Garmin Epix After 1 Year

I first reviewed the Black Titanium Sapphire version Garmin Epix 2 when it first came out a little over a year ago and then ordered the white one shortly thereafter. Here's how it's holding up after a little more than a year.
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[@andrejhorvat378]

Garmin Epix Pro Gen 2 is the best watch I ever had. I have 51mm and the battery life lasts 12 days, with allways on display and training every day. Materials, display, hotkeys, morning report and other functions are awesome. If you own Epix Pro gen 2, you wont have a need of another watch anymore. Thank you Garmin.

[@mlegrand]

I love how Garmin just dumped more battery into the Epix Pro 51mm. So good 👌

[@niccodemus6733]

What your size wrist?

[@tadejdanev5030]

I have 6x pro now, which is 51mm no? So i could buy 51mm EPIX PRO GEN2? ;)

[@jbkool]

I can tell you this: I have tried several Amoled top products from the brands in the market : samsung w5 pro ( bad for sports), Huawei gt3 pro (very accurate but they dont care about users), amazfit ( pretty but very innacurate) and always come back to Garmin. Epix is the first that puts all the good stuff together. But what I think it makes the whole difference and make me paid the ultra high premium price is that software keeps evolving. The updates bring new stuff and problems are solved on a regular basis. I'm tired of companies that want us to buy a new watch every year. I prefer pay the double and have the watch for a longer period

[@mlegrand]

Good call. I think there’s some other good value options but you’re right in that the Epix does combine a lot of positives into one Watch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@iMaxPatten]

Great long-term review Matt! The Epix really tapped into something special and showed the future of Garmin watches. Hoping for even brighter displays and even more efficient battery life to come.

[@mlegrand]

I think you're right Max. I think the Epix has shown Garmin that people want a capable watch with an AMOLED screen. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@raggedy7]

Love my Epix. This week alone has been downhill skiing, backcountry skiing, skate skiing, running and Zwift. It's worked perfectly for all those.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, this is an excellent watch for someone who likes to do such a wide variety of activities. Thanks for the feedback!

[@truevol]

Just picked up my Epix2 three weeks ago at Best Buy for $650, and I absolutely love it. Coming from a Fenix 6 Pro Solar, there's really no comparison. And I really enjoyed the Fenix. But this upgrade was a huge leap forward for me. The screen, sapphire, and titanium. The watch is very noticeably lighter than the stainless steel Fenix 6. 😂The Epix2 has better battery life, I was getting 10 days on the Fenix with my workouts, and now I'm getting 14 on the Epix2.

[@mlegrand]

Wow, that price is insane. Nice find. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@brucelin5842]

Which epix ? Epix pro?

[@mlegrand]

@@brucelin5842 - I’m guessing Epix Gen 2. I’ve been seeing deals on it lately. The Pro with the flashlight 🔦 hasn’t had mega sales from what I’ve seen. I do have a Black Friday deals video coming up. 👀

[@McobraR]

Just bought one of these a few days ago, steel model as I prefer the aesthetics of it. No regrets, and love the battery life and Garmins software suite. Coming from a Samsung Gear Sport which wasn't bad for a smartwatch, and I got 3.5 days battery life out of that thing.

[@mlegrand]

I think you'll really enjoy this watch. It's a fantastic device. I would think the stainless steel model might even be more durable to scratches than the titanium. Keep me posted. Thanks McobraR!

[@lukeharris3949]

Thanks for this video. Recently purchased an Epix gen 2 in stainless steel and gorilla glass. I love it but it is NOT my daily wear watch. Workouts and training/testing only. I then take it off.

[@mlegrand]

It’s a great option. The newer pro version with the flashlight is also pretty fantastic. Hope training is going well. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@pierrejoubert8286]

Nice Feedback video...Had my Epix Gen 2 just over a year now and is my daily wearable. For sport I mainly use it for cycling and it is perfect. Never had an issue with the emoled display even in direct sunlight. I mounted mine on the handlebar. Believe me lost of bright sunlight in South Africa 😊. However I still use my Appraoch S62 for Sunday morning golf, but that is 5 hours out of the week. So still very happy with the Epix. Thanx for the review.

[@mlegrand]

Thank for checking this one out Pierre! It's been good for me so far also. 👍

[@outdoorcinema7]

Great observation! I have this watch for hiking, cycling and training. For now it serves me very well. Definitely very good sport watch!

