesArt]

So the reason they're in the game but weren't normally attainable is because they only spawned for German copies of the game until Last Stand. Valve had to remove all of the gore options from the German release, and as a sort of sorry/compensation, they ported some CS:S guns over for them.

[@duyphan4617]

@@SaltDoesArt Also, German L4D had its gore back. So win win i suppose

[@Gaz918]

TLS was released in 2020.

[@opossom1968]

Back 4 Blood is the next game in the series. Been playing it sense release. Great game play.

[@Rossen42]

I really want to see Jonathan break down the guns from The Order 1886

[@adamgill9730]

If he doesn't do it, don't be so surprised

[@PonkeyPoe]

Why do you want to give poor Jonathan an aneurysm? 😅

[@zXPeterz14]

Would be cool, especially seen as he seems to like the victorian era firearms in the museum

[@frozenslade7447]

Absolutely

[@MasochistNinja]

I'd watch that

[@andersonandrighi4539]

I think the SCAR was burst fire for both reasons, first gameplay because the Scar was the alternative for the full auto M16 and second because back when this game was developed the Scar was not commercially avaible. We were aware of the update gun program of the United States Army and its competitors yet the Scar was not certified yet when the game was being developed. Correct me if I am wrong.

[@DamienDarkside]

Only other game I ever saw it in until then was MW2.

[@tavi9598]

I'm not 100% sure. I do know that the first game I ever saw the SCAR in was Battlefield 2 and it was being hyped up big time back then. MW2 was next in line, and then L4D2.

[@IAmOnFyre]

I'd love to see an episode on Receiver 2. The Deagle in that game has all the little moving parts that he mentioned in this video

[@icywhatyoudidthere]

Yes please!

[@BoomSlang001]

That was an informative and fantastic trip down memory lane! I miss this franchise and its versus mode so much. B4B lacked that and died early as a result.

[@LochlanYT]

3:52 Fun fact about that: Every survivor knows how to shoot a gun except for Rochelle. Bill is the only obvious one Zoey was taught by her dad who was a police officer Louis hit the rifle range on his lunch breaks Francis is shown to at least know the basics in the comic Coach states he knows how to shoot a gun. Nick is a shady con man who has a line: “From the looks of things I’m only one who knows how to fire a weapon.” Ellis is a redneck who has multiple lines about knowing how to shoot a gun Rochelle is the only one who states this is the first time she is using a gun.

[@Boschitter]

This actually makes sense now that I think about it.

[@pancakes8816]

Coach is from the south, I'd be shocked if he DIDNT know how to shoot a gun honestly

[@austinhuber3131]

Lol Francis can shoot a gun.

[@ThomasThePanzerTank]

It's funny you mentioned the SCAR's reciprocating charging handle. I know a few guys that were stationed overseas that were using SCARs around 2010-2011, and that was their biggest complaint in theatre. According to them, most guys hate the SCAR and were much happier switching back to the SOPMODs that were available at the time. It's weird how so many weapons in video games were hyped up (XM8, SCAR, ACR) as hard hitting contract winning weapons only to be cycled out after a few years of testing or in theatre use.

[@JounLord1]

From what I heard thats why the SCAR-L contract with the US military was canceled. It didn't do anything the various M4 and similar type guns did better and did some things worse. But apparently while there was complaints about the SCAR-L plenty of US soldiers love the SCAR-H, the 7.62 battle rifle version. Or at least that whats I've heard/read.

[@Sheridan2LT]

I can definitely see it being a problem, also considering how bulky and large framed it is for what it does... Was made as an "ideal military rifle" yet it's barely practical as anything other than a DMR 😅

[@joecheez]

I wonder where you might have heard that =P kzbin.info/www/bejne/poaboaWmbb-SrMk

[@walale12]

The reason he can't remember the MP5 being in L4D2 is because initially, it was pretty much exclusive to the German version of the game, which had some guns from Counter-Strike Source in as a way of making up for the fact that it was censored. You could access them with a console command, but otherwise they weren't really accessible until the Last Stand patch in September 2020 along with the AWP, Scout, SG552, and combat knife.

