Gareth's Guests: Penuel The Black Pen

[@Penuelism]

Shoutout to Gareth Cliff, Ryan James and the rest of the team at Cliff Central. I love and admire you guys very much. Truly honoured to be invited AGAIN. It is appreciated and I'm hoping we can shift minds in SA and beyond. Let's keep growing alternative, LESS CENSORED & LESS BIASED platforms for education & news. 🙏🏽❤️

[@Flows_Playlist]

you legend🙌🔥🔥

[@touchtbo]

So was PornHub the first site you tested in China? 😁😁

[@Moondancer1607]

Good interview - keep doing the good work to improve this country.

[@leondupreez930]

You should read Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein regarding your idea of having people qualify to vote.

[@kultureking9177]

I do not agree with the voter system you’re suggesting. Many black business owners in South Africa are with the ANC because of the tenders. They vote for ANC to keep that business going. Instead of restricting people, why not just educate the people and allow them to vote according to their conscious. It seems like your intentions for voting should result in what you, personally, feel like is right.

[@Mk22022]

Best guest on the show this year... Two of the best voices in SA media today...

[@sebastianpillay8113]

U joining the wrong podcast join podcast and chill

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

The best of what kahle kahle?

[@skgsinc1833]

​​@@sebastianpillay8113a clown show that only talks about s*x

[@reallyon.m]

@@sibongisenikhumalo8198Perspective.

[@christinemarnewick2847]

I love Gareth Cliffs wide based knowledge of various subjects. I love that he laughs.

[@Kampamba]

I can respect Peneul’s refusal to speak on the issues in the Middle East. It is a very galvanising topic and he is not ready to risk it.

[@mthokozisimyende787]

I admire Gareth's profound and diverse knowledge across a range of subjects.

[@frythinker3710]

Penuel is a breath of fresh air. I always find him free to speak his mind, and I have always been envy of that. Today was the first time I hear him being restricted to Express his views (on Jews). Other than that, he is still the guy that has an ability to activate even the idle minds.

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

Speaks his mind yet restricted 😅 ok!

[@geek.6743]

Best interview Gareth - our one & only fearless genius - the Black Pen!! 🦓🍊🌵🌲🌴

[@thurancecameron]

Garreth vs Peneul All day every day. The meeting of the minds😅.loved the interaction

[@sebastianpillay8113]

Nah sol phenduka vs penuel 😊

[@liamsnyman5579]

First time hearing Penuel. I appreciate the breadth of thought and exploration of ideas from both speakers. Good to know there are still public figures who have a vested interest in actually finding ways to make things collectively better. Whether you agree or not, its a good reminder that we can all benefit from a little introspection and consideration, of ourselves and others.

[@SangoMphetshwa]

This is why I love your show so much that I just wake up @5 in the morning

[@EvrythngVarsity]

We need part 2 asap 🎉❤

[@anna-marienel1573]

Inligting comes to mind. Can always count on this channel to bring the A game.

[@MartunBlom]

Gareth. Love this..... I believe we all love this interaction.....

[@SangoMphetshwa]

So much that even my mind is opened

[@sikander_kalla]

Let's collaborate in making alternative media more accessible and scale up in South Africa 🇿🇦

[@ArKaneLifestyle]

Fantastic conversation with two of the best conversationalists in my opinion.

[@fikels]

Great discussion on so many levels. May both of these guys go from strength to strength. Speaking frankly, speaking their truth, unafraid and with good intentions.

[@Niccidasilva]

Penuel/Peniel = face of God. I really like this guy's agenda..I'm literally taking my time to watch his stuff and I think we should all sit with books and pens to make notes . I haven't been watching or following him for long but the impact Penuel has made in my life and my house is indescribable. Thank you for being a beacon of hope. I really feel liberated after watching an episode every day. Free knowledge and wisdom right in front of us, Geez thank you so much. We all need Peneul/God in our lives! 😊😂

[@Penuelism]

Love and blessings, Nicci 🙏🏽❤️

[@bulelanindhlazulwana9311]

Guys thank you so much to the both of you 😊am now even more corrupt 😅lack of better words what a refreshing conversation we are tired of the status quo’s 😅keep up gents this whole discussion was for the strong 💪.

