Garmin inReach Mini vs Zoleo vs Somewear | Head-to-head Field Test, 4 Days

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1. Garmin inReach Mini 2 snp.link/e5924b07
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Above are our top picks based on our recent-head-to-head backcountry field test. We tested the Garmin inReach Mini, Zoleo and Somewear on message send reliability, location (waypoints), tracking accuracy, weather reports, phone app features and ease of use, physical unit features and ease of use, battery life, size/weight/ease of carry, and cost of data plans.
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[@happyeagle92]

Timestamps + notes: 0:41 Garmin inReach mini - Smallest and lightest unit of the 3 - Most fully feature rich - Most reliable for messaging and trip tracking - Can also read emails - It's a satellite only unit. Does not use cellular or wifi data - More complicated user interface 2:01 Somewear: - Does both messaging and tracking - Has downloadable maps - There's also webportal where users can track your progress and see the location of your messages on a map on the web. But these functions are less robust than the InReach. - Advantage compared to InReach min: Does transparently move between cellular/wifi/satellite data, far easier user interface (don't even do a user manual) 3:08 Zoleo: - Heaviest and largest unit. Least expensive unit and least expensive data plan. - Does only 1 thing besides sending SOS messages: It can send text messages or email messages - Has the most seamless messaging between cellular, wifi, and satellite data. It has a dedicated cellular number. Limitations: - Does NOT do tracking - No in-app mapping - No webportal for people to view your messages or progress

[@adventure_alan_co]

Nice synopsis! Warmest, -alan

[@harithjones3083]

For future folks reading this the zoleo also has a checkin feature, the button is on the device or you can check in via the app. This sends gps location information to the contact.

[@gregptest1213]

Thanks for the detailed information. I am planning on using for a slightly different situation, that is probably less common, but I'm sure not uncommon. I want to be able to go to places that out of cell phone range, but be able to receive emergency text messages. (I'm helping care for some sick family members) So in case of emergency, I can quickly pack up and head home. Usually I am not backpacking so weight is not an issue. It seems like the zoleo is the obvious answer since my primary use case is someone texting me in emergency and I'm able to get the text, despite being out of cell phone range.

[@dustyroads834]

The newest Zoleo has tracking feature now. It’s larger because it has a huge battery

[@natea1042]

Actually incorrect on a "huge battery". They have a very similar battery capacity (1430mAH vs 1250mAH) but Garmin has a much shorter life due to the LED screen where the Zoleo is just an antenna.

[@donreinholz8121]

Thanks for producing this video. If you aren't hiking all the time the initial cost and data plans can get expensive for a weekend warrior who is busy with other hobbies as well as hiking. Thanks Alan.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Very true Dan. But safety also is important. Best, -alan

[@jtwild4686]

The ZOLEO also has a dedicated email address in addition to the cell number. Great device I recommend above the competition for simplicity, price, plus has on device (buttons) for SOS and check in. Thanks for your review!

[@adventure_alan_co]

The Zoleo is indeed nice, but overall I think I prefer the Somewear for it's smaller size, lower weight, and ability to do tracking points on a publicly viewable webpage. YMMV. Best, -alan

[@josephkahlich3326]

When texting, especially in urgent situations type in the time, in the messa.message itself, that you are sending the message. This should go for all communicating parties. Lesson we learned the hard way when outside of cellular and we locked our keys and wallets in the truck. It took 14 hours to get the vehicle unlocked. 10pm to 12pm. I received a message at 10am that was sent at 12:30am. The ironic thing is that it fit the current conversation that my other party and I were having. Because of that it caused us to divert plans and prolonged us get unlocked. (Much longer story). The thing is, you are going to be texting through satellite. It is very slow and messages could come out of order.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Thanks for that insight Joseph. Warmest -Alan

[@soloadvtravel]

Great review! Would like to know if the Somewhere or InReach plans are “suspendible” like the Zoleo , when not in use.

[@nedsled2994]

You can compose messages on the inreach. I did it in fact on a trip where my phone stopped working. Makes it the safer device if you are actually using this for in case of emergency

[@adventure_alan_co]

Hi Ned, agreed that it is possible to compose a very short message on an inReach Mini but it’s incredibly tedious to type out even a few sentences without anything remotely resembling a keypad. Better than nothing, but barely so. Best -Alan

[@nedsled2994]

@@adventure_alan_co ok. Have you tried it? It has auto complete holding the ok button down to fill in guessed words. I do agree far from the simple and easy but in an emergency it does not take that long (especially if you practice before hand) to get a basic message out. like if you hit the sos button, you could let the emergency responders know if you needed to be airlifted out, or just needed an assisted rescue like if you twisted your ankle and could not make it out alone but not bleeding or need emergency right now help. I used it once to tell my gf I was going to be late out of the trip but ok so not to worry and my phone died so it was all I had. I find this very valuable to be full stand alone if needed even if not ideal way to message.

[@MrDehicka]

@@adventure_alan_co This feature can be life changing in an emergency situation. Huge plus for me. Also you could predict situations like Ned's and make a preset messages so you do not have to type them.

[@sojourn6697]

Well presented. I liked that you didn’t fly through your presentation at 100/mph like so many do and in the end all they sound like are turkeys. You took your time and were considered in what you said.

