Gear Addiction Is Killing The Outdoors (It's Complicated)

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Better Hiking

Better Hiking

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@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Hey guys, thanks for watching! I’ve seen a good number of comments seeming to think that I believe all expensive and ‘high quality gear’ to be bad. I don’t at all, brands like those I mention in this video make good stuff! I personally buy ‘high quality name brand equipment’, there’s nothing wrong with that when you have the right reasons (like wanting gear to last, buying for good customer support, for reducing pack weight for advanced hikes and challenges etc). The main point I am trying to get across is for you to stop buying compulsively, and make purchases based off of your own experiences and personal requirements. I think we are all too fixated on our equipment when we ought to just get out there and have a good time, and I believe marketing and gearification culture has gone too far in our community. But hey, I could be wrong and maybe it’s just me…. What do you think?
@IliketohikeAT
@IliketohikeAT 3 ай бұрын
The big brands seem to, like you said, change the product from real hiking gear to gear for everyday users. Then it doesn’t work as well and the price is inflated. I try to stay to the smaller companies that focus on the small variety of outdoor specific products. Coalatree, Forclaz. I love gear but I’m not paying $500 for a breathable rain coat that wets out in less than an hour. Gortex is a hoax as well. A walk in the woods is almost always free. See you in the mountains.
@isaiahskinner2902
@isaiahskinner2902 3 ай бұрын
It seems to me, the most important part about getting outdoors is... getting outdoors. Gear for going out is sometimes like a tool; get the right tool for the job. Going backpacking for a few days? Pretty much any ol' pack and tent and sleeping bag will do. Going for a through-hike of 20 days and 300 miles? Take the time to plan and get something lighter, stronger, and better so your gear won't fail on you when you're 3 days from civilization. I personally go out into the woods and mountains so I can see the woods and feel alone with God and His nature. I don't go out to use the best gear. I need boots, and a water bottle. If I'm going overnight, I need a few more things. Just go out and see what you need when you go. Learn and prepare and, most importantly, get out there! Thanks for this good video, Sir. A lot of good ideas here!
@CombatBanana
@CombatBanana 3 ай бұрын
Crazy light gear allows you to hike further and get the same exercise; but more reps less weight sorta.
@howardbecdove9780
@howardbecdove9780 3 ай бұрын
Some people don’t listen, then get defensive. Others, like myself, know perfectly what you mean. Don’t worry about em.👍
@romainr.6071
@romainr.6071 3 ай бұрын
In France, and for a long time now in Europe in general too, we are very happy to have Decathlon making very good value sport/hiking equipment for all budgets, at much cheaper prices than historical brands.
@fl4k71
@fl4k71 3 ай бұрын
Going out in full gear and getting smoked by the old guy in jeans and fisherman hat truly is an experience
@paranoidandroid6001
@paranoidandroid6001 2 ай бұрын
true, but sometimes some gears can help you improve a little bit. I believe if you buy some good essential gears, you are set and you can manage to do everything. I practice hiking and trail running...for trail you need "some" gears, for your safety. Starting with a good pair of shoes.
@chihchang1139
@chihchang1139 Ай бұрын
people in hiking in full gear are training for much harder hikes or scouting for backpacking trip planning. If you're out hiking as a competition....just what are you doing?
@SophisticatedDogCat
@SophisticatedDogCat Ай бұрын
The only rare time that’ll ever happen is if the fisherman has less than a mile to walk from his car to his fishing spot, but still rare. The fisherman also isn’t carrying a full load out.
@bongo2011
@bongo2011 Ай бұрын
But that old man is going 3 miles while the full gear guy just walked 50.
@jamiejfowler
@jamiejfowler 3 ай бұрын
Some people seem to have missed the point of this video. The problem isn’t buying good gear, it’s that influencers along with their sponsors are pushing people to replace good gear with new gear just because it’s new, and are making new campers feel like expensive gear is the only good gear. For those who are just getting involved, analysis paralysis is real. Yes, an ultralight tent may be nice, but your Coleman is a lot better than nothing and can still get you out there enjoying yourself and learning. If you get all of your info from backpacking KZbinrs, you could easily end up believing everyone is out there camping with one of the same two tents, pads, backpacks, terrible freeze dried meals etc. when the reality is that there are campers out there with every brand, design, and age of gear imaginable. Also, not everyone is hiking as far as humanly possible just to set up a tent made of spider silk and collapse in it for the night. There are lots of us out here carrying all of our favourite comfortable gear for 10 km and then swimming, day hiking, fishing, cooking, chopping wood, birdwatching, reading in a hammock, and sitting by the campfire with a few drinks before going to bed happy, well fed and well rested. Hike your own hike, paddle your own canoe, and enjoy yourself.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Your last words encapsulate what I want people to get from this video. Just being in the outdoors is the point of it all, with or without trendy/expensive name brand gear.
@splashpit
@splashpit 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, I bicycle tour/camp and watch that content as well and people buy into the same paralysis of not owning the ( right gear ). I use whatever bike I’ve got that has a rack a cheap decathlon tent and me work clothes cross over to cycling because it’s waterproof and warm .
@romainr.6071
@romainr.6071 3 ай бұрын
In France, and for a long time now in Europe in general too, we are very happy to have Decathlon making very good value sport/hiking equipment for all budgets, at much cheaper prices than historical brands.
@The_Blessed_Cowboy
@The_Blessed_Cowboy 3 ай бұрын
While I agree with most of what you say. A coleman tent is not something you want to hike with and get caught in the rain. A good shelter is the best thing you should have while on a hike, even just a short distance hike. You can get away with mid range jackets etc. But a good shelter and sleeping bag is essential for a successful trip, other wise your just trying to survive.
@jamiejfowler
@jamiejfowler 3 ай бұрын
@@The_Blessed_Cowboy there are plenty of well reviewed and weatherproof tents from less expensive brands like Coleman. As long as you leak test ahead of time (which you should do with any shelter) and seam seal as needed they are perfectly serviceable. The tradeoff with these tents is often a big weight penalty rather than a lack of weatherproofing.
@khemikora
@khemikora 3 ай бұрын
The most important gear you can take into the woods is knowledge and that weighs nothing
@RossDixonTeaching
@RossDixonTeaching 3 ай бұрын
"The more you know the less you carry" (y)
@DeusKite
@DeusKite 3 ай бұрын
@@RossDixonTeaching good ol kochanski
@MrTozuyi
@MrTozuyi 2 ай бұрын
that's the key!
@chihchang1139
@chihchang1139 Ай бұрын
no. there are several more important gear than being naked in the woods with nothing but knowledge. You can hike a beginner trail with almost no knowledge at all. But you can't hike it without shoes or clothes. my worry about videos like this is that people will take it to the extreme like the video poster does and think they don't need gear. Always prepare the gear that you will need, and then always pack more than you think you need. The outdoors is a very dangerous place. Never underestimate nature.
@MrTozuyi
@MrTozuyi Ай бұрын
@chihchang1139 thank you mister obvious. I just go home and grab my shoes then. Of course you need some common sense. Knowledge beats gear every single day. Knowledge also means that you bring a rope if you want to rope climb..
@marktapp5408
@marktapp5408 3 ай бұрын
I had a conversation with my daughter some years ago and expressed the notion that I " don't need more gear, I need more time in the woods". Your video is spot on. Next time you feel the urge to buy more gear, go take a walk in the woods instead.