[@mlegrand]

How do you like it for cycling? Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@outdoorcinema7]

@@mlegrand Great. I'm satisfied for now. GPS is working fine, like any other functions what I need.

[@PeterHerget]

How could I not like this video - great intro, Matt 😁 I am going on Day 23 wearing the EPIX 2.0.

[@mlegrand]

Thanks so much Peter! Hope you're enjoying the Epix and I hope you keep cranking out the great content! Cheetah face or otherwise. 😺

[@williamkterrell]

My first Garmin was Fenix 3, I have had other Suunto, Apple, Garmin watches. As a current Epix Gen 2 Black owner I am happy with this watch. As a former pro athlete I enjoy simplicity and at time s am over whelmed with all the data/widgets. Not sure how reliable the algorithms are but it is 2023 and watches are evolving. I look forward to when Garmin allows all high end watches to have the ability to talk and text on. Once they do this then they will be at the top of the Sports Watch Market. Garmin are you listening?

[@mlegrand]

I really wish Garmin listened to these videos. I’d love to see a few. Pre smart features in here. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@Svein-71]

I have epix 2 standard version and very happy, love the maps you can download, so detailed

[@mlegrand]

That's awesome! It's such a good watch. I hope it holds up well for you! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@fitgearhunter]

Great video. You are such a top notch videographer! Still no idea when I will get my 965 order either. Love reading the comments on the AWU/Garmin/Epix debate. I've been testing a bunch of AW apps and am reminded again and again how terrible the AW is with dependency on 12 different apps that don't together do the simple summary of training and wellness information Garmin is mastering. Thanks again!

[@mlegrand]

That might be a great video topic! Looking forward to whatever you make next!

[@fitgearhunter]

@@mlegrand yes just doing app highlight next - might need to consider summary to compare to Garmin - just wish my watches would arrive!

[@chrismoore1182]

Dropped the AWU for the Epix 2 and couldn’t be happier. I like everything about it better.

[@mlegrand]

Wow, I’ve chatted with a few people that have made the switch. I would think you might miss the smart watch features. Thanks so much for the feedback!!!

[@chrismoore1182]

@@mlegrand I don’t need or want a phone on my wrist. I thought I did which is why I was team AWU. I would rarely ever use my AWU to respond to a text or call. I would get to it when i had my phone back in my hand. I like the look of the garmin better. Something about a true sports watch that’s much more motivating for me.

[@mlegrand]

@@chrismoore1182 - 👍

[@davidbell4949]

this is my dilemma. Been pondering for weeks …

[@davidrogers5443]

Love the epix 2. Had it since last June… no regrets 👍

[@mlegrand]

Nice! Glad it's working for you. How is the wear and tear? Any scratches or anything? I think this video unfairly shows off scratches because of the extreme macro shots.

[@bigbigdog]

I just bought the Epix Gen 2 on ebay at a discount and am waiting for it to arrive. For it being a year old doesn't really matter much to me as I am not a hardcore athlete who need the latest and greatest. When I bought my Instinct and Instinct 2 Solar they were both a year+ old as well and I was able to get it at a cheaper price. I really can't justify buying the Epix or Epix Pro at full price cause they are all so expensive.

[@mlegrand]

Super expensive. Good call on getting a good price. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@IamJUMPWIT]

I just ordered my epix pro gen 2 51.. can’t wait to use it.

[@mlegrand]

Oh! I think that’s the one to get. Better battery life, great screen and amazing functionality! It’s such a good option. Keep me posted on what you think. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@v8karre]

I used the Epix since she came out. But i switched now to the Apple Watch Ultra as my daily driver. I still miss some features from the Epix (espacially training readyness, predictions and regeneration) but i do use the „smart features“ more often during a day. To set a timer or calender with voicecommand, making phone calls, answering notifications, etc. just on the watch is really comfortable and useful for me. But to be honest, I am not absolutly happy with the Ultra and perhaps i switch again to Garmin if they create a watch with all the excellent training features from the Epix and the „smartness“ of Apples Ultra.. 👌😉

[@mlegrand]

I honestly don’t know if it’s possible for Garmin to create a watch that is that smart. We’ll see what they do next. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@Doniyorbek_Turgunov]