[@larryberkelhammer6208]

Alan, Thank you for your amazingly informative videos. Based on your comparisons of the Garmin Mini, Zoleo, and Somewear, I decided to get the Zoleo since I will only be using it for getting help in an emergency (medical or AAA). Then I saw that the lowest monthly rate for the Zoleo is $20.00 whereas InReach has a $12.00 monthly with the annual subscription. Even though I won't be using most of the Garmin Mini features, I ordered it because in the long run it is actually the most economical.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Nice work Larry! And glad you found the review helpful. Best, -alan

[@west]

But did you factor in the $40 annual fee? How many months of the year are you using it?

[@JM.5387]

Great review. Just to clarify, the pre-set OK messages from Zoleo are free and include your GPS coordinates, is that true? So it doesn't track your route but does allow you to send your location to someone at home. Not bad for a $200 device. I would think Zoleo would perform best on the AT or someplace where you're going in and out of civilization, because folks can reach you via the SMS number wherever you are. Could also be great for international travel. If you're hiking the CDT (or JMT) and you're out of cell range for weeks, that's less relevant, and the navigation capabilities of Garmin become more important.

[@MalcolmLanham]

The Zoleo does do tracking. You can do location share on it

[@medor6635]

Thank you Alan for this video. I’ve been using the 66i with InReach for almost a year and not a single issue with it. In fact I barely used my maps. I also used Spot for about two years and my advice to anyone using it, please do not use it in deep canyons cuz it just doesn’t work at all!

[@adventure_alan_co]

Thanks for sharing MEDOR. I would agree that the SPOT is more challenged to get signals out in difficult transmission areas. Warmet, -alan

[@UguysRnuts]

@@adventure_alan_co It doesn't utilize the Iridium Satellite system.

[@scottburghart9278]

Great vid thanks! The Zoleo does it for me for sometimes out of cell range motorcycle adventures.

[@tjs1694]

Excellent video. I ended up ordering a Zoleo with the help of your review. Why you ask? Because after owning a SPOT I learned that tracking wasnt important for me and my family. I cant tell you how many times I would return from a trip (after spending alot of time setting up users to see the interactive maps etc) to find out that nobody actually looked where I was. At the end of the day, my wife wants to know if I am OK. She liked getting the canned "Im OK" messages and that is all that mattered. I figure when Im in the back country Ill send messages (5-6 per day saying that Im OK). If a S&R team needed to know where to look, the message history should give them a good clue. I will be sure to add more info to message like "Im OK - heading to Baker Creek to set up camp" so that its like tracking.... Hopefully this feature will be added later.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Yeah, Zoleo says that tracking is in the works. Best, -alan

[@ms7fam433]

Thanks for the fair and thorough evaluation of all three. This will go a long way in assisting us with our decision. We enjoy your videos and keep up the good work.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Our pleasure! Glad it was helpful. Best, -alan

[@UguysRnuts]

Definitely leaning towards Zoleo for my type of canoe camping and it's ea$e of operation. I generally stay on one (larger) lake and don't portage, which makes getting lost highly unlikely. I will always have a map, as should everyone in case their device fails, and the screens are so tiny anyway, the map feature, for this old guy, is of little use. Plus it is compatible with my Goal Zero solar panel and power bank. Could have used it last year after busting some bones in the back woods. Only other unit I need to look at is the, brand new, SPOT Gen4 as sold by Algonquin Outfitters. Thanks Alan; have subscribed.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Thanks for the kind words. Our pleasure. The Zoleo sounds like a good fit for you. Unless you are very sure you absolutely don't need 2-way communication, I would steer clear of the 1-way SPOT units. Best, -alan

[@JM.5387]

2 way communication is worth the money. So many times just being able to check in with someone at home and let them know you're delayed but OK can save them from having to call SAR. Or maybe you need information about trail conditions, fire closures, etc. Communication is intelligence.

[@UguysRnuts]

@@JM.5387 I bought the Zoleo seems like two season's ago now. It does have two way communications in the way of text messaging as well as a free check in service to a list of people to say you're okay. Mostly happy with it. Paying $5.35 monthly in the off season is good. Weather reports are great. Battery excellent. And they've been real nice to deal with.

[@Mirrikat]

The somewear tracking - each ping counts as a map pin drop. It eats your data plan up quickly.

[@TroyGabe]

Zelio great for letting people friend, family, loved 1 know where you are and the SOS to bring help if needed at the cost I love it and great for all around use when out of area not just a message device I would won't someone I care about attest have this device when out on the trail. Wouldn't you agree?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Unless you absolutely need tracking, The Zoleo is the equal of any device out there. Best, -alan

[@marknewman8609]

Awesome review but one incorrect thing you mentioned is that you need your phone to type a message on the mini. You definitely do not need your phone but it sure speeds typing up. It's almost like the old T9 messaging. I currently have the mini but I think I am switching to the Zoleo simply because I don't need the mapping or tracking.

