Gear to Lighten your Load on a Budget! - Part 4

[@lazlooegema4796]

Had lunch with you a few days ago in the shelter where your wife got her trailname. You gave me a ton of tips and tricks and really improved my day! (Had a horrible day until that point) Did a shakedown at Neel Gap and lost 11 pounds of gear. Thanks again so much from Canman. (The Dutch guy)

[@LaconianConcepts]

Wow! That’s a lot!

[@markhamadventures]

Have to say Darwin, your speaking is always fantastic in these videos! You said "um" once in this one and I realized you never really stumble over what you're trying to say. Keep up the great work and good luck on the AT!

[@abbiewhittier4405]

Cody Markham I got 2 ums so far lmao!!

[@fuggoff5277]

@@abbiewhittier4405 2um's in 15 min Darwin is certainly not Obama

[@daano465]

Hey Darwin. Could you talk about having glasses on a thru-hike? Like, what to bring to keep em clean, how to not lose or break em, wether an extra pair is needed. thanks!

[@JokkeHimSelf]

Go on Amazon and search for Soft Glasses Case - 4-Pack of Sunglasses Cases - Pouches with Snap Closure - for Eyeglasses and Sunglasses (Mix) That's the kind I use whenever I'm travelling, glasses are the best choice in my opinion and just bring a 50ml spraybottle and a microfiber cloth and you are good to go :)

[@swirledworld340]

Definitely emergency pair if you are blind

[@ricker76er]

I wore a strap on my glasses in high school gym class. They kept them on my head during physical activities.

[@johnholcomb4178]

I highly recommend Trail Buddy trekking poles. They're super cheap, a cottage company, and have really great customer service. For a sleeping pad I recommend Paria Outdoors. I can't remember the specs off the top of my head but super thick with a really high r value. As a bonus their 30 and 15 degree down quilts are a great value as well

[@CharlesBlank]

I have the cascade mountain tech carbon fiber and cork poles cuz I found em for 30 bucks at amazon.

[@HEY-ITS-COREY]

I agree with the cottage company thoughts. I love supporting those in the industry that really put in the extra innovation to improve a piece of kit I already own. Thanks for always showing us new companies to do business with.

[@fousna]

I love Paria Outdoor Products. I successfully thru hiked the PCT last year using their sleeping pad, sleeping bag and trekking poles. Good quality and affordable prices and EXCELLENT customer service with life time warranty with no questions asked.

[@ballisticcoefficientdepend9811]

I'm quite new to the Leave No Trace hiking lifestyle. I'm used to walking long distances in the forest, 10-15 miles on private property, for photography (I was taught from a very young age to never leave a trace). I've now done a few weekend hikes; which is obviously very different from walking through the forest taking pictures, and the hikers I've run into have been awesome (compared to some other outdoor sports/activities I've been heavily involved in). They've really made me want to get more involved in long distance hiking far more! Your videos are really helping me learn about the different types of gear used, and the terminology that I'm going to need. Thanks for your videos, they really do help newbies like me, and a big thanks to experienced hikers, who see new guys on the trail, and ask if everything is okay, it's very much appreciated!

[@Jeffthermite]

Browsing for cheap hiking gear on ebay is difficult when you dont know item names in english. Today I learned "Ass coaster" is actually a "Sit pad"

[@iwinrar5207]

I want an ass coaster

[@nathanjohn367]

What is the use of sit pad?

[@datghettoazn127]

I use a gardening kneeling pad. It has a handle!

[@worldcitizeng6507]

@@datghettoazn127 i think the Dollar store sells it

[@datghettoazn127]

@@worldcitizeng6507 that's where I bought it. But idk why you felt the need to tell me.

[@kellyjohnson3617]

Another option is Sierra trading post. They at times get great brands for discount prices because they are related to TJMaxx but for sporting goods. I got my thermarest neo air sleep pad there for $75. I always look there first for gear to see what they have before I check out amazon. Just putting it out there for budget minded people. Also got my tent and other awesome gear for car camping and day hiking

[@CoderShare]

I'm taking the Lanshan 2 on the AT this year. I've had it for a year and I love it.

