GCS3 LIVE Grand Final: Game 5 - a truly EPIC decider! 🏆 Who will lift the trophy??? (CoH2)

[@AECoH]

Enjoy one of the biggest moments in our community's history! Game 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2HRfqqBndyZZ5o Game 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIbHepx_a9uKras Game 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYnce4ZtZ7N2pZo Game 4: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKqVmJSZebypj5I

[@elpern]

We couldn't ask for a better organizer! Cheers ae!

[@general5119]

Are you going to do an analysis video on your tournament game like you did with your game against Giaa?

[@elpern]

@@general5119 yes i intend to, expect it within a week or so!

[@TheAndresun]

You did really good Elpern. Deserved the win as well!

[@RabbiJochanan]

Really good series from you Elpern! You do have an entertaining style to your play as well. I really thought you had it there when you pushed in and tried to block the t34-76 with you Puma. If not for the phase-through, the t34 dies in 5-10 seconds and you are in a position to close the game by destroying the AT gun as well for almost no losses. You might even have been able to keep the Puma from the position you had there, at least in my estimation. I thought that was a very well planned and executed attack, and you were unlucky there. From that point on, of course Luvnest plays a very tight game, and makes it extremely difficult for you. GG WP to all the players in the finals I would say. And thank you to everyone involved for making such good entertainment for us plebs that are better at watching than actually playing the game.

[@ahmedshokry5729]

@@elpern you were amazing , gg man

[@jackh8629]

GCS3 = Best event in coh2 history

[@mortz18]

would have been better with Isildur :) :)

[@mortz18]

@Ryan Vetter can't remember if it was inability to travel or just trying to not have a predictable white wash!

[@kingmatox]

Thank you guys, great tournament! Congrats to both Luvnest and elpern, fantastic players.

[@frostie89]

Elpern uses 4 out of the 5 factions in a final, what a hero! Great series and either player were deserving of the overall.

[@felixyuen8225]

*4 out of 4. But yes, us fans love to see people deviate from the Sov-Ost meta.

[@simonk.6349]

Love to see you guys keeping this game alive

[@flavorandpaper]

this is the first tourney I've watched since I started to play CoH 2 when they gave it away for free on Steam, thought it looked fun and immediately bought all the factions, only at like 150 hours I learnt to "play" the game and understand it and it's meta, like I said this is my first tourney and I loved it. Great job everyone involved on making this possible and the community for keeping the game alive for so long. Can't wait for coh 3!

[@user-wn1jf7pg6x]

all credits to elpern by choosing okw for the sake of fun, such a bold play. better player in my eye

[@viniciusm.m.7822]

Great! Congrats AECoH! Excelente organização com muito profissionalismo e diversão! Parabéns! And keep it up! :D

[@zeyeon2277]

What a fantastic series! I felt guilty watching this for free. Will watch your videos here and on twitch everyday to help fund the next one. Cheers!

[@ricardoperez2793]

Elpern deserves a lot of praise he was able to achieve some incredible feats in GCS3, but Luvnest in the end had an answer for everything Elpern was throwing at him, well earned Luvnest!

[@psimatrix8568]

Thank you AECoH and the players. Loving your work, keep it up guys! 👏🏻 🍻

[@beauonpc]

Great game. I can’t help think the double Zis just does too much. They penned the command panther nearly every shot, even with vet at max range. Yet the Jagt bounces twice vs the IS2. It’s just a shame. Well done very the finalist getting this far and putting in their all to reach a game 5

[@atomicgandhi8718]

The pen values of AT guns and tank destroyers, and armour of Heavies like the panther and IS2 are nearly identical. Its really just a luck thing. The only outlier is the USF AT gun, which has below average Pen when not using its AP rounds ability.

[@S_1_L_3_N_C_3]

@@atomicgandhi8718I’m not sure if they changed it since then, but the OKW rak now has the worse pen chance and highest bounce rate out of all the at guns

[@philipmathiason1552]

GGVP boys, well done all of you, hope it will transfer to coh3. Enjoy your party and thanks to AE how give us a chans to follow the game. Cheers from the lowest rankt player in sweden anno 2013.

[@deadhead7930]

I'm very impressed by the quality of this event. Commentary, camera angles, money put in to make this happen, we got some yt coh2 "stars" like tightrope,Hans etc. Seriously impressive for what the game is and how old it is... Looking forward to another one. Cheers from Poland.

[@HistoryGameV]

Aaaaah I would have so loved for him to win! Excellent game, got his opponent on the ropes there but couldn't quite pull the trigger! Excellent cast, excellent tournament, well done everybody and congrats to the winner!

[@devin7161]

Amazing work @AECoh this was just incredible. Thank you so much! Shout out to all that made this possible as well. Ed80 is a fantastic casted and coolio for all the organizing!