[@adventure_alan_co]

You are correct Mark, altho it soooo tedious as to be pretty much non-functional unless you were desperate to get a single message out. No way would you be exchanging messages with folks (e.g. interactively transmitting a person's medical condition and getting appropriate care and response in return - or even working out an evac plan or extraction location). Also curious why since you ALREADY have the mini, you would go with a heaver unit with less functionally. Or is the seamless WiFi, Cell, to Satellite that you find attractive. Best, -alan

[@marknewman8609]

@@adventure_alan_co You are right you definitly would not want to try and explain an emergency with the T9...... Reason I was thinking about selling the mini for a Zoleo is for the ease of use. I own rental cabins in the mountains and there are times when I lend my mini out and the customers had issues using it. The zoleo seems much easier as anyone can just down load the app and away you go. I know the mini you can do the same but just seemed like way more hoops to jump through. Also the monthly cost is cheaper with the Zoleo. What do you think? Am I wrong about thinking like this? Thanks.

[@UguysRnuts]

@@marknewman8609 I agree. I owned a first generation Garmin GPS for my sailboat that was very difficult to operate.

[@robbabcock_]

Great review! I'd never heard of the Somewhere unit so that's cool.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Our pleasure. Best, -alan

[@wanttogo1958]

I'm a little surprised you didn't mention the bare bones option of the ACR ResQLink that, as I'm sure you are aware, only sends a 5 watt distress message if you are in a bad situation in the backcountry. There is no data plan because none is necessary to operate the device. It represents, in my mind, the least expensive option for the primary reason I would carry one of these devices into the backcountry on a backpacking trip along an established trail system (my primary hiking experience), to get help when your situation is dire and you're out of other options. I enjoyed the video and learned a few things too. Your backcountry test of the three sending messages in less than ideal conditions was a particularly useful demonstration of their capability to provide that service.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Want to go, having done a bunch of emergency medical treatment in the field (via Sat Phone while in contact with a medical professional and in one case texting with medical professionals), and having orchestrated a few life threatening helo evacs, I can say that Sat Phone is the gold standard, and 2 way texting via a Sat Messinger is the next best. No better way to assess the situation with medical professionals, give treatment and have help arrive prepared for the situation. And then there's getting evac route info and assessing if the patient is stable enough to evac (all from local professionals), and/or establishing where the helo can land. PLB's can do none of this. Warmest, -alan

[@wanttogo1958]

@@adventure_alan_co thanks for the reply. I agree completely that as a group leader there is no substitute for a Sat phone; my second choice would be the Garmin InReach mini. For an individual on a budget who might struggle to even afford the device, much less the recurring cost of a plan, I think the ACR device I noted is certainly worth considering.

[@UguysRnuts]

@@wanttogo1958 Perhaps not. With the Zoleo (or any unit that allows you to compose texts) you can customize the SOS to suit the situation, say for instance if a water taxi can effect your rescue compared to a chopper. I've heard of people paying thousands of dollars for helicopter time when they've hit their SOS buttons when they could have been assisted much more economically.

[@detodosmoles]

Is there an update to InReach firmware making it more user friendly? Is there a review on the new Garmin Messenger? Is Garmin Messenger a response to Zoleo and Somewear?

[@knr1445]

I'm curious to know how you feel about the inReach Explorer? It's not much more in cost.

[@adventure_alan_co]

It's much heavier and doesn't really add anything. Best, -alan

[@supersport3714]

Please explain more on sendng a location with the Zoleo. What does it look like for the end user. I understand it doesn’t have tracking.

[@terryh3689]

No mention of how the SOS works with each. Who or what receives the SOS and what do they do with the information? Any differences? I had read there is a dedicated emergency organization associated with the Garmin.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Terry, what you are referring to is that Garmin recently acquired GEOS which provides emergency monitoring and incident response services that handles the SOS most of from most of these devices: Gwww.businesswire.com/news/home/20210105005152/en/Garmin-acquires-leading-provider-of-emergency-monitoring-and-response-services. That is, the SOS messages from these units all go to the same place. Best, -alan

[@NewEarthAwakening]

FYI - the Somewear is the cheapest subscription starting at $8.33 a month annual or $15/mo monthly, and no fees to pause or restart subscription. Garmin InReach starts at $12/mo or $15/mo for a pauseable plan, but has fees for this, wonky customer service and website, and can only be paused for 1 month at a time. Zoleo starts at $20/mo, subscription is not pauseable, and reviews on Amazon question reliability. The Somewear looks like the best option to me. For those wondering, it’s only 1/2 oz heavier than the InReach with much better battery life while tracking, which could save weight in battery bank needs.

[@NewEarthAwakening]

Also the problem with the “seamless” zoleo messaging is reviewers on Amazon said they had no way of knowing how many of the expensive satellite messages were being used vs sent through phone, etc. Definitely read the Amazon reviews for these units first!

[@Jerry-bg6mn]

I went with Somewear for the subscription pricing and the free pausing, I've been very happy with it, but I only need it a couple of times a year and keep it paused when not in use. The tracking can also be activated on and off by pressing and holding the button on the unit for 3 seconds also, if your phone was dead. For video clarification.

[@user-zo6xg8bx4l]

My conclusion is that when considering purchase cost, performance, and monthly expense the Somewear wins hands down. Tell me why I'm wrong.

