Gaming Laptop Or Gaming Desktop?! 🤔 RTX 4060 Laptop vs RTX 4060 Gaming PC!

Gaming Laptop vs Desktop! What's better, an RTX 4060 gaming laptop, or RTX 4060 Gaming PC Desktop?
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[@ashtondillard6906]

The fact that it’s only a 10 frame difference with full ray tracing is insane… the fact that you can essentially play games on the go at ultra setting is crazy. I’ve been thinking about getting a 4060 laptop so this definitely bumped my confidence in my buy.

[@lomizis]

Due to life circumstances and not enough space for a full desktop pc, i settled for a 4060 laptop for 1k bucks. Havent been disapointed yet.

[@VAMPS000]

​@@lomizisdoes it heat up ? Any problems? Which one is it ?

[@thepilotbob5624]

@@VAMPS000 depending from which company he bought from issues my be different but obviously a laptop overheats way more easily than a PC due to the small size

[@SonBokan]

@@thepilotbob5624But there are solutions for it. You can get external coolers.

[@kratos12384]

Same... Only cons are fan noise and we can only upgrade storage and Ram.. And yeah limited ports 😢

[@ProphetOfTruth_]

Laptop already comes with a display, keyboard, WiFi, and windows installed. All those have to be bought separately for a desktop therefore making the whole setup potentially hundreds of dollars more expensive. Also with a desktop you’re limited to being at a desk in a chair, with a laptop I can just sit comfortably in bed, way more enjoyable. Not to mention buying a laptop is just significantly easier and quicker than having to build your own desktop.

[@mykindofgaming7345]

I literally just said the same thing g you did. I’m glad. I’m not the only one out there who feels the same way. Only way I would do desk top is if I have money to burn after having my gaming laptop.

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

@@mykindofgaming7345The main reason for a desktop imo is if you want a high performance machine, even the 4090 laptops only perform about as good as the 4070ti desktop but cost a lot of $ so price to performance at the high end for laptops still isn't good but for lower end gpus like 4060 it's perfect.

[@11s_9]

I agree, but isn't windows free now?

[@ProphetOfTruth_]

@@11s_9 I believe it’s a free upgrade on a current device but a fresh installation on a new device still needs to be paid for

[@CoolF-jd7rr]

Not if you have a big TV. It's not that expensive and the whole experience is worth it.

[@Ofejiro.]

I bought a gaming laptop for "portability" a year ago, but It's always plugged into an external monitor 90% of the time. edit: I ended up selling my laptop and building a pc. It was a good decision, but not for my wallet 😅

[@sambentley52]

sameeeeee

[@Platinum199]

same, I’m working again so I’m able to save for a new pc and this time I’m going with a desktop. Laptops are good but man they can get loud even after a full deep clean+upgrading is too limited for my liking

[@rad7619]

😂we are same

[@anhiirr]

i got an older 4k oled HP...and at times its down right sad how much nicer the OLED is for content consumption compared to my xiomi VA 34" and LG nano 27". For portability its nice for pve/controller titles, or ARPG lan parties with the boys. Other than that i no longer work on the go so its not used remotely as much as my desktop these days. Returned a poorly executed 3070 zephlyrus for the HP, and that oled panel and nv fast sync is still a pretty good solution for the right titles Fallen order in 4k on med with oled vs 2k maxed out on the desktop and is a hard choice. But DAMN the zephyrus had some nice speakers

[@SirBlicks]

I guess your use case is just different, See when I am out of home I don’t need my laptop to go full tilt, but when Im home it’s just two cables that need to be plugged in, but its never connected into an external monitor significantly. Although I do have a desktop pc.

[@r_turner]

Desktops should be preferred for Heavy users but if you want protability , the 4060 laptops are the Best Value , Great balance of Price Performance Thermals and efficiency , anything upwards ( 4070, 4080, 4090) is more expensive but under perform., anything lower (4050 , 7600s , or 30 series) is not suitable for next gen games . also AV1 encoder is Amazing for Live Streams . My TUF F15 4060 is capable of 1080p 144fps gameplay + 1080p 8000kbps bitrate Single PC streaming, If you want to set it as Dual PC Streaming You can even go for even high quailty 4k 1440p streams.

[@BarnzTT]

Can it play starfield? At which settings?

[@castrosacasa]

I'm thinking of getting a heavy duty desktop and just keep the laptop I already have since I don't use it to play, to play on the go I'll just get a Switch!

[@LeBe_Jayant]

underrated comment

[@uruacufutsal1]

​@@BarnzTTprobably at high on 1080p in 60fps, I was able to play it on my desktop rx 6600 at high in 1080p at 60+ when I wasnt CPU bottlenecked

[@mertdundar7659]

4080 and 4090 worth the money but 4070 is garbage. 4050 is okay imo but the minimum should be 4060 since it has 8 GB VRAM.

[@SmokeySoMessy]

Love the videos, they helped me build my first PC. Watching your videos actually made me change from buying a prebuilt to building my own and I’m so happy I did

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What are your specs and what was your budget?

