Gear for Long Term Wilderness Survival

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ENDURANCE ROOM

ENDURANCE ROOM

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@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Old school gear vs modern? What are your thoughts? Hope you are all doing awesome! Happy holidays, gang.
@Canadian_Craftsman
@Canadian_Craftsman 4 жыл бұрын
I totally enjoy both, there's a place for each I feel like UL when long treks and short term camping but for long hauls or longterm I want that tried and true bombproof vintage gear!!
@sparrowflying864
@sparrowflying864 4 жыл бұрын
If i was going long term it would be a mix of both. I would take some canvas tarps maybe even get a polish lavu and some wool blankets , wool socks and wool anorak a stainless pot and carbon steel frying pan on the modern side a titanium pot, and a synthetic sleeping bag and a solar charger. Maybe get a small titanium tent stove for the lavu. Also a good tarp to use as a bathtub in the lavu. I know that there are a lot of down bags out there but if it gets wet you're done. So if i was going long term I would probably go with wool blankets and a synthetic bag. You gotta be careful with bivvy bag setups too. Most bivvy bags are not breathable. There is a kestrel bivvy bag that is breathable but it's not the one that you featured. So if you breathed into your bag while sleeping your breath will put moisture in the bag and you will wake up wet. In freezing temps not good. So if your going to go that route get a breathable bivvy bag.
@Canadian_Craftsman
@Canadian_Craftsman 4 жыл бұрын
@@sparrowflying864 lol check out my hot tent lavvu video I have everything you described and then some setup proper for the apocalypse!!(= oh and the military bivvy "Gortex" is the best extremely breathable and about the only type, great choice in gear bro😁✊🔥
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
@@sparrowflying864 The MMS bivvy? That wasn’t my choice, but you just leave it half zipped and it releases condensation if that is an issue. I have a canvas bivvy myself. As for shelter, there is not a lot of room in a Polish lavvu. For overnight camping, maybe a couple days, ok, but long term living in the woods, you would be better suited with a larger option.
@Reject_Modernity1776
@Reject_Modernity1776 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your approach of knowledge vs latest/greatest gear. As a culture of consumers, we have become fatally dependent on buying our way to survival. Its an expensive error in money and possibly our lives. Your channel is one my favorites.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you much, I appreciate it. It is good seeing options and techniques with different gear, but most of the time it is far too much on the end of materialism than use or purpose. Cheers
@mr.wildernessoutdoors1281
@mr.wildernessoutdoors1281 4 жыл бұрын
A good mixture of the two would probably be the best in my opinion Great topic and very well explained
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thank you, appreciate it.
@elduendeoscuro
@elduendeoscuro 4 жыл бұрын
Old school: canvas and wool; on the negative side: they weigh more and you will need more weight to be able to withstand low temperatures without fire; On the positive side you can combine them with fire without problems. Modern synthetic materials: they will weigh less and provide you with more comfort at low temperatures for the same weight; but on the negative side do not bring them near the fire. To this day I favour (for my bug out bag) the synthetic options (the weight is important for me), but I keep a light afghan blanket (that can cover my bivy or me) to get closer to the fire.
@marblemountainwoodworks8475
@marblemountainwoodworks8475 3 жыл бұрын
This is solid, no nonesense information. So many of these KZbin bushcraft channels just try to sell you rei gear in the videos. This is truth through and through!
@thornporters948
@thornporters948 4 жыл бұрын
Another cool vid Jess.👍 Like you I have a mix of the old school, wool and canvas and modern synthetic and each have their pros and cons. Personally, I tend to favour the natural materials for their out and out durability and their safety around a fire even if they come with a weight penalty; I just try and carry less kit.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thorn! My thoughts are right along those same lines. I do like seeing the newer gear and options it may provide, but the old gear still maintains its value and is often worth the extra weight.
@johnspencer7291
@johnspencer7291 3 жыл бұрын
corporals corner sent me here,great chanell,subbed
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 3 жыл бұрын
thanks John, welcome to the channel!