[@Mirrikat]

After using both somewear and spot - I may be going back to SPOT and dropping Somewear, or I might try inReach. The tracking with Somewear is deceptive. Data plans state pin drops. Tracking and pin drops are separate selections on the app so you might not realize how much of your plan you are eating through with tracking. If you set tracking at 10 min intervals and go out for 2 hours, you've now just created 12 pin drops. If you have the 50 pin drops per month plan, that's going to eat up your plan quickly. I want tracking. I don't want to worry about how much it might cost me. I don't want to run out of data mid trip. If you don't want to use tracking on a long trip, somewear might be enough for you.

[@user-zo6xg8bx4l]

@@Mirrikat Thanks for the input. :-)

[@bakicci]

can you easily text back and forth on these devices?? or is it only a 1 way thing?

[@juskojj]

zooleo does now offer tracking for $6/monthy

[@lostatsea99]

What do you mean "does not track"? Meaning you do not see where you have been and where you are on some computer screen elsewhere or even on the device? The zoleo requires a Cellphone to send/receive messages so its strictly a comms device, so control is the cell phone,.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Clifford, by "does no track," I mean that you can't set it to automatically log your location every 10 minutes as you walk and generate a "satellite based" track that viewers can see real time on the Web. We believe this is a close to essential feature. Best, -alan

[@lostatsea99]

Thanks, I will probably go with the Somewear

[@bakicci]

if zoleo fixes the mapping and tracking thing then id love to get it but for now, idk

[@heathermoorland3302]

All I want is some little gizmo on which I can push a button to send an SOS if I break my leg or whatever. Do not need a weather report or messaging or tracking or whatever. What is recommended?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Any of these units will work to Send and SOS. In fact, a SPOT is all that you would need. Altho, I would caution you that comm. is very helpful in situations where you need help but not SOS help. It is far more likely that you would need to do this than send out and SOS, e.g. getting good medical advice when in a critical situation and help is not immediately on its way. Best, -alan

[@gone4days956]

ACR ResQLink. Better than Spot

[@heathermoorland3302]

@@adventure_alan_co Thanks, no I am well versed in medical care so would only need to SOS

[@heathermoorland3302]

@@gone4days956 Thanks will check it out

[@katywong3469]

super helpful, thanks so much Alan! Extremely thorough. Curious what external battery pack you carry / recommend when out on the trail for multiple days?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Katy, I usually carrey something like the Anker Powercore II 10000, Ultra-Compact 10000mAh Portable Charger amzn.to/3pozD7v. I use it to charge just about all the electronics I carry including cell phone, headlamp, camera batteries, etc. Hope this helps. Warmest, -alan

[@wanderingaloudwithmark3057]

Alan thanks for the video. I own an inreach explorer plus. I will agree that the interface is very complicated to use. Sending online tracking points to people at home have not worked for me. I find the messaging very slow. Also the Garmin subscription is quite expensive. Does the somewear do real time tracking to your phone via Bluetooth?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Yes the Somewear does tracking similar to the Garmin but with a less extensive feature set and you can see you track on the map using the phone app. As to Garmin tracks up to the web, I have had like 99% successful trackpoint submission, even in canyons. Hope this helps. Wamest, -alan

[@mattg8787]

Wandering Aloud With Mark i think that when garmin took over the inReach line its gone downhill (sad) we should talk to them

[@shortscale7149]

@@mattg8787 i heard the ZOLEO will have tracking feature available sometime next year. something to watch out for.

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

Typical AT thru-hiker used their Garmin mainly as an emergency beacon and their cell phone for almost everything else. $359 is a lot for an emergency beacon.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Not all hikes are equal. Reasonable on the AT which is hardly remote or wilderness. You are never more than a few miles from a road or cell signal, and other hikers abound. Different story if you are in Alaska, Patagonia, the canyons of Utah, or significantly off trail in one of the more Major Wildernesses like the Bob, or even on a high route in the Sierras or Rockies. And I will say that I have initiated emergency evacs twice with these units. And will note that the tracking is a significant and important safety feature in remote areas. Best, -alan

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

@@adventure_alan_co True. I should have added I recognize there are situations when the tracking and other features of the Garmin are important. It’s just I see so many prospective thru-hikers get the Garmin because it’s what they see everyone else use and it’s overkill for what they would use it for. If you have a reliable emergency beacon and capability to send a message with GPS coordinates to folks back home, that’s all you need such a device for.

[@johnnywishbone932]

Zoleo for me! I don’t want to be tracked I just was to reach out. I carry a dedicated GPS I just send coordinates and you can map the numbers at home.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Nice! You have more sophisticated recipients than most folks. Best -Alan

[@beingsneaky]

we had 2 men disappear. took over a week Month at most? to find them.. unfortunately they died. now if they had the tracking thing they would have been found the day they were reported missing... and the area they disappeared is a well known area traveled hunted mushroom picking.. So i say yeah track me all you want when out in the sticks..

[@johnnywishbone932]

@@beingsneaky it’s not a ego thing. GEOS will have my coordinates and the ok button sends them. My folks know how to use them. The extra cost of the Garmin is not needed for my taste, and the Zoleo is the best for messaging. I solo hunted for years and got lost a few times. My pre plan includes mapping, on google, Polaris Ride Command, and Topo maps Canada. My Etrex is my back up to my maps. If I die well we are all gonna die but how many of us truly get to live?