[@alch3mi5t.]

good job, pre-builts are for office workers, not gaming. 😉

[@MrAnimescrazy]

@@alch3mi5t. what are you talking about lol?

[@alch3mi5t.]

@@MrAnimescrazy they were going to buy a pre-built, they decided to build their PC instead. GG's on building their PC, now they can also fix their PC when they won't have an IT department to wipe their backside. Was it that confusing???

[@SmokeySoMessy]

@@MrAnimescrazy i7 14700k, Galax 4070ti, 2tb samsung 980, 32gb RAM, all together it was around $2000 i was going to buy a $2500 PC but got better specs and saved $500 just because i built it

[@Replyingg]

Thank you bro! I’m a college student that’ll probably be moving out of my parents house soon and I was stressing on which one to get, I will be getting the laptop for portability to class, dorms, etc.❤

[@floor.mp3]

the only reason i miss my laptop compared to the desktop i have now was the 15,6 inch 1440p screen. it was SO sharp like oh my god it was amazing

[@Trooper12944]

but you can get a better sharp display aren't you?

[@ninjapirate47]

Desktop, glad I could help!

[@daunted2322]

Sure let's just take my desktop on the bus lol 😅

[@wildspray0758]

​@@daunted2322taking a heating engine and sound box into a bus, OK 😅

[@daunted2322]

I was not suggesting using it on the bus, merely travelling with it. Also headphones exist :P@@wildspray0758

[@WatchYeego]

@@wildspray0758well I don’t think the gaming laptop is that LOUD to use. Yes, louder, not so much so it’s annoying though. And why would you play games on a bus on a laptop, publicly

[@wildspray0758]

@@WatchYeego nah bro, a "good" 1440p gaming laptop makes sound like a mixer grinder. we are here talking about gaming laptop and that above guy talking to take desktop to bus, so gaming on bus with laptop is also very annoying. if i have to travel 3 or 4 hours with bus a day, why can't i play games on bus?

[@pipebomber04]

After years of gaming on a laptop i finally got myself a powerful desktop paired with a 32 inch monitor and honestly its just... lonely. gaming stuck in a room hahaha😅. Frankly i miss going to coffee shops to work and play.

[@jared1650]

Just plug your laptop to an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse and boom u got a pc, wanna go to someones house and game? Just unplug your laptop from your station and go

[@ryanisright3559]

This. Especially after work

[@JoeMaranophotography]

You could definitely overclock the laptop to help bridge that gap somewhat.

[@jeevizz]

but you could also overclock your desktop to widen the gap

[@JoeMaranophotography]

@@jeevizz You could but not if you bought the laptop

[@imAgentR]

Problem with that is the bios in laptops is cheeks. And the CPU in the laptop is already stronger. It’s simply that the desktop is the better of the two in many ways still, mainly because the power limits aren’t constrained like the laptop is.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

@@imAgentR I have both although my laptop is showing its age now with a 2070

[@themadakh3229]

I have a gaming laptop and i know it will never be as good as my desktop but its so much more versatile i take it with me to work abroad etc and plays more than good enough at 1440p. Its all about lifestyle

[@danielconstantines]

laptop, 100% Apart from gaming i also work on this thing and edit stuff. With a PC i really don't want a power outage; and investing in an UPS is really not worth it since you can't afford to cheap out on these things. Having a battery clearly wins. Sure, in time it will degrade and will need to be replaced, but i'd rather deal with that problem when it occurs; if of course the laptops isn't already sold by that time.

[@divagar8908]

I agree with you

[@xisigma]

Consensus seems to be the screen and battery. Interesting.

[@rajeebdas1724]

For a 10-15 fps jump and more noise efficiency, am I ready to restrict myself to a table inside my room for gaming purposes and spend 200-300$ more too (all parts combined)?? No thank you.

[@Ch1p5s]

I have the exact problem rn, this vids really helped me thank youu!!

[@shyhrk]

I used to have gaming laptop, but I never take it anywhere and used it as if it was a PC. So after it breaks, I bought a PC and never looked back. All aspects are better except for portability, size, and the battery.

[@crazzagameplaylaughs9910]

Well desktop is better for performance but it’s not as portable so maybe you need it to be portable so that’s why you would go for the laptop if you don’t need portability then I don’t see why you would go for the laptop especially when laptops are usually way more expensive to desktops.

[@muayboran6111]

"Not as" should not be in your paragraph, it stays where it's put

[@nepali-1-2]

I think laptop is just cheaper! You only need to get a mouse and you’re done for gaming. But with pc, you need to get monitor,keyboard, mouse, controller, and more. And laptop is very accessible and I can bring it on vacations and to the beach!

[@arpadpetruszka1185]

You missed one of the important part. Watts. That's not slightly different. Laptop usage on full load is 150-165W while the pc and monitor around 400-550W. I think is also relevant to the buyer

[@xisigma]

Yeah, 300 W will make a dent in electric bill.