[@gadsby]

Keep going with this stuff boys!! I would love to tie in a holiday with coming to a COH2/3 event. Have a few beers with the boys and watch the games live on the big screen. One of the best RTS games ever and scratches the historical itch at the same time. Keep em coming

[@mrbeanbro]

Looking forward to more Coh2/3 events!

[@GUANTA23K]

That was incredible! Wow what a great event! Great casters, awesome games. Man I did enjoy every minute of it here on KZbin! Kudos to elpern and luvnest! AE, you are just the best man! You are filling this game with so much life. Can't wait for CoH 3 to get out, man and I hope you'll keep doing these casts.

[@1979ce]

The celebration at the end was nice.

[@ahmedshokry5729]

AE , thank you for what you are doing to the community , you are amazing.

[@bazing5557]

Never knew what CoH was until I stumbled upon you're channel a few months ago. Always been an RTS/TBS fan so I caught on pretty quickly and have been loving all the videos since. Managed to jump into the stream for a bit with Luvnest vs JJJ caught the second game and loved it great work guys will definitely be round for CoH3!

[@haaansolo8568]

Another absolute nailbiter!!!! Thank you sooo much AE!!! Edit: okw pick started great, puma didn't keep up the inf pressure, t34/85 once again absolute beasts, and okw mechanised lack of indirect hurting big time in the end!

[@swashbukk]

wow, elpern picked OWK, what a break from the somewhat tedious Ostheer v Soviet matchup.

[@ericaugust1501]

his pick makes him the winner if you ask me. boring safe pick OP soviets. lame. you don't need to nerf the soviets, but for gods sake someone buff OKW and the brits so they actually are a viable selection.

[@swashbukk]

@@ericaugust1501 well,winner is winner. I am not a top player that i can make a real balance judgement of which faction is strongest with which doctrine.

[@schmidbag]

thanks for organizing this event, AE!

[@losgillis]

It's actually really cool seeing all these players I watch and admire so much in one room.

[@christophmahler]

Classic AE: "A few days later, I discovered, I had muted the casting". *Awesome event, from planning to execution - great to see everyone* - like e.g. 'Helping Hans' and 'Tightrope' - *in the same room* . I did miss 'Von Ivan' and e.g. 'Stormless' and 'DevM' from previous events, covering the entire history of the community. Moving _forward_ , one thing, that can be polished within the already _thoughtful_ setup - although e.g. 'Orangepest' and 'Luvnest' had improvised to that end when they took the casting seats - is _accurate, comprehensive post-game analysis that makes average viewers think: _"Huh_ ..." kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3aTmWmGqpuna9U (maybe, it could be linked to separate, _edited_ videos, not to spoil the mood - and if womanfolk are equal, one could have some make sense of what they see...) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKTRcpxnp7N1rKM I'd expected 'Elpern' to pick the 'Special Operations' commander in order to blind 'Luvnest' - who had _ideal_ faction and commander choice (including 'Radio Intercept', _knowing_ the opposing army composition) but who _depends_ on the tactical map - with *'Radio Silence'* ... and he did. Loved to see a *tank hunter deployment* as well - alas, the lack of reconaissance in the lumber yard by 'Elpern' suited 'Luvnest', hogging resources and points around the grave yard _like a beaver, flooding a valley_ . kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3SrYWd5nb59aZY

[@jazui5580]

What was the game that Luvnest and Orangepest commented?

[@christophmahler]

@@jazui5580 "What was the game that Luvnest and Orangepest commented?" I'm sorry, I can't give You a timestamp from the top of my head. Try skimming through the video until You see both in the chairs - I believe it was about night time, maybe on the second day ?...

[@benlubbers4943]

thank god, OKW and USF in these last two games were great to see, it's so good to see these factions after nothing but SU vs OST for so long.

[@musta00]

This Championship was fantastic, I had a great time and this last match was fantastic. Thank you. Cheers from Brazil.

[@wanoumars]

Awesome! Congratulations to the players and big thanks to AE! Keep up the fantastic work!

[@samwu1836]

Luvnest is truly a hero of mine. I always come back to this moment, to this game and remember all that the German has shown us over the years. I know everyone talks about Isildur, but nobody has had as much grace, longevity and memorable participations and growth as Luvnest... also horny German schoolboy coming up with a corny teenage gaming tag like his is just so endearing.

[@colinbidwell1540]

Great tourney enjoyed watching all the games thx all

[@mortz18]

Superb! Flawless tournament, amazing games, great casting, full commitment from everyone. Love your work.

[@Siritos]

Well done AE and all other organisers, thank you.

[@valdry313]

Im proud of this community. Respect👏🏿

[@SweUlfzor]

Great final, thansk to all for a great series!