@ottawavalleybushcraft
@ottawavalleybushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
I read My Side of the Mountain in grade school. I credit that book and my time in cubs and scouts with sparking my own interest in the outdoors. I give Les Stroud and David Canterbury a shout out too for sparking my renewed interest in bushcraft and survival skills later on in my twenties. Great channel my man! Come explore the Ottawa area if you ever head up north 🇨🇦
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! That book really lit a flame for me. Dave inspired me for sure. I saw a few episodes of Dual Survival before finding him on YT. ALONE was the big catalyst though. I randomly saw a bit of season 1 and just made up my mind I was going to do this stuff. Thanks again. Canada is a beautiful county. Cheers
@fixedG
@fixedG 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you don't try to be the one answer to this question. Even at first, it's easy to say "Obviously, it depends." It takes a lot more to discuss each primary concern and discuss how they might all differ depending on the person, the environment, the situation and all of these other factors. Very digestible!
@sams568
@sams568 Жыл бұрын
The best tool anyone can have is between your ears. Without the right mindset you can have all the bells and whistles for bushcraft and still fail. Knowledge is the easiest tool to carry, and you always have it with you. Making your kit or putting one together is always better than buying a premade one. Great insight Jess.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much my friend. 100% agree
@hailtothe_rooster1572
@hailtothe_rooster1572 4 жыл бұрын
West Texas high desert isn’t too forgiving when it comes to the winds, and terrain. Vegetation either since just about everything has thorns. I find a mix of new and old work best. Weight plays a huge factor when you’re constantly changing elevation just to navigate.
@Onipotent-one
@Onipotent-one 4 жыл бұрын
I love all my traditional kit, mainly military surplus, it’s cheap, durable and does the job. It may be heavy, but things like my Lavvus and my plash palatkas are 40 odd years old, and will outlast me (I’m 55). They have a certain romance to them, that modern hi-tech stuff doesn’t, plus, they are so versatile.😁
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. I still dig some of the newer gear, but it doesn’t have the same pull that the old stuff has. Cheers
@wastelandwarrior9738
@wastelandwarrior9738 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. Wish there was more people like you and your mindset in my area. Hope your still camping and living wild
@wolfeguy6451
@wolfeguy6451 2 ай бұрын
Good topic. I grew up on a homestead. Started backpacking, hicking, hunting, bushcrafting since the age of 8 with uncles, aunts. It depends on who is with you and health. I to put in for quit a few of the(alone, alaska experiment, etc... never got excited but found a lot of people how have also tryed geting in on some of these. Now I'm older i teach the kids how to start fires, shelter building, etc... im a jack of all master of none type. Good luck with your channel I'll be watching..
@johnburgin7478
@johnburgin7478 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic . It’s a balancing act . Durability vs weight vs cost . The latter two kind go together. Great pics shelters and huts . Merry Christmas
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, definitely what it comes down to. Merry Christmas
@devildogsbushcraft7898
@devildogsbushcraft7898 2 жыл бұрын
The Alone show kind of blew my mind. I mean even seasoned professional survivalists couldn't make it. Like even in the end, the last man standing would have died if they didn't come for him. So, my hopes of long-term survival were dashed. I thought the Alone show would have the answer. Well, they did. Go into the woods, bring a lunch, have some fun, and then go home.
@artedwards8536
@artedwards8536 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 54 this year and since childhood I've been fascinated with survival skills and gear. I've gone through stages where I studied stuff from cold war era and pre Y2K. Primitive skills and bushcraft came later. Buckskinners were another group I studied. Dave Canterbury and Ray Mears were more modern influences. I remember when Dave just had a few dozen vids on KZbin. I really enjoy your focus on old surplus equipment.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Art. Appreciate it. Survival as a topic is a pretty unique mix between skill and gear. Always something to work on and the gear from different eras/countries sure helps keep it interesting. Have a good one
@artedwards8536
@artedwards8536 4 жыл бұрын
It's good stuff you post. I've joked on FB about going retro survivalist. Using only gear and information that existed pre Y2K.
@briansamonas3805
@briansamonas3805 4 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Brian! You too, Merry Christmas
@martinjott1040
@martinjott1040 4 жыл бұрын
Your channel and the way you present your information is awesome.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much, Martin!
@A_Meek_lake_Dweller
@A_Meek_lake_Dweller 4 жыл бұрын
Good topic Professor If canoeing and the portage is not to long (Old School). My side of the mountain came out as a movie in the late 60s early 70s that my mother brought me to see. That was the spark for me.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Scott. Old school definitely wins durability in my book. If resupply isn't an option, seems like a smart choice. That book really was something special. It resonated on another level.