[@WyndStryke]

Other than portability, I think the second biggest of gaming laptops is the reduced amount of electricity. Although that's not enough to justify the price difference, even here where electricity costs so much. Maybe some sort of gaming NUC would make more sense as a middle ground, that way you can use a decent keyboard / mouse / monitor without having to duplicate existing hardware.

[@winifix]

Exactly. With pc on 24/7 laptop wins on monthly electrical bills

[@arpadpetruszka1185]

laptop max 165W while pc over 550W plus monitor speakers...

[@PortlandMan]

Laptop if you don't have a dedicated monitor and plan on plugging your desktop into your TV.

[@MitsuruHougetsu]

A Desktop tho is simply better because of its upgradability. CPU might last for years and you can simply upgrade your gpu for a newer one if required by the particular game or program etc. As a content creator i need lots of vram so I am using a 24gb gpu and this does not exist for laptops.

[@Jodor--]

I'm going to upgrade my 7 year old pc soon. Got a 1500 budget, Was going to buy a month ago, But I was told to wait. Not even considered a laptop though

[@MrSnowboarder72]

buy components during boxing day or black friday

[@MrAnimescrazy]

What specs are you looking at currently?

[@Jodor--]

This is what my friend told me to buy when I was looking about a month ago. I think it was 1550ish Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Cooler Master Hyper 212 Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX Corsair Vengeance 32 GB ddr5-5600 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card Corsair iCUE 4000X Corsair RM850x ... I already have a corsair crystal 470x case but I want something new to look at xd @@MrAnimescrazy​

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

​@@Jodor--cuz on your world a laptop Is a machine that is created by the devil himself

[@mr.getrighhttt3433]

I did notice the desktop had an i5 while the laptop was i7. I’m pretty sure that makes a huge difference in performance. If the desktop were i7, there wouldn’t be any comparison I don’t think.

[@InsidePlay2023]

the 4060 laptop is same as the desktop 4060. Check that on youtube. I'm sure he didn't OC the laptop GPU and didn't set it to perf mode, check 1:23 , it's on balanced mode and on balanced mode, it locks the GPU power at 80W(I have the same one) and on performance mode, the power goes up to 115w in most games and increases the perf by 15-20% and this will match the desktop counter part. I did many tests tho and you can also check other channels on KZbin and see that the laptop 4060 in some cases outperforms the desktop 4060 because they're the same.

[@michubern1444]

​@@InsidePlay2023a laptop version of a gpu is always slower..

[@InsidePlay2023]

you don't know shit then. it applies to all gpus but not 4060. do more research and stop being stupid. watch jarrod and many youtubers on 4060 and they will say the same thng that i said. watch my benchmark on 4060m 140w, temp is below 65c and in some cases below 60c on my legion and in some cases it outperforms the desktop. it's not claim, it's reality. i know ignorant ppl like you always go against reality and talk out of their asses without even doing a lil research so that's okay.

[@albert328]

my last gaming laptop was a 970m one, just ordered this legion slim 5 with 7840hs and 4060, im so surprised at its price and its capabilities through watching your review of this laptop. my desktop is a 7800x3d and 3080 one, im so glad to be able to get the laptop at a good price, looking forward to game when im away from home.

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

Just don't listen to pc snobs who say laptop is not for gaming

[@Viseor]

Merry Christmas and happy new year everyone

[@aaronjohnson2215]

It's not only about portability. It's also about power usage. Laptop should use much less energy with just slightly worse performance? This is always missed in vids like this.

[@imnutrak130]

Only an issue because you have the cooling freedom of PC to run higher clocks at lower efficiency. Although most likely you would be able to undervolt and simply run on balanced mode and the power management and usage would be similar.

[@coloreofficial]

The electricity bill is something you care about if you are jobless, i dont know anyone on this planet who has a job and uses a laptop to save 7 dollars per month on the electricity bill.

[@aaronjohnson2215]

@@coloreofficial it's much more than that. I've never heard someone being more ignorant to make such statements like you. Go embarrass yourself somewhere else.

[@bengalmassacer]

Every 5 years you just paid for a free upgrade with that money saved😏. Nothing beats being able to game wherever i want. Being confined to a specific section of the house to me, is a big enough thing to consider. I have both, and i honestly don't find myself on my desktop as much as my laptop just because of the quality of life it permits you to have while gaming​@coloreofficial

[@aryaveersinghkahlon9842]

U can do the same with laptops and play on balanced mode[hybrid mode]​@@imnutrak130

[@cyb221100]

With energy prices going mad, power consumption should be included in this comparison. From 1997 until 2011 I've been using desktops, and from 2007 until today I've been using laptops. I needed a laptop for portability as I was doing a lot of travelling plus university and my space was limited. Now I don't need that anymore but the world has changed so much I like having more space and I still use a laptop for gaming and a laptop for work. The gap in both price and performance is almost closed and your upgradability argument is logical but in practice you will need to replace almost everything for a big upgrade. The only reasons to build a desktop PC nowadays are for high end gaming, very low budget gaming (consoles might make more sense there) or because it looks cool. Also the noise is a problem, but headphones are much better than speakers... So not a problem!.