[@20985229147]

Goes USF when he's on match point, goes OKW in final game. What an absolute madchadman.

[@thespfgirl]

Brilliant work! Congratulations!

[@brandoncosillo6731]

Man this is awesome, thank you all!

[@aidansalt7862]

Bro every game you say something so funny it reminds me to like the video 😂 this time it was before 30 seconds game time. Epic event and epic casting by all, it was really fun to have a variety. But AE will always be the top hype man and play by play caster in my book

[@AECoH]

kind words thank you!

[@Flyingskull666]

What a game ! And what a tourney thx for keeping this game alive !

[@samwu1836]

I remember reading someone's comment on stream about how the game ended when Elpern bought the Mech HQ instead of Battlegroup.

[@felixyuen8225]

It's hard to say cos even tho you lose a lot of fuel and muni going the Mech HQ route, Puma prevented m5/T70 mid-game dominance and allowed the Volks to do well against Cons before 7-man Cons came online. It was the primary reason Elpern had such a dominant grasp of the mid-game.

[@samwu1836]

@@felixyuen8225 I disagree. His early mid was hardly dominant. The Puma killed barely any infantry, post-nerf it's useless as a scout car and Luvnest knew that he just needed snares and ZiS to end that thing.

[@felixyuen8225]

​@@samwu1836 I don't know what you were watching man. In the mid-game, between LV timing to first medium tank, Elpern won VPs by 160-13. In the mid-game, Elpern was averaging +32 fuel, Luvnest around +23 fuel. T34-85 came out only 30 seconds faster than P4 + Puma, which shows that Luvnest was at least 80 to 90 fuel slower by the 18 min mark because OKW tech costs are higher + Puma costs 70. If you trade evenly in the mid-game after going Puma, the P4 will come out slower than T34-85 by more than 3 minutes, minimum. The resource control and VP control was very dominant for Elpern in the mid-game, unless you somehow think dominance means 500-0 win with the map 100% red.

[@sifuhotman1300]

That phase through of the T-34 escaping the puma flanking from the rear... Puma should've had that in the bag.

[@Mr_Ronny_Z]

Amazing, well done lads, such an entertaining event

[@dwiki428]

this is a good news for this game, hope many people will play this again

[@MrWasjig]

What a fantastic event it has been! Many congrats to the winner! (no spoilers in this comment). Many thanks for organising one heck of a tournament AE!

[@justinumali8618]

This series is bonkers!!!!!

[@DerFuchsJr]

Thx for putting coh on the map

[@dromaeda9861]

loved watching this, might get back into the game and prep for CoH3 >:)

[@Wings0fRed]

Fantastic event and fun final. Thanks for putting on a great show!!

[@ak_xyc]

was a very tense game with a lot of good moments, good watch

[@punz0934]

Very moving at the end, incredible matches.

[@federox86]

super!!!!!!!!!!!! gratz Luvnest

[@PaehNami]

beautiful community.. cheers!

[@cfuenza4106]

Amazing finals, but why 50 fps?

[@revolucionaom3895]

my lord what a game

[@Kurzxclan]

That was an amazing event to watch

[@kylemadsen5698]

I have been playing coh2 since a little after release. And I never up till recently there was actual tournaments for it. This was a awesome match. I am curious how is it decided who Plays what faction. And what are the requirements to be able to participate in such a tournament?!

[@Oats2900]

I have send it to few of my friend and personally watching it third time

[@a.j.snelson597]

Can't wait!

[@21gunsalute14]

Congrats to luvnest! and Elpern you did a great job! It was a little unlucky that ZIS killed P4 through the tree line.

[@蔡林翰-v2m]

OKW 最缺乏的，其實就是反人員的能力，所以一開始蘇聯方就用三個徵招兵+兩個戰鬥工兵組成的人海優勢直到中間20分鐘完全沒有問題 而且戰鬥工兵的戰鬥力無疑的強悍，尤其是噴火槍升級後 相當於Shock troops的殺傷能力 反坦克就選擇ZIS-76MM，太過優秀的單位，就連虎王的正面都可以穿的AP，跟不時可以打支援的強力自動追蹤HE 中間 兩台P4都被收掉了，指揮豹式就是一個沒有啥用的裝飾品，沒有其他AT的輔助，T-34就可以屠殺步兵了 蘇聯的戰略方面更勝一籌，OKW 方面則是選擇指揮官錯誤直接導致後繼無力了

[@曲中直]

Elpern会选择okw,在这个ohvs sov的版本时代 我还是很钦佩的

[@samwu1836]

Have the winners of the collector's box been confirmed/contacted yet?

[@benedictjajo]

Even Luvnest couldn't pull off a single victory as Wehrmacht in this bo5 series and he's the strongest Wehrmacht player in coh2 history. And that is with a heavily nerfed 120mm Soviet gg mortar. Yeah, allies are too op right now. Apart from that, Congratulations to both players for displaying one of the most spectacular performances.