I had black one and than switched to the white one. I had all models of f6 and f7 series, and I would say that Epix is the best right now. Never worried about battery life, because I don't go for the North Pole expeditions every 2 weeks. And never worried about the scratches and dents, I have minor web like scratches after strongs hits, but no any scratch on a sapphire glass, even after hits. 24/7 heart rate monitor, approx 1 hour daily workouts indoor or ourdoors - with proper settings my epix lasts 20+ days in one charge. So I can charge my watches every 3 weeks, I see no problems. Can't switch back to mips screens and never think about it. Solar feature on this model looks useless imo, the only thing I'm missing from f7x is a built-in flashlight. Now, I want to try 965, but have to wait 4+ weeks ))). Ps. Matt, as always great video! Thanks. ✊️

[@mlegrand]

Thanks for all of this fantastic feedback! 👌 I’ll try to get a 965 to review here shortly. It’d be amazing just to have a functional flashlight built into this size Watch. I love it on my Enduro 2 but that thing is big. 😬

[@Doniyorbek_Turgunov]

@@mlegrand never disassemled fenix watches, but really understand that there should a space for flashlight and bigger battery as well...🙂

[@ralphkuhn2291]

I love my Epix! I use it for run, bike, lifting and HIIT classes. I have the Titanium white version. it also does have some scrapes on the bezel. My favorite feature is the recommended daily workouts!

[@mlegrand]

I’ve used the recommended workouts a few times but I should probably use it more. Thanks for posting your feedback on the watch here Ralph!!! 👌

[@OneGodoneIsrael]

Epix 2 with stainless steel bezel and ember 🍊 silicon strap is 🔥

[@mlegrand]

I agree ☝️

[@lowflyingpigeon7956]

Just got my epix pro after 1year of the samsung galaxy watch 4, damn i wish i did my research before buying that samsung device 😂 having to charge the battery EVERY evening was a pain! It's been 3 days now and I'm loving learning about the cool features this epix has to offer, oh an my battery estimates to last another 29days! 🤟🏼👌🏼

[@mlegrand]

Wow! That’s amazing on the battery front. Glad you’re enjoying this one. Thanks for posting feedback about it!

[@cedric182]

I just ordered this for $599 and now I’m not sure about the white color vs black 😅😅 I’m just tired of all black electronics and wanted a change 😂 might have to return it. We shall see, thanks for the video helping me decide

[@mlegrand]

Yeah no problem! I guess it’s nice to mix up colors occasionally. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@kithinders1086]

The spinny stuff is incredible! I love the morning report. I had it on my watch, then upgraded software and it re-writ my stuff. Oh technology. I'm not very good at it. The close up macro is breathtaking. Ooohhhhhhhhhhhh, titanium! White..........BOLD CHOICE. Taking some product to Europe to shoot and they gave us white socks....they're good for one wear! That visio true up feature is absolutely awesome. The shoe at 6:45 is straight out of "Antz" or another film about giant humans. Awesome work- it is hard to crystal ball - isn't it? I've been waiting on the new Epic...hoping there will be an alloy version, but all my homies with the ins say "No dice." You don't really need to know any of that.... but 100% feel your closing statements about leery to make buying suggestions. XOXO

[@mlegrand]

That shoe shot is just a regular old lens. I’ll have to try something similar with a macro lens. I wonder if you’d even be able to tell it’s a shoe. 🤔 Thanks for watching Kit! 👍

[@adam_tri_hard]

I have the EpixG2 and yesterday bought the FR965 due to the lightness factor compared to the G2 as I wear it for sleep/HRV tracking however I bet my house that Garmin will bring out a Epix G3 light version in about 6-9 months and will certainly kick myself that day that I didn't wait.

[@mlegrand]

Maybe a smaller Epix but I’m guessing they’ll keep the premium watch body which might be heavier than your 965. We’ll see.

[@black79montecarlo123]

Excellent video. Still loving my Epix. Thinking about getting the Pro, but hard trying to justify to myself that the flashlight is worth upgrading.

[@mlegrand]

The flashlight is absolutely amazing. You could always see if your current model sells at a high price before buying the Pro but my gut feeling is that is probably worth waiting to see what’s coming up next and maxing out the value of your current model. 👍

[@NameLikeTheAudi]

Had to watch this video twice, I want to buy the Epix Gen 2 but exactly what you said, they might be updating it soon. I will hold off a few months, or maybe consider the 965.