[@chefegzyle]

Thank you for this! I was on the fence about buying the 2. (I hike with my German Shepherd) this was a good comment to read.

[@theedavierg4581]

It is a very very nice tent. I bought one as well last year.

[@theodoreyoungman2111]

Can you use these tents without the innards. So like a tarp?

[@chefegzyle]

@@theodoreyoungman2111 Yes you can, I think it would make a spectacular tarp shelter.

[@SonnyH.]

How tall are you. I am 6’ 2

[@kenttheboomer721]

2:16 #DarwinNotForSale highly respectable position.

[@bass779]

@@BCRBCRBCRBCRBCRBCR He isn't sponsored by the companies that make the gear reviewed. I don't see an Amazon link as a conflict of interest.

[@greenhat7618]

BCRBCRBCRBCRBCRBCR man’s gotta make a living, he’s making fair reviews and it ain’t like you’re paying more

[@Rambling_Bob]

Darwin has 238k followers and will make commission on the ads that play before, during and after his videos. I like his position of integrity 👍

[@SeraphX2]

@@Rambling_Bob And yet TheOutdoorGearReview doesn't get sponsored and also buys his stuff and won't do Amazon links and does just fine without them. To each his own, but I highly doubt Darwin *has* to do this. Doesn't he like own a business or something? (Maybe I'm thinking of a different YT'er)

[@Ether-pb5gb]

​@@Rambling_Bob Take it easy. When somebody works at McDonalds, do we question their integrity? This dude is giving up his time by making/editing the video, doing research. Let him make a dollar

[@rolfdenver]

Good for you, Darwin, on your gear review policy. You have great integrity. Here are some low-cost items I'm trying out over the next several months. Pack: Massdrop X Granite Gear Crown X60 - $104 including shipping. Tent: River Country Products Trekker 1 - $49! Quilt: Paria Outdoor Products 15 degree - $150. Rain jacket: Original Frogg Toggs rain jacket (I tried the Extreme but it felt weird) - $30.

[@thereandback9764]

Hey Darwin, thanks for making this. I am an avid day hiker that has wanted to do longer hikes for decades but budget (and lack of knowledge) has prevented me from jumping into it. As a military veteran I know all about long distance with heavy packs (LOL) but I would love to do longer hikes with something a little more manageable and comfortable at my age. This list has been really, really helpful. Thank you sir!

[@yuriemitsuhashi1577]

I love that you have affordable gear to recommend for the occasional hiker! Good stuff to hear from a seasoned hiker who otherwise uses the best (but expensive) gear. Great reviews, thank you.

[@mhobson3]

Love these videos - as a Scout leader we are always looking for good (and inexpensive) gear recommendations for our youth. Thank you!

[@kurohikes5857]

I have that pack and it is small and pretty good but absolutely DO NOT overload it. If you keep the weight well within the tolerance of the pack you will be golden. This a good video - you just got some people ready to go.

[@tj6111]

Just ordered the Mier UL 1 off Amazon! I have been putting my budget UL set up together to get into backpacking this summer and been watching all of your budget ul vids so this was great timing. This checks off all of my boxes: ultralight, freestanding, bathtub, double-walled, and affordable. boom.

[@mariuskaupas]

I love those drybags with shoulder straps. I have one from Alpkit UK, really good. Waterproof 30liter has side pockets a rooltop, blader holder.

[@kadenlynch6646]

Love that you're supporting the small companies, by the people who do what you love. Keep up the great work love the vids !!

[@chromedome1975]

I can vouch for the frogg toggs Xtreme lite jacket.. I work outside for a living, and bought mine last spring. I have abused it for an entire year on the job, and on multiple backpacking trips.. it has zero rips in it and is still waterproof.. the thing I really like about it, aside from the price and weight, is the material itself is waterproof. There is no waterproof coating to wear off.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Nice! Great to know!

[@memathews]

Thanks for the review on this, it's the one thing Darwin hadn't used, and I wondered about waterproofness and delicate handling. It rains constantly in winter here in Oregon and a ripped rain jacket is useless. 👍

[@chromedome1975]

@@memathews the down side is you sweat in it, so you still get wet, but hey! It's better than cold rain..