@RossDixonTeaching
@RossDixonTeaching 3 ай бұрын
excellent tip Mark I should have had a read before trying to articulate similar...
@dyingfetus87
@dyingfetus87 Ай бұрын
sure buddy
@Leif-s9w
@Leif-s9w 3 ай бұрын
Very good points. Something changed, indeed, when people began calling long underwear, a "base layer".
@paulvogel6303
@paulvogel6303 Ай бұрын
Lmao 😂 that’s so real, I was tryna find some for the winter and couldn’t find any and then realized they were all called “base layers” now
@RubbishGimpy
@RubbishGimpy 3 ай бұрын
The World of cycling is the same.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
It’s in everything I think, just the way it is.
@splashpit
@splashpit 3 ай бұрын
Yea , I watch cycle touring stuff because that’s what I like doing and most of those guys are fixated on always having the latest bike , I alternate between two bikes one is thirty years old and the other is twelve most of my camping gear is in the thirty years old range. I tell people what I do and they say they would love to do it but haven’t got the right kit together yet so I’m of the opinion they will never get out there .
@johnpowell9174
@johnpowell9174 3 ай бұрын
Cycling is bad but only follows golf. It'll be fishing next...
@kennycube5126
@kennycube5126 3 ай бұрын
​@@betterhiking Hi! Nice video😁Firstly, it aint just the hiking/outdoor industry as you probably know. How come you didn't bring up the actual cause of this? I have had a good look through the comments and have noticed no mention of it there or in the video. The economic landscape defines how all these companies operate and stratergise. Our economic system is global and is based on ever increasing sales. Customers need to be primed to fulfill their role. Capitalism co-opts our culture and it's activities, sucks the soul out it and sells it back to us in a shiney box. Your video in some ways is a small, but honest, critique of capitalism. Unfortunately, the idea that you can over come the effects of capitalism as a consumer is a little niave. You may be able to do it in a few aspects of your life. But when doing so, the rest of the world will be exerting it's social pressure onto you, saying you're doing the wrong thing, not patting you on the back, look at that weirdo etc. All the usual ways of making you conform. I guess you can always look at things on different levels, however this can not be understood without looking at the economic base. "It's easier to imagine the end of the world, than it is to imagine the end of capitalism." Mark Fisher. Right, I'm off to cycle round Gower and I'm gonna forget about everything for a few hours 😁
@kennycube5126
@kennycube5126 3 ай бұрын
@@johnpowell9174 It happens to the things you're not interested in as well.
@spacekat8249
@spacekat8249 3 ай бұрын
Even I'm 58, I just have discovered the joy of the outdoors this year. I've got a really low monthly income so I bought all my gear at Decathlon as I live in Europe... The fun and the pleasure I take on each hike is priceless!
@hotharvey2
@hotharvey2 3 ай бұрын
love this, decathlon is underrated!
@k.whiking4372
@k.whiking4372 3 ай бұрын
There is nothing wrong with Decathlon gear. It gets the job done and some of it is very good. The most important thing is to get out there in the outdoors and enjoy it, safely.
@spacekat8249
@spacekat8249 3 ай бұрын
@@hotharvey2 Thank you; I think so either
@RegEdmunds
@RegEdmunds 3 ай бұрын
I have four pairs of Decathlon hiking trousers, (all different colours) they fit me like a glove. They are so well made and wash and dry easily. My first pair cost me £7.99.
@IrisQueen1
@IrisQueen1 3 ай бұрын
I love decathlon also! Great price/quality! Enjoy the outdoors!!
@Ron-eq6cc
@Ron-eq6cc 3 ай бұрын
After years of camping I came to the realization that I didn’t need 90% of the crap that I used. It is sooooo much easier now. Great video.
@robmccarthy210
@robmccarthy210 3 ай бұрын
UK hiker here. Thanks for the video, there's definitely a bunch of valid points. I might be speaking from a position with a more secure sense of identity here... but here's my initial thoughts... I've spent money over the years gradually upgrading my gear. Whilst brands are often indicative of quality, I don't meet many people who obsess over the name or cost in place of the actual functionality of their clothing/equipment. Especially on the trail. People are always interested in a good-spirited way about what others are using. If anything, I think I'd be reluctant to do serious hiking dripping in expensive gear. Also, I think professional/amateur is maybe the wrong distinction. You can be an amateur but still be doing some pretty challenging stuff. I wouldn't be patting anyone on the back attempting say, the cape wrath trail in the UK with a flimsy tent intended for festivals. That said, we can probably all get by with 'worse' equipment. I think honing your kit, changing your setup, engaging with new technologies and stuff in the outdoor realm is just another way to engage with your activity when you're not doing it. I get a handful of "serious" trips a year, and love spending time planning them. There's no doubt that better kit has made more possible for me - enduring weather, moving further with lighter weights, remaining dry and safe in adverse conditions or on very long trips. Like anything, it's all about balance. Nobody wants to be that "all the gear no idea" guy. But there is a standard of equipment that is probably just safer when you're doing more difficult trips. But you're absolutely right that is shouldn't be the focus of all time outdoors. I guess what I'm saying is... I haven't really met anyone who is excluded from such activities by the desire for better stuff.
@paulvogel6303
@paulvogel6303 Ай бұрын
Yea, I didn’t get the whole backpackers judging others for having cheaper gear, never seen done or experienced that
@chriscomms.2399
@chriscomms.2399 3 ай бұрын
Great video young man ! I am 60 years old , and back in the day I just threw an old Boy Scout mess kit and canteen, compass, pocket knife, cordage , tarp and a zippo lighter in my old canvas backpack. This was in the jungle where I grew up and this was all I needed to have a great weekend. Anything else I needed, I made with my hands and pocket knife. I didn’t have a lot of money and made due with what I had.
@connorweidle5370
@connorweidle5370 3 ай бұрын
Great points, got started with free and cheap gear. That said I've upgraded most everything. My old gear didn't get thrown away, still makes great loaner gear. Great way to introduce gearless friends to the outdoors.
@neilorourke5425
@neilorourke5425 3 ай бұрын
Still using boots instead of the trendy runners. My boots have kept shale/talus from shredding my feet. Last boots deserved a Viking funeral for their long life. Tried and true beats trendy and new.
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've got boxes of similarly-acquired "spare gear" to loan friends and family that don't have any should they want to join us. It's still good gear, it's only been replaced because I've found something that suits my personal needs better. But it served me well enough in my earlier camps, it can serve someone else equally well.
@dyingfetus87
@dyingfetus87 Ай бұрын
why did you receive a bunch of free gear? you've been out there taking out campers?
@paulvogel6303
@paulvogel6303 Ай бұрын
@@neilorourke5425gotta say not into the whole hiking shoes thing, especially for anything slightly rough.
@paulvogel6303
@paulvogel6303 Ай бұрын
@@wolf1066same, I’ve probably got enough to take abt 3 people in the summer
@rorymarsh9264
@rorymarsh9264 3 ай бұрын
The only reliably waterproof rain jacket I have ever owned is a $1 festival rain poncho. No water gets through, I always take one on multi day trips.
@simonrangeley
@simonrangeley 3 ай бұрын
Ponchos can be great in the right situation. Picking your way along an exposed mountain ridge in the wind is not a place to wear one.