[@mlegrand]

Thanks for all the views! Yeah, the 965 should be safe from updates. Or at least one would think it'd be safe for a bit. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Keep me posted on what you end up with Tlotolo!

[@andrewjohnston1963]

Looking forward to getting one for my 61st - strange not every Garmin has downhill skiing. Love the Vivoactive4 but battery life is pants now - time to upgrade! Why can’t we recycle old Garmins - must be a market for cheap sports watches (I am in UK)…

[@mlegrand]

I think you’ll love the Epix!!! Let me know if you remember. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@moksavideo2238]

Nice review! I have the Black Titanium Sapphire and all I can say this is the best sport watch I have ever owned and have nothing really to complain about. One thing I would mention that for most accurate readings you must have a pulse band (the HRV values could be a bit off using the watch only). I also had one time it got stucked after swimming, I could not save my results, when I was in a spa-thermal lake. Somehow it could not detect the band on my body, it lost the connection and I had to reset it. Maybe the water did something? I do not know... This thermal water can oxidize silver and other metals, maybe it was a part of it... The battery has plenty of power and charges really fast. It has been a year now and my sapphire glass did not have a single scratch either, even though it has been heavily used. The Garmin connect statistics are way ahead compare to its compatitors and I personally love that you can join with other Garmin users, follow each others' trainings, get inspired, collect badges and points like in a normal video game but you actually have to put hard physical work in the process, not just your thumb is moving... :D

[@mlegrand]

😆 - Yeah, Garmin really seems to understand the endurance community when it comes to awards badges and our needs. Glad you’ve had such good luck with this watch. Thanks for the great feedback!!!

[@moksavideo2238]

@@mlegrand just one thing to add, and I am not sure if it is the limitation of the watch or it is only my short knowledge, but I was trying to get exact measures of obstacle race like trainings. Is there a setting for that? I am trying to get as close as possible when I go for a normal running, but every once in a while I stop for 10 push ups and continue running, then I stop for 10 pull ups and continue running. Do you know how to do that or any tutorials where it is explained? Can the watch keep track of all that under one training session?

[@mlegrand]

@@moksavideo2238 - There are things you could could try. If it were me, I'd probably just set it to run, and maybe add the push ups and pull ups in a description somewhere. But you could make a custom activity type. Go to Multisport, then scroll down to Custom. Name it something then pick Run, Activity 2: Strength (it'll try to count reps but you'll need to adjust and confirm after each set), then Activity 2 would be back to run and so on. Let me know if you try it. I don't think it'd be ideal but it's worth trying.

[@moksavideo2238]

@@mlegrand I'll check it out, thanks!

[@thewildman4300]

Great video once again! I have a fenix 7x and a AWU but every time I see the Enduro 2 I want one of those too... dang

[@Joey92]

7x is near identical to an Enduro 2. You aren’t missing out on a whole lot!

[@mlegrand]

I still have an Enduro 2 here that I need to review. It's a really great option. I do think it's very similar to your Fenix 7X. Amazing battery life and at this point I really do wish every wish every watch would have a flashlight built in. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@pmfahey]

My guess is they'll do a mid-cycle refresh and bump the screen up to 1.4" to match the Forerunner 965. The EPIX is harder to justify now if you can get a larger screen on a less expensive watch.

[@mlegrand]

They could do that and just call it an Epix X but they’ve been friendly with the version bumps so maybe it’s just be the Epix 3 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dnice362]

I just bought the epix and no longer use my Fenix 7 Solar. I love it so far

[@mlegrand]

Good feedback! It’s a shorter battery life but it goes long enough for me, for trips and will cover most of the things I think of. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@mikem4215]

I may buy one soon. Do u use the gesture display ? How is it?

[@mlegrand]

@@mikem4215 - I have a few friends who use it to save battery life. 17 days vs 5-6 but I use the always on display personally.

[@mikem4215]

@@mlegrand I am tempted to order so looking forward to trying both ways. Used to MIP display so wonder if the gesture will take getting used to. Thanks!

[@gearstuffs8007]

Bravo!👍👍👍 I noticed u replied all the comments!

[@mlegrand]

I try. Getting to know the people who watch the videos is the part of the fun! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@gearstuffs8007]

@@mlegrand may I know 'Change Sport ' how does it work? I mean it still recorded the previous activities or sport?

