GATLAND'S FINAL TEAM? | WALES vs SOUTH AFRICA | SELECTION REACTION

Are we watching the end of one of the most distinguished international coaching careers in the professional era? Is THIS Warren Gatland's final selection as Wales' Head Coach? And how could they cause one of the biggest upsets we've seen?

[@tims1542]

Whatever happens this weekend, us south Africans know and understand how tough the last few years have been for the Welsh rugby team. We respect the people, their beautiful country, and the game we love ❤

[@pietiebeyers5237]

👏👏👌

[@peteryoungpeteryoung965]

Well said thank you.

[@123coining123]

Thanks much appreciated, do you have any spare players, you gave some to Scotland

[@tims1542]

Thanks for the comments, guys. And yes I'm sure we would happily share with you guys. In fact, it's only your neighbours across the Prince of Wales bridge that we don't have much time for 😆😆🤣🤣

[@neilcooper9508]

Well said mate neil england

[@yesyoucan76]

No matter what happens this weekend, We South Africans respect the Welsh Rugby Team and Warren Gatland. I lived in South Wales, (Bridgend) for 5 years. What a beautiful country, warm friendly people. I have made some incredibly good friends to this day when I lived in South Wales. The wheel will turn for the Welsh rugby team. Looking forward to a great match!

[@DisAstra-qx9gq]

Hopefully your right but looking at the youth coming through very few look capable of stepping up to European rugby let alone international level

[@neilcooper9508]

Well I'm english I respect that message albeit english best of luck both nations

[@hermancloete6962]

We wish Wales all the best and hope for an entertaining game. With respect from SA

[@Jesus_is_Lord_316]

Agreed!! With sincere condolences from SA

[@buhlefadana3376]

Every time we've said Springboks are going to batter a team the score has been closer than we would have liked 😅

[@WyndhamPGP]

Agreed. It's time the Boks clicked and put up 70 points.

[@Forest9528]

Your completely right Means they are overdue a massive score. 70 points maybe

[@jamesgill9223]

Wales will get destroyed mate those close game days are gone!

[@tshepangmoletsane1866]

I will hand over my resignation letter on Saturday if the Boks don't put a 80 point defeat to Wales out of all teams.

[@AC-hu3xk]

Agreed

[@Kid_Senekal]

Wales are a proud nation, sure the players will do themselves & their families proud. I hope a nice polished Bok performance with no injuries 🇿🇦

[@RozWentworth]

Saffa here...Trust both teams will turn up on the day...lets go not underestimate our opponents...any team can have an off day...lets go🎉🎉🎉

[@FirstbornWallus-fk5nq]

Off 5 years

[@RozWentworth]

@FirstbornWallus-fk5nq no man...lol...lets encourage the players

[@jojomasipa379]

​@FirstbornWallus-fk5nq Dude we lost to Japan IN A WORLD CUP. We know where you are, but Wales has too much pride to just roll over and play dead. Never give up on your team.

[@RozWentworth]

@jojomasipa379 hear you...lets hope Wales and AmabokBokkw turn up on Saturday for a good show

[@ShaunieManutdfan-ti7xo]

Saffa here living in US, love your channel Tim! Thank you for all your hard work. Don’t know what it is but every team we play seem to lift themselves when they play us, we should on paper give a team a real hiding but then they always come out and play well. So who knows what type of wales we gonna get, could it be wales best performance in 12 games..

[@RabbitWhiteThe]

Hey brother! SA man here as well. Husband and Father of 2. If I may ask, how did you get to US. I have wanted to immigrate with my family, and it's soo tough. Need a better life for my kids. Let me know, I'd love to explore avenues

[@Tarrimaster]

I'm taking my 5-year-old daughter to this game. Her very first one, hope the Bokke perform! She's sad there's no Faf playing though.

[@naushadcassim2698]

As a rugby fan in general, hate to see Wales in the state they in currently. Imagine being a Welsh player on the field and come the 50th minute you see Marx Koch Etzebeth Snyman and Pollard enter the field 😂 and to add insult to injury .. Hanekom coming on too. I see an absolute beating come here. 🇿🇦 by 40+

[@thehum1000]

Doubt they would feel the same about England 😂

[@Rotowhaka]

​Not only Wales but any international team seeing that lot of replacements coming on I see a real ugly beating this weekend, unless there is a combination of prematch food poisioning (sorry AB supporters) local young ladies showing the springboks a good time, and the TMO handing a few red cards, for such reason as having to much speed, skill and overall strength,@@thehum1000

[@123coining123]

Only 40+ us Welsh are also worried about injuries as its coming up to the six nations.