@GLu-qc6vn
@GLu-qc6vn 3 ай бұрын
I've done this when there was little chance of continuous rain, and the trail didn't go through dense brush at all. But I do bring a bit of waterproof packing tape for repairs, and even a second backup disposable poncho, for better safety from hypothermia. In much of Asia, and on Amazon in the US, you can buy disposable raincoats rather than ponchos. These work better in windy conditions, but accumulate more condensation. If one uses a plastic poncho, packing tape can seal the sides, and a strap or length of cord can make a waist belt to reduce water ingress in windy conditions. Still, for most multi-day trips, with moderate chance of rain, a cheap nylon or polyester rain jacket or poncho is safer. (Make sure it's seam sealed.)
@smellybearc7411
@smellybearc7411 3 ай бұрын
Very true. My 200 dollar goretex jacket failed after just a few days in the rain
@hithere5553
@hithere5553 2 ай бұрын
Only real rainPROOF gear is rubberized/impermeable layer, and those come with their own problems (moisture retention mostly.)
@carrotsandrunning
@carrotsandrunning 3 ай бұрын
I love it when people say they're going for a hike for exercise, and then spend thousands to shave off grams of weight. A lot of gear plays on safety fears also, even though hiking is safer than ever. I'm not even sure it really has the sense of adventure that it used to have.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
And gear is better than ever too! It doesn’t matter what logo it has.
@mason7438
@mason7438 3 ай бұрын
There’s a difference between day hikes and thru hikes. Safety is important when you’re hours or even days away from civilization. Have you been hiking in parks? Go into the wilderness. It definitely still has the same sense of adventure
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
@@mason7438I primarily hike in wilderness areas.
@PatRiot-le7rd
@PatRiot-le7rd 3 ай бұрын
I love it when people say they are going hiking for exercise, and then they get into a car instead of walking to the trailhead.
@rockclimbinghacks9222
@rockclimbinghacks9222 3 ай бұрын
How the fuck am I supposed to walk to the trailhead? It's illegal and I'd get run over by a car.
@andystaveley237
@andystaveley237 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Josh, a refreshing outlook. I've just spent 3 weeks hiking across northern England. At the end of the day hiking in cold & wet weather is hard and sometimes challenging no matter how expensive or modern your gear is. This is when your spirit to keep going comes into play, there is always sunshine after rain. Cheers 😊
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Great mindset, glad you enjoyed!
@andreameigs1261
@andreameigs1261 3 ай бұрын
1:21 Jeans were hiking pants, and ski pants, climbing pants, and hunting pants for a LOT of people if you grew up in or before the 80's. I would not recommend them for most people, but if that's all you have, you shouldn't let it stop you from going on a hike. Just make sure you're staying at lower altitudes and closer to civilization and check the weather, and above all else, take an extra set of dry clothes in a dry bag of some kind.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
For easy hikes, sure! But I’ve seen people hiking with them in the winter. Jeans are cotton and won’t wick moisture nor dry out, so if you get them wet by whatever means and it gets cold, you’re stuffed. Buying a cheap and well fitted pair of hiking pants from decathlon or other solves the issue 👌
@Leif-s9w
@Leif-s9w 3 ай бұрын
@@betterhiking Of course some old second hand pair of wool army pants will work great, unless it's especially hot out.
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 3 ай бұрын
@@Leif-s9w Yeah, my early replacements for jeans was Army Surplus stuff.
@andreameigs1261
@andreameigs1261 Ай бұрын
@channel-j9t A wide-brimmed Arctic Air sun hat I got from Ace Hardware and long sleeve, button up shirt beats the pants off of my OR sun hoody and very light ballcap. Because it keeps far more sun off my face and it's also cooler because it lets all the hot air from my neck area escape, even if I have the collar popped up (which I usually do). I don't know what the shirt is made of- it's just some button up I got from Old Navy years ago- nothing fancy. For summer, it's probably fine if the shirt is cotton as long as you've got something else you can wear if it gets soaked and you need to be warm. That slower drying time may even be of great benefit in summer because you can get it wet at any water source, put it on, and you've got evaporative cooling. Of course, that may not be something you want to do when backpacking.
@marleyterania_
@marleyterania_ 3 ай бұрын
Spot on man. There was literal years between me getting my first yearnings to go hiking and actually doing it because i was consumed with having the right gear and thought that if i didnt, id end up lost at worst and at beat having a terrible time. Its lead me to taking so much unnecessary gear in which made it so not enjoyable and increased the risk of injury. We dont need a safety net, we just need to be present with what we're doing. Good gears worth it, especially in extreme conditions, but ive learned to just have a go and get out there. It feels good being able to rough it a bit.
@GrandElemental
@GrandElemental 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, couldn't agree with you more! I also think that less "optimal" gear that you are comfortable with and know how to use is much more valuable than the latest fashion anyway. Also, it's really good practice to take inventory of your stuff time to time. I have honestly discovered many pieces of gear I have gotten as a present, put them into the closet and forgetting them completely, until I decided to take thorough inventory yearly. Gear is just gear, the experience, both of the trip and your own, is what matters.
@BlueWithGreenPatches
@BlueWithGreenPatches 3 ай бұрын
A lot of hiking / camping vlogs are just extended adverts. It's nice to hear someone say it. I hiked the yorkshire 3 peaks (26 miles) in a pair of running trainers with my food in an old crinkled tesco bag. That was some time ago and I do have better gear now but it was no less fun. The outdoors has become more about shopping than getting outside for most people.
@natehikes
@natehikes 3 ай бұрын
You blew away my expectations for this video. This needs more views. Great job! 👊
@uncle_toobs
@uncle_toobs 2 ай бұрын
This is great content! I've wasted many weekends watching gear videos rather than hiking or bikepacking. Thanks for the eye opening video.
@sebparkes
@sebparkes 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video. So refreshing to hear this perspective. I know I'm guilty of getting sucked into the marketing and wanting stuff that I really don't need. Thank you
@phtumshk
@phtumshk 3 ай бұрын
on the flip side some of my best gear has been picked up pre owned from outdoor consumerists needing the next lot of must haves. Top vid, nice one!
@trikyy7238
@trikyy7238 3 ай бұрын
Ha ha, good one! I've noticed that great many people geared up for the coof and they are now practically giving away nice stuff.
@adri_climb
@adri_climb 3 ай бұрын
Wow, this really re shows me my consume addiction. I would love to go more outdoor with frieds, climbing and hiking. Be in nature is so rewarding. You don't need much, to have a good time. Thx for the video.
@zacharysmith4649
@zacharysmith4649 2 ай бұрын
This is such an important topic in outdoor sports that needs to be discussed more. Excellent video!
@dyingfetus87
@dyingfetus87 Ай бұрын
are you serious? the most not necessary BASIC comment ever. absolutely disgusting.
@kayohjayeye3929
@kayohjayeye3929 3 ай бұрын
Mostly good points you bring up. Being mindful of all consumption is a practice most of us would benefit from. My body is breaking down, but my desire to backpack hasn't, so lightweight gear has been the direction for me. Even for an overnight, it's much more forgiving:)
@jorge1734
@jorge1734 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad someone finally made a video about something that's been bugging me for a long time. Thank you for bringing attention to this! Your conclusions at the end resonates strongly with me. I find that the best way to combat this at an individual level is buying second hand (cheaper, more environmentally friendly, and often still really high quality, and your money doesn't go to these corpos). Specially for beginners I recommend buying second hand. Half of the time you won't even know what gear is good for you anyway. Better make that mistake on a cheap second hand purchase than on some expensive marketing with a fancy logo. Ironically enough, the reason the second hand market is great for buying shit is precisely because of the first-hand market consumerism that fuels it.