[@mlegrand]

@@gearstuffs8007 - If you want to add an addition sport to the total activity time. An example might be a swim then a run directly afterwards.

[@81Riel]

Best Garmin watch for me, truly epic 👌

[@mlegrand]

That's awesome! I'm so glad you're enjoying this one! 👍

[@GOLFADDICT65]

This is my first smart / fitness / health watch....why does hardly anyone mention the awesome golf stats on this watch ? EPIX PRO I just ordered this watch in sapphire cause i am an avid golfer.....its was a huge selling point for me,, plus i wanted an everyday smart / health / sports watch all in one...lookin forward to getting it.....great video....cheers from Canada

[@mlegrand]

Personally, I don’t play golf but I’ve heard that these golf features are good. Maybe all the good golfers are too smart to spend their time making videos for KZbin 😆

[@GOLFADDICT65]

@@mlegrand lol....thx for the reply...cheers

[@davidbell4949]

Great video. I’m trying to decide between AWU and Epix. Currently have AW7. Garmin looks brilliant and i’m so tempted. The AW feels like just an extension of iphone whereas feel ok getting a lot more value and features with garmin.. plus it looks better to wear with suit for work 😂

[@mlegrand]

That’s a hard call. I have a video that I recently posting talking about Apple vs Garmin. I think you’ll miss the smart watch features if you switch but I agree, some of these Garmin watches look a little nicer. 👌

[@richardt9692]

I was in the same boat back 4 months ago. I decided to jump from AW 7 to Garmin Epix 2. I have been extremely happy with the decision. The only thing I miss is ApplePay which Garmin is lacking but aside from that it’s been great.

[@surreytrailgoat5469]

I am constantly changing between AW Ultra and the Epix 2. It will be great to have a watch that had everything they both have 😞 - I think the 965 will sell pretty well due to the screen.

[@mlegrand]

I think it’ll sell well also. I need to find one to review here ASAP. Thanks for all of the continued support here on the channel! 👍

[@jonathantimm4645]

I have the same problem. Almost settled on keeping the Ultra and selling the Epix but then it keeps pulling me back in.

[@adrianlim901]

Never regret change from Apple to epix 👍🏻

[@mlegrand]

That’s awesome feedback. Glad you’re happy with the switch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@LeeBoris974]

Had my year as well, and I do love it, but two things. Most of the watch faces I do not like on it. There are a couple of good ones, but I like the screens of my old Forerunner 745 better (especially for data). Only other thing is I wouldn't mind a smaller watch again. I have small wrists and it's a bit big for me. No scratches on my black titanium version at all (that I can see), but I am very careful with watches.

[@mlegrand]

I wonder if the black titanium does better than the white. 🤔 I have a few friends I can bug. Thanks Lee!

[@ted363636]

MIP screen all the way! Couldn't stand constant dimming and gesture mode, so I returned Epix and went back to Fenix line. Hopefully they'll stay with Fenix and Epix lines with their respective screens and won't go all AMOLED.

[@30mattdavies]

Opposite for me, after trying the epix the fenix had to go, especially with that totally upgraded mapping on the epix

[@mlegrand]

I do think MIP transflective displays are a bit underrated. I like AMOLED displays but I'd hate to see Garmin give up on a technology that allows for month long battery life without having gesture mode or some other sub standard workaround. It'll be very interesting to see what Garmin does with the Fenix 8. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@TheZanshen]

Had the fenix 7x sapphire solar and returned it due to the display and got the Epix 2 DLC TITANIUM and it’s night and day comparison.Also coming from a AW 7 the battery on the Epix is superb.

[@ted363636]

@@TheZanshen yeah coming from AW you probably were used to silly gestures. I actually ran away from AW to Garmin years ago because I liked the idea of displays reminding me of real watches, not smartphones. Customers are different, hopefully Garmin will please both of us ;)

[@TheZanshen]

@@ted363636 Hi I purchased the Epix 2 for the better health and fit metrics.

[@luxpaparazzi]

Is Body-Battery know synched between devices? Also training with Edge now influence bodybattery on the Epix?

[@mlegrand]

The short answer is I don't know for sure. I know Garmin has been working on some of the syncing issues. Last I looked, Garmin was still missing body battery syncing between devices.

