[GBF] アガスティアダブル お試しウィルナス || Testing Agastia Manatura in Wilnas

After getting the Agastia manatura, i know this is really good for one turn setup like in NM90, but i was thinking if there is any other application for it and water manadiver is the first one to come to mind because this setup makes use of the MC ougi multiple times, but it is still not better than Ouroboros. It is also hard to keep having 12 buffs to trigger the manatura which is why Ouroboros is better overall

[@scrapkingkeita3825]

I mean, obviously an ougi-focused manatura will do worse than an auto-attack focused one when you're running falsehood chain

[@ZanericLogs]

i couldn't think of any comp that spam ougi except for this, agastia manatura itself seems only good for 1-2 turn burst

[@scrapkingkeita3825]

@@ZanericLogs well, maybe if you weren't using falsehood chain you could probably think of a few characters, like Summer Fediel who provides meter for the party with her passive and double ougi activation, Shalem who gets double ougi activation at 10 enemy debuffs, C. Catura for the double strike to ramp up your own meter, Gamma + Glory Chain on the Opus Like, I'm not saying that it's better than Ouro, but this is just a really bad way to showcase it, like the people who tried to argue about Chat Noir's 5* being bad because his 4th skill didn't drain Belial

[@ZanericLogs]

@@scrapkingkeita3825 i know we can use that, but it will be always slower than using auto attack comp with Payila, she is just that strong, hence the usage of overtrance + falsehood chain to abuse her passive, maybe you can cosplay kengo with agastia manatura, but in the end it will be still fall short to manadiver using payila, well maybe i will try that next time, thanks for the input

[@scrapkingkeita3825]

@@ZanericLogs "I know we can use that" Then use it for an actual showcase. As it stands, this kind of comparison is about as useful as saying that Gabriel is bad while mainhanding Hraesvelgr, because you can't reliably build up her stacks, or showing off a Summer Raziel setup where everyone is running blue and green skills. Hell, even putting all of that aside, the argument that "It's worse" doesn't even resonate between elements, and other elements are able to clear their dragons faster than water, without using falsehood chain. Even the fastest manadiver setup for water, doesn't use Payila btw, it's Anila/Poseidon/Gabriel and Payila is only used as a substitute for Anila. You're not even making the basic argument of the manatura being better for longer content-- you went on to say 'overall.' I can almost guarantee you that this thing is going to be seeing more play in manual for U&W than Ouro (though Manadiver will almost certainly not see much play to begin with in NM200 and up in general, especially in water manual). I'm going to say it again-- a comparison only has value, when the comparison is tooled for how the subjects work. You wouldn't say that summer belial or bubz are bad for OTK stuff if you tested on the lignoid that doesn't attack, would you? PS: Don't swap the location of the two windows in your editing, it leads to misreading of the data

[@ZanericLogs]

@@scrapkingkeita3825 yea, now that i think about it again, i should have use it that way huh instead of comparing the 2, should have use agastia manatura full potential ig for agastia manatura itself, i think the easiest usage is in NM90 but we will see in the future whether it can be used in nM200 thank you for the feedback