@jackdavis5622
@jackdavis5622 4 жыл бұрын
Good discussion! Thanks for laying this out.
@herbsmith6871
@herbsmith6871 4 жыл бұрын
They both have there place, I think old school is cool 🤠 Happy Holidays!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% Happy holidays, Herb!
@cliffordbaldwin9157
@cliffordbaldwin9157 4 жыл бұрын
You have a good mind sit ! And a really good video ! ! ! !
@timothygourley5690
@timothygourley5690 4 жыл бұрын
Its basha, it's A like in apple. Love the video merry Christmas
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too. Cheers
@manuelacevedo5150
@manuelacevedo5150 4 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas, jess.this is the one is the one. 👍 I will take this,all of your good elves and start practice
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thanks brother, Merry Christmas. Have a good one
@pobo6113
@pobo6113 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you bring other ideas to light about gear, and ways to do things. I love the idea of putting tarps together to make a bigger shelter. My biggest problem with the tarp shelter is there is not enough room or privacy for me to rely on. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Shelter building is kind of fun with the old tarps. Maybe a 15x15 tarp would be good. That would give you quite a bit of room and could be setup as an enclosed shelter.
@davidthompson1622
@davidthompson1622 4 жыл бұрын
I’m more for old school gear, I don’t regard myself as a knowledgeable “bushcrafter” , but I have done quite a bit of living in shelters I’ve built myself (full time living) , the shelters I’ve lived in , here in England are known as a “Bender tent” (similar to your longhouse, bent over hazel poles) , I have army canvas tarps to cover them.....Benders were widely used by Gypsy people before they used elaborate horse drawn caravans. December/January 2010/2011 was the coldest December/January for over 100 years, but I was okay in my Bender , wool blankets between the frame and canvas, wood board floor and carpets, and a good wood stove.....if I’m hiking into the woods to camp these days,, at 67 I’m not carrying it all on my back, I’m making easy work of it with my wheelbarrow, or my cycle trailer.....the wheelbarrow is a great ,cheap bit of equipment, especially now with puncture proof tyres ! Back in the autumn I was touring northern Scotland in my small van (I live full time in my bigger truck) ... and one of the highlights for me was climbing Bla Beinn (the blue mountain) on the Isle of Skye....going up was okay, but coming down really took a toll on my knees and hips, I could barely walk the next day,, but I was so happy I’d experienced it, and I’m going back this spring (hopefully) , I enjoy your videos Jess , and I like your manner , and lack of bravado, macho BS. Cheers, from Devon, England 🙏
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing, David! Interesting to hear about the bender shelter. Lining the walls with blankets is an excellent idea. We did that a bit at the end of the longhouse. It was the side that caught the most wind and it made a significant difference for sure. I can also relate to feeling it after hiking downhill under load. Have you ever heard of “fox walking”? You place the foot and kind of roll it down from outside edge, rather than strike the ground. It takes some practice, but very much helps to reduce the shock on the body felt in the knees and hips. Happy New Year!
@davidthompson1622
@davidthompson1622 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom , ah no I hadn’t heard of fox walking Jesse, but I will look into that,, also I’m a recent convert to trekking poles (in certain situations), and I think they would have helped me, coming down the Blue mountain,, I’d never considered trekking poles before, but after watching stuff on trekking poles techniques I realised they were more than a fashionable trend......of course some of it can be done with a wooden stick or a pair also, happy new year to you and yours 💜🤙
@bowdrillaz
@bowdrillaz 4 жыл бұрын
Great video with great conclusions 👍🏼
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, brother! Appreciate it.