[@nyanakaluvo5604]

Both you guys are legendary are valued to this country 💪🏾👏🏾

[@ethneronnie1857]

Loved the discussions with your guest Penuel, so nice to listen to honesty.

[@ntuthukodlamini6323]

Honestly would have enjoyed the conversation Gareth and Penuel had post this interview. Great episode G, great guest as well.

[@everest-view5841]

Bring him back Gareth we want to hear him on a Random Friday

[@kaizenkhanya]

Penuel is a visionary. What a mind!

[@grantbradshaw7907]

You right he is a visionary and very intelligent

[@aleko_]

Glued to this from beginning to the end! @Gareth please bring the Pen back again, You gents gel well!

[@SaintDC42]

What a great show; whether one agrees or not. It’s really power content! Thanks Gareth!

[@thopenena5923]

Gareth Cliff and Penuel! I liked listening to both of you… do have another convo soon please

[@gundomasutha6271]

The interview was too short, we need part 2 please Mr cliff

[@ndumisoqolintaba8224]

Great minds together

[@christinemarnewick2847]

I watch Penuel podcast regularly. Enjoy his topics of discussion and some of his guests. Different perspectives.

[@aadilahisaac217]

Intresting discussion gents... We need a Part2

[@chrisMchon]

Man i love these 2 guys..very smart nice dialogue between two

[@Penuelism]

IF YOU'RE NOT POLITICALLY LITERATE... PLEASE DO NOT VOTE!!!! - What is your ward number? - Who is your ward councillor? - Who is your mayor? - Who is your premier? - Name most of the Ministers - Who is the President & Deputy President? - What is a green paper & a white paper? - Where is your local Magistrate? - Where is the High Court? Supreme Court of Appeal? Constitutional Court? - What is the Johannesburg Stock Exchange? - What are the major institutions that run this country, from a business perspective? SOEs & private businesses. - Who runs the biggest media platforms? - What is South Africa's relationship with the biggest economies on earth? - What is South Africa's relationship with the rest of Africa, Europe, the Americas & Asia? - The difference between Capitalism, Socialism & Communism? - Democracy vs a Monarch vs a Religious State vs Other Models? - What is British Colonialism & Apartheid? ...etc. If you cannot answer most of these questions... you should not be allowed to vote. YOU ARE A DANGEROUS LIABILITY AND YOU'RE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.

[@Blue_Spear_1905]

The majority of the people who will vote unfortunately do not have the internet to see this post.

[@Mushlanga]

That is an absolutely ridiculous idea, u do not solve a problem by creating another one. Everyone has the right to vote. It is up to the government, pressure groups and even content creators like yourself to make people understand what voting is all about. What is being taught in schools, shouldn't politics and voting be a compulsory subject? Podcasters create hours of content talking about nonsense but then complain about the so called uneducated masses. Penuel be part of the solution, don't come with plans to create bigger problems.

[@Mushlanga]

​@@Blue_Spear_1905correct.These are the problems that need to be fixed

[@tsososkele3355]

This is borderline dictatorship, especially the suggestion that people shouldn’t vote if they don’t see the world according to you & to bash uneducated people is the worst kind of criticism given the effects of apartheid that still coexist with us. I do agree however that the first 6 points should be basic knowledge, but that doesn’t take away the basic freedoms that were fought for which is the right to vote. You have access to resource in a form of your podcast, I’m pretty sure you can get sponsorships to go on a national tour to educate people about such. Use your platform to educate the masses about these points not to only grandstand stating the obvious. Anyone and everyone can bash government to gain popularity and that is cheap, hence in this interview Gareth showed his maturity over you. You still need some maturing to do my brother, I’m one of those will be patiently observing your growth.

[@beyondtshenolo]

Such purposeful conversions guys. And I enjoy your contrasting views, but in a healthy and constructive way. Pen should come back and u guys should tackle specific topics. Thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@sizananimleya]

Penuel The Black Pen! If only people can be interrogating to life issues like Penuel does, maybe just maybe we would get somewhere better. We don’t question things enough.

[@KT23-do8zh]

Took me about the same time Gareth...including the anger of being lied to maybe for 4 years of that period😅( in my adult years)

[@lorellmothiba444]

This ought to be a robust exchange of ideas from these 2! ❤ 🎙

[@atangmcdonald8300]

We need you on the Penuel Show 🙌🏾 dope conversation

[@ruudbwoy404]

Great episode, gentlemen✊🏾👑👑

[@kwanelevilakati]

Great conversation!!