[@MogsterKupo]

There's also the matter of space. I personally don't mind but I know many people who simply don't want a big hunk of junk taking up so much desk/floor space, even if their laptop doesn't leave the same spot most of the time.

[@danhousden2122]

I have an o11 dynamic XL going on my desk lol it’s bloody huge

[@diablo_drew]

Yup!

[@xisigma]

I'm clumsy and knock towers down all the time.

[@spiral8003]

I’m going laptop this time. Every time I see something worth upgrading it’s the price of a mid range laptop and I’m happy playing things in 2K with 60fps. So with a ultra“ish” laptop I still have portability and power usage saving. I love just plugging it in the desktop monitor when I want to focus or just the tv when I want to chill on the couch or just bringing it when I travel which I’ve been doing a lot lately

[@smoothboye4203]

Id much rather have a laptop than a desktop. Its much more comfortable and fun to have something you can casually use

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

How those jobless no life PC snobs haven't gotten to you yet oh wait they are in thier natural habitat Reddit and Twitter(not gonna call it X)

[@m_vergil85]

i own one of those legion slim laptops and man they are amazing. never been happier with a laptop purchase. in rdr2 1440p i cant get the system to get cpu+gpu hotter than 60c. thermals on these new laptops are hella amazing

[@mobinkhorshidi6263]

Hey i want to purchase the slim 5 its this configuration int he video and it costs about 1260 dollars i am worried about cooling what do you think?

[@m_vergil85]

@@mobinkhorshidi6263 don't worry about the cooling man it performs amazingly. Btw you can always use a Coolpad to help better cool it down. All in all the performance and the thermals are superb

[@dlxaytra1087]

I got Lenovo's slightly more budget gaming laptop and yeah it's been such a good experience

[@robi6713]

Is 16gb ok or should i aim for 32legion slim?

[@dlxaytra1087]

@@robi6713 for gaming 16 and 32 don't have any difference but it'll be better to have more ram if u want to do streaming or multitasking

[@laststopformadness]

I went from a pc I built myself a Ryzen 9 3900X RTX 2070 and 32gbs of ram to a MSI Katana 15 B13V with a Intel Core i7 13620H RTX 4070 and 32gbs of ram. And I have to say I love the mobility and power I get from the gaming laptop.

[@crazzagameplaylaughs9910]

They aren’t bad machines

[@user-mp3eh1vb9w]

The MSI one, most especially cheaper ones are a menace. The build quality is so poor, I would be surprised if it lasts you 3+ months.

[@laststopformadness]

@@user-mp3eh1vb9w The build quality on this laptop is great. Plus if this laptop ever does fail I can get it fixed or replaced thanks to the warrenty I have on it.

[@smokegames1179]

@@user-mp3eh1vb9wlies i bought a gigabyte g5 kf with 4060 and stll running awesome i needed to change the thermal paste though and undervolt the cpu and gpu

[@dalehuhtala9285]

More parts crammed into a smaller space will have more issues but I just went with both...

[@Burago2k]

This is just a silly thing, of course the PC is better, the desktop is made to not sacrifice any performance and thats why everything is huge in comparison to the tiny counterparts in the laptops. The whole point of having a laptop is to be able to go anywhere with it and to be in your LAP, laptop.

[@ocloredmind4973]

The only things i prefer on desktops is the upgradability and customizability, which makes the cooling much better, and u can choose any CPU and pair it with any GPU based on your budget. With Laptops however u don't have to sit on the same chair for hours, if u had a power cut the battery is there to hook u up and if u needed that laptop somewhere else, u can just put it in a bag. if i had the money i would personally get both.

[@xisigma]

You're the first one to bring up cooling. Small fan in a laptop can't compare to liquid cooling in tower. This could effect room temperature, but laptops do use a third of power.

[@sobelowtriplefo5623]

also good to note, if u have a laptop and already have a monitor u can easily have a 2 screen set up that looks great!

[@Jjnoriega900]

If I had a bigger apartment and an actual desk, then yes desktop all the way. I would even start building again. But unfortunately my desk is my kitchen table so my woman can watch her shows while i game on my Alienware laptop

[@legendemperor9150]

laptop can be good enough but then the main problem is heating, at the start the performance might match to the desktop but after prolonged hours... laptop's performance reduces drastically whereas the desktop can sustain that performance

[@FaisalSalh-rd9qb]

Well, that's why there is something called cooling pad

[@legendemperor9150]

@@FaisalSalh-rd9qb trust me cooling pad isn't nowhere as effective as pc fans

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

I play it on silent mode over 60 fps and the hottest it got was 65 degrees which is absolutely safe for a laptop ​@legendemperor9150

[@Davorta]

If you are active person, 4060 laptop (with 80w minimum Tdp). Or if You are a forever alone type of person and never leave home, 4060 Dekstop. Your welcome.

