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@MillerCHIANG-io7rd3 ай бұрын
這顆SOC 真的有強欸
@killahattack5293 ай бұрын
the gpu tiling visualization was very nice.
@SasaPaunkovic-camplus22 ай бұрын
As always best review on KZbin and internet
@amyarmy47963 ай бұрын
今年根本神仙打架
@Lynsyn3 ай бұрын
去年就开始神仙打架了。今年的性能都是过剩😆
@k8118k3 ай бұрын
那台极电就是天庭了。
@johntong41132 ай бұрын
9300 Plus vs 8gen3 @@Lynsyn
@fukaraca3 ай бұрын
Only thing left is the battery drain. We know how powerful the new chipset is but don't know how retailers use it in terms of power management.
@jg14gerhard_bar3 ай бұрын
Need these OEM to have adjustable power profiles. like how samsung has the "light performance profile", but make so that the user can scale between a 10 to 40% limit on performance to fully realize the efficiency. I'd 100% use a OP13 at 8 gen 2 levels of performance
@fukaraca3 ай бұрын
@@jg14gerhard_bar they should indeed. I rarely need laptop degree cpu on my phone. I d like to optimize things accordingly.
@Bruuhhhhhh3 ай бұрын
Considering the efficency under load, it should be an improvement for sure.. Unless they decide to make a sloppy OS that doesn't make use of the processor correctly.
@Nemesis_6783 ай бұрын
@@jg14gerhard_barit will perform at 8 gen 2 level of performance but at lower power consumption lol. You don't need settings for that although there is a low performance mode on all devices. It's using 6 watt to get to 8 gen3's max power, 8gen2 would be even lower.
@roboticvenom1935Ай бұрын
@@Nemesis_678 yes you do? samsung's light mode is not the same as other companies terrible "battery saver on" modes if that's what you're implying.
@yapziqing18583 ай бұрын
我是相信你的,希望不是火龙
@junseoshin3 ай бұрын
Look at the efficient graph. The power draw at peak is indeed monster, but it's only for benchmarks.
@JimmyLiu-v8c3 ай бұрын
@@junseoshin Most Chinese media outlets only test products after receiving payments from manufacturers. Recently, VIVO paid a significant amount for its new phone, causing a buying frenzy. However, once people got their hands on it, issues kept arising, and the company has refused to respond officially.
@JimmyLiu-v8c3 ай бұрын
@@junseoshin Most Chinese media outlets only test products after receiving payments from manufacturers. Recently, VIVO paid a significant amount for its new phone, causing a buying frenzy. However, once people got their hands on it, issues kept arising, and the company has refused to respond officially.
@n872158eric3 ай бұрын
等白老鼠用了才知道吧,當初測了一堆都沒問題,實機就是災難😂
@godfrey33993 ай бұрын
此龍必火
@65_soon3 ай бұрын
今年换手机难了🫠神仙打架
@outhecu53263 ай бұрын
沒錢聯發科,有錢選高通
@ywh121233 ай бұрын
就两家处理器选,难啥阿,
@DavidGamersChannel3 ай бұрын
@@outhecu5326 价格相差不大吧。要稳定的话还是高通。确实要省一点钱联发科也够用。
@65_soon3 ай бұрын
@@ywh12123 你看看高通的有分几种,再加上每家调教的方法。
@elicoptere75823 ай бұрын
The fact that the op13 which is a non gaming focused device can run a game at stable 120 fps with lower power consumption than a gaming focused device can run the same game at 60 fps is crazy, the gap between the 8 elite and the 8 gen 3 is insane...
Where are you on the english version of this chanel? I miss you there
@zero1238243 ай бұрын
想換8 elite的手機了
@quantumdot73933 ай бұрын
Apple doesn't have alien technology. Their big core measures 3 mm2 in size while qualcomm big core is only 2.1 mm2. The fact that such a small core is getting close is impressive.
@Deeptesh973 ай бұрын
Most people don't understand this. Apple is simply throwing more money at the problem. Providing comparable performance at much smaller die size is more impressive.
