Gaudete - anonim, Piae Cantiones, 1582

Zespół muzyki dawnej Perfugium w składzie:
soprany: Bogumiła Kowalska, Natalia Kucia, Joanna Przybyłowska, Bożena Solarz
alty: Zofia Nowak, Magdalena Rychiak
tenory: Jakub Blycharz, Mateusz Solarz, Mateusz Kowalski
basy: Michał Kłos, Piotr Przybyłowski
Występ miał miejsce 14 lipca 2013 roku, godzinie 16.00, w Kościele św. Józefa w Krakowie - w ramach Letnich Podgórskich Koncertów

[@Hilgendorf1]

Drodzy Państwo, każdy wielbiciel muzyki dawnej doceni poprawną w wymowie łacinę Waszego wykonania. Ośmielę się zaryzykować stwierdzenia, że na światowym yt próżno szukać lepszej aranżacji Gaudete. Dziękuję Wam bardzo!

[@andy1962ish]

This is the best version of Gaudete I have heard and I've heard a few.

[@lindalawrence5485]

Yes. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[@piotrnowak8687]

Ta pierwsza Pani mogłaby głosem kruszyć mury Jerozolimy. Brawo dla wszystkich

[@dariuszo136]

PO prostu-Trąba Jerychońska.-żartem.Pięknie Spiewają,często ich słucham.

[@marcinzborek]

Zoska... Tez z domu Nowak ;)

[@Theoriginaltkg2902]

Love the way she belts out the incipit. Medieval chant was not for the faint of heart; you don't fill a cavernous stone church mildly strumming an acoustic guitar ( or lute as the case may be).

[@psychickitty1]

Tom Gray true that!

[@DaveDexterMusic]

Pretty much the opposite is true, sounds that would be gone in an instant in normal spaces are picked up and reverberated for many seconds in spaces like this. To the extent that it informed the styles of some of the foremost sacred composers of the time, since complicated polyphony would be almost incomprehensible in a reverberant space compared to homophony. And you can hear that even when the ensemble sing quietly, they are still filling the space. I assume you're making some swipe at modern worship music, and I'd agree that I prefer this, but "not for the faint of heart"? It's not like these pieces were written to be belted at full forte throughout.

[@siralexandersequeira3rdcou12]

The churches were vastly decorted with panels, tiles, frescoes and other adornaments which haven't stood in most cases.

[@tigerboy1966]

Crikey, the little woman at the start really does have some pipes!

[@thedabick]

the glasses lady is so beautiful!

[@alexanderlotharson5634]

Step back, Buddy, I want to marry her!

[@trad13]

Świetne wykonanie. FANTASTYCZNA akustyka. Ten naturalny pogłos jest cudowny.

[@chrispza]

I love the open-throat opening solo; makes one’s neck-hairs prickle.

[@StevenJacksonMusic]

This is lovely, the acoustic is wonderful.

[@eriktjallinks5942]

The best performance of this song I hear on KZbin.

[@WB92120]

Aujourd'hui, 12/12 dimanche de Gaudete. Quelle magnifique exécution, c'est du chant à l'état pur. La joie s’entend dans le chant et se voit sur le visage des dames. Merci et continuez avec votre ensemble à nous enchanter.

[@1XRCKnROLr]

Absolutnie piękny występ. Dziękuję za wspaniały film. Początkowa wokalistka jest niesamowita!

[@sb6678]

Finally a version the contains the correct melody for the verse and the accidentals in the chorus

[@cmg1819]

other melody is better though

[@zbigniewwendorff4989]

Pięknie , wspaniale !! A jak cudownie brzmi śpiew solowy sopranu na początku pieśni !!!

[@thatguyinelnorte]

I know none of the singers; but the fact that they rejoice over the birth of Jesus Christ makes me think we're already friends.