[@nickknight1488]

Where did you get the TDP 80W from? I read elsewhere 100W is when it caps out for returns

[@Davorta]

@@nickknight1488 thats why i said minimum. 4060 performance graph peak 85% power at 80W, and 98%+ at 115W. Most laptop go for 105W+ but really for most laptop even legion/asus top model will use between 80W-105W to balance out performance-to-heat generated on their laptop

[@sobelowtriplefo5623]

i got an msi sword laptop i7 3050ti in 11/2021 when i got into a motorcycle accident and was stuck in the hospital for 6 months it was my introduction to pc gaming and let me tell you how much i can appreciate being able to enjoy this level gaming in a place where happiness does not exist. Not one problem in the 5k plus gaming hours ive put into it since i bought it, ive recently got a nice monitor for it runs flawlessly. Love this laptop to death its gotten me through so much. I plan on upgrading maybe next year and don't see any reason to go desktop. i like to take my gaming where ever life may take me.

[@mykindofgaming7345]

Same here bro. I can’t see my self being stuck to a deck just to play my games. Like I’m at a job. I like to lay on the couch. In my bed and game. But I don’t want to do console. And In my opinion they pretty powerful. Now and days. I don’t see. Why to not get this.

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

Pc snobs will crap on you both cuz both of you didn't get what they perfer to get in thier world pc is the only worthy machine for gaming not even consoles

[@ProfShikari]

Having purchased my very first gaming laptop nearly 4 years ago now, I am faced with the predicament of buying something completely new as it is starting to stop doing what I bought it to do all that time ago, it sickens me to think how much I spent on it when I could have built a much better system for less money than I spent on my laptop… however as you mentioned, there will ALWAYS be a compromise with laptop vs desktop… I bought the laptop as it was a compromise with my wife, we don’t really have the space for me to have a dedicated gaming rig… so I have made do with my 1660Ti mobile graphics card, although the processor is decent, being an i7-9750h, it allowed me to start playing and streaming at the same time, although I do only have the one screen (that’s where the Twitch mobile app comes into play lol) So my goal for 2024 is to build my own PC, I have started this already by purchasing a case, the Chillblast Fnatic Commando… it was on offer from Box at £19.99… worth every penny :D

[@toner8486]

i bought my first gaming laptop in 2020, razer blade 2070 max q 10750h and surprisingly it performs very good still at 1080p, it was my first experience going the pc gaming route but for sure next year its time to build a pc lol

[@ProfShikari]

@@toner8486 same here, first venture into PC gaming… now I want MORE lol

[@JoeMaranophotography]

@toner8486 Same specs as my laptop. I also have a desktop 4070ti system and the performance difference is huge even with a resolution bump up to 1440p on the desktop. That said the laptop is happily chugging along dealing with Alan Wake 2 and Sons of the forest albeit with a lower quality

[@toner8486]

@@JoeMaranophotography yep i would be getting a desktop 4070 or 4070ti for 2k gaming, yes def gaming laptops are fun, my razer laptop has hold up excellent friends n family get surprise its a gaming laptop since it very slick and nice looking lol

[@Platinum199]

Man that must suck having to use the twitch app I’ve never not once used it and had a bug free experience something always breaks whenever I use the mobile app

[@NeoKyoKusanagi]

You got yourself a new subacriber. I loved this video. Good job!

[@johncrompton4640]

Desktop all day I was pretty new to pc gaming and the first thing I bought before my desktop was a laptop thinking smaller and portable everything you need is built in wrong. Ended up hardly needing the portability then bought a better screen mouse keyboard speakers etc. Also there so loud get crazy hot and you get no where near the same performance.

[@uruacufutsal1]

Yeah if you dont need the portability then desktop is just better in EVERY aspect. But some people dont have a choice. But its nice to see that the gap isnt as wide as it once was in terms or performance

[@JoshxMemes]

I really enjoyed this video. It was very insightful and I love your energy and enthusiasm!

[@nathanbrown492]

8:52, that's due to the laptop screen being connected to the CPU (the iGPU inside the CPU). So when a frame is done on the GPU, it has to send it back to the CPU. Some video out ports on laptops will be connected directly to the GPU, so if you want to see what that gives, would be greatly appreciated; I would think a laptop generates a frame faster since the connection is closer (and soldered) than a CPU which has slots to deal with.

[@Origin_unkn0wn]

Some laptops have a mux switch which connects the dGPU to the display circumventing the IGPU

[@nathanbrown492]

@@Origin_unkn0wn I don't know if the laptop featured in this video has a MUX switch, or advanced Optimus which can do similar. And even if it did, you still have to select the dGPU in the settings menu, which I do not recall seeing the guy do in the video. So I have to be able to explain the latency in some way, and it being due to the iGPU being a bottleneck makes sense.