[@memathews]

@@chromedome1975 Exactly! Anything better than 10-12 hours of cold rain leaking down your back.

[@oldguy871]

@@DarwinOnthetrail I purchased this at walmart as a lighter replacement of my heavier jacket. using it in the summer is not so great. there is no way to ventilate this jacket unless you un zip it and then of course the purpose of the jacket is defeated. This makes for a very hot and sweaty hike. I will say that water can't penetrate but after walking in the rain for about one hour sweat was worse then the rain. I now use it in the cooler seasons to avoid overheating.

[@birkins1]

I think I’ve mentioned this before but I found a great titanium mug called the Tomshoo 750. Cost me about £15 and has served me really well. I can also fit my canister, brs stove and lighted all inside. Cracking little thing 👍

[@themiddleog8930]

Thanks Darwin, I really appreciate your input on some cheaper gear. Your recommendation on the BSR stove convinced me to buy one and it is the absolute best stove ever.

[@MegaMastiffman]

The trekology pad is great I got it with the pump sack but yes the R value is low or not at all it’s definitely a warm weather pad and my first one had a slow leak so I called them they verified my purchase and sent me a new one in three days!! No questions asked great customer service and it’s been excellent ever since!

[@Hangs4Fun]

Loving my new 2020 AltaPlex (thanks for helping to bring it back, I'm 6'3" with size 15 feet and the Duplex was too small). Also, I use the TR NeoAir XTherm for winter and UberLite for 3 season. And the ZPacks Vertice raingear (jacket, pants, and gloves)is a tough pill to swallow, but it is phenom8nal rain gear for active use and does pretty good for wind too. For UL backpack I use the Nero without belt and when hammocking or winter, I use my Arc Haul

[@Slow_poke_hiker]

From the Amazon page on Trekology UL Pad "With an estimated R value between 2 to 2.5, this pad is great for 3-season camping (35.6F or 2C and above)!"

[@blakew5672]

I wonder if that’s using the new standard they’ve developed? For the price I doubt it.

[@Slow_poke_hiker]

@@blakew5672 you're probably right. I am certain that is why it was hidden in text with the qualifier "estimated"

[@99mines92]

@darwin the lanshan 1 ULpro is a great option and they lengthened the tent for the pro version

[@kee7678]

Darwin, I gotta tell ya, THAT was a great video. I really appreciate the lower $ options you mentioned in addition to your great info and attitude. Quick, to the point and super helpful. Thank you.

[@jpawl4362]

I like your new policy and the transparency it provides...no doubt you're on the side of the People!!! Didn't know Trekology made a pad but I've been digging their Aluft 2 pillow for some time now. Sea to Summit are good but too $$$. I love that you love cottage companies and just want to point out that sometimes they are a good source for folks on a budget. I just got some eVent mitts from John at Borah Gear for a real good price and you can't beat the quality either. I would check cottage companies before going anywhere else first. Well researched and presented Darwin...thanks.

[@MJGEGB]

I've had a Lanshan 1 for just shy of two years now. It's a surprisingly good tent though I got mine for around $86. I've since picked up an MLD shelter and I hate to say there are things I like better about the Lanshan. I was looking at the Tutor pack, but didn't quite like certain things about it. I ended up getting a Granite Gear Virga 26. Perfect size for the weekend trips that I take when I'm only carrying gear for me. It's somewhat similar to the Waymark pack with a webbing hip belt, no frame, load lifters (which I didn't think I'd care for), and a roll top. It wasn't much more than the Tutor. Took it out to Three Ridges this past weekend for it's first trip and really liked the way it carried. Never thought I'd go frameless with a webbing hipbelt.