[@dawidkocyba8644]

Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Tempus ad est gratiae hoc quod optabamus Carmina laetitiae devote redamus Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Deus homo factus est, natura mirante Mundus renovatus est a Christo regnante Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Ezechielis porta clausa per transitur Unde lux est orta salus invenitur Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Ergo nostro cantio psallat iam in lustro Benedicat domino salus regi nostro Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete Gaudete, gaudete Christus est natus Ex Maria virgine gaudete

[@timor66]

When I was 12 I studied violin playing and in a junior string orchestra we played Piae Cantiones songs. Can't remember exact songs but perhaps this finely sung Gaudete was in repertoire. We even participated in a national youth happening and got to play on tv for a news clip. Fond memories and as older very much appreciate this kind of soothing religious music.

[@pedropuyazueloperez9440]

Magníficas voces y un latín bien pronunciado. ¡Y a capella! Enhorabuena desde España.

[@jayveebloggs9057]

Beautiful...wow... would love to see this in Krakow...

[@alanadegroot875]

I absolutely love this!

[@annaborowska4754]

46 150 tysięcy wyświetleń - w tym moich 46 149. Najlepsze wykonanie Gaudete jakie słyszałam.

[@sofia.morenska]

Supremely beautiful, thank you🖤

[@tik3butvir]

I am thrilled I have finally found one version with propper (not English) pronunciation of Latin! Thank you very much!

[@cantonius5945]

Vojtěch Malý ahem, ecclesiastical Latin pronunciation varies somewhat by region, and the English-speaking countries use Roman Ecclesiastical pronunciation.

[@pedropuyazueloperez9440]

For neo-latin peoples (Spaniards and Italians, specially) english pronunciation of Latin is horrible. Finally, a well pronounced version.

[@hanas.4920]

Amazing! Wish I saw this in person!

[@Allinfun6789]

What a beautiful sounding group. There is a lot of talent here and your Latin pronunciation was brilliant.

[@parekhshilpa5170]

God bless you

[@TerryTanktop]

This is so uplifting

[@rami-sep]

The beginning ❤

[@ann__m]

Heavenly beautiful ❤️....

[@mikecribdon152]

Beautiful version

[@suidberd968]

Brawo Bravissimo !!!

[@cheliu564]

the tallest gal is stunning 😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@umbertocorbellini5316]

Beautiful singing group!

[@deanwhitehead1483]

takes you right back to medieval times

[@Gilfanon-2]

Wonderful!

[@LeeMitchellAcoustic]

Incredible.....

[@dariuszo136]

Perfekcyjne zgranie,piekne glosy!!!!

[@lordprotector3367]

Steeleye Span (waits to get flamed)!

[@George-jg9sy]

God bless you.

[@katarzynaszmitko6508]

Wielki szacunek dla Pani, która śpiewała wstęp. Można spróbować w ten sposób zaśpiewać całość - polecam. :-)

[@franek5192]

+Katarzyna Szmitko Nie mozna zaśpiewać tak całość, to wręcz zabronione!!! Słowo "Gaudete" znaczy "radość", dla tego ta pieśń MA BYĆ ŻYWA.

[@matlacky]

+Katarzyna Szmitko Piękna średniowieczna surowość i ludowość w głosie. Super!

[@carolineleiden]

Finally a choir with good latin pronunciation! All the english speaking singers with their gow-day-tay really ruin the song for me. Thank you!

[@davideaufiero889]

Invece non è pronunciato bene! Per esempio.. Si dice "Maria Virgine" non "Maria Virghine"!!!

[@grzegorzgryc3586]

E coretto. Ci sono due maggiori tradizioni della pronuncia del latinο. La pronuncia italiana ("meridionale") è piu "moderna"", la pronuncia polacca segue il tipo "settentrionale", piu arcaico. In questo caso, la pronuncia settentrionale è meglio, il canto è scandinavo, magari finlandese.