[@duyphan4617]

YEs. Also, German version of the game also had its gore back.

[@PhoenixOfArcadia]

Well they must have been present in all editions and just locked out until then, because I distinctly remember during like the Beta or shortly post release seeing and using an AWP in L4D2 on a US Xbox 360 copy and the spawn system likely put that in by mistake.

[@atk1152]

you still able to get it through console before the TLS and it using a different animation (pax animation )i remember also i think there a glitch that make CSS weapon don't do any damage to infected

[@walale12]

@@PhoenixOfArcadia Were you playing multiplayer? Apparently if you were playing with a German then you would have access to the German weapons too.

[@CturiX.IREALLY]

Correct! The minigun, and most guns with such a firerate in source games, had a looping audio clip, just like the airboat gun from HL2. Although now rather primitive, you'll still find similar approaches in audio design in other games but are much harder to tell. Far Cry 6 and Escape From Tarkov, for example.

[@Flashy675]

So glad left 4 dead is making another comeback. Maybe valve will take notice and give us a 3rd one

[@theblackbaron4119]

With turtle rock bombing with back 4 blood so badly. Valve isn't going to risk it themselves to make a zombie horde shooter that possibly won't live up to L4D/2

[@ethantaillefer-meyn6535]

They can’t count to 3

[@1p0z83]

@@ethantaillefer-meyn6535 They were about to if that source 2 engine didn't fail.

[@rockero1313]

well... they did, it's called "Back 4 Blood" remember that Valve doesn't believe in the number 3 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Flashy675]

@@opossom1968 B4B was developed by turtle rock studios. Which left valve like 12 years ago to do its own thing.

[@G.A.N.]

"It's deagle time" is such a meme material right here at 14:57

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

12:26 That's because about 5 years *after L4D2 got released* , Valve has included the MP5 as an update!

[@ReiAkaris]

0:02 His expression was literally just c: I love him. He is precious, we must protect him at all costs.

[@adenkyramud5005]

Jonathan breaking down the guns of left 4 dead on my birthday? Perfect 🎉

[@daegiovanni5864]

HBD, buddy!

[@yoinkysploinky1315]

When Jonathan said "It's deagle time" and then deagle'd all over the audience i literally died.

[@NiiRubra]

rip bro

[@amadeusagripino6862]

Surely this is a weapon of all times

[@planescaped]

He broke new ground.

[@OhNoTheFace]

Imagine still doing this "joke"

[@written_and_recited]

​@@OhNoTheFacethat reminds me of the scene in Joker where Joker said "it's time for jokin' ahahahaha!" And then he joked all over everyone

[@El_Rey_247]

Really enjoyed the brief lesson about the M16A2 markings. That's exactly the kind of niche info that I love hearing on this series

[@demontekdigital1704]

I think you forgot about the Spas shotgun in L4D2. Hands down one of the best guns in the game. That thing hit like a hammer, but it had limited ammo capacity so you had to reload almost opportunistically otherwise you'd get mobbed, and possibly taken out by one of the specials. Awesome video none the less. I love watching things like this because it's learning how accurately they got things, and weren't just fantasy make-believe weapons, lol.

[@hellhounds04]

2:04 I think he might be onto something about the 15 round capcity for the 1911s now that I think about it... Left 4 Dead was originally built off the foundations for Counter Strike, originally even called "Terror Strike" and the Counter Strike's Dual Elite ARE Berettas. This technically makes the L4D pistols are a reskin of the CS's Dual Elites!

[@dcflake5645]

'Shout out to my wife' - and a thousand nerds hearts were broken...

[@PavelKapusta1337]

it should've been me not her!

[@rileychan666]

I'm just saying that it would be great to have Jonathan look at the weapons in the Cursed Halo mod for Halo CE. It has some very strange and very cursed weapons that give a good laugh.