@norseman1137
@norseman1137 4 жыл бұрын
I always feel its a tool box... Much like you'd deploy different firearms for different reasons... If you are on long hike with resup stops then ultra light could take priority... But my heart tends to lean towards canvas wool n old school... I also think members of the public can react differently to normal kit over camo kit... I think your appearance and demeanour can disarm potential difficult scenarios... I think older natural materials tend to usher in an interest in old skills too. I think also things are affected by the land you have permission on... I for example have to stealth camp under the wire and therefore it would be ill advised to build shelters as opposed to temp ones... So the 5cs becomes more difficult... I guess in the end we all do our best with what we have.... I like your channel and wish you a merry Xmas 🎄
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Very good points and observations. I often find myself adjusting my gear to the area, as you mention, perception can be an issue. Regardless of circumstance, doing our best is the best we can do. Thank you much, and merry Christmas
@moichuitroll
@moichuitroll 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! Something was very weird for me when I discovered bushcraft World: simplicity and nature were censed but for a knife and a blanket you have to spend 400€, you have to buy a New super heavy pack, buy a titan pot for 70€..... Not Logic. With your Channel and some others I found something aligned with my philosophy and who confirmed to me that my questions were not biased: We don't need to spend a lot of money and stuff is not the main element in bushcraft : it's the last. The most important thing is attitude, and secondly skills!
@drrobert2120
@drrobert2120 4 жыл бұрын
Always time well spent..Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!👍👍👍👍
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you much! Happy holidays!
@MilitaryHistoryGearReview
@MilitaryHistoryGearReview 4 жыл бұрын
I don't purport myself to be a survival expert by any stretch. I will say that in my experience, the number one long term survival element is...other people. Two people working together make tasks logarithmically easier. Two people can build a shelter more than twice as fast, can keep themselves warm with less than half the fuel, set and check more than twice the traps or lines, etc. Plus another person makes you smarter, plan better, avoid psychological pitfalls. Woniya at Buckskin Revolution talks a lot about this sort of thing.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
There are pros and cons to everything. If there is a balance of input from each party, a harmony, then it could be beneficial. But, if one suffers, say from the stress of situation, whether it be mental or physical, then chances are both will be stressed. The main concern will likely be food. Each person is going to require calories. Instead of 10 traps, it becomes 20. If one person is primarily responsible for running the line, thats twice the work on that person. Lots of variables.
@MilitaryHistoryGearReview
@MilitaryHistoryGearReview 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom its true. It comes down to who the person is. Though I've more often than not been surprised at others' ability to step up and contribute in a crisis
@joelareddola4946
@joelareddola4946 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see ya on alone and win!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe! Cheers my friend
@stevemcdermott6199
@stevemcdermott6199 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic vids man thanks for sharing
@stilkterrin
@stilkterrin 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful video.Thanks for sharing :)
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you much! cheers
@Smalltownpaadventures
@Smalltownpaadventures 2 жыл бұрын
my book that got me interested was Hatchet by Gary Paulsen. I was 11. here we are 16 years later wondering the penns woods.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great book! Cheers my friend
@Smalltownpaadventures
@Smalltownpaadventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom it sparked a life long hobby that I teach my kids. Watched a lot of dual survival when dave Canterbury was on it, 1,000s of KZbin videos, countless hours in the woods, unmeasurable amount of time in the BCUSA forum. We make due with what we got it’s the bushcraft way my friend. 🤙🏻
@barter41
@barter41 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched corporals corner and just came over after his last video,I've been watching you for a while and was subscribed ,i just had to subscribe again,don't know what happened,great videos,keep it up.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thank you for letting me know. I was wandering if that was happening.
@martinjott1040
@martinjott1040 4 жыл бұрын
Canvas materials like the Plash Palatka cause less noise and are more durable. Good for stealth camping.
@jeffdraijer7549
@jeffdraijer7549 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! 👊🏻
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Jeff! cheers
@davidpalmer9091
@davidpalmer9091 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video! lot if things to think about! No matter where you live, things get real if you are trying to survive long term! I would definitely want the 10 C's covered with good tools. and durable gear! Like you said survival knowledge is very important and good determined attitude! On the show Alone you can tell a lot of the battle is mental! Of course they are alone, but we could find ourselves in that situation as well. Again always enjoy your videos. Keep trying for Alone, if you are interested. I believe you would do very well! Stay safe! Happy New Year! I hope!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, David! Definitely agreed. 10Cs should be well covered with robust reliable gear. The mental game is huge. Stress is stress, whether mental, physical, spiritual, and a little bit over time adds up fast. Happy New Year! All the very best to you and the family!