[@carloscssr]

Hi. I have an instinct 2x white. I'm planning on getting a epix pro 51mm. I know it's a very personal choice, but which one do you feel is less prone to scratches and wears better with other wrist bands, in different colors? The white version, or the black one? Titanium. Thanks!!!

[@mlegrand]

I've only had the white but it does show a lot of scratches along the titanium bezel. I think I'd try the black if it were me. 🤷‍♂️

[@carloscssr]

@@mlegrand thanks!!!

[@mvny]

I just managed to buy the white sapphire titanium version of epix gen 2 for about $520. I hope it's not too late. How does the accuracy look after all the updates (+sleeping)? Have you swim in it at the pool perhaps? Is it accurate? Any tips on settings for the newbie?

[@mlegrand]

Everything has been looking good on this watch recently. And awesome that you got a killer deal on this one. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@potfor]

EPIX is a great watch. But I was envious about MIP display on my wife’s Fenix6S when we were on a beach. So I returned to the classic and bought Enduro2. Now I’m fighting with myself about it I should use Enduro or Watch Ultra. As one is better then the other in such a different way. Maybe MARQ could be something in between.

[@highseastrader4190]

A Marq is just a stylish and very expansive Epic... You don't get any exclusive feature.

[@mlegrand]

I’m loving the Enduro 2. I use that flash light every day that I have that watch on. I do think the AWU is a smarter smart watch so you’ll just have to decide if it’s worth the trade offs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@potfor]

@@highseastrader4190 you get one. The most important here - build quality and exclusivity. Built closer to the AWU

[@potfor]

@@mlegrand AWU is astonished on a daily basis. But the lack of proper view on my fitness data and the “lack” durability. Not that the AWU is delicate, it is just built rather like a jewellery smartwatch than a tool (like it is with the ENDURO)

[@RoelandCSchaart]

I really like the watch AND sleeptrack sucks. Sometimes it does not pick up my sleep for a week.

[@mlegrand]

Wow, a week? That’s crazy. I haven’t had any issues with sleep. It might be worth reaching out to Garmin. To see what’s going on.

[@RoelandCSchaart]

@@mlegrand Thank, I did I already got another one from. Garmin. I guess my tattoos on both arms my the cause---

[@luc7976]

@3:17 46mm? I think it's rather 47mm (DesFit measured 47.1). I wish they would reduce the bezel little bit to make it more compact. The GPS auto mode uses more battery than GPS only so I'd avoid it unless you are in areas like Yosemite where I did see issues. The one downside with AMOLED besides battery life, is that in very bright conditions the always on display is almost unreadable unless you use gesture control. Also I wish they allowed white background for the data pages (I understand burn-in problems though), but at least the map isn't.

[@mlegrand]

I just measured it at 47.1 and it's actually wider if you take into account the buttons. So button edge to button edge it's closer to 50mm. Thanks for the correction Luc!

[@ChrisUK70]

Had mine almost a year sapphire version and have scratches on the bezel, annoying because it is such a cool looking watch!

[@mlegrand]

I think that’s just part of having this wider bezel. I wonder if the titanium is more scratch prone than the stainless steel bezel. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@pavan20100611]

Compulsive/Impulsive buyer in me is so so wanting to buy EPIX Gen2 for couple of weeks now and I shut him up saying it is overkill for what I do (Even the FR255 is) and continue with AW SE. Just last night I watched, again, your EPIX Gen-2 review. I “had” convinced that impulsive buyer in me that EPIX is not for me. Looks like universe wants me to buy it because why on earth your EPIX after 1 year video pops up on my KZbin page as soon as I picked my iPad?!! :). I am going to show your review and this video to my wife if she makes faces at me when I open the box in front of her :) :) So it’s your fault, Matt ;) ;). Having said that just nervous thinking what EPIX Gen 3 might have in it and should I wait for few more months to see if Garmin releases next version. And any plans to compare AW Ultra with EPIX as they both look similar devices to me in terms of screen, pricing etc. Great Video again Matt. Love your content and perspective, mate. Take Care.😊

[@mlegrand]

I should probably make an Epix vs AWU, it’s just that I know a few friends have already made that comparison. Feel free to blame me for all future purchase 😆

[@langmack88]

How does this watch stand up today. Was looking at getting a venue 3 but found epix 2 titanium for simliar price. Wondering if it's worth going the newer venue or still the older Epix 2 ?