[@LoquendoversoIT]

great video as always, but i'd like to add an explanation for the "MP5's Mandela effect": The MP5, AWP, Scout, Krieg and knife used to be exclusive weapons for the german release of the game, but in the Last Stand update that came out a few years ago they were made available worldwide.

[@jefferymosdell2490]

The quick drive-by comment on his wife's playstyle at the end was awesome. I'm hoping we don't run out of Jonathan and his clever comments any time soon.

[@happyhatebot]

It's so relatable, too - we all have that person we used to play with that did it! Unless... you WERE that person. Bit ballsy to call out the missus, though! S'how you get to spend a night on the couch!

[@grievous922]

For a "punchy" minigun/mounted gun I would look no further than Transformers: War For Cybertron/Fall Of Cybertron's Ion Displacer. The sound and graphic design in that game are (in my opinion) quite incredible and very difficult to find elsewhere. It would also be very interesting to get takes on otherworldly weaponry.

[@kennethjoseph6362]

the MP5 was added in after the latest update, when they gave us "The Last Stand" campaign, along with a bunch of new melee weapons, and new achievements. great vid!

[@jdflasky1969]

12:01 It's not just you, the Glock in game essentially has a full-sized barrel and slide but a subcompact sized grip, but it also has no frame rail like the subcompact Glocks and early generation Glocks do, making a weird variation that isn't actually available stock from Glock (though I am aware of some people in real life cutting down their Glock 17/19 frames to make a pistol with essentially the same proportions that can take Glock 26 mags).

[@Sheridan2LT]

Probably made that way bcuz it looks kewl, and the Glock 17 looks dated and bulky with its full size.. It's a pretty big gun, I guess??

[@RafelJaggai]

It warmed my heart when he started the video saying 'This is tremendously nostalgic for him' as it is for everyone whos played l4d!

[@sski]

Mini-14 magazine loading is as 'rock 'n' lock' a habit as loading an AK.

[@taguwura]

always an absolute delight to hear jonathan talk about guns and games, especially those he's played. not necessarily a gun-savvy myself, but i love hearing jonathan talk about details i probably never would have noticed otherwise and in such a courteous manner.

[@Memessssss]

The last stand update was a blessing to L4D2 it added so much stuff and made the game more replayable overall.

[@arlynanderson4801]

Oh boy, i don't believe you (mr. Dave Jewitt) and Mr. Jonathan Fergusson did Left 4 Dead franchise guns, which i kinda requested in a comments... i apologize if i typo your names. I didn't know if you seen my comment to cover L4D franchise or you just feel like it, but in anyway... thank you for this and glad to see Mr. Jonathan Fergusson had a lot of nostalgic memories to tell in this video while commenting on the firearms, it's really cool and awesome. Well done The Franchi Spas-12, Remington 870 Marine, Remington 870 Police, H&K G3SG/1 hybrid with H&K MSG90A1, M79, AWM, Styer Scout, and Sig SG552 got left out. Maybe later for part 2 (?) But who knows, i'm already satisfied that you did this. A note for why Mr. Jonathan Fergusson couldn't recall ever use MP5 in L4D2 back in the day is because at that time, the MP5 along with AWM, Scout, and SG552 are only available for the Australia/Germany version of L4D2 (the "censored" regional versions) and for PC, you have to use Console Command to use them... until the Last Stand update came along and added the 4 region locked weapons back into the regular roster of firearms you can find in the map.

[@michaelanderson6394]

Still here hoping for a Valkyria Chronicles video somewhere down the line. Looking through the weapons and how their appearances change with upgrades. The underbarrel grenade launchers and flamethrowers would be interesting, and I’d love to see Jonathan break down the lances. It would be fantastic.

[@gunnargunnarsson5963]

If I recall, the later versions of the Lenfield rifles from the 4th game somewhat resembled the Mk14 EMR, which wouldn’t be a thing in our world until 2008, I’d love to see a VC game taking place in the 50s or the 60s, I think that’d be pretty cool. But it’ll feel out of place if they don’t do it right, it’s like when you compare the 4th Indiana Jones movie to the previous movies. Then again, they could always make a prequel that takes place back in EW1, since any information that we have about that war is in the encyclopedia

[@kanrakucheese]

@@gunnargunnarsson5963 A Korean War analog sequel wouldn't be too alien to a WW2 product, though I'd rather they do something with the Fhirald rebellion they've teased.