@SethRoganSeth3 ай бұрын
He said superior the don't take translation at face value
@tractormax3 ай бұрын
No wonder Snapdragon still cannot win. Considering what they have achieved using the small die size, Android has catch up at last. The real world power consumption is pretty close. However Apple still win on benchmark.
@quantumdot73933 ай бұрын
@@Deeptesh97 guys you misunderstood. The die size isn't smaller. It is actually bigger because the elite has a modem built in. But the CPU area size is the same as apple . What Qualcomm is doing is optimize for multi core performance. They are using smaller big cores to fit 6 small cores instead of 4 in the same space. That is why they win multicore performance and efficiency.
@-Blue-_3 ай бұрын
@@tractormax how Apple is better in a benchmark, this video proves otherwise
Since when do phones have frame generation, how many of them have it ?
@-Blue-_3 ай бұрын
8 elite is the first one with this
@賴管維3 ай бұрын
魯迅表示:不,我沒說過
@WuJiZhang-wc9mc3 ай бұрын
If Mediatek go with 4x X925 (instead of 1x X925 + 3 X4), then it would be more interesting fight of 8 Elite vs D-9400.
@Smzxe3 ай бұрын
Still both 8 elite or 9400 are equally matched in terms of CPU or GPU performance and efficiency barely any difference If they went with 4x x925 cores it will consume a lot of power that core is so much powerful doesn't need Still 3x X4 cores are much stronger along with 4x 2.4 GHz A720 cores those smaller cores which can outperform processors like Snapdragon 870 This is absolutely crazy level of performance 3x X4 cores might be stronger than 6x oryon cores at 3.5 GHz Well we will see soon in November when they do the tests one by one Both are extremely powerful chips
@WuJiZhang-wc9mc3 ай бұрын
@@Smzxe "If they went with 4x x925 cores it will consume" No it doesn't. 1. Mediatek could control it with "max speed" on that particular core 2. the x925 is more energy efficient. about 30% more efficient.
@Smzxe3 ай бұрын
@@WuJiZhang-wc9mc these chips never run on peek power And not how it works mediatek knows better than you when they were making the chip they would have used 4x X925 cores but they didn't there would have been a reason otherwise they would have used 4x X925 cores and 4x X4 cores And completely ignore the 4x A720 cores But they didn't do that there would have been a reason about that On peek power it's gonna consume 4x more power than 3x X4 cores And you think 3x X4 cores are weaker??? They are absolutely not They are still very strong 30% efficiency is at same task At peek power it will consume 4x more power matters on how much the performance required
@WuJiZhang-wc9mc3 ай бұрын
@@Smzxe It seems to me that you don't really understand chip making 😂 Mediatek choose X4 over X925 is because: 1. They believe the jump from 2 million+ antutu to 3 million+ already a big jump 2. It would be easier for them to produce and optimize as it's only changing the ultra core. So, they can have the product faster.
@wanhl24403 ай бұрын
the die size is not enough to fit 4 x925. It is possible to run x925 on lower clock to match x4 performance on lower power, but the area is too large. d9500 on N3X may have enough density to fit all 4 x925 like cpu core.
What about Geekbench 6.3? Apple and Mediatek can use SME instructions, while the 8 Elite can't. I wonder if Apple and Mediathek would have a lead in performance and efficiency then?
@Xhfnsbdjfbsjf3 ай бұрын
看來ROG手機今年終於可以買了~..
@n0.6u3 ай бұрын
你今年要不不買rog了?反正也不熱了
@MononoSen3 ай бұрын
ROG8就沒料了 9也是差不多設計
@傅歌3 ай бұрын
買紅魔吧?
@台灣Taiwan3 ай бұрын
我也再考慮該換ROG還是紅魔😂
@wangkar90433 ай бұрын
看完決定先來把發哥的股票給賣了😂
@devilefty38143 ай бұрын
8 ELITE IS AMAZING!
@Nemesis_6783 ай бұрын
Dang it I can't wait for english caption anymore. Aaahh i am watching it rn
@leavel-h9q3 ай бұрын
你可以尝试视频右下角设置里的自动翻译
@wcrystal33203 ай бұрын
蘋果再不好好搞散熱就真的沒得打了,這次16pm對比15pm是改善了些,但熱點還是很集中
@batuhanguvenc66333 ай бұрын
İ wish they use Half the area(or none) for aı crap, then they can fit 16 cu gpu with lower clocks so efficency curve will better
@luiscardona74023 ай бұрын
They can start now leaving the ios only pf port games, the new generation of android chips are out of this world with power consumption, heat and power delivery, a new era of gaming has begun.
