Gel Testing 5.56 & 223 Bonded Soft Point Ammo - Ranger RA556B, Ammo Inc Blue Line & Federal XF223SP

[@robbabcock_]

Nice video! SGAmmo is a great company to deal with, been buying from 'em for at least a decade now.👏

[@comradeyuri8492]

NICE ! Thank you sir !

[@BarbosaUral]

The nice thing about jell is you can reuse it and also make your own rather easily

[@andrewyuengling]

Where can I buy these ballistic gel blocks?

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

@@andrewyuengling amazon

[@kimreid8889]

​@@andrewyuengling clear ballistics

[@BarbosaUral]

@@andrewyuenglingClear Ballistics, Optics Planet, Ballistics Dummy Lab and many other places. Google it.

[@CheeseBurgerXJ]

You should do a velocity test for the xf223sp

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

We are having our range rebuilt the last 2 weeks, with side berms, new backstop and a full 100 yards of range, its going to be so much better and a little bit more neighborly to the people ling near SGAmmo with some noise control from the side berms. Once the bulldozer guys are done and out we will do a velocity test on all 3 of these in a different video

[@CheeseBurgerXJ]

@@SGAmmo_LLC awesome that’s great to hear, I’ll be looking forward to seeing the new range setup. When do you think the price increase will happen for what you already have in stock?

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

@@CheeseBurgerXJThat depends on what the factories do on pricing, I am seeing a letter from Federal/CCI/Speer/Remington that there will be a May1st price increase on handgun ammo, but it does not give specifics. Ultimately I have to pass on increases, but things like this do not operate like clockwork, sometimes my changes happen early, sometimes they happen late, sometimes the factories bluff on an increase to drive sales, other times they do what they say they will do. I know the gunpowder shortage thing is real, too many different sources confirm this, so the factories will probably go up to offset higher powder costs and less production capacity

[@CheeseBurgerXJ]

@@SGAmmo_LLC yeah i was seeing what China was saying about selling their gunpowder and I figured the prices would be going up soon. I have a 12.5” barrel so I was wondering if the velocity test would be out before the price increase if it’s even possible to know what will happen between now and then

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

@@CheeseBurgerXJwe just did velocity test on this this morning. At 50 degrees, and 25' from muzzle to crono, in my 10.25" suppressed M16, xf223sp got 5 rounds at these velocities, 2487, 2459, 2478, 2516, 2510. Ammo inc got 2415, 2383, 2379, 2282, 2464. Winchester RA556B we had a chrono problem, and ended up with 3 readings, my son deleted 1 because he thought I had more ammo to test but I only had 2 spare rounds left and they got 2598 and 2571. So RA556B is faster, but that should be expected because it is 5.56 pressure level. Again this is in a 10.25" short barrel with suppressor, so these 'slow' numbers should be expected, numbers from 16" and 20" are faster and will be posted in the video

[@kimreid8889]

Why didn't you include the norma mle in this? I would have liked to seen its performance compared to these. Thanks for what you do!

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

Its almost gone so sort of pointless to test and it means breaking up a full can at this point which makes a lot more lost cost of product than a single box

[@kimreid8889]

Understandable ​@@SGAmmo_LLC

[@boiserules9377]

@@SGAmmo_LLC some of the low inventory is my fault... ;-)

[@CheeseBurgerXJ]

@@boiserules9377have you shot any how’s the accuracy? Trying to decide between the mle and xf223sp

[@donwyoming1936]

The Winchester 64gr Power Point has been a favorite of mine since the mid 90s. Works well on deer, antelope & coyotes. 🤠

[@olmangarcia943]

Them guys can keep the 68-77 OTM ill take a 62/64gr bonded sp for a do all load

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

the 64/62 bonded is probably way better for up close self protection or close range hunting, but at 100 yards you are typically looking at a 4" to 6" group with a projectile like this. Outside 100 yards or less, that is where the OTM match bullets become the way to go because it is reasonable to expect much better accuracy. Probably good to have some of both

[@freneticfanatic]

​@SGAmmo_LLC I got 1moa groups with of Federal Fusion 62gr sp. Gotta see how each load groups with your guns.

[@Moss535]

Great test guys, i just found your channel a couple wks ago and love it. Have been browsing your website and i saw that federal load so im glad to see you test it. I was wondering how it would compare to the fusion loading other than being a lil cheaper! Looks go to go for me seems like the same performance from what i saw. Thanks again and looking forward to getting some of these.

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

I doubt we test Fusion, the gel blocks are so expensive we want to focuc on products that have the potential of selling in good volume

[@Moss535]

@@SGAmmo_LLC i dont blame you, it looks as if that loading performed about the same as fusion anyway. Which was more of my point, btw your catalog of videos is very impressive im definitely enjoying going through it.

[@bearrage80]

Notice the federal white box didn’t have all the burned powder in the wound cavity. It’s completely clean so i guess the powder burns better idk. Thanks for the test Mr. Gabbert

[@boiserules9377]

Nice observation! Probably developed for SBR's similar to the Norma MLE 64gr.

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

curious about this as well, I notice that in the test, but do not want to draw conclusions on this. Maybe some other viewers know something I do not and can comment

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Good results. Thank you. Personal defense, Varmint and maybe close range whitetail or hog.

[@AlphaChimpEnergy]

That’s great consistency.

[@kevnitestalker8561]

Need some 100yds gel testing for us hunters…

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

I'm not sure if I can hit a gel block at 100 yards ;), maybe after some fine tuning, 15 feet is more in my range, but we will give it a try some time

[@freneticfanatic]

This can easily be simulated by using a shorter barrel at 15 yards. The velocity decrease to a 12.5 or 13.7in barrel should suffice for the 100 yard velocity shot.

[@ryanguldbrandsen7672]

What's the barrel length on the rifle?

[@marcgappmayer1529]

its a basic carbine so 16 inches

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

Yes, standard 16" carbine

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

6.8 spc gel testing?

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

The 6.8 SPC ammo market is just plain dead right now, very little buying going on, not sure if the video would produce enough sales to recoup its cost of the gel

[@985shane]

Winchester ra556b is the best

[@TimKollat]

anyone ever have any issues with the 64g wider soft point hanging up on feed ramps?

[@IK3A]

RA556B in 11.5" 👍

[@beowulf9878]

Any idea how xf223sp and xm556fbit3m compare?

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

I have not seen a round of xm556fbit3m available to me in the past 10 years. A long time ago some when around that I was able to get, and it sold out Oct 14 2012, then nothing since then ever available to me

[@marzcapone9939]

BoneFrogGunClub has some fbit3 in stock

[@goawaybaizuo]

Can LE buy the Winchester ra556b for less than the outrageous msrp

[@SGAmmo_LLC]

It is an expensive product for sure. Your department might be able to order it from Winchester FET-out (no 11% excise tax and no sales tax), but it probably will still cost about the same as what I sell it for as this lot was discounted by the factory due to the primer sealant issues, normally it is about $30 a box

[@charltont23]

@@SGAmmo_LLC whats the issue with the primer sealant?

[@donwyoming1936]

I think the ~$400 kit to melt, clean (filter), and reuse the gel blocks is probably worth the money. Make your own when you need them. 🤠