@JJ-JOHNSON
@JJ-JOHNSON 4 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Brother, I hope you and the Misses is doing well, oh and the Pup. Happy New Year.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Brother, much appreciated. Merry Christmas and all the best to you and the family
@THENEWWRANGLER
@THENEWWRANGLER 4 жыл бұрын
digging the channel,
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thanks man, cheers
@noshame7472
@noshame7472 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Its Drew again. My location is Queensland Australia. It would be great to see you come down this way? For me I've recovered from open heart surgery Aortic valve replacement? This was about two years ago. I was lying in bed for the first month after the surgery and thought to myself there is more to life than this? So when I got back on my feet I did the same things and started to watch everything about camping, hiking etc. It transformed my life giving more meaning to things where now just to relax I set up tents in my backyard to gear test them etc. Life is pretty cool if you give it a chance. So my question is what would be one of the most craziest places you have ever camped at?
@tonysmith5924
@tonysmith5924 4 жыл бұрын
It’s what you do with what you have!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! cheers
@davef5916
@davef5916 Жыл бұрын
concise and important video dude! Thank you!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom Жыл бұрын
🤝
@borntoolate1282
@borntoolate1282 4 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Merry Christmas!
@danmal333
@danmal333 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!!!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, happy to help! 👍👍
@OKBushcraft
@OKBushcraft 4 жыл бұрын
I like my wool and canvas for the most part. I'm not hiking the Appalachian trail so I'm not into the ultra light stuff. Its all relative to the journey. My journeys are closer. I have a basha, a hootchie , lavvus, and plash palatkas, I almost always grab a plash palatka Great vid
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Same here, usually always have a palatka, and unless expecting to do some serious miles, weight isn't much of a consideration.
@thomasmusso1147
@thomasmusso1147 4 жыл бұрын
A good posting 👍 .. thanks .. with much food for thought 🤔. Old vs New .. it depends entirely on the playing field .. and that conjures up a considerable number of, and varying sets of circumstances. I personally enjoy using old-school tried and trusted gear .. but then, within the limits of my physical capabilites and relevant expertise .. and the intended and/or sometimes unforeseen application thereof. One should remember that, at one stage, that 'Old School' gear was the latest in available technology at the time. In a nutshell .. use what is going to be the most effective under the given and projected set of circumstances. Generally speaking, the Military is not 'Survival Mode' from an Outdoors Perspective. It has other objectives with, inter alia, an organised logistic system to support them. One example .. modern 'lightweight synthetic gear' does not have to be compatible with huddling around a camp fire every evening .. one doesn't normally do, or train for this, in a combat zone. Notwithstanding the Rule of 3's .. according to Mors Kochanski, "getting a good night's sleep" (and regularly) is a vital aspect of survival and appreciable energy should be directed towards this end. Secure, hydrated, fed, dry, warm, something soft underneath .. 👍. Without adequate sleep .. "Lutu" .. 'Surviving off the Land'. Sorry to have to throw a bit of a curved ball regarding this. Similar to a good, secluded surf spot. The wave can only accommodate a limited number of surfers. Too many out in the water leads to overcrowding .. less or no waves for many .. conflict and violence. Hence Commercial Farming and Industrial 'Food' 😏 Processing. Without it, the majority of us would starve and die. The 'Outdoors', in itself is actually quite 'resource poor' .. being able to only sustain a highly select infrastructure .. and that does not include the masses. Thus .. we are free go out and enjoy sightseeing, hiking, camping, bushcrafting, climbing, hunting , whatever .. however, always mindful of the impact that we have on the environment that we are utilizing. Till next time .. take care .. stay safe ..
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
All good points and observations, Thomas! I liked your analogy about nature being like a good surf spot. Resources are certainly limited out in the bush and balance is key for the whole system to maintain. I was listening to a video on HowtoHunt's channel about the fragility of a system. In his story he was talking about the effects of logging upsetting habitat that would typically preserve the balance between predators and prey. By cutting in access roads for machinery, it gives the wolves an unfair advantage to the deer and elk herds. The wolves have a time of abundance, over produce, and then the following year the herds haven't recovered their numbers and the whole system suffers. All the best
@thomasmusso1147
@thomasmusso1147 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom Thanks for that 👍. Unfortunately too often, when we meddle, things go belly up.