[@pct2025]

Matthew Growney i had the Lanshan 1, but found it a bit cosy so sold it and bought the Lanshan 2 👍 I don’t mind carrying that extra weight for the extra space

[@MJGEGB]

@@pct2025 I'm 5'10" and I found it to fit like a glove. You have to pitch it properly for sure or you lose a lot of space, I'm sure the 2 man is the same way. The other thing I do is clip my mostly empty pack to my trekking pole strap up in the vestibule. There's only a few things that I want in my tent with me when sleeping at night. Mainly a bottle of water and headlamp. The big advantage is being able to pitch in tighter spots but I get that single person tents aren't for everyone. I've been using a bivy lately so the Lanshan is probably going to feel like a palace when I use it again.

[@robwood777]

Granite Gear is a great option for affordable packs. I'm working with a Granite Gear Crown60. While not UL at 36oz, its a comfortable, framed pack with plenty of room and it's light enough for me. Plus it was about 100$ on sale.

[@deanm2075]

Kudos to you sir. Integrity is harder and harder to find nowadays. You paying full price so WE can get unbiased reviews is appreciated.

[@Vanessa-oo3wh]

This video is great!! Not all of us can afford expensive gear. Thank you for making this video inclusive!

[@tamarmolerick3814]

For the money the Lanshan 1 is fantastic. Used one for 10 days in the Alps last summer and was well impressed.

[@Charsept]

That Frog Toggs Extreme Lite was a nice pickup for me. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@brndumsvandrehistorier3486]

Lanshan comes also in a 1 pro version. It's basically a copy of the Altaplex only in 20D sil-nylon. It's a single wall 1 pole tent, it weighs 25 oz (690 g) and the interior length is about 8 inches (20 cm) longer than the "normal" version. As it cost $ 138, it's still a cheap option,

[@macmann3902]

Nice alternatives... I use a tarp mainly but when I went to Nepal I used the Black Diamond Beta Light. 15 ozs (not including stuff sack and stakes) and a true 4 season tarp/tent and cheap at $150ish. I always use 2 hiking poles so no problem and tons of room inside, I'm 6'4. Just my 2 cents...

[@vinceimp9581]

Maybe consider giveaways with any gear you are gifted? Even if you just do it on the down low or with some hikers organization it could really help some people out. Just a thought if it works. Keep up the great work!

[@MikeontheMandolin]

Vince Imp I agree.

[@Vagabondpilot]

100% agree

[@Ryder-p3m]

Agreed

[@paulbancroft2812]

This is a great idea

[@SnoringVids]

Right why send it back? Donate it to scouts or hell gift it to new trail friends. Sell on ebay donate the profit?

[@barlotardy]

"...If you don't have a big thick neck like me" **Laughs in powerlifter. Immediately passes out due to hamster-like lung capacity**

[@isaaclim3348]

*laughs in wrestler*

[@Bookit9254]

Bradford Taylor I made the mistake of reading your comment while taking a sip of coffee... 😂

[@freddmi5212]

I think he meant beard.

[@jajajdjdjdj6434]

@@freddmi5212 no😂

[@paulbancroft2812]

What does “laughs IN ____ mean? I understand the phrase “laughs in house” and “laughs at powerlifting” even laughs at power lifter in the house” but how do you laugh IN a powerlifter?

[@pduckwor]

Checking out the sleeping pad from Trekology and I note it does give an estimated R value in the description on Amazon: With an estimated R value between 2 to 2.5, this pad is great for 3-season camping (35.6F or 2C and above)!

[@BenRobinson1974]

I've been using one for a while now, its really a one season pad by itself, you need to put something underneath it to make it a 3 season pad

[@rtfrenchjr]

Well done Darwin! Really appreciate your new approach to gear reviews.

[@brodobroggins]

We need more KZbinrs like you. Great content

[@mab0852]

I buy and test a lot of budget gear as starter kits for my Scouts. That Frogg Togg Xtreme jacket is excellent. I have a custom made jacket in micro10 that's awesome and even a bit lighter and cheaper than your Zpacks Vertice, but I got my wife the FT Extreme and it's a great piece of gear for the money. I recommend it to my Scouts all the time. Another great budget option is the Olicamp anodized Space Saver mug. The Trekology pad and pillow are an excellent value and if you get their pump sack it doubles as a dry bag for the pad pillow and your quilt. I love to use the Exped mat and Snozzle bag that way in my own kit. There is definitely something to be said for quality pieces of budget gear when you are starting out. Like you, I'm almost 100% custom cottage stuff, but I also help out a younger crowd that can't afford to make that leap yet and I have and idea page set up on Amazon of stuff I recommend for them.