[@fredericabernkastel1460]

I guess the Wehrmacht is just not that good now. Anyway GG guys!! Enjoyed every moment of this grand tournament.

[@fredericabernkastel1460]

(Oh and OKW too, obviously 🧐)

[@SLNMX]

finishing a chess tournament, wish it was a CoH2 tournament...

[@MrRoyalFlushx]

Keep it going was so entertaining!

[@versnagt1995]

Why didn't he move his conscript out of bis base to damage engine ?! 26:30

[@InfallibleProof]

where was this at?

[@ricoryan3540]

Elpern lost his composure by the end. Luvnest meanwhile always a man of sheet will and focus

[@istvanszoke381]

Well entertained as usual!

[@aaronpeter9755]

This was amazing

[@TNSAOD]

Awesome work! More?

[@Honeyguts88]

What an awesome event! AE is fuckin awesome I wanna get that guy a beer or twelve!

[@mrpotaehead]

My handsome ElPorn is playing tournaments?!

[@FrogWalrus]

What’s the Soviet’s win rate? They seem like the straight up best faction.

[@felixyuen8225]

54% at top 200 levels, and yes they are.

[@xii600]

The preemptive puma cost him the game, a stuka with even 0 kills would be more useful for applying pressure

[@mikegiamberdino5698]

Excellent game.

[@BoorishM]

Love you guys

[@Akeno0002]

"Let's show the people how berlin has fallen to the red army"

[@BigMrSox]

@AECoH Great series, great players. Do a last showdown event where 'Community Balance Team' members square off against actual top players of the game in a new event called: "The Team with Special Needs versus the Dream Team". We could use some answers as to why the game went from bad to worse after 5 years of 'balance'.

[@devin7161]

What would be the point of this? Of course world class players would beat the balance team. They do totally different jobs. Almost any group of active Premier league players could crush any group premier league manager easily in a football match. But no one would say the players know more then the managers. The balance team isn’t perfect, messes up and is partially done by volunteers. I think they do a good job representing themselves.

[@hommedesbois9080]

Who paid for the plane tickets???

[@psychedelicpapercraftproje7892]

Who is the grumpy guy on the far left that rarely ever claps?

[@Mazugameplays]

The RNG was really painfull for elpern, but anyways GG

[@AA-vr8ez]

Fantastic game

[@furb3258]

Amazing

[@aziouss2863]

Spoilers: I am surprised that 7 man cons were left unchecked while osstrupen were RIGHTFULLY nerfed due to being too manpower efficient. I mean it is beyond obvious that those guys are too strong and give soviets an unfair advantage in the lategame but they were simply never nerfed god knows why...

[@Gotti9]

Amazing game

[@רקשיבא]

FIRE FIRE FIRE

[@tomtomed1]

*spoiler* The Puma missing 5/6 shots on that mine then just going "sod it, I'll use my wheel rather than the cannon"

[@issaiss631]

hello,how much money did the winner win?

[@AECoH]

$1000

[@issaiss631]

@@AECoH thnx)))

[@rafaelsilveira9285]

so proud of this shit

[@jasoncopin]

GG

[@SOLID_MATTIC]

Great effort from Elpern. I think that once they went Mech instead of Battlegroup (I think a mistake but~) he should have went a luchs as well as that puma. Alternately just a luchs instead of a Puma, but Elpern couldn't have known that Luvnest was not getting a T-70 or a Quad. He needed to use the long time in the game where he had LV and Luvnest didnt to gain a big advantage. Risky to use so much fuel on early vehicles, yes. But as the game goes on Soviets are just too strong for OKW, so risk was necessary.

[@felixyuen8225]

As observers, we have perfect knowledge, so we can see that Luvnest chose Armoured Assault. But Elpern didn't know his Puma was getting radio-intercepted by the commander ability. Luvnest's commander choice gave him the perfect advantage in this case, so he skipped T70/M5 not through his own plan, but as a reaction. You can also view the midgame through the lens of Soviets losing their traditional midgame power spike of T70/Quad, so going Mechanised wasn't a bad choice. But I do agree that Luchs would have added much needed bleed and pressure.

[@LagTheKiller]

So unfortunate with the puma. Who could have thought Soviets will skip t70? Killing blow by your own unit. Also 5+ squad weapons begs for walking stuka even if it's one click dumb wiper.

[@ryanstinnitus6530]

my god... where are the beers? i feel awkward for everyone there.

[@PIMP89ii]

The Germans are back

[@TheUberjammer]

Oh come on, stop looking at the comments. You're not finished watching the video yet. It's not like it's Happy vs Foggy.

[@danver555]

OKW upkeep in late game is just sad. :(