@norseman1137
@norseman1137 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting to take an average 3 season sleeping bag at zero degrees freezing or there abouts and leave a thermometer inside for 3 hours.... Then do comparisons with canvas tarp as bivi bag and wool blankets.... So to know how much old school stuff it takes to match modern
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
That is an interesting idea! Not sure the best way to measure something like that though, as the blankets or bags would need a person inside to generate warmth. The sleep kit is insulation, not heat. May be worth a try though.
@norseman1137
@norseman1137 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom you're right so would need to do something like place a hand warmer in each system and then remove it to check retained temp after an hour
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
@@norseman1137 Nice. That would work.
@revanchartier5856
@revanchartier5856 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with modern gear, by and large is in the quest to save weight, they have massively sacrificed durability. Even the modern military, since they want every troop to essentially carry everything there is to issue, they've sacrificed durability of much of the gear, not to save the troop's weight, but to issue them more stuff for the same weight, with the intention of just replacing gear more often. BUT, it is lighter. I mean, there's no way you'll be as warm with say two heavy wool blankets (5 lbs each) as you will with 10 lbs of sleeping bag. If you take an actual tarp versus a "basha" (poncho) that's supposed to double as a rain poncho, you can carry a 10 x 12 tarp for about the same pack weight. While not ideal for long-term, it will last long enough to build a long-term shelter. For clothing, you can combine stuff if you're smart. A wool base layer, synthetic midlayer and a heavy duck or canvas shell works great. Get say a set of level 7 PrimaLoft ECWCS pants and parka, sized to fit over your wool anorak and pair of pants, and then something like an Alpenflage M70, or SAS smock, and lowers sized to fit over the ECWCS gear, and you have the best of both worlds. So, as with most things, the two extremes are usually wrong on some level, and the middle path is the way.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent points. Better or worse, "they really don't make em like they used to". Have you seen the booties from the ECWS system? Grunt Proof did a video on them a little while ago. They look quite interesting. Haven't been able to find them on ebay. Really enjoy the M70 stuff.
@revanchartier5856
@revanchartier5856 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom No I haven't, but I have extremely wide feet to the point I generally have to get custom made footwear, surplus stuff doesn't generally fit me.
@devildogsbushcraft7898
@devildogsbushcraft7898 2 жыл бұрын
Just seen the part where you talk about the Alone show.
@rlbranch65
@rlbranch65 4 жыл бұрын
As someone really starting to use different types of gear, I'm really mindful of weight. With that being said, trying to find a balance is key. Weather really dictates a lot of decision making.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Balance is definitely key and options are good. Cheers
@rlbranch65
@rlbranch65 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom Thank you for showing such a variety of items that are being used in these common situations. Learning about new things is educational as well as entertaining.
@jimmyfields5831
@jimmyfields5831 Жыл бұрын
I still have a military tent two canvas bivywac halves that I’ve had since I was in boy scouts and a go too but I agree your skills and purpose of outing
@TheScoundrel70
@TheScoundrel70 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I have to say it's a mix. In the summer, when having a fire is just for cooking, or for the enjoyment of a little bush TV, I'll shift some of my gear to lighter synthetics for the weight/bulk savings since I'm more likely to be trying to cool off than warm up. If it's expected to be challenging terrain or weather, or when a fire is going to be used close by the shelter for warmth, then definitely old school, whether that be true vintage pieces, or modern pieces but made of "old school" materials. Match the best tool to the job, so to speak. I'll go so far as to add that old school is almost always cheaper than the high tech, ultra light weight gear, and these days I think cost is becoming a greater factor than it used to be for many of us.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
All good points, Sean. The balance of weight, durability and price.
@alanrice39
@alanrice39 4 жыл бұрын
Mind set, the more u know the less u need. Sometimes use mixture of both. I own lots of military old school surplus . I usually tend to stick with that. That’s what I started out with in the early eighties . When I stared out I didn’t know bout bushcraft or bout survival. Now I stick with the 5 C as my base. Then build from that depending on my mission. I love my old school gear and will always stick with that, including the old school clothing. I don’t care for that synthetic tactical clothing or look. Alan Rice.