@max27955
@max27955 2 ай бұрын
Great video mate, this is a problem with so many hobbies its time we normalise reusing stuff we have and buy what we need
@TheWolfhoundSabre
@TheWolfhoundSabre 3 ай бұрын
in 2015 I joined my brother for my first overnight backpacking trip. I went on amazon and bought an $80 set of low quality Chinese, brandless Backpack, tent, and sleeping bag. Spent $10 on a stove. Bought some fuel, some cans of food, packed (and wore) jeans and t shirts and wore my decade old work boots because I didn't own any hiking boots. My pack weighed in at nearly 80lbs. It got to 18°F that night and my tent filled with condensation by morning. I was unbelievably grateful for that morning fire. That experience changed my life and my perspective on what it means to enjoy the outdoors. I've gone backpacking once a year every year since and have upgraded my equipment one or two pieces at a time according to what I feel would make my stay in the wild more enjoyable. You're right, the only barrier to entry is the will to do it. If you want to hike, hike with what you've got first. Then, if you enjoy it and seek to do it more, you can justify purchasing more or higher quality gear.
@isaiahskinner2902
@isaiahskinner2902 3 ай бұрын
Right on, Friend. I hike in work boots too :0) Get out there and enjoy what is with what you have!
@farstrider79
@farstrider79 3 ай бұрын
Also, maybe don't go your first trip when it's going to be 18 degrees!😂 Below 40 or so is when the more expensive stuff starts to be worth it.
@coor0kun
@coor0kun 3 ай бұрын
For some newbies, even $80 gear could be a barrier. Ask friends and coworkers who camp if you can borrow gear, most of us are excited for others to be introduced to the hobby. Rental gear is another great option!
@falcon5751
@falcon5751 3 ай бұрын
Yes exactly. I stand by it. Although I must say I made my choices very quickly. Due to space issues I have already decided on upgrading my backpack. I have tried every packing method under the sun (that I could manage) with that backpack from decathlon. But a more modulair one is my preference so I coughed up the money and ordered it.
@falcon5751
@falcon5751 3 ай бұрын
@@coor0kunexactly, like I mentioned. Since I enjoy it my starting backpack can be someone else’s starting backpack too
@petercruz1993
@petercruz1993 3 ай бұрын
“You should seek to find out what you need from your own experiences”. A very salient point. Whenever I buy anything expensive I write a list of the things I need and try and stick to them. You’re right that the consumers is a big part of this trend, a I believe people actually find part of the outdoors hobby is to optimise gear. “Analysis paralysis” is a form of enjoyment for some. 10/10 video. Subbed 🇦🇺
@AdventureswithReidandTiff
@AdventureswithReidandTiff 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Getting outside and having adventures is much more important than having all the best gear. Choosing good quality items that work for you as an individual can last for years instead of one season.
@jorisev
@jorisev 3 ай бұрын
It's the law of diminishing returns. The first motivation to buy more expensive gear is to increase the level of comfort. But, at some point you are spending large amounts of money for only an incremental increase in (perceived) comfort level. And then as you rightly mention there is the relatively new 'fashion' aspect for outdoor clothing specifically (not packs, tents etc.), where Arcteryx is like a different form of Gucci, for example. It's expensive mainly due to the logo.
@hendrixinfinity3992
@hendrixinfinity3992 3 ай бұрын
This is it. I only buy new gear if i wear the old stuff out, and only upgrade if the kit is holding me back from a specific goal. My most used sleep system cost me around £300 all-in. My 3 season tent cost around £300, pad around £100, bag about £200, and I don't use it for 90% of trips. This year of great trips at low cost convinced me to stop buying s***. I put all the stuff I use rarely on a high shelf so I'm always reminded that I already have kit and don't need more.
@jimbrown9885
@jimbrown9885 2 ай бұрын
My Arc'teryx Atom is my favorite piece of clothing ever. I also have a generic version of one of their popular hardshells for 1/5th the price and quite like it.
@jorisev
@jorisev 2 ай бұрын
@@jimbrown9885 Of course they make good quality clothing. I can also mention that I recently bought an Arc'teryx hardshell. I got it for a very challenging expedition in Greenland, BUT I am now also using it to cycle to work. (because why not, it was expensive enough, there is no point in only using it for the mountains).
@paulvogel6303
@paulvogel6303 Ай бұрын
Well put
@lysan1445
@lysan1445 3 ай бұрын
Valid points. I fell into this trap so profoundly that I even indebted myself, thinking I wouldn't be safe outdoors without the best gear. Then I came across a book about Grandma Gatewood, who hiked the Appalachian Trail with plain sneakers, a self-sown sack, and a shower curtain for rain protection. That was an eye-opener.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, if you really wanted to hike, you’d go and do it with what you have. The caveat being that you still need to make sure you’re prepared and will be safe, and that also depends on personal ability and resourcefulness.
@lysan1445
@lysan1445 3 ай бұрын
@@betterhiking True. Being prepared is more a matter of skills than about expensive gear.
@roycereinhart-brown2549
@roycereinhart-brown2549 3 ай бұрын
I really like this video. 👍 It show cases the mental barrier between the one commodity that is free to us all- the outdoors. NAVY SEALS in Vietnam wore Levi jeans in the jungles because their ACUs weren’t cutting it, Dave Canterbury is a big believer of military surplus and thrift store items. As a Park Ranger of 8 years and a Wilderness Skills instructor of 5 - I learned a lot during survival school, the power of wool, the importance of weight vs rate, and how to meet the priorities of survival without a backpack full of gear. I came up with a saying; “wool for warmth, and leather for weather.” I trained in Washington State from 2016-2017 while going to survival school- in that cold wet rainforest it was darn near impossible to stay dry all the time, gore-Tex jackets ripped when scouting off trail, and polyester fleeces once wet soaked us and stayed cold until we could dry them. Leather jackets we thrifted and leather hoods we made were heavily waxed and dried to almost an armor in the oven - leather is windproof and was treated to be water proof - and even if it did get wet, our wool sweaters kept us dry or at the very least warm. Nowadays I wear cotton/poly elastic patrol pants that are heavy duty, dry quickly, and sport cargo pockets. The old saying “cotton kills in the cold when it gets wet.” Is applicable namely in the winter or extremely temperate environments - it’s more than passable here in New England. And simple pull over rain pants and a rain poncho do great at keeping the rain out. People have come to rely too much on their gear these days and not enough on developing skills. During survival school we backpacked over 700 miles all over the state of Washington- we learned how to make due with only the basic 5 Cs of survivability, Then I came up with the 5 Cs of backpacking (which I teach to my students). If adventurers are looking to get into the outdoors, camping, backpacking, bushcraft or survival, or Wilderness careers - everyone can start with simple cargo pants and a good long sleeved collard button down, the basic 5 C’s, and some basic videos free on KZbin. That’s how I started, grew up watching Survivorman and man vs Wild, practiced techniques shows (some - not all), and used those skills I developed to get me through survival school. The wild is free, hiking is free, and the lessons you learn from being out in nature are priceless.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your perspective. Even just learning simple, fundamental survival skills goes a long way for being able to maximise whatever equipment you have. And importantly understanding exactly what you have and it’s use cases. Sometimes Goretex is useless, but sometimes you can’t use burly leather coats (such as for alpinism & climbing). Trust in your knowledge and skills and the rest comes easily ✌️
@Seamus3051
@Seamus3051 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant video mate. The old adage of," A fool and his money are soon parted" is more true today than it has ever been. A leisurely stroll through the Cotswolds doesn't requiring gearing up for a climb of Everest or K2. Cheers.