[@WayneMorgan-u9p]

50pt margin at least. Wales playing for pride and rising to the task in hand is the only way they keep the Boks under 30pts. Enjoy

[@freddiemmc9251]

Careful Tim. Motivation is so critical in rugby that don’t be surprised if it’s a very close result. Rassie however can read complacency in his side and usually intervenes before match day. We’ll see.

[@fredlenz4743]

This is the type of game the Springboks don't turn up for. So the result is not cut and dry.

[@l8on17]

Hi Tim, As a Welshman regardless I go to every home game when I’m not deployed away, the last game was really sad, stadium was almost half empty with 15 minutes to go. Gatland is not a bad coach at all, he’s been amazing, I do think he’s partly to blame as well as Pivac, not blooding players relying on the same players all the time, we’re now here with multiple resignations with such a inexperienced squad. Also, as I said Gatland is not a bad coach, but his focus was on the international team, he had too much control, the Regions had and still has little to no relationship and since Gatland has left Wales after the 2019 RWC, this is staggering by the way He had 14 games with Waikato Chief with 10 losses 9 of them consecutive. He’s had 23 tests with Wales 7 wins with 11 consecutive losses So 37 games he’s won 11 games I think Gatlands success was largely due to Shaun Edwards yet the WRU refused to renew Edwards contract 🤦🏻😱

[@IronCurtainTwitcher]

you mean Shaun Edwards the defensive coach for France who just beat a resurgent all blacks, Shaun Edwards one of the greatest rugby league players, who offered years of devoted service and success to Wales and was rewarded with not even a sniff of a contract, golly gosh far too working class and straight for the WRU old bean

[@geraldnaicker262]

Hey Tim. The game has yet to be played and as we all know, Wales has always been our banana peel side. No serious injuries and a good game of Rugby. Bok fan from Cpt. 🎉

[@jacosnyman2393]

As a Saffa, I have allot of respect for the Dragons. Also allot of respect for their coach. Cant be easy for Gatland but as rugby lovers we still respect our counter parts, no matter the country. I foresee a good game, the Wales team are a proud team, they will overcome this hurdle going forward.

[@maniebotha6342]

In my opinion the Welsh team will show up on Saturday. I am a Springbok supporter for life, but I've learnt over the years to never write off any opposition. Wales might not win, but they will leave everything out there. Remember that SA has not really played to their full potential on this tour, and should they be complacent they might be in for a huge surprise. The fans will be there in their thousands, the atmosphere will be electric, the stage will be set for a very nice game. I hope so, nobody wants to see a runaway score in a test like this.

[@WyndhamPGP]

My wishlist for the weekend: Boks win well 🇿🇦👍, Australia edge Scotland and finally, I would love to see the Argies win in France. With the year Argentina have had, it would be fitting imho.

[@clivenichols5770]

No way Argentina are going to beat France

[@Zveebo]

France have looked very strong. Unless they have a really bad day at the office, they should comfortably win over the Argies. Though I’m sure we’ll get something special from JC Mallía in there.

[@jojomasipa379]

Argentina has beaten the Boks this year. You never know. They have flair and can be insanely creative. I would also love an Argentinian win.

[@WyndhamPGP]

@jojomasipa379 they also beat the ABs in NZ. That takes some doing!

[@HarryNye]

To underscore the immense respect Gatland commands in Wales, it's worth noting that he holds an honorary fellowship from Cardiff University, an honorary doctorate from the University of South Wales, and an honorary degree from Swansea University. It is so sad to see such a fall from grace; yet, this decline perhaps more starkly reflects the dire state of Welsh rugby as a whole rather than being a direct consequence of Gatland's actions.

[@joshuaaustin5647]

Springboks being huge favourites means the Springboks are going to make this a tight game. 😂

[@timproome4296]

Yeah, and all cardiologists in SA rubbing their hands as they await more Bok supporter ECGs on Monday 😂 I love the Boks but man they can drive the adrenaline levels up in us.