@blueeyeswhitedragon9839
@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 4 жыл бұрын
I tend to lean towards army surplus for my bushcraft equipment (except for tents...I want more comfort than the military stuff). Basically because it can be obtained inexpensively. One consideration in military equipment vs commercial survival equipment, is that in the military resupply is always expected and the buddy system is part of the equation, whereas in civilian bushcraft/survival you can't depend on a truck pulling up with extra shelters, MRE's and hot soup. The point is military gear is designed for situations other than survival & bushcraft...sometimes it fits, and sometimes it could be dangerous to depend on without that resupply option.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Good points for sure. Pretty much all my gear is military surplus. The old stuff is definitely made more resilient. What civilian tents do you like?
@blueeyeswhitedragon9839
@blueeyeswhitedragon9839 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom :- The last tent that I bought was a Yurt style, about 12 feet in diameter, for car camping with my family. But I've gone the full gambit from canvas pup tents to canvas two room family tents, then from simple one man cocoon tents to the yurt in synthetic fabric. I'm now 70 years old and comfort means more to me...my roughing it under a tarp days are over, and portaging with a canoe and pack on my back are just fond memories.
@spider5001
@spider5001 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man🙂 I’ve been modern hammock camping. It goest up so fast and with my quilts I don’t need a fire. It’s also extremely light and compact. My overnight pack is 20L and the weight is around 20 pounds with everything except water. It’s cool if you go off trail. You can have it up in minutes anywhere there are trees. That being said though I am trying to go back to the roots. Santa left me a plash palatka 😀 Also I looked at the Korean era bdu’s and they look awesome and are very cheap
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Nice dude! Packing light is the way to go as long as the basics are covered. Enjoy the plash palatka man!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, i have never had one leak, except for the Czech plash palatka that I have, but it is a different fabric than the Soviet PP. The fabric on the Soviet version swells and prevents water from coming through. It will if you touch it on the inside of the shelter. How did you test it? If you need to treat it, I would get a cake of fixing wax, put the palatka out in the sun to warm up or run a hair drier on it and work the wax in. That should help seal it up. Honestly, I have never had a problem with it to the point where I felt it was necessary to wax mine and I have definitely been out in some heavy rains with it. I had it at the Pathfinder School and it poured half the week I was there.
@nightvan4427
@nightvan4427 4 жыл бұрын
Good story. Experience is the best book. I wrote one, It's Second Father
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Monadi. Congratulations on your book.
@denniswilson7825
@denniswilson7825 4 жыл бұрын
I use both. I'm not a gram counter so a lot of the synthetics aren't that important to me. A mil tarp and a hoped bivy or small tent like the F1 or Dutch mil work for me most of the time - throw in a folding stove and you're almost there. I'm waiting on a Ratnik bivy - looks like it'll be a winner.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. I am not one for counting grams either. How do you like the Dutch tent?
@denniswilson7825
@denniswilson7825 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom It's a great tent. It comes in around 15 lbs. and if it's going to rain a good mil tarp will come in handy. Plenty of room for 1 person a pack and maybe a dog. it's built to last!
@outdoor-suedost
@outdoor-suedost 4 жыл бұрын
The best equipement doesn't help you, if do not know who to use it. I think it is better to increase your knowledge in bushcraft and survival and to use basic equipement. Military surplus could be a good choice for beginners and if you decide to go on this way you can always improve your gear. Merry Christmas and all the Best for 2021 fom Austria!
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more! Thank you, merry Christmas and all the best
@kentmulter
@kentmulter 11 ай бұрын
I remember "My Side of the Mountain" well; it was influential to me too. Also "Two Little Savages" by Ernest Thompson Seton; did you ever read that one? Old-school equipment does appeal to me, but I'm not a strongman, so I'm concerned about weight. But I definitely prefer simple, rugged gear; I avoid high-tech gadgets.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 11 ай бұрын
Never read that one. Will have to keep an eye for it. It is definitely an interesting puzzle meeting needs, balancing weight and durability.
@eldogg4life
@eldogg4life 3 жыл бұрын
New Sub from Corporals Corner.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, welcome to the channel.