[@UguysRnuts]

@@beingsneaky The Zoleo. would also have been able to assist the missing men, would it not?

[@hillrunner2]

Thank you for all that useful information on all items, it made things clear and making a decision which to purchase for specific needs. Thank you.

[@adventure_alan_co]

You are so welcome! Our pleasure. Best, -alan

[@fieldkitchen]

Great video. I would need to know the battery life in cold conditions . I am assuming they are lLiOn batteries which can go dead at -20 c so would be important to keep in your middle layers of clothing . Also moisture resistance. Will these units go dead if dropped in water etc. maybe use ziploc bags to be safe? So your video has helped me towards a decision but still need some more info. I plan to use in backwoods trekking in snow to remote ice fishing locations. So cold and moisture a concern. Thanks again. Keep those videos coming.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Per Garmin re their inReach Mini: Operating temperature range From -20° to 60°C (from -4° to 140°F). But I don't really know what battery life would be at the lower end of this temperature range. Guessing not as much as +20° C. If it were me I would likely keep the inReach in my pocket (easy to do given its size and weight) if the temperature was substantially below freezing. Best -alan

[@UguysRnuts]

I think Alan missed your waterproofness question. I read the Zoleo can be submerged for up to 30 minutes.

[@JustDo262]

Enjoyed the video Alan, thx. Can you clarify the difference between the Zoleo having a dedicated phone number and the Somewear not? I'm assuming it means you can text the Zoleo at a regular number but how would someone reply to the Somewear?

[@adventure_alan_co]

ustDo262 , the number on the Somewear (and inReach Mini) looks like a dedicated number but it isn’t. E.g. you can’t randomly send a text to that number and have it work. Yes, if you reply to the SMS that works. The difference may appear to be trivial but it isn’t and has caused a lot of confusion and frustration (e.g. somebody tried to notify you of an at home emergency and when they send a message to the “dedicated” number and it bounces, and of course you in the field have no idea it bounced). In a nutshell, if you give somebody the number you believe is your “dedicated number” they will not be able to text to it. They can only reply to an SMS thread once you have established an SMD thread and the message must be in that thread. Again this is a much bigger deal than it appears at first blush. Hope this helps to clarify things a bit, -alan

[@JustDo262]

@@adventure_alan_co Thx for the quick reply! That does sound like it could be very confusing for people trying to reach you in an emergency. Definitely an important factor to consider.

[@qulexe]

Awesome review. Can you do one on the Bivystick blue and do a side by side comparison vs your top 3 picks? I want to see where it would sit in the top 3

[@adventure_alan_co]

Still working on getting a hold of a Bivy Stick Blue. Been harder than anticipated. -a

[@qulexe]

@@adventure_alan_co Thanks! Keep up the great content!

[@dougaker5433]

Regarding the Garmin InReach Mini, how is this device recharged in the field? Do you just pop out two AA lithium batteries, and pop in new ones? I'm guessing not. So, along with the Mini, one must carry a recharging unit of some sort, am I right? If so, what is the recharging device?

[@adventure_alan_co]

The mini is recharged via a USB battery. These days most everything is like that. The advantage is that you have one USB battery to charge all your gear, even headlamp. And then you can always top everything off before a trip, so you head out with everything fully charged. Best, -alan

[@dougaker5433]

@@adventure_alan_co Thanks Alan. Appreciate your responsiveness and wisdom!

[@UguysRnuts]

I know the new Gen 4 SPOT device uses AAA batteries. They recommend lithium rechargeable ones, but any will do.

[@admun]

did you use inreach mini w/ garmin earthmate? just curios if it works better vs soewer

[@adventure_alan_co]

While the mapping functions on the inReach and Somewear are adequate (and similar), I rarely use them. Instead, I use my iPhone with GAIA GPS, It's way better. See: www.adventurealan.com/iphone-gps-map-backpacking/ warmest, -alan

[@knr1445]

Fantastic review BTW!!!!!

[@adventure_alan_co]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@jeffstone28]

Hi Alan. I'm only halfway through the video and enjoying it but am rather surprised you said you cannot send messages directly from the InReach Mini. Of course you can. You can send presets or quick texts or compose your own texts even though the interface is clunky. But at least you can do it without needing to connect to a cell phone. A question I have is do they all interact with GEOS for rescue purposes? And is the InReach Mini the only one that can engage in two-way communication with rescue services regarding the person's situation?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Doing an unscripted video, off the cuff in the field is hard and you don't always get the meaning across that you'd wish. What I was trying to say is that it was hard to COMPOSE a message with just the unit. Obviously I am aware of the 3 free message types, plus the pre-written custom messages, which aren't free but can be sent without typing - "like I am running late," or "I can't reply right now." And if absolutely needed you CAN laboriously type limited hunt and peck messages on the unit. I've done it. As to all your second question, all units support 2-way texting with rescue services. I've actually had experience with this. They DO text you back after the SOS and the first thing they asks is, "What is the nature of your Emergency." Hope this helps. Warmest, -alan

[@jeffstone28]

@@adventure_alan_co Thanks for clarifying!

[@mikehendrickson1115]

Hi Alan Excellent video Something I missed , or was passed over- Both the Somewear and Zoleo say that you are responsible for cell and data consumption in addition to their fees? How does that work? Is that a separate cell plan, or do you tie to your own phone plan? What am I missing?