[@mlegrand]

Personally, for the stuff I like to do, the Epix is a significantly better device. The materials alone would make it a better choice. The sapphire displays should hold up better against scratches but keep in mind that it's also a heavy device.

[@langmack88]

@@mlegrand thanks for the reply. My biggest concern is that the Epix is an older watch. Hopefully Garmin keep the updates coming for it.

[@ecmperalta]

Great review! I would love to have an Epix, but here in Brazil we have crazy prices and to many thief. For now I’m with a Venu 2 Plus tô every day and thinking of using a Fenix 5 to any practice, just concerned with sinc between they. I’ve tested a few days and saw that Body Energy slow down the consumption (similar practice usaing all day the Venu ends the day with few energy). How is working the sinc between different devices with you?

[@mlegrand]

I'd really like to test the Venu 2 plus. It's the only Garmin watch with the new ECG test. The syncing is really solid now with these updates. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@justinhongphotography]

How is the battery life with navigation on? I’m curious if it would stand up to 30 ish hours aka around a 100 mile race with poor marking. I appreciate any feedback!

[@mlegrand]

Mapping takes a bit more battery life. The short answer is, I don’t know how long it would go with detailed maps showing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@justinhongphotography]

@@mlegrand no worries, thank you for your answer!

[@antongustafsson8713]

I don't know if your graph is wrong or you just said wrong but the name for light blue is 745 hrmstrap and the more purple line is name epix.

[@mlegrand]

Highly likely that I mixed it up in the chart legend. Sorry Anton.

[@gravbloss81]

what do you mean by "this watch is 1 year old and garmin can make a new watch"? does this mean the epix gen 2 will no longer work if i own one?

[@mlegrand]

I just mean that I've had that watch for one year. It's a review after a year. Sorry for the confusion.

[@jonathantimm4645]

I have switched between the Apple Watch Ultra and Epix 2. Finally settling on the Ultra and getting ready to sell the Epix 2 but it keeps pulling me back to it.

[@mlegrand]

It’s such a hard call. They’re both good at different things.

[@bonn1771]

Great review. Love the autosync. The white still looks nice. I figure it be a lot worst.

[@mlegrand]

Yeah, it’s fine. I thought it’d be worse also. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bonn1771]

@@mlegrand do you ever think epic solar?

[@mlegrand]

@@bonn1771 - I wouldn’t be surprised to see Garmin do that at some point but these displays are so hard on battery life that the solar isn’t as helpful %-wise. Solar is fantastic on the Instinct because that watch draws such a low amount of power. We’ll see 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bonn1771]

@@mlegrand fair point

[@collinhung7301]

Bought standard epix 2 for 599+ tax during prime day. Should I keep it? Debating due to lack of dual gps band.

[@mlegrand]

I vote keep it. I’ve been really impressed with the GPS accuracy even without the duel band. If you have an older watch, wear both for a run or hike and have a look at which GPS track looks better. It’s still remarkable. I’m at the point where I think it has more to do with the GPS antenna and Garmin’s algorithms vs any specific chipset. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@Shane-zs2fr]

I bought the Forerunner 965 recently, but seen that the Epix 2 (black titanium) was on sale for basically the same price. Is it worth getting the Epix 2 instead?

[@mlegrand]

🤷‍♂️ - I'd say only if you really prefer the way the Epix 2 looks and you can easily return the 965. There's also an option to get better materials on the Epix gen 2. That Sapphire lens will hold up extremely well. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@Shane-zs2fr]

@@mlegrand thanks for replying! I’m new to the fitness watch this will be my first smart watch. I actually can return the 965 and It is the Epix gen 2 (w/ sapphire and amoled).

[@darcyhodge535]

Hi Matt, thanks for the great review! In Australia I am considering either the Epix gen 2 titanium in white like you have in the video, versus the Venu 2. For me, I can get the Epix for $450 usd, or the Venu 2 for 270 usd. I am not a fan of the white colour scheme. Do you think it is worth the price jump and colour comprimise to go for the Epix? Thanks mate 👍

[@mlegrand]

That's a hard call. I guess I need to know more about you, do you need mapping, triathlon, mic and speakers on the watch? I should have a Venu 3S review coming up in a few weeks. My wife's stolen it from me and won't give it back to me to work on the review. 😬

[@darcyhodge535]

@@mlegrand thank you mate! Looking forward to the review 😃

[@gabriellyche6143]

It would be awesome if you could compare the Epix with the new Forerunner 965!