@Canadian_Craftsman
@Canadian_Craftsman 4 жыл бұрын
HAPPY HOLIDAZE BROTHA!!(=✌💚
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
thank you, bro! You too! Cheers
@HammerandPipe
@HammerandPipe 4 жыл бұрын
Think both have their place. Depends on what kind of user you are and where you are. But I think you are right. Gear is useless without skills. Im terrible at using map and compass. But seemingly do fine navigating without it in the back country. Im also unsure how my primitive hunting is and all that.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
I put out a video called Make Your Own Map last year that is pretty straight forward. If you go to my channel and search my videos it should come up.
@spider5001
@spider5001 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man! How do you go about cleaning your plash palatka? Mine smells like a crawl space 😂
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
lol 😂 You could cold soak it and air dry, or set it up outside for a couple days to air out.
@spider5001
@spider5001 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom thanks man👍🏻 it will soak through?
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
@@spider5001 It should if you immerse it. Personally, I just went camping with mine and never cleaned them. The smell goes away from use and just airing it outside
@davidbraun2989
@davidbraun2989 3 жыл бұрын
Corporal's Corner told me to check you out . I'm looking for a new and better way .
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. Welcome to the channel
@corleyoutdoors2887
@corleyoutdoors2887 3 жыл бұрын
Skills to pay the bills
@devildogsbushcraft7898
@devildogsbushcraft7898 2 жыл бұрын
Long term survival is the question. Have you ever watched the "Alone Show"? It'll open up your mind.
@moorshound3243
@moorshound3243 2 жыл бұрын
I do prefer old school gear, mainly because modern stuff seems to always focus on what you look like when wearing or carrying it and not what it performs like. Here in the UK there seems to be this strange stigma about camo, I am like yourself & wear camo all the time I don't care, but some people won't use a tarp because it's camo or wear trousers that are camo? Just seems strange to me, I mean your not out in the woods for a fashion show, people with really expensive light weight bright blue Rab jackets on. Does a deer wear blue nylon?
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 2 жыл бұрын
I never got modern “outdoors” wear. I have always enjoyed earth tones. Camo and mil gear in general is made for the outdoors, it is reliable, mostly hardwearing, and functional, not to mention generally easy on the bank. Cheers
@Squirrel200
@Squirrel200 2 жыл бұрын
#1 Hands on skills. #2 Gorilla proof tools. #3 make & use your Primitive tools , fire, shelter , ..... before your modern Equipment is gone / Anything can happen Murphy is also around the corner. 60+ old World Explorer. great video thanks p.s. remember KISS = Keep it simple stupid.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Chrissy! Great list and points. Have a good one.
@tedsemonis7905
@tedsemonis7905 4 жыл бұрын
modern gear or old school or mix is individual choice. My problem is SURVIVAL which means to me " i don't want to die " so if lost or hurt, I want to be found, S.E.R.E means run and hide from what ever. Surpus gear is proven and great to use. But in your setup people could walk by you. From Geraldine Largay who had gear and no knowledge to experenced people a few thing could save them.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Good points. In this context, it was more along the lines of an intentioned survival, INCH bag scenario according to the question referred to in the video.
@tedsemonis7905
@tedsemonis7905 4 жыл бұрын
@@EnduranceRoom look up Geraldine Largay tragic death that could be avoid if she had a 2 dollar roll of flagging tape. Hard cases who do this, have trained for it. But simple campers NO get lost can signal rely on there phones. No basics but no one shows them. Hide thing in a pack you can't reach or open easlyis good night.
@EnduranceRoom
@EnduranceRoom 4 жыл бұрын
@@tedsemonis7905 Understood, but this wasn't about what to do when getting lost, rather along the lines of not being found. Their question was regarding an INCH bag.
@devildogsbushcraft7898
@devildogsbushcraft7898 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone can survive the woods for a few days with no food.
@devildogsbushcraft7898
@devildogsbushcraft7898 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is calories. And not just calories. You need fat, and protein. One youtuber I know that does a really good job of living off the land is "Drop Forged Survival". He gets plenty of fat from eating raccoons, possum, and some fishing. Check his channel out. He uses have a heart trap's that almost always produce a racoon, or a possum. Without the have a heart traps, I don't know if he would do as well. But that's where primitive trapping skills rank very high. I'm sur my trapping skills are not there. Oh, yes, the other great animal to catch is porcupines. Very fatty little guys. You have to have fat! you will die from only eating lean meat.
@13DrunkenMonkeys
@13DrunkenMonkeys 3 жыл бұрын
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