[@blakew5672]

Glad to see this series come back. Having said that, for anyone looking to get into hammock camping.....check out Wise Owl Outfitters on Amazon. I bought one of their ultralight hammocks, and while I haven’t used it on trail I’m loving it thus far. Just under a pound for the hammock (which approaches a 2p size) and all hanging gear. Think I paid $30 for it, and it’s made in the US as well. Comes with carabiners, daisy chain hanging straps, and an integrated stuff sack that’s large enough to easily repack. Could also easily and cheaply save some more weight by going to whoopie slings and ditching the straps and biners.

[@MrDanAng1]

I have the Lanshan Pro tents (ordered both 1P and 2P). They are very similar to the regular Lanshan tents, but a few important differences. The Pro-tents have the same measurements as the regular, but they are fully enclosed single wall tents and they are made of a thicker and more durable double silnylon instead of sil/PU-covered nylon. This make the Pro's have some pros and cons compared to the regular Lanshan. Pros: * Significantly more space, I'd say you could most likely be close to 2 meters and still fit in the tents (about 6'7 or so), for my 178 cm (5'10), there is plenty of space, altough the regular is a pretty tight fit. * Stronger, more resiliant tents. * Lighter, about 25-30% less weight. Cons: * A bit more prone to condensation, although the ventilation is very good. * They need to be seam-sealed to be completely water proof, seamtape only work on PU coatings. (Just be aware, the regular Lanshan tents have some tent line attatchments that is sewn on after the seam taping, so the regular tents need som seam sealing at a few spots or they may leak there.) * They are $10-20 more expensive (or less cheap), still very affordable in the $130-140 range.

[@richbeck1356]

+1 on the Frog Toggs Xtreme Lite Rain Jacket -- All I use.

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

Rich Beck a great pick

[@marklyons3125]

I’ve used the Lanshan tent, solid option. The netting bugs me (pun intended) , but a very good sturdy tent for the price.

[@OldFellaDave]

USed the Trekology UL80 last night for an overnighter. Solid mat especially for us 'heavier' guys. I'd say the R rating is close to 0 to be honest, its an air mattress (about 35 breaths!) with no internal baffling or insulation and very sturdy but lightweight material. May pair it up with one of those folding foam mats to go under it in cooler months for an extra layer. Wasn't too noisy squirming around at all. Matching Trekology inflatable pillow pairs well with it.

[@christopherhaak9824]

The lanshan 1 pro is about $159 and is the same interior size as the altplex - weighs 24oz. It is a really nice tent and value for the $.

[@WanderABit]

As for trowel -- check snow stakes. Much cheaper, useful not only for digging holes, and they are safe for hands. What is more important they are more packageable.

[@LisetteLowe]

They're a lot smaller, do you find them practical enough to dig with?

[@JohnMury]

@@LisetteLowe Snow stakes are also slightly heavier (about 1 ounce /25g). I have found my REI snow stake to work well, except in areas with lots of fibrous roots. The sharper, wider edge of a trowel cuts through the roots much more easily. That's why I bought a Vargo Titanium Dig Dig tool, which is like a tent stake with ridged edges -- cuts through fibrous roots like butter. However, I had to make a sheath for it so the edges don't damage my pack. 1.25 ounces without sheath, 1.5 oz with (I used the bottom of a disposable water water, cut it to shape, then heated it to shrink it into a sheath -- very durable and secure). The Dig Dig also works well as a stake in loose or sandy soil. Oh, I also took a dremel to some of the edges on the handle to smooth them out to be easier on the hand. So it digs as well as a trowel, doubles as a stake, but requires some work and is expensive -- about 25 USD.