[@UguysRnuts]

Charges would appear on your cell plan, if outside included features. If your plan has the capacity (free text, long distance calling, internet minutes) already, I don't think there'd be any other charges for the Wi'Fi/Cell usage.

[@Csebecke]

Thanks for this! I noticed you said the Inreach was the only one that had all the messages go through, how did the other two compare? Was there a significant percentage of checkins / messages you weren’t able to get out?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Both only missed a few messages in deep canyons. So not a high percentage of non-sends. Best, -alan

[@manofsan]

@@adventure_alan_co - does it confirm to you that a message has been sent successfully? Do unsuccessful messages get charged/counted under your account's quota?

[@UguysRnuts]

@@manofsan Seems Alan is not responding to these queries so I will take the liberty of doing so. From what I've been able to ascertain, the Zoleo is very good at informing the user of a successful transmission by both a visual and audible signal.

[@harithjones3083]

@@UguysRnuts I just sold my InReach mini. I used it in the Colorado backcountry. It did let me know when my messages were sent or not. I know because it failed to send one. I'm going to try the zoleo next.

[@Ronnieleec]

Zoleo has tracking now

[@onelegwest]

Do any of these products allow the customer to replace the battery? I'm concerned these products may last 3-5 years and then show poor battery life.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Good Q Dave. I have some inquiries to the manufactures of these units. But almost 100% sure that they are not *user* replaceable - at the very least, even if you could get a replacement battery (unlikely) it would void the warranty. I agree that the screws to open the backpanel make it tempting. That being said at least with the Garmin units, the battery life degradation over time has been slight. And I've never had a Garmin unit hobbled with really low battery life. I still have my old inReach SE and it is going strong. Hope this helps. Warmest, -alan

[@UguysRnuts]

The SPOT Gen 4 can be powered by standard AAA's

[@nedsled2994]

Great review, thank you for going over them and field testing them. The garmin does not charge you for 10min tracking points? I didn't know that I have to check. I thought when you had tracking on it was an added charge from the basic plan. I just send out mult preset messages throughout the day so my gf knows where I am on a trip.

[@adventure_alan_co]

For Garmin, the next plan up from the basic plan includes unlimited 10 minute tracking points. Best -Alan

[@nedsled2994]

@@adventure_alan_co ok thank you so much, I misunderstood thought you ment the basic plan.

[@adriangriffin5151]

Good video, Alan. I'm not sure that the inReach Mini has the most expensive data plan for users limiting their use to mostly the three preset messages. I'm considering an inReach and think my needs for keeping someone informed that I'm ok would be met by the following three messages. 1. At trailhead or at camp 2. Hiking 3. Delayed or change of route, but all is well If the messages are accompanied by a location stamp and I've left an itinerary, this would be all that's needed. So I think the safety plan at $12/month would work for this level of use. There would be overage charges only if something unusual happens, such as a need to assist an injured hiker. So the iReach could work out as cheaper than the others.

[@adventure_alan_co]

yes, as long as you only use the preset messages and don't use tracking then almost all the units would be fairly cheap to operate. But yes, the inreach would be quite cheap. And if use tracking (I do most of the time) then the mid-level inReach plan with unlimited tracking and 40 messages is a pretty durn good deal and generally what I use. Best, -alan

[@AJK0119]

Given the cost to buy and pay for subscriptions to all these units, I really appreciate you making this! You walked us through all the pros and cons for different uses. I don't need tracking, just messaging or emergency use so for the price I think the Zoleo is for me!

[@adventure_alan_co]

You are so welcome! Glad it was helpful. Best, -alan

[@eqlzr2]

A lot of these messaging devices, and the users too apparently, think that others are interested in their journey. I wonder if that's generally true? A spouse or significant other, maybe. I'm interested in these devices only from the standpoint of being able to communicate easily by text when I'm out of cell range. That's it. I think that's all my friends/family care about, too, so I can't justify spending money for the gps/tracking features. Many thanks.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Actually we see the track as an important safety feature for your emergency contact to follow your trip. In the case that you are severely injured and not able to send out an SOS your lack of movement eventually indicates a problem. And then they know exactly where to look for you. That has been our plan when doing higher risk trips like high routes, or out on the Southern Patagonia Ice shelf. But even on an average trip you could get injured where you would not be able to get a message out. But hike your own hike. So your call. Warmest, -alan.

[@eqlzr2]

@@adventure_alan_co Thanks, Alan. I'm a bit cynical, maybe, but I believe putting that much trust in an "emergency contact" may or may not be a good idea. Things can happen to emergency contacts, too, I guess. Happy Trails.

[@tjs1694]

@@eqlzr2 I just wrote a review echoing your cynicism. As a SPOT user and many trips, I can tell you that my love ones never tracked my location. I use other apps that create tracks for me at high resolution and different topo overlays.

[@Doa616]

What’s the battery life for all 3 ???