@julieaz1560
@julieaz1560 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful. I've subscribed. I just wanted to let you know how meaningful this video has been for me. I'm 42 years old and just starting to get outside. From age 16 to 37, I was partnered with someone who didn't "allow" me to work, have friends, go out after sunset, ride the city bus, ride a bike, go on a walk alone etc. I got out and spent several years in intense psychotherapy. I'm feeling safer now but still feel extremely unsafe and "wrong" for being outdoors, even on a simple walk to the grocery store. My goal is to just camp at a campsite and maybe one day, go on a hike and sleep outside (I understand this is called "backpacking" LOL). Trying to shop for basic gear in 2024 has been overwhelming! But I've managed to stick with spending only on basic backpacking necessities with the intention of buying it for life. You seem so young and down to earth, and I admire your effort in reminding others how to simply be outside. I'm surprised your video even popped up as a suggestion, and I'm thankful it did. Cheers from Arizona, USA.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, hopefully some time soon you will gather the courage to do an overnight walk. I can imagine that it would be a big leap for you, but stick to it! That’s all you can do, small steps each time and one day you’ll be there.
@walkiri
@walkiri 2 ай бұрын
In some way we know it but it's awesome to hear you say it again with your thoughts. I would say that this extends to every aspect of our life..
@kryptoniterazor
@kryptoniterazor 2 ай бұрын
Thoughtful video with great takes. I have definitely had that thought of "oh I would totally go out and do more challenging trails if I just had this piece of gear." And some items are genuinely game changers at high altitude - the lighter cookware, the warmer gloves, the nicer socks - but none of them are truly necessary. I like to read about the early 20th century mountaineers and the crazy gear they hiked in - 2 wool sweaters, leather boots, big long alpine mountain poles. It's important to know your gear well and only rely on items you really trust for survival, but it's more important to make good decisions and not overreach your abilities because you feel invincible in those cool new boots.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 2 ай бұрын
More expensive doesn’t necessarily mean better. The best gloves for alpine climbing (In my opinion and many others) are $20.
@vincbike9279
@vincbike9279 3 ай бұрын
Great video! I was addicted to gears and got cured by buying 3k€ (real value >6k€) of high end hiking gears from outlet shops. Since then, I'm a happy camper, I always find everything I need in my collection and I have to say that almost all the items I bought are great and really tough, they will last for years. I spent countless hours reading, watching influencers content and gain a quite good knowledge of what works or not for me in real life afterwards. Today, I simply replace what is used knowing exactly what I need.Fighting fire with fire...
@TourAmoure
@TourAmoure Ай бұрын
Its weirdly the same for me.
@harsimarsingh3625
@harsimarsingh3625 3 ай бұрын
just the video i needed today. great job with this man!
@marthinlarsen1473
@marthinlarsen1473 Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing some positive motivation.
@VincentSmith-i7o
@VincentSmith-i7o 3 ай бұрын
I am still using a solo cup and lid with a small cooker inside which I bought as an army cadet in 1967
@tasmanianhutadventures
@tasmanianhutadventures 3 ай бұрын
Hit the nail on the head mate....I don't even subscribe to big KZbin channels who try to tell you what to buy and best gear and all that bullshit...make the decision yourself and talk to other hikers or friends about what gear you got and there are better options...done well mate love from Hobart
@killac45
@killac45 3 ай бұрын
I love these kind of videos, thank you for sharing your thoughts
@spacekez
@spacekez 3 ай бұрын
thank you for this video - this really hits hard since im currently preparing my gear for my first multi day hike and researching extensively on youtube for how to get ready. I've done hiking before - many times! but the idea of entering the unknown with "subpar" equipment worries me, since there's extensive information out there on how to optimise your backpacking kit. "is what i have really good enough?" im thankful for your content and the likes of Miranda Goes Outside /Eric Hanson because you guys make hiking so much more accessible to everyone. We don't always need the $500 gear - something sturdy from Decathlon can do the trick and not leave a gaping hole in your wallet. there's no need to keep upgrading if you're not ready to yet! i love the idea of making things work within your means.
@gyratingseacow595
@gyratingseacow595 3 ай бұрын
I love a good video with no BS. Thanks for giving me a reality check that I very much needed. I already have enough, and I know that now. I got into long hikes about two months ago. I did realize that a TON of outdoor channels are nothing but repeated gear promotions and not much substance about hiking/outdoors as the act itself. The only thing I really bought in the last two months that was needed was a sleeping bag (for the incoming winter) and a tent. I always had a hint in my mind I was going overboard but this brought it home for me. Thanks again for giving me a proper slap in the face. I'll be coming back for more. Subbed and liked for sure.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Thanks mate I’m glad you found some value out of the video.
@Chimp_No_1
@Chimp_No_1 3 ай бұрын
This is the most sensible video I have ever watched ! Thank you for sharing !
@camilogoyenechea757
@camilogoyenechea757 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Great video man!
@marambula
@marambula 3 ай бұрын
Cheers to this video and this message! -May the HIKE be with You-
@ZachAgape
@ZachAgape 2 ай бұрын
excellent video and important topic to cover!!
@chrismoore600
@chrismoore600 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding video nice to hear some common sense in a world of always needing the newest thing.
@warren6899
@warren6899 3 ай бұрын
From South Africa 110 % on point. Spent 2 years conscription in the Bush with heavy. Military issue gear..... 2 whole stuffing years hiking in the Bush, and not a single bit of commercial gear....
@davepassey6276
@davepassey6276 3 ай бұрын
Your point about how folk used to cherish their gear was brief, but bears thinking about. I started hiking a decade before The Socials were a thing. A good proportion of UK hikers still swore by their beat up 1970's Karrimor canvas rucksac, and a pair of old, re-soled Scarpas, and un-fancy woolly layers. My Dad and I would joke about the good looking be-stubbled fitness models with their foot up on a rock, as seen in the outdoors catalogues. That was the rot setting in. Now everyone wants to be those models. Everything I had was no name or low end, but I did cherish that gear, because it got me outside, and to wear it meant I was going to do what I most love to do. Sometimes I got a bit wet, sometimes I got a bit cold, but those times were some of the best in my life, and set me up for a lifelong and profound love of the hills, that has seen me through the darkest times of my life. Those early hikes informed my choices of the mid-to-high end stuff I use these days, and every piece is carefully researched before purchase, is kept maintained and repaired as necessary, and only replaced when it is worn out. I was gifted a Paramo jacket in 2003, the most expensive bit of kit I ever had. It lasted me 18 years before I used their buyback scheme to replace it because the holes were getting silly. I actually kinda mourned it's passing, because I had done so much with it. I cherished that jacket.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
If people just cycle through gear every other week, they don’t develop a relationship with it. Once you spend a bit of time and make some memories with something, you naturally should want to keep it going in reasonable shape for as long as possible, even if it becomes obsolete compared to newer offerings.
@Womaninthewoods13
@Womaninthewoods13 3 ай бұрын
Hallelujah. Well said. Absolutely right on. When I was a personal trainer, I saw a lot of clients waste their enthusiasm on shopping for exercise outfits and accessories rather than on working out. So many hikers call themselves “gearheads” and are jumping on this super expensive ultralight movement. Why!? Thank you, thank you, thank you for this video. It is, a breath of fresh air. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Dfthg-bz3hp
@Dfthg-bz3hp Ай бұрын
Same happened with the gym - gymfluencers, clothing brands, latest trends. Very pathetic and cringe.