[@WanderABit]

@@LisetteLowe Yes, diameter is much smaller. After few (!) holes no poblems, but (a) I didn't even check the regular trowel because of the price (2) I didn't dig through tree roots or something like this, only solid ground. I would like to stress out that checking snow stakes and then trowels is easier than trowels and then snow stakes thanks to affordable price (4 stakes from NatureHike are below $10).

[@stevenvarner9806]

I have the 3F UL 35L-45L backpack, and the straps are not quite as close together as your pack. The top rolls down and then clips with side straps. However, there's still a Y strap above that to let you put gear on top of the pack. It's a bit heavier at around 30 ounces (large size), but has a lot of good features for backpacking. It comes in Dyneema gridstop or XPAC. ~$118.

[@jhosk]

Thanks! Gonna have pick up that rain jacket and tent. Great gear is a necessity when spending as much time as you do on trail. I on the other hand can't spend the time I want out there. Ultralight is almost my only option these days, 4 bulged disc, rotator cuff, jacked up feet and knees.....so I greatly appreciate these videos. Fyi, I dream of the day I can be on trail as much as you, thank ya

[@IvanIvanov-ep8zo]

I find that metal shoe horn works just as well as the trowels shown in the video and it's just a fraction of the price ;)

[@Michael-xo8lw]

love your position on testing gear / sending it back or paying for it. your stock was already pretty dang high with me, now it's way up there. big integrity there, pal. excellent. also love the support of cottage industries. however, still an important series. thanks for doing it.

[@Bill-YellowDogWelding]

Thanks Darwin!! Always a pleasure. ATB, Bill

[@WildWestOffGridHomes]

A great budget friendly trowel is an REI Snow Stake. It's only $3 and I've found it's significantly more robust and less likely to bend when digging in hard or rocky soil.

[@obchristo]

Yep. Been using a snowstake for 20+ years.

[@jimstoltzfus]

One related topic I’d love to hear more about is durability. What gear have you come across in all your hikes and meeting other hikers that someone have been using for a long time without fail?

[@scottbecker3485]

I‘ve been following you for eons, and this video rates way up on the scale of Darwin‘s Most Valuable! And I‘m writing that as a guy who also mainly goes for cottage business gear (Duplex, Vertice jacket, Zpacks backpack, EE quilt, etc.). What I love about this video is the way it opens up the field for aspiring hikers who might otherwise hesitate to get started on UL backpacking. Great service to the community, dude! :-) Also quite interesting for me as a source of recommendations for people who cross my path and maybe want to join me on my adventures but aren‘t yet equipped. And that Trekology sleeping pad looks like a winner for people camping out in less-than-frigid conditions, such as on other peoples‘ floors or for fair-weather camping. They also make a great pillow that is the comfiest I have tried, and I‘ve tried many. Thanks for gifting the community with this input at exactly the right time of year so people can get started and enjoy the Great Outdoors this spring and summer! :-)

[@laurisoza]

Planning my first section hike for next year.... will definitely consider these items when it comes to purchasing my gear. And thank you for your transparency!!!

[@guitarhiker4449]

I just bought the frogg toggs extreme lite hi-vis blue size small should be in the mail this week! Cant wait to try it out. Packs into its own pocket, very lightweight & breathable, taped seams so for the warmer summer months, its kinda what you need without melting out there in a warm rain or wind lol..I actually owned the very first runs of the frogg toggs rain jackets back when i fished the bass tournaments and although it worked it did shred and start coming apart in no time and it was just a mess to use after a while. But the material is different with this one so hoping its much better. Thanks for showing us this gear Darwin!

[@CLH126]

Charming chap! I like the "cottage" gear approach. :)

[@jetmanwalking]

Great video, thanks for the good info. I use my Lanshan 2 for desert hiking here in the Great American West. It's been a great tool, and has held up very well in some seriously inclement weather. It DOES weigh a tad more, but I love having the peace of mind knowing that when I get to camp, it will perform well, and I don't have to worry about getting some good rest.

[@brockdelorenzo7505]

jetjock blake i have the 2p Pro- love it

[@johoover209]

Dude, finally back to your roots of the video world. Really enjoyed it.