[@johnmurray2995]

Rassie plays 4D chess and experiments with playing Wales with only ten players in the second half ("we're trying to see how the boys respond if we have a bout of food poisoning from the halftime oranges"). Wales win a classic contest by a point. Gatland is saved. Come the next World Cup, Wales play South Africa, but this time sneaky old Rassie field fifteen players for the whole game . . . he is once again hailed as a genius rugby mind.

[@samjoseph7454]

Whether or not you think Gatland should go, unless you’re a Welsh fan you’ll never truly understand what he has meant to Wales and how much Welsh Rugby still means to him. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@mybadgaming6786]

Its so sad that Wales is in this state. I remember a time when I did not know who will win between Springboks and Wales.

[@johannbarkhuizen2528]

I cannot imagine living in a time where Wales becomes irrelevant in rugby. I really hope they can sort out their internal issues.

[@stevenenslin7259]

Thanks Tim for the break down.

[@greenplasticgun]

Us Bok supporters will never, ever, underestimate Wales. It’s been far too close far too often.

[@oraclis4892]

As a Springbok supporter I am not overly confident. Yes, on paper we are the better team. But the game is not played on paper, it is played on a rugby field

[@henrypretorius1440]

Wales will have to build a new young team. Like Jake White did with the Springboks. It will be painful at times, but they will definitely get better and will be a great contender at the World Cup 2027. Never underestimate any team, especially a young team playing for their country with something to prove for a permanent position in the national team

[@ruanniemann1678]

Calm down everyone. The Welsh are a proud unit with nothing to lose. This game still has to be played.

[@RozWentworth]

Exactly...agree

[@Wall1s_]

I agree.

[@craigsparks1442]

I laugh they beat the boks, us SA folks are starting to sound like all blacks fans... Way too cocky

[@jacosnyman2393]

Jip....the Boks need to keep their feet on the ground.

[@randomlyfactual1943]

Amen. I'm not a fan of the arrogance from the fans

[@JahnBeukesMusic]

Jeez, Tim. Opening line was a bit harsh, mate?! Nonetheless, we're not taking this game for granted. Having said that, you're bloody jinxing us! Boks by 15, or 45, depending on wether or not we forget the most infamous Bok Rugby jinx of all time: Japan. We learned our lesson there, I can tell you. No team gets taken for granted by the Bokke. (I hope we put 60 past them, but that would be jinxing. Cheers from SA, mate!)

[@martinprinsloo541]

Let’s not underestimate a team who has nothing to lose.

[@muzintombela8257]

What do you say to the players in this situation. How do you motivate them to get up and risk their life's again and again. This is hard, but professionalism is the key. Hope they make an account of them selves. Good luck to Wales. Springboks supporter here

[@RozWentworth]

Ai man...ek voel dieselfde...ons moet nie arrogant rank nie...wish it's not a one sided game, and both teams show up on the day

[@johnrice3882]

You threaten their families 😂

[@jboi903]

Not sure if you mentioned it Tim but I think I heard the WRU has a release clause for after the 2025 6 nations with Gatland. Meaning they'd avoid a big payout if he left after that. Could mean he stays?

[@colingibson5966]

It was a bad mistake for him to come back. Gatland had a real legacy at Wales and a decent rep accross the game from his 1st stint with Wales. Its tarnished now, when people look back and see Wales worst losing streak and heavy defeats his name will be there.

[@bertiewooles3093]

There are certainly people in the WRU I would like to see go before Gats. Blair Murray is about to get some real experience at fullback

[@marelizemeier]

I understand Rassie growing two squads. But what’s annoying is that we make too many changes and lose some momentum. We’ve been mistake strewn due to changes. I’d love to see 1 Bok team on all these games. We’re still winning though.