[@Vexruna]

This is my favorite episode by far because it's an expert and a fan speaking in unison. The added experience radiates through and it feels so much more insightful.

[@harrymorris2361]

Since he’s done mod Weapons for Fallout, I’d love to see you guys cover the modded weapons for Left 4 Dead, would be cool, considering there’s a massive fan patch that replaces and rebalances all the guns. Like turns the Sig 556 into a MG36, or makes the MP5 an MP5k and is a secondary weapon

[@rdrrr]

Love the sound design in this game, it's part of what makes it so good. The firearm sounds are all on point - the M16 and Benelli M4 sound particularly menacing.

[@kitsune_jones]

"Does anyone deliberately choose to make their Desert Eagle .357 or .44 when it can be .50? I doubt it." Amen, Mr. Ferguson.

[@mrnobody6447]

The only reason may be cheaper to feed it, then again if you can afford a deagle likely you can ammo.

[@viclange3826]

@@mrnobody6447 I don't think game developers are worried about the cost of the ammo in their guns unless it's something like Fallout with an actual economy

[@Ndrew556]

Battlefield 4:

[@NostalgiaVivec]

only people im aware of IRL who have deagles in .357 or .44 are people who also have it in .50AE

[@kennedyshotfirst2534]

The desert eagle in gta 4 is a .357

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

I remember years and years ago spawning CS:S guns via the console. Didn't actually realize you don't obtain them normally until the Last Stand update.

[@TheFireWarrior727]

You should have him react to some of the community workshop mods for this game! I've seen some pretty cool ones in there, and it would be awesome to see him break them down.

[@kyles9937]

I know! I was gonna say, "Someone should tell Jonathan to play L4D2 again and get some good MP5 mods, ones with the H&K slap. I never liked the vanilla MP5, but with the mods with better sounds and animations, it's great.👍

[@DrSabot-A]

The dozens of Modern Warfare and Resident Evil Remake weapon mods are a godsent, every day i just cycle between combinations

[@kyles9937]

@@DrSabot-A I know! I have a lot of those and some other stuff too. A bit of a mish-mash of mods depending on what I'm in the mood for. Lt. Rocky though, he's got some sweet mods. My main ones for the SG 552 are the Colt model something Commando inspired by Black Hawk Down and the tricked out AK-105. There's some cool Tarkov mods too by a guy who calls himself The LAW, I like the M4, AKM, and MP5SD. I'm not even gonna go into all the different mods I like because there are so many.

[@YouCaughtCzars]

I'd love to see Red Orchestra 2 sometime. It was the first game where adjusting the elevation on guns sites changed on the model I played, as well as being the only series I've come across where machine guns have barrel swapping mechanics.

[@anthonyvargas7298]

Mafia 3 has some really good gameplay and would love to see Jonathan break down the weapons of the 70s

[@7411y]

Something I thought of when Jon brought up characters knowing a bit more about weapon handling than they should made me think, there should be more games where characters start off with animations of them slightly fumbling when reloading guns they haven't tried before, then progressing to proper form after a certain length of time/number of reloads

[@vzerby]

If you're gonna do old games please do Ghost Recon Advance Warfighter and cover the MRI Caseless and M8 guns, I want to hear John's thoughts on these ones.

[@StrangelyIronic]

Jonathan would be the perfect expert to have for a production if you were lucky enough to get him. A perfect blend of understanding limitations while also pointing out not just details from memory, but pointing out why said details would exist makes it easier to nail all the key aspects to be faithful while still being able to fit within the world of a game (as he pointed out a few times out it maybe not being exactly right, but it's fun/impactful and that's what mattered).