[@ShaunJulies]

Great conversation guys.

[@mohautlali8865]

Incredible meeting of minds.

[@RiazValgee]

The message is we got to brake the mold. ❤💯

[@paulmemela7236]

Awesome engagement gents. Great insights 🔥 🔥

[@MightyBaja]

Gareth, thank you for improving the visuals

[@Moondancer1607]

Excellent interview guys! Really honest & open, enjoyed it thoroughly!

[@Itsnothing389]

@moonchild why isn't big daddy liberty posting anymore on youtube?

[@Moondancer1607]

@@Itsnothing389 Morning - that is a very good question. I've been wondering the exact same thing & haven't heard anything. Maybe he's on the road travelling, but it would be good to hear from him.

[@Itsnothing389]

@@Moondancer1607 I hope his okay thou...

[@Moondancer1607]

@@Itsnothing389 Same, but not sure how to find out. I'm a moderator, but not a personal friend.

[@JostleMedia]

Thanks, Gareth you are the best enjoyed this podcast and to Panuel thanks for sharing your belief. Gareth you must invite McG of Podcast and Chill.

[@princezulu8062]

Gareth is a great interviewer. Penuel is intelligent. He dealt with Gareth very well.

[@phumlanindlovu5653]

🙂✌🏾 this was beautiful to listen to

[@davidmokgohloa8735]

Great Show Guys , Listened to Gareth Cliff from the days at 5 FM every Morning from start of high school until that fateful Morning he announced it his last show 🤣🤣Till this day i still cannot forget

[@onkewakaba8274]

The Admiration I have for Gareth, Penuel, Dj Sbu, Trevor, Vusi,

[@patrickmaduna7714]

Well done Gareth. Some good questions for Penuel.

[@MelloBelloPhotoStudio]

These are very controversial and it is so interesting to see them doing content together

[@CAROS_FITNESS]

This was amazing 👏👏👏👏👏🤝

[@Nobodyreall]

As an EFF member these are the actual conversations we like having with black AND white people

[@sbudaraw426]

Penuel you're spot on 🏆

[@Chompaworld]

Now this was refreshing

[@isaaccpt6643]

Such a great conversation! Many things were spoken about but I'll comment a topic that I'm really passionate about: Cape Independence... Firstly for those that think its not financially viable i have this to say about it: how much expats are there in first first countries that would love to return back to SA? If the Cape becomes independent so much of them will return bringing with them in demand skills and basically direct foreign investment. Theres so much people in SA that would like to see what decolonization looks like when truly expressing the need to make Southern African according to the people living there such as an independent cape or even and independent KZN not living in boarders that England draw up for us. As i said above truly a great conversation 😊

[@Mank_Mindset]

If you have this Guy, you have the Guy, proper Guy💯🔥

[@NakediSerune]

Penuel my favorite mind blower 😮

[@GSMMbizana]

We give Thanks 💧 🥋🔦👑

[@RiazValgee]

Feels like the beginning of an awaking. #SpiritualAwakening

[@manoko8585]

Powerful content here 📍

[@djgugura854]

Part 2 please

[@thabomofokeng4081]

One of the best articulations of Penuel and his religion is on his episode on Podcast and Chill, before then, I had a different idea of what he meant, I enjoy his content because it's provocative, because it's not your run of the mill opinion. Listen to understand, not react.

[@sithanakase7642]

I love this 😎

[@dianaheynes6119]

I absolutely enjoyed this podcast you are both amazing I individual's and who need to be exposed to the greater community for your insights. Thank you do much

[@nganekwane2295]

Haven't watched fully but yho this is going to slap..

[@njabulodlamini2673]

39:59 Listen

[@mbusowanda6027]

Have him everyday!!!!

[@simonsiluma3010]

@Panuel i feel like you held back your deepest views on this one..

[@starlord481]

I listen usually on Amazon podcasts to the thia show but it's much more engaging doing it on you tube live

[@christianKing101]

Black Pen forever!!! Awe!!!

[@bsquad011]

This is gold content.