[@zerobucks9]

Been watching for like 2 years and just realized I have not been subscribed. lol. I am prepping for my 2021 AT thru hike after I retire next year. This has been super useful! Just grabbed the Frogg Toggs. Thanks Darwin and keep up the good work!

[@rhystattersall2132]

Cheers for the comparisons between the more expensive gear and the cheaper stuff! That was well explained. Thanks!

[@gt5228z]

Klymit static v is pretty good. For around $60 you can get ≈3 r value pad at ≈20oz. It's super comfortable and even comes with repair kit.

[@gt5228z]

@kevlar 1011 It does, they have "wings" on the outermost side edges that help keep you centered. I'm not sure why, but It seems like klymit pads are never brought up by hiking KZbinrs. The one we have was chosen by my wife over many thermorest, seatosummit, Nemo, and exped pads because of comfort.

[@chrishershey450]

I've been using this pad for about 2 years and it's absolutely great. Packs very small and is made pretty durable

[@jasonpetty3786]

Six Moon Design is a perfect low cost option for light weight tent. they are also a cottage company and have a great price. I actually use the SMD Lunar Solo. SMD have a sale every year just before Christmas as well. you can get a great deal. JMHO.

[@jasonpetty3786]

@@ChopperChad I got a lunar solo a few years ago during the christmas sale. I think i paid $180 for it. I love it. I wish they would make one out of DCF. I think it is a better design than Zpacks.

[@badderthanyou]

Tarptent Protrail is a great budget option too. Made in USA. No child labor.

[@oldfunsfrontporch5390]

South LA Hiker love my lunar solo!!

[@nonameman9291]

Darwin you are a godsend and I love your channel.

[@vickhines6302]

The Frog Togs Ultralight is the best rain/wind gear ever. It is completely waterproof, breathable so well that wet clothing will dry under it, and it is inherently waterproof repellent-hydrophobic. It never wets out!

[@yumecha05]

For those intersted they made a lashan pro version for the same price but 200gr ligther, but doesn't come with a compression bag. Thank you for your video, it was really informative and help me out as well :)

[@JeremiahStringer]

Love the idea of supporting the cottage company’s. Great stuff, brother! I’ve been using the trekology pillow for over a year now and it has done great 👍

[@BigHat83]

Have a lanshan tent and a 3ful pack. Love both. Cheaper to buy on AliExpress if you can wait 3 weeks for it to show up

[@Erik_The_Viking]

I've used Frogg Toggs before and they're lightweight and keep you dry. They're also a bit delicate and easy to tear, which is the only problem with it. Otherwise highly recommended. Nice to see they have a new option available - I'll check it out.

[@maxwanders]

I know this is an older video, but I wanted to add my two cents anyway in regards to a trowel. I had one to many weekend trips where it rained and the sticks around at the time of duty were water drenched that broke very easily. So a minor invest in a trowel will go along way if you are trying to leave no trace.

[@mtbmonkey]

Thanks Darwin! I dig your videos and honesty.

[@Mapleaple]

I like using Frame Sleeping Pads. My weight for sleeping pad is 6oz. Cons is that it's not insulated but the loft from my sleeping bag is not compressed below. My sleeping bag is a Hyke and Byke 800fill 15 degree sleeping bag.

[@KNURKonesur]

I really love your videos mate, always packed with information and product names that I wouldn't otherwise known. I do hiking and multiple day backpacking in Scotland without any access to resupply, so the gear you usually showcase is not that useful here, cause most of the year it's very wet and windy, but I still found some gems in what you recommend, especially in terms of sleeping pads and sleeping bags! Keep up the good work!

[@JokkeHimSelf]

The R value for the Trekology UL sleeping pad is between 2 and 2,5 :) With an estimated R value between 2 to 2.5, this pad is great for 3-season camping (35.6F or 2C and above) .... The last sentence is info from google.

[@rangerdoc1029]

Great series. I'm trying to go UL to lighten the load on a bum knee.

[@shawndennstedt5898]

Love the integrity brother...well done.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

🤙🤙🤙

[@lyellgalbraith2895]

I think it's great that you're going to send the items back. It's impossible to know if they've sent you a "better" version than the production line when they send you a free product even if it is no strings attached.