[@TheSundayShooter]

Converting a service issue M16A2 is a trivial matter, you merely grind off the burst sear

[@OneNationUnderGod.45]

Careful saying that on here or the Thought Police Alphabet agencies will be coming for you.

[@Chasmodius]

While a zombie is grinding off your face? :P

[@fourleaf7570]

@@OneNationUnderGod.45 Your comment is not visible, thus confirming the validity of your statement (had to check the _Newest first_ section to find it)

[@rogermcbadlad2812]

There was an M16A3 identical to the A2 made for SEALs and Seabees that was marked Safe/Semi/auto and capable of auto fire. They are very hard to find pictured because colt called detachable carry handle uppers A3 as well. I have seen a picture of one marked M16A2E3

[@under-chonker]

I would like to see Jonathan react to the guns of Warframe

[@CatsT.M]

Thank you to Jonathan and those at Gamespot who first thought of this series, I really enjoy watching him talk about guns both here and on the Royal Armouries channel. He just seems like such a nice guy who genuinely cares about his craft, he has gotten me interested in firearms which I never really thought of as interesting before this. Very much a good presenter and educator.

[@tsarfox3462]

There's actually one game with a .357 and a .50 Deagle I can think of. 007 Nightfire had two versions of the "Raptor magnum" which were semi-auto handguns. A silver and black one was .357 and a black one was .50.

[@brucedouglas9529]

Syphon Filter (specifically The Omega Strain) also had the Desert Eagle in multiple calibers. Hopefully, we will have Jonathan cover this series at some point.

[@daphats56]

Would absolutely LOVE to see Perfect Dark on here. Tons of fun original scifi designs that Jonathan would love to see im sure

[@CAP198462]

I was going to make a bad joke, but can’t be ARS’d. Sorry Mr Ferguson.

[@11Assassinator11]

The zipties are to mount a flashlight to the gun.

[@atk1152]

the MAC 10 have the bolt in closed position, it's suppose to tell the gun is the semi-automatic civilian pistol version of the MAC-10, due to the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, in the valve dev log, they said the gun was use by undeground and criminal so probably they had converted it back to be full automatic

[@jrapcdaikari]

I sometimes mod the Desert Rifle (SCAR) to be modelled as a M16A4, and my Assault Rifle (M16) into something else that's automatic

[@Gnardstingler]

Sameeeee

[@PackthatcameBack]

What about the G3? Not a super interesting gun perhaps, but it was my favorite.

[@stuglife5514]

Since John didn’t say anything about it I gotchu. The rifle featured in game is the H&K G3SG/1, it’s a G3A3 handpicked for excellent performance over the rest of the batch and converted into a marksmen rifle. It features a very light crisp trigger pull compared to other G3 varients, features a stock with a cheekweld rest, and of course the rail mount sustem for the scope. The rifle was designed for counter terrorism operations, and was used throughout the 70s by many police departments and militaries. It was eventually replaced by the PSG-1. It’s an interesting find in game, as it’s a German military service weapon which never saw service with the US, as we went with the M14, M1A, and M21 line of rifles. Possibly, it was left behind by police departments within game. In game, it’s fire rate is capped from what it could really do, and like regular infantry versions of the G3, it retained its full auto capacity since they were originally infantry G3 rifles. Honestly, a rifle from a bygone era like most in L4D

[@joaquinvelasquez6252]

The guns in the VR mod have so much detail that would Impress Jon for sure. Kinda wish you guys had that for him when I saw the thumbnail.😊

[@HIT14MAN2]

Do SAO Fatal Bullet and COD Advanced Warfare

[@GuremaManaba]

Ellis: I'm so happy to see gun... Me: Me too...I like to see how this gun logic works

[@Larweigan]

Is love to see Jonathan take a look at phantom doctrine. Cold war era tactics RPG. Might be a bit lite fidelity but I think they handle the mechanics of LMGs interestingly, that bring a recurring complaint from our expert.