@chris27gea583 ай бұрын
Does SPEC 2017 run natively on Android?
@aberedo3 ай бұрын
一利特,是這麼念嗎?
@soenghou3 ай бұрын
一加13屏幕看起来曲边还挺大的,不好贴膜啊
@BostanMaxim2 ай бұрын
Can you test exynos 2400e? It performs like a snapdragon 8 gen 2 even, even exynos 2400 is far ahead , just because primary core is downclocked 100 mhz? it doesn't make any sense
@techlover6663 ай бұрын
這次在YT發了又收回去,是不是解禁時間不一樣?
@祐-x6g3 ай бұрын
不是很懂爲何單核測spec2017多核測geekbench 能效
@captainwu3 ай бұрын
其實現在效能都大致夠用了,看了只想避免踩雷😂 像是888之類的....
@DENNIS961263 ай бұрын
我現在買都會看製造商是哪家 架構再好也頂不住製程不行😂
@martyfox-ru8dd3 ай бұрын
@@DENNIS96126 重點是今年不管是IOS/高通/聯發科全都是台積電代工...
@captainwu3 ай бұрын
@@DENNIS96126 你是說三星嗎😂
@Wanted543213 ай бұрын
性能是絕對過剩,就是看各家廠商散熱怎麼樣了
@MononoSen3 ай бұрын
性能絕對不會過剩 每次都要講一次
@master556883 ай бұрын
幾年前誰敢想高通跟發哥可以挑戰蘋果 而到時也沒有人想到發哥可以比肩高通
@DavidGamersChannel3 ай бұрын
以前安卓用户只能默默忍受苹果用户口中的A芯片外星科技。
@Nemesis_6783 ай бұрын
9:19 Can someone tell me on which platform this video is available?
@Sky-zf2jz3 ай бұрын
bilibili
@IREXIC3 ай бұрын
@@Sky-zf2jz 他以為那是動畫 你應該跟他說那是什麼遊戲才對
@brianlei10273 ай бұрын
請問, NPU 那家強
@Mahmoud-pv6ro3 ай бұрын
Chinese tech reviewers are the best!
@lamhkak473 ай бұрын
那什麼時候手機SOC上筆記本?
@Ray-z6r9x3 ай бұрын
已經有了 xelite就是
@jonathanchentw3 ай бұрын
早就有了,但建議你還是用 lunar lake,ARM 真的不適合用在電腦
@蔡明軒-d8i3 ай бұрын
以Snapdragon 8 Elite為設計基底的Snapdragon X Elite/Plus已經是在Windows On ARM筆電上登場過了(發表時間在2024年6月),就不知道還會不會有X Elite/Plus 第二代用在筆電上的晶片就是了。 至於ARM公版架構(X925、X725等系列),預計是由聯發科(主CPU、NPU和其他運算部件)和NVIDIA(主GPU和圖形單元等)合作推出Windows On ARM筆電晶片,現已完成Tape Out,預計2025年第四季發表與機型上市。
@jcfawerd3 ай бұрын
835 / 850 / 8cx ..... 早就有了
@rickywong69463 ай бұрын
不用搞什麼超線程 遙遙領先
@Wei-gh5ji3 ай бұрын
最近幾年手機soc的進步太多了吧?都感覺我poco f5的7+gen2不夠用了
@vickie_g3 ай бұрын
ARM cancelling Qualcomm's ISA license because they want qualcomm to use ARMs cores to extract more money out of qualcomm really put a downer on this whole thing. Great job Qualcomm tho.