[@mlegrand]

If I can find a 965 to review, I’ll do it. Until then, Ray has an excellent exhaustive comparison of the two. @dcrainmaker

[@gabriellyche6143]

@mlegrand thank you for the suggestion! I have already checked it out, great video. Looking forward to a potential comparison by you as well

[@g.g.2359]

To be honest.. the white band is holding up way better than any silicone garmin dark band.. the matt finish on the black bands is getting very worn within days of use, at least its not that visible on the white band or any light colored band. I want them to start making some nylon bands like the coros apex 2 pro ones .. so much better than this silicone.

[@mlegrand]

Good call. Technically you could use those Coros bands on your Garmin. 🤔

[@sebasotz]

Do you recomend to use it with always on display? i´m concerned about burn in zones in te amoled screen

[@mlegrand]

I've been using it with always on display for the past year and haven't seen any burn in zones coming from the AMOLED screen. I have a few friends who prefer the raise to wake for the extra battery life. 🤷‍♂️

[@jozy_alfa]

If you were to buy an Epix right now would you get the Epix Pro or this one?

[@mlegrand]

I think it’s 150 less but I’d be tempted to get the pro because I think Garmin will introduce the ECG functionality.

[@brucelin5842]

Is the epix white look better than black ?

[@mlegrand]

🤷‍♂️ - I don't think it looks better necessarily.

[@5hyk]

Is it worth still buying at $400? (Steel Version)

[@mlegrand]

Absolutely 👍 I do love the flashlight on the pro version but that’s an amazing price for this nice of a watch. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍

[@fulldaywork4200]

I am still deciding between Epix 2 and Fenix 7X. What makes me pound more to 7X is the amoled screen on Epix 2 which can maybe have burn in.

[@mlegrand]

I personally haven't seen much burn in after a year. I'm sure it's an issue but I'm just not seeing it. I have an upcoming video this week where I'll be talking about my thoughts between those two computers that might be helpful as you decide.

[@fulldaywork4200]

@@mlegrand Thanks! I will be waiting for that video!

[@PhilipDuePedersen]

Get the 965 instead 👍

[@mlegrand]

Lots of us are trying. It should be shipping soon. 👌

[@taklayagelensermest]

Why?

[@ola_bode]

I use the EPix. Yes, there is the risk of a new model being released soon. When we get to that bridge, pray for my wallet.

[@mlegrand]

😆 🙏🏻 - It'll probably be a while. The current Epix is solid so we'll see. Thanks Ola!

[@mikem4215]

I think it will be a while too. The next release is crucial with the amoled route they go and how they expand the line etc or not

[@ImpalerVlad]

You can always pick up a pre owned one for half the price.

[@mlegrand]

A pre owned Epix would be a really smart purchase. 👌 Good call Vlad!

[@worldsmart02]

$1000 is too much for year old Watch . Isn’t 965 better with longer updates .

[@mlegrand]

I actually haven’t been able to get my hands on the 965 to review yet. Thanks!

[@willsmith3202]

When do you think they will bring another epix out ?

[@mlegrand]

I have no idea. If I had to take a wild guess, I’d say one year from now. But it could be tomorrow. Garmin doesn’t tell me stuff like that.

[@willsmith3202]

@@mlegrand as I need to upgrade my watch I still don’t know what to get either the epix or the fenix but I don’t want to get one of them just incase they bring another out

[@mlegrand]

@@willsmith3202 - Yeah, that’s a hard call. It’s nice to snag these watches early in the release cycle but then they also have more bugs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@willsmith3202]

@@mlegrand that is true

[@mikem4215]

Buying mid cycle or buying every other cycle I’ve found best.

[@anachsetamon]

Titanium is more scratchable than steel.

[@mlegrand]

I'm learning that. But I also wonder if it's the coating that they're using on this watch. My AWU is also titanium and doesn't have anywhere near the scratches as this bezel.

[@anachsetamon]

@@mlegrand they use black dlc coating which is very easy to scratch.

[@Rresenden]

Music is to loud

[@mlegrand]

Thanks for the feedback on the edit Ricardo. I'm always trying to make these videos a bit better.