[@thenomad47]

Well, it could bring us a MASSIVE benefit in the years to come. If the Boks get used to just rotating players non-stop to the point that it doesn't affect the game standard of the boks, then come the 2027 World Cup we can just quite frankly (and to put it a bit crudely) throw bodies at the Problematic opposition teams until they just go away, and then march right into the World Cup Final with a completely fresh team that's just as good and well rested as the team that started the World Cup in the Pool Stages, while whomever is going up against us has more than likely attritioned away their best players due to possible injury, or just quite simply fatigue from the high intensity back-to-back nonstop matches that essentially is the World Cup

[@cliffardgerber3830]

Alot of the 2x wc winners are 32 33. We need the new blood get the expierance. And we still win. No complains about the 2x wc winner coach

[@deonstidwell3273]

Gatland has never been a friend of SA rugby. He was a major player in rule changes that had a negative effect on the SA game. No tears if he resigns...

[@mauricerobertson1944]

True words

[@JayzVeez]

Yep. I've never liked Gatland. Always bad mouthing SA. Good riddance.

[@antonstrydom9086]

​@@JayzVeezAgreed, I am hoping for a spectacular send off for him

[@peterrowley6016]

Good honest assessment , who replaces Gatland ?

[@emporatikatrox]

I'm going to the game as an SA fan who has never seen a Bok winning game despite having been to 4, amongst that is the Brighton game, I swear to god if im the bad luck charm all Bok fans can come for me at this point

[@BiltonginParis]

Can you still sell your ticket? I would prefer if you watch on TV

[@JayzVeez]

​@@BiltonginParis😂😂

[@liamferreira8912]

As a South African, and moreover a rugby fan, I have learnt a couple of things. And one is to NEVER underestimate the Welsh. They now stand backed into a corner, and will be frothing to end this year well with a win over the world’s top ranked team. This game will be all or nothing for them and I won’t be surprised if they give it serious horns. No reason to come here complacent.

[@StopTheRot]

Although I agree with your comment about Wales’ bench, I do think that Smith, Thomas, Reffell and Hathaway all have good potential, and Eddie James is potentially world-beating.

[@talana9771]

Of course I want my Boks to win but wishing both teams the best. Never underestimate any team.

[@kobusvorster6923]

We SA fans have alot of respect for Wales. Lets hope things get better fot them

[@GWLAD]

We’ve just got to get into them and keep trying end of 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼❤️

[@Bobbydyland]

I was at the 2015 Japan game (You know the game I mean). I'll never write off any team against the boks after that. Wales have nothing to lose, These players can just have a go, everyone expects 50 pointers.

[@kslice810]

That 2015 Japan team thumps this Wales team by 25+ points..

[@victordastile5204]

😴😴😴😴😴

[@Yard128]

That was the worst Boks team in living history (all credit to Japan still). Of course there can be a surprise result but there is not a single area that Wales are ahead of South Africa.

[@theborgster8497]

I wouldn't bet on a huge score line, I reckon Wales will show up as they usually do against the boks

[@b.d.erasmus6109]

Cmon guys... the Welsh will want to put up a good performance against the Boks.. I believe it's going to be tighter than we all think.. But damn, I would love a proper performance from our boys in green!

[@jeanm27]

A wounded animal with its back against the wall is really dangerous, so let's rather see what happens on the day. The Springboks has some untested combinations as well which might be exploited now and then

[@mrtomas0990]

This isn't a wounded animal...More like road kill

[@ladybugm6872]

Shoo but we respect the Welsh, play with heart, we can't take them for granted

[@WellnessWithWarren]

That was scary looking at your combined team, and I really am wishing for Wales to put up a good fight on Sat. Because I like what I see in some of their youngsters, it's just such a shame that even Dyer has such a win-loss record, let alone the rest of the squad.. that record will definitely mess with your head. 😒

[@jojomasipa379]

I dont want to ever wright off a team. Any team can be surprised on the day. The Boks need to stay focused without any arrogance. Springboks - you play your best and be humble. Wales may be un a slump, but I truly hope they give a performance that surprises everybody. I am onviously a SAFFA so the Springboks is my team, but I wish Wales a good game. They will rise again.

[@crazycjk]

If Gatland leaves, I very much see it as being his decision as opposed to the WRU's. Then again, he may go down as scapegoat. Hope Wales turn up firing on all cylinders and at least don't get thrashed, good luck to both teams

[@MatthewScheepers-p5n]

Some of us Bok fans can be so pessimistic. We should expect them to put a big score on this welsh side. Its not disrespect, its just the reality of the two teams at the moment. Even when the boks have had off games this year, they have always been in the fight and the 2 games they have lost have been by 1 point. The last two meetings between the two teams have been 41 - 13 and 52 - 16. It has not been close the past 2 years nor will it be this game.