[@InsidePlay2023]

plus the 4060 laptop is same as the desktop 4060. Check that on youtube. I'm sure he didn't OC the laptop GPU and didn't set it to perf mode, check 1:23 , it's on balanced mode and on balanced mode, it locks the GPU power at 80W(I have the same one) and on performance mode, the power goes up to 115w in most games and increases the perf by 15-20% and this will match the desktop counter part. I did many tests tho and you can also check other channels on KZbin and see that the laptop 4060 in some cases outperforms the desktop 4060 because they're the same.

[@InsidePlay2023]

I have one and I am telling you that this guy on the video has no idea how to make a real test on the legion slim 5. check 1:23 , it's not even on performance mode, it's on balanced mode and balanced mode restricts the GPU power to 80w only and performance mode boosts it up to 115W-120W in most games even though it is a 140W 4060 but doesn't go up to 140W. Plus, on Lenovo ventage, you can also OC the GPU and set it to dGPU mode in which this guy tested it on Hybrid mode otherwise, the laptop 4060 is same as the desktop 4060. You can check reviews on KZbin. There are many reviews that prove that they're the same and in some cases the laptop 4060 outperforms the desktop 4060.@@nathanbrown492

[@nathanbrown492]

@@InsidePlay2023 Correct. My comment is more looking at the display latency though and making comments as to why there's a difference. Also not sure if he did this review after CASO was enabled (See JarrodsTech video from ~2 months ago)

[@AxleLotl]

Laptop components suffer from huge airflow restrictions compared to even the smallest ITX chassis' and as a result, their hardware has to be dialed down to reduce thermals which obviously will impact performance. Having said that, I believe I can make a mITX PC for far less than what an equivalent laptop would cost since desktops have so much custom flexibility.

[@muradshawar]

Just depends on how you use it . If you want portability you cant take the desktop with you .

[@AxleLotl]

@@muradshawar Portability doesn't negate my point about thermals and performance.

[@smokegames1179]

Laptop cooler and liquid metal is your friend

[@muradshawar]

@@smokegames1179 yeah a laptop cooler solved the issue and you get portability

[@ALA.TN7]

​@@AxleLotl bro I have a gaming laptop and there's no frame rate drops in like 3 hours of gameplay in a row, i think that what we should care about the most

[@vikingraider712]

Laptops use mobile components so desktop more powerful and usually cheaper but lacks portability but you can swap more things and more customizable

[@adityagadge7784]

Me watching this in a 204 dollar phone

[@Someone_in_vr]

A gaming laptop is more convenient and portable but a gaming pc has better performance

[@thezombiesplayer88]

How did you get bestbuy to sponsor you? They sponsor no one, and even LTT doesn’t get sponsored by them

[@PcCentric]

They asked nicely!

[@doganaydogan1178]

I first built a desktop with i7 14600k + fancy motherboard + 4070 ti super + 6000mhz ddr 5 ram. But it costs more than $2000 (no monitor or ther external accessories) and you can buy a 4080 laptop which gives slight better gaming performance. For me. Laptop wins. When it is old, pass it to my son.

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

Pc snobs will say no cuz in thier world even the oldest pc beats the newest laptop in performance

[@Daddy-.-]

Marcus, have you tried to run a dual pc setup or turn a budget build into a capture pc, so you can benchmark the pc's you've built? There's the capture card and use an app called voice meter for audio or ndi and you can benchmark your builds without the risk of losing frames while having to use the computer's/laptop's. This is what I've done. I'm making a video on how to use msi after burner/rivaturner with dual pc audio setup using voice meter. I know you are well capable of doing this. A small investment with a pc for 500 or less is good for a capture pc. 😅

[@PcCentric]

At some point maybe - on desktop the overhead is so small it's not a huge deal; plus it actually shows you what you will be when recording. When we move into an office it'll probably happen!

[@SadiqAuwaluSani-ds7lb]

​@@PcCentrichi

[@filippetrovic845]

I had 4090 desktop for majority of time since its release and sold it after i finished demanding games i wanted to play so i was wasting it on Valorant and TFT. Now i just bought asus tuf 15 with ryzen 5 7535hs and 4060.

[@AtariFitness]

Did you switch to a laptop?

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

​@@AtariFitnessanything wrong with that? Cuz I don't see anything wrong here

[@oscarz314]

Idk gaming laptops are only really gaming ready when plugged in and all setup. Otherwise your just using a hotter bulkier laptop usually with less battery life too...

[@wuuiiv9493]

thank you for the review. Since we are moving to a new house ouside of vienna in June and we only use it on weekends /Home Office/ Holidays and stay in the flat in vienna for work, i will be going for the Laptop to enjoy it everywere. Also in the house i can use it in the mancave and upstairs :) anyway happy to come back to PCgaming after years on consoles. Great Vid, thanks

[@xxCamillexx22]

I just want to be able to play the sims with the mods but be able to work from home too. Would a laptop suffice

[@driven01]

I think we are very close to the point that we will see parity in the laptop & desktop space with regards to performance. Desktops may retain an edge on upgradability. We are also very close to a full move to ARM-type chips across the board which may further equalize things.