[@alexsuetopka]

the m16 auto was something I always wondered about. Most games depicted it being a burst compared to a few different games that are auto. I remember in the Black Ops 1 campaign it was automatic then it was only a burst in the multiplayer.

[@Sheridan2LT]

So weird... Why not just use an M16A1 then?? 😅

[@fenrirsrage4609]

I think my favorite little detail when it comes to L4D2 guns is that they have flashlights ziptied to them as improvised weapon/tactical lights/

[@the_jones528]

I remember when I was a kid, I was always playing L4D1, and my parents got me for Christmas, a Benelli M4 toy gun that shot suction cup darts, and I would always try and mimic the animations from the game with it.

[@casedistorted]

Ok if hes gonna do it for the M16 I gotta do it for this.. 9:07 he says zombies don’t take much to down them, but that’s because they’re not zombies, they’re infected. So no special powers of “need to destroy the brain” type here, and that’s why they can sprint

[@Arelated]

wasnt expecting for Jonathan to review the Firearms From L4D, Jonathan is probably the only reason why i always come back to watch

[@andreasottohansen7338]

I feel like I should be less surprised that Jonathan has spent time on the IMFDB, but it is a happy surprise

[@Snoo42]

Literally my childhood and still my favorite game today

[@GameMaster136]

The 15 rounds for the 1911s could make sense if they were modeled after the Para-Ordnance 1911s. Those are double stacked with the 14.45s but clearly the 1911s in L4D are just the regular kind that would be 7+1.

[@InFamoo]

15:35 DayZ choose to use .357 probably for balancing reasons. Would be nice to see him reacting to DayZ weapons

[@thecellhawk]

I picked up a few things from the video, two of them being: 1. The M16 is not automatic, its burst fire is just so fast (when you click the heck out of that left mouse button) that it looks automatic. But you cannot hold down the trigger, nor fire a single shot. 2. The L4D2 dual pistols... From what I remember, but might be wrong, the pistols are the same, always, when lying around. The second one only appears different when you pick it up.

[@AnonymousSWAT]

I could be wrong but it looks like the zip-ties on the suppressed mac10 are for the flashlight. Also forgot the Browning .50 at the plantation house!

[@pebblepot8234]

Really enjoy these videos. Would love to see Jonathan break down the weapons from the Division 2

[@commanderpauline2763]

in a recent update they added the MP5, SSG, AWP (CS:GO), and the Scout (CS Source), a shovel and a pitch fork melee also Zoey was taught how to use fire arms by her dad who was a cop, Francis was in a biker gang, and Louis spent his time at a firing range

[@Banneoliberalism]

This guy is epitome of safety practice. He never point a single gun into camera and never let his finger into trigger.

[@Slaking_]

About the characters handling guns in accurate ways, throughout the games some characters imply that they're familiar with firearms. Ellis states that he's been around guns his whole life and actually owned the hunting rifle you can find ingame, Louis states that he visited the firing range often after work, Bill is obvious because he's a veteran, and I believe Coach also implies it at some point.

[@dysterotl]

love the videos, love this guy. maybe show a model of the in game gun too so we can easily see what he’s referring too/ give him a better look at the gun

[@captainobvious1961]

I love how the original l4d gets so much publicity lately, one of my all time favourite games ❤

[@wyattderp2835]

I think it would be cool to see Jonathan look over the sentry turrets of COD over the years

[@vitornardyluz9440]

i just love his little cute smirk on the start of the music

[@trevorstockwell8290]

Bulletstorm, borderlands, hunting bigfoot, medal of honor, duke nukem, dying light, dead island, kane and lynch, red dead redemption and maybe starship troopers...just some ideas. Keep up the great work john

[@npz1838]

The fact Jonathan knows about the Valve number 3 curse warms my heart ❤️

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

That's a very cool looking Mini-14

[@matthewvorwald7169]

So many nostalgia watching this and thinking back to using all the guns in Left 4 Dead. Love that he also had fun going down memory lane with this game. I kinda want to see him and his wife play Left 4 Dead after he mentioned that his wife would always go to objective ahead of everyone else 😂.