[@stensonsimmons1194]

Hi Tim, Rugby is a sport afterall and emotions aside Wales has been a very proud Rugby nation and they will be again. The players no doubt know they are up against it with the boks but rugby players also play with pride and determination. Wales will pitch up and give their best and I hope it turns out to be a good game.

[@patrickhorgan8389]

Spot on. Wales are a proud rugby nation.

[@gideonvanniekerk4252]

Dewi Lake always gives his best 👏🏻

[@eversor10]

100 points for SA COME ON 🇿🇦

[@peterjordaan1688]

It would be interesting to see your selection of an A, B and C team from the 50 odd SA squad. No benches.

[@jonwright4719]

Tim, you know RU, agree that Gats is a legend- loved Wales in the 70's (as an Englishman) there are still some very good Welsh players and shame Adam Beard isn't available. New coach for the 6Nations but then sort out the 4 regions or wahtever you call them- Is the Celtic League good for Welsh Rugby- wouldn't you Welsh guys rather play Glos- Bristol, Bath, Exeter (half Welsh/SA) travel to that London for Sarries/ Quins (Maybe get Wasps and Worcester going again in Championship with the Welsh regions starting a new 2 Division Eng/Welsh Prem where top 4 in each Div go into the finals ??)

[@dylandaniels759]

The Principality Stadium roof will be closed for all three of Wales' upcoming Autumn Nations series matches, the Welsh Rugby Union has confirmed. Not even the rain will be able to help Wales😢

[@abeaslan7603]

Wales will get better we as boks fans have been there… proud rugby nation Wales good luck…

[@joshhunter1129]

The worst thing for Wales is the Boks still haven’t played a full game. Rassie still be going through them and I feel this could be the full game for the first time

[@mrtomas0990]

Time to walk out of Gatland's Gate for the last time...hand over the keys on the way out!

[@lonederanger2603]

And the next coach won't be far behind him, or the coach after that. Until the WRU start realising that you create professional rugby player from a young age, not sit around twiddling your thumbs hoping and preying some turn up eventually. The WRU are an overpaid gaggle of amateurs in charge of running a professional sport. They just are not up to the task.

[@JohnRees-ig7bo]

Reality is it’s almost never a great idea to go back. As a proud Welshman who lived through the glory years of the 70’s I think the problems with Welsh rugby run deeper than the coach. The fabric of Welsh society has changed as rugby became professional and the WRU has not adapted to the new reality. Warren is a proud and honourable man but no one would blame him for calling it a day.

[@lonwabiso1]

After watching the last match at the Principality..Boks cannot underestimate Wales and Boks need go Hard

[@neillewis9888]

Great video 👍🏽, what tickled me even as a 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 was the pity & if not apathy certainly acceptance of how 💩 we are 😂

[@Lukesummers94]

I feel like people are way too harsh on Sam Costello. Personally would have started Anscombe like Tim mentioned just due to the experience factor but those who are calling for Sheedy and Ioan Lloyd kill me. Never been impressed by Sheedy and Lloyd is a fun watch but, doesn't have the boot to play as an international 10. Also I think Costello has played with anout 7/8 different 9's and he only has 17 caps himself, can't help him at all. Do I think Costello is Wales 10 for the next 10 years? No not really but I would persist with him, at least until Dan Edwards is ready to have a go if he keeps his development up.

[@howardjones1180]

Is it going to be his final selection? I bloody hope so. He’s done nothing good since 2016. Lions 2017 was awfully managed. Lions 2021 was dreadful. Chiefs - awful. Wales - nothing great since 2016, really. WC 2019 was good in the groups stages and then a shambles against a poor France before clinging on against SA. WC 2023 was impossible to judge given Eddie was managing Oz, and we were very lucky to get past Fiji. I agree with you - he doesn’t need it. Just go. And hopefully he doesn’t rinse us on the way out. The selection’s mental. Makes FA sense. He’s gone. Send him away.

[@2msystems740]

The question is... If the Boks do not win by 50 or more, what does it say of the Boks. This is boys against men, no slight intended.