[@garnettsean]

New subscriber. Absolutely love your take on gear and backpacking tips. Keep up the great work!

[@grmackay]

My tip for saving money would be buy from shops with generous return policies. That way you don’t get stuck with gear that won’t fit your needs. Just be respectful and don’t abuse the shops return policy. Also I’ve saved a lot by getting gear on sale, close out sales are great.

[@briankoch9786]

Granite Gear out of Minnesota have super solid UL gear too. 👍🏻

[@DravinD81]

Another excellent video. I would like to point out some things. 3F UL Gear does now offer a "Pro" version of both the Lanshan 1 & 2, it's single layer instead of double, lighter, and a bit bigger (length is 230cm vs 210-215cm). There is also the Trajectory 35L pack, roll top, removable belt, offered in Xpac and DXG UHMWPE, has load lifter straps, hip pockets and comes in at 845g 110$usd-130$usd. I have gone with a 3/4 (junior) Klymit pad, ridiculously small and lightweight for summer and the beginning/end of the shoulder seasons. Still rocking the BRS stove, and I have abused (read as drop) it a lot and it still works fine (I did have to bend the supports back once, from a 20 foot fall). Still hoping you explore the Condor Trail around central California. I can't really find any video footage of it, it would be nice to get it some exposure and interest.

[@dougnevitt2257]

I have been using the Lanshan 1 for a couple of years, and for a budget tent it works great. My only complaint would be that the inner mesh is not taught and can hang down a bit. But other than that it’s a great little tent

[@adamsmith9756]

Hey Man! Totally respect your position on returning or paying for gear! KUDOS!

[@ethanlanglot9006]

Your eyebrows tell a story lol. How do you get them to make such a perfect wave

[@Stampistuta]

Very honourable to avoid sponsorship and paying for your gear. Keep up the great work Darwin.

[@ty88]

happy hikes, brother

[@ChrisC30]

I'm in a different sort of position. My pack is a Kifaru Zulu, but I like using ultralight weight-saving gear when I can, to lighten the load. I won't switch to a UL pack, but I'll save any ounce I can otherwise. I need my pack to hold up. A lot of UL packs do not wear well through the months or years.

[@lyfandeth]

"It takes a long time to wet this thing out." Which I why I wear GoreTex. If it *ever* leaks, Gore will REPLACE it. Expensive, but cheap after the first five or ten year replacement. And it breathes.

[@christopherch7307]

I appreciate your time in sharing your passion.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

🤙🤙🤙

[@Major-Steve]

Most of us spend a lot of money every month on stuff we don’t need. We should try to trim our budgets and buy good quality home grown gear. Sure it costs two months worth of Starbucks more, but if you really need the hundies you can sell the good stuff on Reddit or somewhere for decent amount. Also, if you buy cheap and then find out you love ul backpacking, you’re just going to spend more anyway. As Darwin says “buy once, cry once”.

[@MarieHalle]

To save money, I do comparisons online shopping. There are many 'seconds' and last year colors in clothing that regularly come on sale, even 50 percent off. Even small men sizes will fit women.

[@paddle_hike]

i do use the Lanshan 1 and the 2 ... They are super great for the price. Nothing bad to say about it.

[@cgriggsiv]

A lot of nice budget alternatives

[@kilgore3363]

Check out the Lanshan PRO 1 (new model). Longer profile and single walled! I will be using it in the Smokey Mountains in a few weeks, and on a section of the AT in Virginia in April.

[@AM-oq6nj]

Actually have that same pack ordered as a starter pack for my kids. Got it on AliExpress though for about $55.

[@smithe68]

20 minutes ago I was talking about that 3F pack to a buddy and watching a review on it! Thanks for this latest video!

[@benrusnak2077]

Theres one thing youll never take away from darwin and thats his love for ass pads.

[@pg3453]

Been using the Lanshan 2 for over 2 years and it has been great. I like it for a one person tent, But I have a lot of gear and I am hunting on most trips.