[@davideaufiero889]

Ma che dici!? Ti risulta che il polacco o il finlandese sia una lingua neolatina come l’italiano!? E poi in latino ecclesiastico (che rappresenta il latino medioevale) come in Italiano esiste la lettera h per pronunciare la g “dura” davanti alla e o alla i! Dunque, da quando esiste questo canto si dice “Maria Virgine”! Il suono ghi e ghe tra l’altro era quasi sconosciuto anche nel latino di Cicerone, perché per la traslitterazione veniva fagocitato dalla c o dalla k! Ma comunque, ti ripeto, il latino di riferimento in questo caso deve essere quello ecclesiastico, che a differenza di quello antico ha una pronuncia certa e ben definita, e che oltre a rappresentare la naturale evoluzione del latino antico, è anche la lingua attuale della Chiesa e di questo canto.

[@grzegorzgryc3586]

Ovviamente, il polacco ed il finlandese non sono lingue meolatine ma c'è una lunga tradizione germanica di prununcia del latino che conserva consonanti occlusive velare (senza palatalizatione tipica per tutte le lingue neolatine eccetto il sardo che conserva la pronincia arcaica e.g. "(b)oche" invece do "voce"). Nelle lingue germaniche del alto medioevo questa palatalizzazione non esiste, i.e. per i tedeschi (o simili) era semplicemente impossibile pronunciare "vergine" alla manera delle lingue neolatine. Ecco, pronunciamo "g" dura proprio perchè nostre lingue NON sono neolatine :-) Ci sono esempii clasici como "Giulio Cesare" dove in tedesco si pronuncia "Julius" e "Kaiser" e stato adottato nell'epoca di Cesare como sinonimo di "imperatore". Questa pronuncia germanica (tedesca) foi adottata per le lingue scandinave e slave (con alcuni varianti), dovuto al effetto della chiesa tedesca (e.g. i primi vescovi in Polonia erano quasi tutti da paesi germanici. Guarda: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_regional_pronunciation E ci sono anche varianti del latino ecclesiastico. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_Latin "Ecclesiastics in some countries follow slightly different traditions. For instance, in Slavic and German-speaking countries, "C" commonly receives the value of /ts/ before "E" and "I", and speakers pronounce "G" in all positions hard, never as /d͡ʒ/ (English "J") . (See also Latin regional pronunciation and Latin spelling and pronunciation: Ecclesiastical pronunciation.)". Despite of (papal) recommendations from the end of XIX / beginning of the XX century, the ecclesiastical pronunciation "alla italiana" was never adopted in Poland and it's considered strange. Sometimes it's really funny, e.g. John Paul II used the "italian" pronunciation in Vatican but in Poland he used the Polish one :-) I'm used to the "Italian" pronunciation but in Poland I always use the "Polish" one. Otherwise nobody understands :-) Or, in some cases, one may be considered as a total idiot, e.g. if a Pole pronounces Genesis (Book of Genesis) "alla italiana", like in English, sure, he must be a mega dumb...

[@davideaufiero889]

Il latino ecclesiastico ha una forma e una pronuncia precisa e codificata che tra l'altro esprime il modo corretto in cui si parlava latino presso tutte le persone colte dei popoli europei (compresa la Germania). Quando parli di chiesa tedesca infatti, tu ti riferisci non alla Chiesa ma alla setta protestante, che oltre a manipolare le Scritture fu promotrice non solo della traduzione nelle lingue volgari della Bibbia (cosa buona) ma purtroppo anche della volgarizzazione del latino che è tutta un'altra cosa, poichè l' immutabilità del latino è parte integrante del suo carattere sacro e attinente alle cose di Dio.

[@DancinFool]

Great job. Love the sound in there. And a couple of those gals are gorgeous, so enjoyed watching as well as listening.

[@paulberks5609]

The girl wearing the glasses is my favourite. She looks so sweet; and her barely contained pride at the end. I know she wanted to cheer, 'good job, everyone!' Lovely!

[@ACEmagnus]

Goosebumps

[@marzgirl99]

Wow, they’re pronouncing Classical Latin and not ecclesial latin, I’ve never heard that before in chant!