[@DirkCoetzee1982]

Just a reminder less than 5 months ago, an understrenght Bok team beat Wales 41-13 at Twickenham

[@joeritchie2]

Tim, your chart misspells the Hendrikse brothers’ surname. There’s no “c” there.

[@BruceMacgregorCampbell]

I just hope the Bok team aren't going onto the field with this same mindset, Tim. That semi -final in 2019 is still fresh in our South African memories. We want an emphatic victory, with our boys playing champagne, flawless, ruthless rugby, sure - but those tough Welsh boys have a way of stuffing plans up.

[@Graham159871]

I would be so surprised with a Wales win this weekend I cant even come up with something that would surprise me more

[@Goggawie]

True

[@divotdigger247]

Give me Grobbelaar and Hanekom as well. Keep your Lake and Reffell, thank you

[@Jesus_is_Lord_316]

The problem with our Boks, sadly, is that when they play 2nd rate teams, their own standard of play drops. Having said that, it would be great for Boks to end the year on a super high!!

[@forwardpass2725]

"Rock bottom has a basement." The title of a Welsh rugby podcast

[@vitamingreen4815]

I really feel sorry for the Wales team. Not because they're playing the boks, just because of where they currently find themselves. If I were them, I'd just play a defensive territory game. Absolutely no loose game.

[@HiltonJohani]

Crushed 😂😂😂😂 ha Tim shem - truth is the truth

[@mrRoetser]

Classic banana skin this. Wales have nothing to lose and all to play for. Makes them dangerous and me very nervous!

[@theoroma6883]

Maybe the Welsh can claim all the players with a Williams surname?

[@Goggawie]

Ok. As long as we keep the brothers

[@RobinMarcPhillips]

Hi, Wales have problems, upset?? I don't think so, Tassie continues the pain!!!!❤😢

[@RugbyLad-x3p]

also I saw somewhere in south african media OX might drop out of the 23

[@dan15000]

Is Wainwright and Winnett injured? Can’t understand why they’d be dropped

[@HRI_HK1]

That intro 😅

[@joebloggs1356]

Gatland has been a great friend to Wales Rugby, he did his best. As successful NZ coach and Ireland coach, he's done it all. I wish only good things for him and Welsh Rugby.

[@joebloggs1356]

Ps South Africa cant impact their positions in the rankings due to the system. Its purely an old fashioned test with zero at steak.

[@ryanbevan3488]

Only change I'd make to the combined 23 is Jac Morgan at 7. Had it been Steph Du Toit no chance and admittedly not seen huge amounts of Louw and probably going more off Jac's performances in the World Cup but he is probably our only other player of genuine International quality we have right now. That being said I'll still put on my Jersey and sit through the entire 80 minutes (never have and never will leave early) clinging on to the 0.00000000001% we might actually do something incredible.

[@EggchasersRugby]

Fair. Although with SA their openside flanker wears 6 so I was comparing with Siya Kolisi.

[@ryanbevan3488]

@EggchasersRugby understandable. Always seen Jac as more of a 6.5 anyway and then Reffell the out and out 7 (Agree we missed his jackal threat massively against Aus, couldn't slow their ball down at all)

[@RobinMarcPhillips]

Rassie has made a job of winning all the time, not just world cups!!!!!❤😅

[@mikerochford1]

How many of these would make a combined team? Possibly Dewi Lake?

[@mikerochford1]

Haha - should have finished the video before commenting - sorry!

[@nevillepieterse9983]

Not in the bok team though

[@hermannwaschefort3891]

Tim you are brave choosing Refell above Hanekom. Hanekom will become a world player of the year in the next few years.

[@EggchasersRugby]

I've said many times what a talent he is. Only being fair to guys who've played international rugby before.

[@JohnRidley12]

can anyone tell me what was wrong with Rhys Patchell? Always looked class to me And what happened to that quality young FH from a few years ago, Sam Davies?

[@sizwev]

You really dont rate Mbonambi hey Tim. I wonder how many 15s you've picked that hes been a part of

[@EggchasersRugby]

Mbonambi isn't playing.

[@mikeward7812]

Gats is the best coach for Wales. He should not be the fall guy for short minded WRU Committee. Give him what he needs to restructure and dump the cap rule to increase the player pool.