@gillest94323 ай бұрын
Licence was between Nuvia and Arm to build soc for servers...as Qualcomm uses this licence to build terminals, Arm's complain isn't totaly absurd...object changed, contract should be renegociated. Qualcomm did far worst with CDMA/LTE licence.
@vickie_g3 ай бұрын
@@gillest9432 ARM doesn't want to renegotiate tho. They want to stop licensing out their ISA entirely and want vendors to only use their cores so that ARM can charge more per chip.
@-Blue-_3 ай бұрын
@@gillest9432 Qualcomm said that their new Orion v2 is completely new architecture and not based on Nuvia so ARM is wrong here
@becontentandsilencethemind15623 ай бұрын
Does this mean the x elite 2 will be insane!
@kamwardmama-o24242 ай бұрын
Pls upload also in your english channel and wheres the other dude ?
@doggo643 ай бұрын
Can we get the other narrator back pls?i barely see him now:(
Maybe the increase in battery temperature of iphone 16 vs android is due to resolution? Resolutions always put a lot of load on the cpu after all. 😅
@-Blue-_3 ай бұрын
Again age old excuses from a isheep admit it now that snapdragon is now far better than crapple A18 pro in GPU just go and see the realme 7 pro video you will get the answer how crazy powerful is 8 elite GPU compared to crapple A18 pro
@swatttrcf30413 ай бұрын
@@-Blue-_ lemme clear some stuff for you:- 1. Im not saying 8 elite is weak 2. I own both s24u and iphone 16 plus 3. If you have true "knowledge" about ANY phone then u will know ALL mobile games use most of cpu not gpu 4. If cpu heats up then there is no reason of gpu to be 1000000% efficient bcz it will get heat from cpu and throttle like hell. 5. Higher resolution= higher quality= higher power consumption= higher temps.
@-Blue-_3 ай бұрын
@@swatttrcf3041 now let me clear some stuff for you 1) go and see the geekerwan video 2) most of the games work on GPU in phones where you get this information that they are 100% work on CPU most of the rendering is happening on GPU this is what GPU do kiddo 😂😂😂 3) now snapdragon 8 elite is more powerful than A18 pro 4) improve your basic knowledge on CPU, GPU, NPU, APU 🤡🤡
@tysloo813 ай бұрын
不知道可以跑Windows吗
@hectorwillie3 ай бұрын
刚买了x200 pro,感觉9400好像不香了。
@ianhys3 ай бұрын
小米:誒不是那個首發!?
@青衫如故-w6l3 ай бұрын
是首发,不过没之前那样有几个月的独占期了
@dudereally3123 ай бұрын
小米还是29号全球首发,所以一加荣耀才疯了一样把设备提前曝光。
@阿才-f1x3 ай бұрын
手機晶片這麼牛皮 反觀桌機... 敲碗15代 intel
@charname-player3 ай бұрын
没有15代,只有凹凸啦
@DavidGamersChannel3 ай бұрын
给Intel时间吧。给台积电代工会好起来的。
@a09262448223 ай бұрын
獵戶座 已經看不到任何一家的車尾燈了,,
@harshmehta3293 ай бұрын
insaneeeeeee android the goat is back
@JOJOChen10063 ай бұрын
今明年換手機有料
@jerryyan41313 ай бұрын
一听续航一加不让说 就意会到这处理器耗电续航不怎样。
@VirgoTw_19902 ай бұрын
可是能效曲線看起來還行 就看各家廠商怎麼調整了
@台灣Taiwan3 ай бұрын
魯迅:又我?😂😂😂
@tractormax3 ай бұрын
Yay English subtitles. 9:01 if only iPhone use vapor chamber like android, then for sure they can become the leader
@-Blue-_3 ай бұрын
no they cannot, you apple isheeps only know excuses
@tractormax3 ай бұрын
@@-Blue-_ Come on. You can see in the camera how heat spot is present in iphone but heat in android is more spread out.
@-Blue-_3 ай бұрын
@@tractormax just admit it heat management of 8 elite was better numbers don't lies remember that
@panjak3237 сағат бұрын
Btw if you have root. Set CPU to 2.4/2.8 GHz and GPU to 660 MHz to get 8 gen 3 speed without throttling.