@beanzbeanz
@beanzbeanz 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. More people need to hear your message!
@jurekbarabanov5840
@jurekbarabanov5840 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. We all need more content like this. Also applicable to every other side of life, apart from backpacking 🙏🙏🙏
@colewormood6936
@colewormood6936 13 күн бұрын
Excellent video with a refreshing perspective. The great outdoors is intended for everybody to enjoy, it’s not any less beautiful with different brands.
@timwarneka5681
@timwarneka5681 3 ай бұрын
Well done, young sir! I’m a 57 year old hiker from the US and also a mental health professional. What you are saying is very important. Keep up the good work! I subscribed.
@BlueDragon00
@BlueDragon00 3 ай бұрын
i had exactly same thought, on yt right now something like 75% hiking videos is about gear- thats sickening.
@jessehayden6578
@jessehayden6578 3 ай бұрын
Awesome vid man. Recently went on my first hike and did 3300 ft elevation 5miles. Prepared the best I could but we should have gotten there earlier as it was dark by the last 90min down. Although it was scary and we were ill prepared, I now crave the outdoors! 😂 So i’ve made gear lists and wishlists based on my practical experience and feel confident with buying the basic essentials. Probably gonna run me about 250-350$ total.
@Artificial-Stupidity
@Artificial-Stupidity Ай бұрын
Finally, someone pointed it out! Cheers for that. 👍
@ChaseMountains
@ChaseMountains 3 ай бұрын
well said mate.
@memyself2458
@memyself2458 2 ай бұрын
Sad creatures of habitt we are😢😢
@Lemmings19
@Lemmings19 Ай бұрын
I haven't been hiking or doing outdoors stuff for several years. Yesterday I was going to join a public biking group... everyone was absolutely decked out in high-end modern biking gear for a casual ride. It was so weird.
@AlienApe.
@AlienApe. 3 ай бұрын
What a fabulous message - entirely refreshing. Great job.
@raquelyustemartin
@raquelyustemartin 3 ай бұрын
Suuper good video! It opens my eyes for things i werent thinking about! Thank you, and super great job!!
@KevenMorin-h9g
@KevenMorin-h9g 2 ай бұрын
well presented. I really enjoyed your video! kuddo! brilliant job. nailed it
@JonathanOverstreet-j4e
@JonathanOverstreet-j4e 3 ай бұрын
Refreshing, my first trip backpacking trip I used a trash bag as a tarp/tent (performed well in the mild showers). Now I have a ton of gear but there was something simple and pure about not letting my lack of gear keep me from experiencing nature. Thanks for sharing!
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 3 ай бұрын
The trash bag poncho is an important piece of equipment for watching American football in November in the midwest, which usually involves getting rained on and then having the temperature drop below freezing.
@trtlduv07
@trtlduv07 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video! My fiance and I have always loved hiking and camping (since we were kids) and go often. We're planning to do our first backpacking trip together next April and are so excited. I haven't been since I did the entire lost coast trail in 8th grade with my school- it was incredible. I've been wanting to backpack again for so long. We're definitely trying to minimize cost and use what we have. I still have my backpack from 20 years ago (that I used on that trip). It's in great shape. It's sad how much people spend on new, popular gear. It's overconsumption and as you said "gearification."
@walkyourdog6584
@walkyourdog6584 3 ай бұрын
I just started backpacking again after a 25 year hiatus. I am in my 60's. The whole outdoors has been monetized. It isn't just the gear. The park passes, permits, etc. are extremely expensive. The trails are overcrowded and poorly maintained. The trails are lined with invasive weeds. There is human waste and toilet paper visible in many rest spots and camps. Very disturbing.
@heyheyhey1776
@heyheyhey1776 3 ай бұрын
There are also 70 million more people in the USA than there were 25 years ago and the outdoors are more glamorized with all the social media content, so more are getting outdoors. I’m constantly frustrated with the permits and barriers to the outdoors, and the increasing sign of human presence but I think the main issue with that is we just have so many people out there these days
@juliusenglund5608
@juliusenglund5608 3 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how restrictive it must feel to not be allowed to go into ""outdoors" because of all the park passes, permits, private lands etc. Here in Finland we have freedom to roam laws which gives everyone the right to camp or collect berries or mushrooms for example, no matter who owns the land. And all national parks, hiking trails etc are free
@walkyourdog6584
@walkyourdog6584 3 ай бұрын
@@juliusenglund5608 I would love to live there. My great grandparents immigrated from Finland to US. Don't know why.
@ciscoB2183
@ciscoB2183 3 ай бұрын
@@juliusenglund5608one day I will see your country. It’s on my bucket list.
@HighCentered
@HighCentered 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know where you are, but if you’re in the States, an America the Beautiful pass is only $80 for the year, and it gives you access to the National Parks and lands managed by the US Fish & Wildlife Service, Forest Service, Bureau of Land Management and more. Since you say you’re in your 60s, it’s only $20 a year if you’re 62+, or you can buy a lifetime senior pass for $80!
@mrfiddle7578
@mrfiddle7578 3 ай бұрын
AMAZING video , the best ive seen about outdoors/hiking and ive watched thousands..... really good job u got a new sub and thumbs up... Keep up the amazing work
@eewowoeowoeo
@eewowoeowoeo 3 ай бұрын
Love this vid, I personally spent 40 days in the brooks range of Alaska (the Arctic) with a 100l pack absolutely filled to the brim with random bs, and cheap bulk food. The thing was 90 pounds at the start of each loop, it made me ridiculously strong. You don’t need ultralight! Just get outside and enjoy it!
@IvanDP1967
@IvanDP1967 3 ай бұрын
Good advice. I started simple camping a couple of years ago after a long break. My full (basic) kit is mainly budget/unbranded gear which is both fairly lightweight and very low priced. 7.5-8kg and total cost around £300...... and I can camp very comfortably with this kit
@dgmstuart
@dgmstuart 3 ай бұрын
Mostly agree with what is said in this video, but personally all my big purchases have been due to _discomfort_ - having a bad time with an uncomfortable pack that was too heavy for my level of fitness, including a heavy tent, a raincoat which didn’t keep me dry and a pad that I got bad sleep on or wasn’t warm enough. Buying new gear has made me get out more and go further, having a better time while doing it.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with buying something you feel like you need, especially if it solves a critical problem you’ve identified through experience.
@sam8007
@sam8007 3 ай бұрын
Buying lightweight gear made it possible for me to go on multi day hikes in the first place. And it already lasts since so many years.
@cheesecake6696
@cheesecake6696 3 ай бұрын
I highly recommend hitting up 2nd hand shops (well not Patagonia worn wear), but local ones. I've managed to pick up €200 of clothes for €25 in the last few months.
@cannibalmanimal2336
@cannibalmanimal2336 Ай бұрын
why not Worn Wear?