[@derekfelton8287]

Aaaah but the Welsh can sing laddy

[@michaelackwellcollins8740]

I'd probably switch Rogers and Murray IMO Rogers more solid defensiveness and great under the high ball

[@justinstephenson9360]

Let me start with the forwards. G Thomas has never let Wales down, he is the best that Wales have, and he is just not good enough, Nicky Smith is arguably a better scrummager but has never put in a performance at international level to demand the shirt. Dewi Lake is a good international hooker, but the back up in Elias is demonstrably not, he would be if he could fix his throwing in issues but has never managed to do so and I think it is too late for him. Griffin though has the potential to be a high quality international TH, he is young and inexperienced so this will be a massive learning experience for him. The second row combination is a promising blend of bulk and athleticism, and if Freddy Thomas gets a decent run out to show he has international quality then Wales will have 4 good international locks in Rowlands, Jenkins, Thomas and Tshiunza - Beard is not international quality. The back row is a problem. Ideally I would play Reffell and Morgan to really make the break down a lottery for SA, problem is that leaves Wales a bit short of power in the pack and in the loose - you would need a much bigger more powerful front 5 to play both on the flanks. Botham is a decent player at 6 but is he really international standard? I see Plumtree as more of a 6 with Wainwright at 8 The problem is that the pack is going to be melted by the SA pack. Whatever the qualities of the back line will not matter, they are going to be run over by the herd of Wildebeest that is the SA pack

[@mariusmarais9750]

Just bring Gatland to the Gallows, same team slogan this week at the Bok camp, as with Foster and Jones, he will follow the same route. No pity for him, he was the back stabber, shit talker on the nick berry saga. Like foster and jones had way to much to say. Now the coach slayer Erasmus is at his doore. As I know Rassie Erasmus since 91, this Saturday the Boks will play for him the coach, and end gatlands international coaching career. Goodbye Gats.

[@mariusmarais9750]

And this Saturday, is not about 60 or 80 points against Wales, is about giving the last members also playing time, but to make sure the party afterwards is on for sending another international coach packing. And good riddance for Wales, now they can get a coach with player relationships. Lasty, never forget for one moment the Boks, played 2024 with 54 different players, more than 3 teams in player numbers, not one Saturday the same team, at least 5 changes per team. Any other international team is all ready 1 year behind depth development, player alignment and squad building. Any person thinks that Rassie Erasmus is not yet busy with prep work for 2027 must go and watch darts. Every thing is infront off your eyes, just look.

[@deancarpenter1575]

like sam warburton said who will come in if gats goes, he,ll still inherit that team, and the diabolical state the WRU has left welsh rugby in, and as a proud welshman its not going to get better anytime soon, sam warburton would,nt say it on live tv, but i can...welsh rugby is in a hell of a state..

[@joeritchie2]

There could be a slight danger of overconfidence in the Springbok camp, though that really isn’t in this squad’s DNA.

[@Cuchulainn666]

Irish fan here, ive watched a good bit of both these teams recently and I worry for wales. Their forwards are actually solid but they have probably the worst backs in international rugby. Costello, winnett, thomas all decent at club level but will get ran over at int level

[@Baz-h9h]

Just had a vision, Wales will win 29-27. In 2017, my last vision was the Boks winning the world cup in 2019...

[@gertusvandervyver2190]

20/20 vision?

[@alexiachamberlin8019]

Stay off the shrooms

[@OCD-Gamer]

put some money on it😂

[@Baz-h9h]

@OCD-Gamer I might just...should have for 2019 back in 2017...

[@OCD-Gamer]

@@Baz-h9h Youll make a fecking fortune if they win

[@christokapp597]

The problem is not the coach but something deeper in Welsh Rugby, time for a clean out and new blood that are willing to make unpopular decisions. Just look at the squad, hardly know some of them. This is not going to be a quick fix, we were there about 10 yrs ago and only hard work and thinking outside the box brought us to where we are.

[@IronCross666]

Hands of Gatland for me. Welsh rugby went through a rough time just a year or two ago. They need to rebuild and regroup, and its going to take time. The only error by Gatland and his selectors, was to get rid of big names like AW Jones and Dan Biggar altogether. They would probably be a massive asset in coaching roles. Anyway, brace yourselves the green train are coming.