[@grzegorzgryc3586]

In fact, it's the standard Polish Latin pronunciation :-) Basically it's very close to the 1st-2nd century except e.g. "ci/ce-" like sounds we pronounce "Cicero" as "tsitsero" although "tchitschero" would probably make more sense (at least for Italians). Generally we follow an old German (Frankish?) tradition but our vowels and consonants are far closer to the Italian, so it sounds quite well. The medieval Polish Latin was far "worse"" because of a lot of softened consonants, a more classical pronunciation was reestablished in XVII-XVIII century. BTW, off topic. Some Polish guys make a really interesting job related to the pronunciation. E.g. here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWasY4t9n5lkmZo Their French could have been better but it's one of the very, very few cases the French 16th century pronunciation of "je bois" or "Arbois" (-we, not -wa) is preserved... The only one case I remember now is Jordi Savall (Capella Reial de Catalunya). kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKnPqHaKhNqHidU Normally Tourdion is simply awful...

[@sb6678]

This in fact would be the equivalent of a hymn or carol for the era. Chant is something quite different. Chant is free flowing and sung as if you were speaking the words, this clearly has a rhythm to it. There is also a difference if you look at the manuscript, chant had 4 lines and popular pieces as performed by singers, etc had 5 lines as this piece did in its original.

[@eddemans]

@@grzegorzgryc3586 Thank you!

[@pedropuyazueloperez9440]

Only the he chorus, no the other verses

[@Lurker01]

polish ecclesial latin is mostly like that. If not, then prist is prodobly from french seminar or italian one.

[@haworthyork7501]

Dziekuje!

[@paszkar]

Deus gratias!

[@pedropuyazueloperez9440]

Deo, not Deus (dative case).

[@MMaaddeelleeiinnee]

miód!

[@viribusunitis2147]

Slightly better than George Michael`s Last Christmas :)))

[@cheekymouse4]

Hahaha x

[@monikaczyz1289]

wooow

[@samuelebragazzi4383]

Straziante

[@andrewbouch3299]

ad gloriam Dei

[@xXSunshineDogsXx]

❤👍

[@katarzynaszmitko6508]

Sebastian w sprawie pouczenia. Dlatego piszemy łącznie 😀

[@jayveebloggs9057]

Back again

[@jayveebloggs9057]

and again

[@philphcube5592]

Men...3 tenors and two bass? I can only see 4 men and one of those is the conductor! However, we see very little of the men singing so perhaps one of them is very short? I wonder why it is that the camera man focuses on the ladies and virtually ignores the men?I LOVE this. Not to everyone's taste of course, but to each his own. IMO a good performance by this Polish group.

[@HamiltonProvonsha]

Way to lean into that leading tone. 👌

[@user-td4do3op2d]

Is the raised seventh at the cadence from the original version?

[@bucklilli9832]

Is the tune Dorian or Aeolian? I could figure it out on my guitar.

[@sb6678]

Buck Lilli Æolian. In the Carol book Piæ Cantiones it is written in Æolian mode. Both Dorian and Æolian modes are quite similar and tricky to tell apart; but there are subtle differences between the two, such as the dominant in the mode. Another clue is the accidental in the final 'de' of GauDEte. There would not be such an accidental in the Dorian

[@kevinreyes8565]

[@philwright6940]

Best version is done by Steeleye Span

[@brain8484]

no bad but a little monotonic , the men singers were weak ... they are relying on the reverb from the church ..

[@djth666]

:)

[@jameswilson807]

Wonderful sounds but my lord this is a terrible arrangement. Probably the original but it works so much better in a more baroque style

[@Sofia-of7of]

Если они находятся в храме, почему они стоят без платков ?

[@lookash3048]

В польской католической традиции женщины должны иметь обнаженной голову в храме.

[@MiSt3300]

Dlatego że to jest kościół katolicki i w Polsce nie ma zwyczaju aby kobiety nosiły husty w kościele