@cheesecake6696
@cheesecake6696 Ай бұрын
@cannibalmanimal2336 I've just found it completely overpriced. Everything is 20% off original price and 10 years old. Prices should be min 50% off for anything over 5years old
@griffinakahori9242
@griffinakahori9242 3 ай бұрын
Wow this needs more views, really well put together
@Peakoilcompany
@Peakoilcompany 3 ай бұрын
Good message Josh! I came to this video by KZbin recommendation, and the title resonated, and is something I've been criticising all my outdoor life. Your message applies to almost all aspects of our lives, where big business have commodified all meaning and purpose, even our spirituality, while outsourcing meaningful work to globalism! No wonder our mental health statistics reveal torment. The phenomenon you're describing is particularly interesting in Australia, who have traditionally had some resistance to consumerism, particularly in the outdoors. But I've seen that change in very weird ways the past few decades. We have swags galore, not a particularly good form of shelter, but we like them for nostalgic reasons, to a time when consumerism wasn't a factor. A bygone era that is marketing message now. But we still use them, designed somewhere between a tent and a bedroll, set under amazingly cheap gazebos, that any stiff wind will destroy. Never mind though, the excessively expensive 4WD will get us out. And that describes one type of outdoor recreation, usually found free camping by a river, leaving behind enormous amounts of rubbish, fishing tackle, and even a dead deer or 6, right there in the river, like i found in the Buffalo River just 3 days ago. Another kind is a whole different class, found backcountry Falls Creek, or Hotham, under the pines of Arapiles, or on the boardwalk in Tasmania. My kids and I turned up at a a felestival for this kind not long ago, dressed in home made sheepskins, melton wool, carrying skis. We felt very out of place, and no one seemed curious about our oldschool clothing or equipment, let alone our methods and perspective. As you say, the identity of the outdoors person has been captured and is set and driven by the big brand industry. So much so we literally can't see anything else. The bushcraft seen, and to some extent, glamping, seems to search for a more heritage-based DIY identity, which is a positive turn to the old ways I think. Of course the marketing will soon follow, and we will struggle to maintain an authenticity again. Hopefully though, enough of those old ways will be recovered and passed on, so not so much of it is lost in this dark age of micro plastic and forevers.. Finally, in this essay of ac comment I've turned out to be writing here, we have to acknowledge that we've relied on cheap labour for too long, to bring us these gaudy products that lead us away from know-how and why. We've allowed it to become practically impossible to make our own gear here, maintaining a fair and reasonable economy of self sufficiency. We have to change this. Look to the old ways, before plastic and psychotic consumerism. Reduce the quantity of gear with realistic perspective and multi functional quality. Make it yourself or pay more for items that are locally produced, if you want to stop feeding the problem. Suscribed.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
You’ve touched on many points I have observed also. Modern outdoorsmen are different from old - follow a different philosophy, myself included. Thankfully I go about what I do by myself or with 1 other like minded walker, and we don’t think much alike to anyone else we’ve come across on the trail. This influences how we think about equipment and how we use it. Too much talk is on accumulating equipment rather than learning how to use it nowadays. But there is good equipment out there. I particularly like smaller brands - Aussie preferably where I can. Thanks for your comment and perspective 👍
@Peakoilcompany
@Peakoilcompany 3 ай бұрын
@@betterhiking no worries, I do understand. I'm in Eldorado, near Beechworth, making outdoor gear, innovating on old school materials. If you're ever in the area, stop by.
@dakitey1995
@dakitey1995 3 ай бұрын
Hi Josh, love the video. I've just returned from an overseas trip where i did alot of hiking, now I'm home in WA. I've just bought a load of gear to get into some of the local overnighters and progress into the multi-days, I've spent a $1000 (which isn't that much in hindsight) on a ultralight tent + quilt + sleeping pad. Hopefully these items will see much use for my new hobby, I also see alot of gear on facebook buy/sell groups which is reassuring if i end up not liking it and want to get some of my money back (I wonder if the items im seeing on these groups are overbuys or people giving up the hobby). The price threshold on some of these items is insane, $600 for a hyperlite backpack I think I might stick with my $100 Denali from anaconda for a bit longer, Cheers!
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
I rocked a Denali pack for a good few years. I still use it but for weighted hill climb training.
@randommoonwatcher6929
@randommoonwatcher6929 3 ай бұрын
This is just the video that I need! I started bagpackjng with cheap low quality but sufficient for my easy day hike, the moved on to overnight. Only purchased what I need for different season and hike. Never felt so much joyful before!
@kjh6395
@kjh6395 3 ай бұрын
I have to say that it is easier now than 10 years ago to start backpacking on a budget. There is so much more competition between big box stores and cottage companies. But some people have a tendency to get caught up in all the options that are available now. I agree with you that people are pressured into making unnecessary purchases by influencers, but this is not a black and white issue. It is important to have good quality gear if you are going into the backcountry. I did my first short overnight trip in cold, but dry, weather with cheap Walmart gear and it did alright. I tried a longer 3 day hike that involved a chilly rain with the same gear and it was a disaster. The clothing and backpack I had were not adequate for the conditions. I will never forget how miserable I was. You don’t have to have top of the line gear, but someone just breaking into backpacking would probably have to spend $500-$700 on the big 3 to have a safe time in the outdoors because weather can change quickly in the mountains. Not to mention that sometimes the gear you pick doesn’t work for you. I started hammock camping because I already had an eno hammock, but in hindsight I would have been better off just buying a middle of the road tent and sleeping pad.
@RodriguezBunch
@RodriguezBunch 3 ай бұрын
All facts, you just completely change my mind, I have everything I need, thanks!
@bernhardneumueller
@bernhardneumueller 3 ай бұрын
needed to hear this thanks!
@Multiklaaas
@Multiklaaas 3 ай бұрын
Wow... I really needed to hear that!! Guilty as charged, spending more time researching what I need for a weekend hike than actually hiking 😢 Thanks for this much needed message.
@rockclimbinghacks9222
@rockclimbinghacks9222 3 ай бұрын
It's fun and necessary to plan and research
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
But pointless if you end up doing nothing… (and yes, it is necessary).
@Multiklaaas
@Multiklaaas 3 ай бұрын
Yeah agreed, some planning and research is important, like figuring out where to go and what to see is fun, and at some level you need to plan what to pack so that you can be comfortable/safe, but I was focusing primarily on the gear side of things, which I now feel is a bit of a waste of my time if I don't end up camping/hiking. Anyway, thanks for the input guys!
@youarenotalone508
@youarenotalone508 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. This needed to be said, for myself, everyone else too.
@jupyder4838
@jupyder4838 2 ай бұрын
Hey man, I am glad this video popped up on my feed. I agree with you and I am actually confused on why and how so many people fall into this trap - marketing doing its job I suppose. Everyone at my job (an outdoor company) knows me as the "overlander" and I always laugh. Naw, I'm just car camping. They all expect me to have all of this crazy gear and its literally just basic camping equipment I throw in the back of my Jeep and roof box. I get asked what my next piece of gear is and I just say, "whatever I need to continue staying dry, warm, fed, and hydrated." I do most of my shopping at Sierra Trading Post and just do some basic research on what budget gear will get the job done without being so cheap it breaks down and ends up in a landfill. Gear renewel is also cheap and easy to perform, and also allows you to know your gear inside and out. Cheers.
@varpuvirolainen1793
@varpuvirolainen1793 3 ай бұрын
What a mind opening and important video. Thank you!
@res2277
@res2277 3 ай бұрын
Very good point here. Thank's for making that video.
@dsmith9572
@dsmith9572 3 ай бұрын
I started backpacking in the '60s. I like the new lite weight stuff. And Patagonia has proven to be pretty tough. But generally you're right about gear envy being stupid. The most valuable bit of gear, the thing you really need, is the people you're going with. Second is knowing about where you are going, water, weather and such. These are especially true if you get further from your day-to-day experience, heat, cold, long hauls.