[@John.Christopher]

No,no. Only at this wattage and tier. The 4070 and 4080 are quite different

[@pacspecific]

Hey there PC Centric, I have tech problem that keeps persisting and I'm not able to get a fix for it: CPU Fan is not recognised in ASUS BIOS (Using TUF Z790-PLUS), neither Commander Core XT. It won't boot past POST screen even if I tapped on ignore warning. Same thing happens over and over again and I need it to recognise it somehow because I don't have splitter cable and I only want to use iCUE to manage my airflow and RGB

[@nunyabizz50]

you may have just conned me into buying a gaming laptop

[@Sethsimracing]

Great vid buddy, I think I'ma go for the laptop. Really think I'ma need the portability, and it looks pretty good.

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

Tell that to those pc snobs who don't even leave thier mom's basement and think are smart cuz of getting a pc instead of a laptop

[@Sethsimracing]

@@alengheyvandiyan9430 I've met some of those people online. 😂

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

@@Sethsimracing then you know them well😂😂😂

[@muayboran6111]

I travel around the city a lot, sleeping at 3 conpletely different locations, my office, my house and my girlfriend's house. It's a no brainer for me, i can work while traveling and play while travelling

[@LordParaDax]

Good comparison

[@bosschungles]

I've sworn by building PC's for almost 10 years but I've finally settled with a 12th gen i5 12C16T 16gb DDR5 4060 laptop for £600 and I have to say with how far power efficiency has come gaming laptops are WAYY better than they used to be. I wanted to build an ITX PC that I could easily pop into a suitcase for travel and pick up with one hand almost. for the same level of power in a desktop with a DDR5 motherboard it was gonna cost me £900 and that's without a keyboard, monitor and WiFi card.....Too expensive and I never upgrade after building anyway so my laptop is best PC i've ever owned

[@Daddy-.-]

Daddy will always pick the desktop, when I'm out and about Im enjoying life. Laptops are portable and just as powerful now, but they're priced too high, parts are not upgradeable suck as cpu/gpu and in some cases storage/ram can't be upgraded as well. Maybe buying them used is a better choice for laptops vs new. 3 years or so the laptop will not not hold its weightike the desktop could I get it, not everyone has the space for a tower, keyboard, mouse, monitor... Etc. A true gamer makes space 😅😂

[@pipebomber04]

Space in a warship bunk bed?

[@cryptogaming9935]

The biggest problem for laptop are the thermals. If your GPU constantly gets throttled because of thermals its problematic

[@kehindeadesuyi6741]

What about Comparing a Framework 16 laptop with a Desktop PC

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

Laptops are cheaper for the 4060 and below gpu tbh and has a similar performance to the desktop and comes with more features; built in speakers, webcam, keyboard etc.

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

Tell that to those jobless Pc snobs who haven't seen grass in thier entire life

[@daltonwhitt7852]

Bought my first gaming laptop last week. Got the Legion Pro 7i with the 4090, 32gb RAM, and 2TB SSD for an astounding price of $2,450.49+tax!

[@mark82765]

4090 and 2450😮Its very cheap

[@MrChadLedford]

It's just really hard to be affordability of a laptop, considering a 4060 desktop doesn't add very much performance. When you look at the higher tier GPUs that's a different conversation.

[@itsdeonlol]

Desktop for me! If I was gonna go portable, I would go with a Handheld PC!

[@Origin_unkn0wn]

Which would under perform to the cost equal gaming laptop 🫠

[@johnscotlinksl]

IMO - a nice gaming desktop, a ultrabook of your choice (Asus zenbook is a great option) and a ROG Ally, Make a pretty sweet combo

[@sd-xh4qh]

You can't update a CPU. Update within 3-4 makes no sense. later CPUs will not be suported by a board. Board+CPU+RAM combo costs same as 1 year laptop.

[@KingdomWithin7]

What are those famous words? Oh yeah, it depends on the person 🤷🏽

[@JayzBeerz]

Desktop you can upgrade laptop you can’t.

[@TheArtOfJerry]

Desktop more fun 😎 keep upgrading. Laptop I just wish for longer battery hours. Desktop can be cheaper. Now is the age of Handheld gaming PC, if all you do is gaming get one. Or wait for Nintendo Switch 2 or even further down the line hopefully a Portable PS5/PS4 handheld gaming console. Not sure why Sony is reluctant.

[@pipebomber04]

Sadly playing total war using controllers is problematic.

[@Homayon_sdd]

Although the laptop's CPU was stronger, it still gave fewer frames. it's interesting. The only advantage of the laptop is that it is portable

[@wildspray0758]

bro should use a monitor as same size as laptop's sreen size to get more FPS

[@uwumochieeuwu]

I hv a monitor but no space for the desktop so i bought a laptop 😂😂😂

[@driven01]

I've always been concerned about upgradability, but to be fair, on my old desktop gaming rig, I never upgraded the video card or processor before I EOLed it. So maybe I need to consider a laptop.