[@adventure_alan_co]

Good Q Duo. Expect around 5 days typical use form the inReach and Somewear (on all the time you are walking to record 10 minute track interval, and some additional messaging morning and evening). You'll get more like 14+ days of use out of the Zoleo but that's because we assume you won't leave it on all day but just use it to message morning, lunch, and evening, and get a few weather reports. As such, the Zole is not on all that much time nor does it send as many messages. Hope this helps. Warmest, -alan

[@againstthegrain786]

You said the inreach was the only unit to get all messages out. How many times did the zoleo fail?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Around 2 or 3. But in a deep canyon where it was challenged. inReach got its message out first try. Best, -alan

[@UguysRnuts]

@@adventure_alan_co Google the story about the New Zealander who used his Garmin Mini to send an SOS and it completely failed. Garmin is not perfect either.

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

Weight difference between the Zoleo and Garmin is only 2.8 oz.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Your are right Christopher, that is a significant difference. Almost double the weight of the Garmin. Best, -alan

[@Ramon-du7jv]

Thank you for the in depth review! Im looking for something to use in the US! I do a lot of off roading and overlanding! But i also use Gaia as my active mapping! Im really just looking for something to send messages and potentially an Sos! What would you recommend! Because im going to trust your knowledge and buy the one you recommend based on the parameters i gave you! Thank you!

[@adventure_alan_co]

Glad it was helpful! I guess the Q I have for you is how important is seamless connectivity. That is seamless WiFi, to Cell, to Sat that is transparent to you and whoever you are messaging or is tracking your trip. If that is important (and might well be overlanding) I would go with the Zoleo or the Somewear. If not, I would go with the inReach Mini. Best, -alan

[@Ramon-du7jv]

@@adventure_alan_co well sir! The seamless to me doesnt matter because because if im in service im going to use my phone! I just want something to text with if i lose service and to send SOS

[@SeattleRingHunter]

After watching the whole review I am quite surprised you never touched on battery life comparisons. I would think the Zoleo even tough big and bulky out of the three it has the largest battery capacity maybe same as Somewhere. Of course like anything application and user needs will dictate the best unit. I actually think in the Pacific North West for day hikers and visiting some of our smaller obscure communities the Zoleo is a great companion for sending I'm OK message back home. Especially for people participating in water sports or more technical adventure activities where loved ones can become concerned. Your review really provided a better overview of the three device offerings. Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter

[@adventure_alan_co]

Good Q Jeff. First, apologies for the late response I have been in the Alaska north of the Arctic Circle for a couple of weeks. Expect around 5 days typical use form the inReach and Somewear (on all the time you are walking to record 10 minute track interval, and some additional messaging morning and evening). You'll get more like 14+ days of use out of the Zoleo but that's because we assume you won't leave it on all day but just use it to message morning, lunch, and evening, and get a few weather reports. As such, the Zole is not on all that much time nor does it send as many messages. Hope this helps. Warmest, -alan

[@cambodianrefugee6305]

Will the zoleo at least give lat lon embedded into a text so whoever you send the message to can cut and paste it into a mapping app?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Jeff the following is a Zoleo message: "Check-in message from AdvAlan Zoleo ZOLEO Device Details Device: AdvAlan Zoleo Message: I'm OK. My location is 38.98749, -77.03243 Check-in sent at: 20 May 2020 00:26:33 (UTC)" So yes. Best, -alan

[@cambodianrefugee6305]

@@adventure_alan_co brilliant! Thank you Sir.

[@JRoss707]

@@adventure_alan_co I ran those coordinates on Google maps and it says you are in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean . Lol I’m sure I’m doing something wrong.

[@swashfrogsailor]

@@adventure_alan_cothis reply changes everything. I was left with the impression that ZOLEO does nothing but messaging, but if it can automatically include a lat/long position within a check-in, that’s hugely significant.

[@Rich65501]

Exceptional review. Thanks

[@adventure_alan_co]

Glad it was helpful Rich. Warmest, -alan

[@ericcarlson917]

Does receiving messages count against your quotas, or just sending. Would sending a message on Zoleo include a location as single message against quota? I am most wanting SOS emergency and "honey I'm good" feature for solo travel on dual sport motorcycle travel.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Eric, it depends. Almost all incoming messages count against your quota not matter which company you use. In the case of Garmin your 3 preset messages do not count against your quota. Tracking messages are an additional flat rate charge (plan change) for the Garmin but once paid they are unlimited. For the Somewear each tack point counts against you message quota. And the Zoleo does not have tracking points. Hope this helps. Best, -alan

[@samperkins1657]

Any thoughts on the Bivy Stick?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Current model is too heavy. New BivyStick Blue looks very promising and we are going to be one of the very first to get a review unit. Stay tuned. Warmes, -alan

[@caromiri6637]

Is the Zoleo available in Europe?

[@adventure_alan_co]

I don't know about purchasing the unit in the EU. But once you own it coverage is world wide. Best, -alan

[@cambodianrefugee6305]

Thank! Very thorough review

[@adventure_alan_co]

Our pleasure Jeff. Warmest, -alan

[@lt2246]

Hi I was wondering if you have experience with both the Garmin inReach apps Earthmate vs Garmin Explore app? If so which is better from your experience?