@UncleTravelingMatt2
@UncleTravelingMatt2 3 ай бұрын
The memories I have in the mountains are never about what gear I had for whatever we were doing. It’s always been about the crazy adventure we had.
@Mochachinoexfk
@Mochachinoexfk 3 ай бұрын
The problem isn’t influencers, or the businesses. It’s the individuals, the consumer falling for this, living a consumers lifestyle.
@kyly7928
@kyly7928 3 ай бұрын
So it's the bears fault if it runs it the trap you set up for him?
@Mochachinoexfk
@Mochachinoexfk 3 ай бұрын
@ if that analogy gives you comfort for falling for influencers or a consumer lifestyle then yes. Otherwise, no, as I don’t think it’s comparable to compare human intelligence to a bear…
@pedro_claro
@pedro_claro 12 күн бұрын
I’ve watched this one per month since finding it. It’s a great video, one that hits home unfortunately (im not well off yet I have been getting obsessed over gear instead of using whatever and having fun). And as you said, it’s applicable to all sorts of hobbies not just backpacking. One of the biggest problems is offseason - a time when it’s inappropriate for the hobby and we naturally consume more content, and get draw into the consumerism ways and gear head videos. Basically we need a winter hobby, and a summer hobby. Something proper to do when it’s too hot or too cold
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 12 күн бұрын
Hiking is an all-season activity! Unfortunately winter hiking necessitates having more gear by nature of needing to be prepared for different conditions. There are still cost effective ways to get into it and traps to fall into if you aren’t careful. Also depends on your location. In Australia for example, you don’t need much more than normal 3-season gear and you can easily buy gear to supplement what you already own (an over quilt for a summer sleeping bag, foam sleeping pad for under your current one etc). Camping decisions (ie staying below the treeline) also reduces the need for specialised winter equipment.
@Swobokhan
@Swobokhan 3 ай бұрын
Thanx mate. Good to see there are still hikers out there and not just company ads. When I started hiking some 40 years ago, I had not a single piece of gear. I borrowed a pack, a frameless sack, hurting me all day long. A sleeping bag, more of a summer blanket. And other useless stuff. But what I gained on this hike was experience! When you start today, you watch hundreds of videos before you do the first move, before you start smelling wood and seeing your first deer. All you have is second or third hand experience. You heard of sore shoulders due to a shitty pack, a sleepless night due to a shitty sleeping bag. And you ‘learned’ that you can solve all problems with enough money. What you didn’t learn is that the best investment is in you. Train to carry a 15kg pack instead of spending tons of money to make it a 12kg pack. Don’t leave essential gear at home, just to save 100 grams of weight. I’ve seen hikers out in the bush with no IFAK, carrying just blister pads. In the Canadian bush with bears, wolfs and a merciless nature. “Congratulations, you died 500 grams lighter!” Hiking is a mindset! It is not a show off of your monthly pay check!
@masone4957
@masone4957 3 ай бұрын
Solid video, it’s definitely changed my thinkings towards this. I really like the idea of only buying something new if you find it out yourself from psychical practise that it’s something you need, not just want.
@betterhiking
@betterhiking 3 ай бұрын
Yes! It means that it actually gets used and typically you cherish it more.
@calebe16
@calebe16 3 ай бұрын
I’ve done some day hikes and now I’m trying to buy my first ever camping kit. It’s been totally overwhelming and confusing and I can totally connect with what you just said. Thank you for the eye opening video.
@calebe16
@calebe16 3 ай бұрын
Ps. Still, understanding the right gear for the situation is valuable and better to learn through advice instead of experience. It’s also a bit of respect for the nature. Everything is alright until it’s not, and then things can go bad real quick. I almost lost my toes to frostbite for using the wrong shoes and socks. Even though I didn’t lose anything, it was painful and needed over a month to heal/renew the damaged/dead cells.
@CaptainWillyandTheWonderMonkey
@CaptainWillyandTheWonderMonkey 3 ай бұрын
Very good video and insight into the outdoor product business! As a climber I tend to hold on to clothing for a while or buy used or extremely discounted sale items. When direct buying from the brands that you mentioned you are essentially paying a pro athlete to be able to travel the world and advertise their brand, while you work hard to afford that expensive gear. Patagonia had the right message years ago when Yvon Chouinard said "Don't buy this jacket" in an advertisement, stating that if you don't need it don't buy it. That company is much different now though.
@Thedagda801
@Thedagda801 3 ай бұрын
Excellent observation. I’ve been guilty of gear envy myself. Buying more stuff, but still using my tried and trusted kit everytime.
@Byrhtnoð
@Byrhtnoð 3 ай бұрын
In the army we used to call the gear obsessed guys "Geardos": Gear + Weirdo = Geardo
@disartster
@disartster 3 ай бұрын
Love this video! I'm a complete beginner and it was a journey of exploration and anxiety to get all the gear. It's also pretty ironic, how each time I thought "I would need that for this one time only" xD It started with hiking boots. I was convinced it's an unnecessary splurge for just one (first ever) trip to mountains. My non-outdoorsy-at-all partner, however, had some safety concerns and intended to buy himself a pair anyway. I was so grateful for grabbing a pair as well when we were walking on slippery rocks during the rain on our last day - there was no way I would get out of that adventure unharmed in my city sneakers. Those boots weren't overly expensive at all, but it still was a splurge for me. As for everything else, we've used our cycling backpacks and the only other thing I bought was a water bladder which was a lifesaver for a chronic water sipper like me )) Fast forward to this spring and I decided I want to do a 5-7 day through-hike solo. All local, staying at accommodations, but there was no way everything I needed would fit in a small cycling pack. Thus, a backpack was purchased - from a decent brand, but on a cheaper side of the range and a discounted model. The backpack volume was chosen with "I don't carry any camping equipment anyway". With added weight and previous knee injury, I decided to try trekking poles as well. Started with borrowing from a friend, realized I need a different model, got one and was really glad I did. Not even a month later I decided to go on another through hike, but this time with camping (zero previous experience at all stages of this story btw). Borrowed some cheap equipment from a friend, tested it in the backyard and realized that going really cheap isn't worth it. Besides, I was going solo and all double-digit costing tents were heavy af. But I also didn't want to spend too much... to the point my amount of research and anxiety started to concern my partner. My crown jewel of gear became a 2-person Durston tent (lightweight, and I've had poles already) - just in case anyone accompanies me someday. Pricey, but I fell in love with the design. Other than that I tried my best to find reasonably priced gear, using discounts and sales. Ended up with a left-zipper sleeping bag, but it's not an issue to me, really xD The only item from that shopping spree still to get properly used is a water filter, but I have a tendency of running out of water, so it's a safety feature more than a comfort item. It was still a heckin' lot of an entry cost for a hobby, but at least I'm sure it will serve me well. I'm already eyeing a few items for the future, but only once my existing ones fall apart entirely or get too small for my purposes.
@TheOpenboater
@TheOpenboater 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your video. I'm at "saturation point" when it comes to hiking, canoeing, and camping gear. Much of it has been bought second hand. But I still watch review videos of camping gear, just in case something "better" comes along, and I often yearn for some of the new fancy lightweight stuff.
@ourlittletravelvlog
@ourlittletravelvlog 3 ай бұрын
Been saying this for years. And the big box stores have put specialty shops with people who have the most valuable items- their knowledge- out of business. It’s crazy! I used to love to go to REI to shop because the people there had the skill set and could get me what I needed - now - the sales people are lacking and the prices are ridiculous.
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