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

Pc snobs will make fun of you for considering a laptop

[@driven01]

@@alengheyvandiyan9430 I get it. But I was soldering systems together back in the Z80 days. I’m pretty sure I’ll survive the criticism. 🤣

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

@@driven01 Good to know you aren't as sensitive as me😂😂😂

[@nWo_remiix]

laptops also get hot so thats not really ideal either but great video i love your content mr marcus

[@tomerdvir2394]

Why not both

[@PcCentric]

👀

[@tomerdvir2394]

Just kidding love your videos they inspired me to build my own PC a couple months ago

[@Future_Troublesz]

Yeah always wondered why Frame Gen increased latency so much on laptop version compared to desktop

[@anab810]

I have an question actually you can sell your old laptop and buy new one too like pc or even selling laptop and buying pc any time but there is a point you should take care of your laptop very good to sell it with very high price

[@RobBroderick44]

2:40 These days ? Swappable RAM & storage has always been a thing. Sure some are easy to open, but with soldered RAM and updgradeable gpus and cpus being abandonned by manufacturers, i'd say we are regressing !

[@rofreebandzz]

Can I download retro gen games that were for the ps3, games like DragonBall Raging Blast 2, and Skate 3. And can I also use a PS controller to play those games on a gaming laptop, or would I need a gaming pc?

[@Antony13820]

Desktop of course 😊 Btw I have exactly the same specs on my gaming desktop

[@FaisalSalh-rd9qb]

Your laptop temps are damn good

[@mitalimali9383]

Connect laptop to a external monitor with mux switch off and optimus off the laptop will perform same or even better than a desktop 😮

[@karlfrieder8118]

My brother used to play on a gaming laptop but switched to desktop since there was no upgradability at all.

[@MayoCaing470]

What HZ is your monitor?.

[@Balrog-tf3bg]

I need to bring my computer to school, and I don’t need a desktop and laptop. So got the Rog G14 with ryzen 9 and 4060. Seems pretty good so far

[@alengheyvandiyan9430]

Pc snobs will crap on you regardless cuz you didn't buy a pc

[@joshmaag2457]

What went from my msi 3070 laptop to my build which is a 7800x3d and 7800xt. My laptop could barely run call of duty and had constant stutters in apex at 1080 with low settings and now the games don’t even feel the same. I will never get a laptop again. I only bought it during covid because I got that laptop when it came out and it was about the same price as a gpu for a desktop lmao. But it did open me up to building a better system then I would have at the time I bought the laptop so I’m happy with the outcome

[@themadakh3229]

I have a 3070 blade. Not stuttering issues at all at 1080p can even do 1440 on halo infinite. Maybe the amd ryzen cpu makes a big difference.

[@chp9450]

I’m getting 240 fps in apex at 1200p and 180+ fps at 1600p on my Lenovo legion slim 5i 4070

[@ilcarlino752]

Ur slow.

[@torinriley7569]

Frankly that sounds like you had real driver issues. A Thinkpad could run those games with the correct configs, a 3070 has really no reason not to be able to do so.

[@pipebomber04]

Time to replace that 2015 laptop

[@Corrupted_Mind1]

Funny how all those tech youtubers never mention the cost of energy when making videos like this. I'm sure it would be like at least 50€ more with a pc but still. I would go for the laptop anyway.

[@-_--le3zk]

Recently saw a deal on acer nitro with rtx 4060 and i5 12450h, 16 gb ddr5 ram, 512 ssd for 830 usd, that 1400 usd for slim 5i feels like a scam to me

[@Spietler]

Not everyone have a spare room for a computer setup, so laptop all the way for me.

[@nisaldasantha1803]

I like gaming pc only. I don't like gaming laptops.

[@blindman8093]

do you have gaming benchmark for warzone 3 in this laptop? or the legion 4060 with 14700hx

[@sebiieex]

Laptop is good for children who don’t care about longevity or performance. Other than that they’re not worth it.

[@themadakh3229]

Such a idiotic comment. Many people have lives outside their mums basement rotting like a coach potato so they occasionally want something powerful that portable.

[@Icegaze039]

Just don't buy a cheap one than?

[@ilcarlino752]

False.

[@sebiieex]

@@ilcarlino752 no sir

[@sebiieex]

@@Icegaze039 none of them are cheap. The “cheaper” ones are bare minimum and the expensive ones will run well for a year and dip heavily.

[@arenrose_]

What is the motherboard in the PC?

[@WeTours2024]

buy a gaming laptop if you are constantly playing anywhere and a gaming PC if you are not.

[@milospetrovic5986]

What about operating sistem support? i know that laptop cant support newer versions of windows

[@isahazizi9900]

did you do the benchmark with the laptop plugged in or out?

[@brawlstarsclips-lc5ef]

thats a good question