[@adventure_alan_co]

Earthmate App is fine for messaging and tracking. I don't use the Explore App at all. But for most navigation and GPS work I use GAIA GPS www.adventurealan.com/huge-improvements-next-gen-gaia-gps-hiking-app/. Best, -alan

[@seansteede]

I have an InReach - not a fan of the interface on the device or Garmin's Earthmate App, or the web interface. I've ordered a Zoleo as that only use I have is communication so looking forward to receiving. For planning routes, recording tracks etc - I use Gaia GPS app on my phone - the website planning is excellent as well. The only thing I have to remember is to bring additional battery packs!

[@adventure_alan_co]

Nice approach Sean. Warmest, -alan

[@seansteede]

@@adventure_alan_co Tks Alan - first tests os Zoleo for me are excellent - I totally understand your review now. Even the "check-in" test arrived with comment "location could not be provided". But all other test messages by cell / wifi / satellite were perfect. Messages initiated by friends and family well received as well which was key sales point. Since location failed on check in - my guess is that messages are ok to send with less than 3 satellites in view, while location has to have 3 in order to triangulate. Reconfirms this is best only for those that are communication focused as opposed to full features of location / tracking / route planning etc. Really appreciate your review.

[@UguysRnuts]

Instead of multiple power banks you could bring a solar charger.

[@seansteede]

@@UguysRnuts Sure, might work in the summer up here, but much of my outdoors activity is in the Pacific Northwest usually in the forest under a tree canopy. I could see that as a great option for other locations though.

[@SeattleRingHunter]

Great review Alan. Thanks for taking the time to share all your experiences and details on these units. Cheers, #SeattleRingHunter

[@adventure_alan_co]

My pleasure! Jeff

[@neemancallender9092]

Just spoke to ZOLEO They are only in the USA, Canada, and Australia So to be polite useless for your overseas viewer

[@adventure_alan_co]

Garmin works world-wide or pretty close to it. Best, -alan

[@ChristopherMarshburn]

Garmin tracking is overrated advantage. Zoleo has this function: Check-in Button Easily check in with one button press to let others know you’re OK. Your check-in message will be sent to your check-in contact(s). You can also include your GPS coordinates if desired. ZOLEO makes it easy to let them know you’re OK so they rest easy.

[@adventure_alan_co]

As a guide for remote areas like Alaska, the canyons of Utah and other wild and remote areas - and doing my own remote trips in Patagonia and other places around the world - I will note that automatic tracking (sending out waypoints every 10 minutes) is a significant and important safety feature in these remote areas. The Zoleo does not do this. Best, -alan

[@MrLabradorwildman]

Hi just found your channel and i have Subscribed, great info. I have a question for you? I have the Spot X before all hell brakes loose, the Spot X works for me! Due to using your Phone in lowest i snowshoe in is -35C which is -31F training to get your phone to work and with gloves just brutal. The Question is on all three can you change the SOS profile Message on the app or have to go to a computer to change it. Let me explain and no you can not do it on the Spot X you could on the Gen3. I had ten SOS profiles set up for different areas when hiking so the SOS message was different to help the GEOS HQ and the people on the ground ie the local police number, the people in the area who knows want trail i am hiking on if the police do not speak English .Ok i i have the info on want i have with me and i carry pen flares but the areas more detail just calling 911 dose not help for where i am which is Labrador Canada the more info you can give on the SOS Profile the better it all helps to save lives.I do hope i explained my self ie one hike i am in Labrador the next day i am in Quebec for a hike so need to change the SOS message details.Thanks for your time dave from Labrador City,Labrador Canada

[@codemangleason3986]

You should be paid for Your Testing

[@beingsneaky]

we had 2 men disappear. took over a week Month at most? to find them.. unfortunately they died. now if they had the tracking thing they would have been found the day they were reported missing... and the area they disappeared is a well known area traveled hunted mushroom picking.. So i say yeah track me all you want when out in the sticks..

[@adventure_alan_co]

Amen to carrying a Satellite Messenger. Best, -alan

[@denisesarazin6753]

This video is outdated. Zoleo has tracking.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Just added a new video review of the ZOLEO. Covers tracking (Location Share+) and the new Progressive SOS Alerting.

[@TylerCNatureTy]

Watch at 2x speed

[@vitaminb4869]

Who cares about seamless messaging. If I'm in town with normal cell service, I am not going to use a satellite communicator app to send messages. When I'm in the backcountry with no service, then that's the only time I'd use the satellite communicator. I don't care about the "seamless" messaging, that's an utter gimmick. Also, who cares about tracking that is done every 2-10 minutes? Everyone has a proper GPS device that does all the tracking much superior to any of these sat comms. You can send your location if desired, but tracking is another gimmick. The only thing important is that it can send an SOS, and send free preset messages. The rest is completely irrelevant.

[@adventure_alan_co]

Vitamin, if you are trying to keep in touch continuously from airport, to trailhead, and then off trail (especially in a foreign country - or any area dubious safety, could even be in the US) the seamless connectivity can make things so, so much simpler for you and the person(s) tracking you to make sure you are safe. It really is a benefit and ads safety. And we do believe that autonomous tracking does add safety. That is if there is serious problem and you are unable to activate the SOS, your emergency contact will be able to discern you are not moving and know your last location. Finally it's always nice to have a backup GPS track of where you've been (and the inReach is super efficient at this). We use this function all the time when scouting out new routes. Best, -alan