[@amanithiongowanyoike4302]

I completely agree with the fact that not everyone should vote. Especially if they people don't care enough to due diligence on who they're voting for, and dont completely understand what is required for an efficient well functioning country

[@SxneleF1]

Dope chat..

[@OwenMusanhu]

i love this channel

[@edwardupton9244]

Hahahaha the first minute got me, straight shooting

[@hanshuman1382]

Great conversation. We need to grow as individuals.

[@hlogizaza69]

Penuel is a beast💯

[@spy2sa54]

Gareth Cliff please bring Julius Malema to your show 😢

[@NtokozoPearlKhaula-et3vi]

Only people who want to put South Africa 🇿🇦 to rainbow nation not angry people no thanks.We want intelligent peace, learn for people who really cares about our country. Malema is not for South Africa 🇿🇦 he is for Africa we are still at home 😂.

[@MosesMatsepane]

Gareth made Penuel super uncomfortable with that Israel/Palestine conversation. Gareth is obviously a veteran broadcaster, yes Penuel’s platform is larger, but Gareth knows the dark arts of tough conversations. He ended up pushing Pen off a Cliff to remind him who’s the grootman in this game. Still think both you guys have brilliant and yet flawed views, especially when it comes to voting.

[@davidhayes9893]

I agrea so much, grant recipients should work for their money through social work

[@nhlakaniphotshabalala1012]

Bhut Lungelo❤❤

[@NcebakaziDlamini]

See, when it comes to voting age, it makes no sense for 18 year olds to vote. Today I'm 17 I'm a baby , have no clue whatsoever about government, but tomorrow I'm 18 I'm a grown up and suddenly I'm matured to vote? Lol, no, please make it make sense. There's no way. I always say to myself that the iec needs to reevaluate the voting system. Also, with my experience, a lot of people don't know how the government works. And these people are voters. How on earth do u give people such power when they don't understand how to use it and what comes with it? Makes no sense. IEC really needs to reevaluate the requirements of voting.

[@Penuelism]

Thank you for this comment. I fully agree with you 🙏🏽

[@LionelMessi_10-d1l]

🙌🏽

[@lebzadlamini2844]

I agree about getting people who understand politics to vote🖐️ cause yeah a lot of us youth and our parents have no idea about politics they only care about social grants and hilarious strikes but anything beyond that they are clueless. I've been interested into politics since i was 17 but none of my friends are interested.

[@likhonamfamana4269]

Yhoo 😢

[@thandekakhathi7894]

Begging is not allowed in Oman, it’s a criminal offense

[@malhabmadlala8342]

The epic of Gilgamesh, in impressed Gareth

[@neomonese3565]

this was dope

[@simonboyane1140]

I'm totally disappointed in people who look at this interview as some sort of competition between Gareth and Penuel. This is about education on issues faced by humanity, especially South Africans. Stop being fanatics and start thinking for yourselves. It's obvious that you nothing about disagreements

[@paballobutelezi5532]

Yoh you have said right!!! This is plain educational and taking what works for you as an individual and leave what does not work for you

[@robertbenardo586]

The first Bar 😂 🔥🔥

[@murdoxmac1551]

Too short

[@unda_score]

13:30 I dont think people don't care or don't want to engage with the political landscape. We/they have an array of other issues which are front and centre which require immediate attention

[@unda_score]

I can afford to listen , pause and think about the opinions expressed. But the vast majority do not have those luxuries

[@mthobisizondi2410]

Honestly In the part of Restricting people on voting I would support that hypothetically because it helps to have voters with educated knowledge and also informed But of cause democracy is for all above the majority age

[@beukaakunga9591]

After a deep thought I think Penuel is closely linked to Jewish ideologies?There is a way that he speaks about them. But oh well he is a polymath and on top of that he articulates well. Cant we have a round table: Gareth; Eugene Khoza; Sol Phenduka and Penuel just for the love of knowledge and education ❤

[@dikoenatsolo5561]

21:58 "That's how I mark intelligence, it's not about what you know, it's about how much you want know"

[@MaryGloriaMolema]

This was refreshing to watch❤

[@purpisa_dlamini]

Great conversation, Penuel challenging my thoughts as always but saying Gareth is bating him suggests bro is now captured which is sad for a man with such robust thinking.

[@mbusowanda6027]

🔥🔥Penuel