Gen-X Hate Revisited (Full Version) (Complete)

[@Deuter666]

As an Art school dropout, merch designer and screenprinter, it seemed that being a cultural “cusp-er” was where the impetus for radical change. I hope some young creators start rebelling against the generational Groupthink and Group-angst.

[@cartoonaesthetics]

Generational differences interest me, but ultimately every generation just kinda goes with the flow of forces beyond their control & it's up to a small minority to lead the way (either to enlightenment or to damnation)

[@juniorjames7076]

I remember the late 1990s was when Independent titles became dominant in literary culture. My friends who never touched comics in the 80s or early 90s, were reading Sandman and Preacher, or independent books like Love & Rockets, Hate, Persepolis, etc. by the early 2000s. This was also when you could find comics being sold at places like Barnes & Noble or WalMart (unheard of the '80s!) and The NYTimes or Spin Magazine would have issues devoted to popular graphic novels.

[@cartoonaesthetics]

Yes! Yes!! All that momentum! What happened to it?!?? (several things)

[@juniorjames7076]

@@cartoonaesthetics ".....what happened..?" The same thing that happened to Hard Rock, Punk, Heavy Metal, Hip Hop.....mainstream acceptance killed an artform that began out of pure love and pain.

[@absolutemadman110]

Now most bookstores have massive manga sections and only a single bookshelf dedicated to legacy comics like Watchmen

[@theexecutorz5413]

I didn't know to post this on part 3,but thank you for the videos. I really can't wait to see what you got in store for next

[@cartoonaesthetics]

I'm glad you enjoyed them!

[@absolutemadman110]

Top notch series! Interested to see what else you have in the works.

[@cartoonaesthetics]

The next one will be animation related. I want the "Cartoon" part of cartoon aesthetics to cover a variety of mediums

[@Longviewer17]

Love your content man! Keep it up, can’t wait to see what you make next.

[@cartoonaesthetics]

@@Longviewer17 thanks!

[@ObscureHuman]

As a hate fan since 2018, its good to know there is still fellow fans and a audience :)

[@cartoonaesthetics]

It's gratifying to know that I've gotten even a few people to check it out & enjoy it

[@stifledvoice]

I've been a P-Bag fan since the mid 1980's . Fantagraphics used to send me free boxes of goodies to review for my zine and mainstream writing. Interesting about Peter's recent line work looking less polished since his early days. I wonder if the change is because of physical limitations as a boomer or if he consciously slacked on his earlier impeccable style or if he just grew tired and disenchanted with it and is just going through the motions. Fun to listen to a younger generation give a history lesson on the time I lived through. Still waiting for some studio to buy the rights from him for a full blown 3D Buddy Bradley movie.

[@cartoonaesthetics]

Looking forward to Illumination Studios' Buddy / Minions crossover

[@stifledvoice]

@@cartoonaesthetics 😄

[@Gantonio865]

great video, surprisingly analyzes the comic rly damn well even through i'm more of a manga/japanese comics reader, having a few of them in my life, i'm looking foward to it since i never read this one before so i can't wait for what you're doing next. and also i have this question since im fairly new to indepedent comics in general, which ones youd recommend?

[@cartoonaesthetics]

Glad you enjoyed the video - besides Hate, I would recommend checking out the works of Daniel Clowes, Johnny Ryan, David Lapham, Charles Burns, Adrian Tomine, Robert Crumb - it all depends what you're into. Are you looking for more comedic stuff, or dramatic? What kind of genres do you like?

[@Gantonio865]

​@@cartoonaesthetics Well, i mostly like drama and action and the former is what im looking for, but sometimes i also enjoy comedic stuff

[@cartoonaesthetics]

@@Gantonio865 I would recommend Daniel Clowes first & foremost because he's great at human drama, with a touch of humor - Ice Haven, Wilson, The Death-Ray, and Caricature (a collection of short stories) are all great books

[@timothylangston3560]

22:00 No! Not Buddy with the "Hauk Tui"!

[@legogeek4000671]

This series was excellent (the videos I mean) what’s next for you? Crumb? Modern Underground cartoonists?

[@cartoonaesthetics]

It'll be something animation related. Crumb is a huge topic that will need to be broken down into more than one sub-topic. Even this series was just a sub-topic of Peter Bagge; there's other comics of his I'd like to talk about that would warrant their own (admittedly shorter) vids

[@numbuh1507]

And now to hear you tear LS mark's pilot apart

[@cartoonaesthetics]

I don't have the kind of schedule that allows me to make a review anytime soon, but I might get to it someday. Actually I haven't even watched it yet. Maybe it's good!

[@timothylangston3560]

I don't get why we haven't had a Love and Rockets live action series.

[@ciscornBIG]

There was a movie...

[@cartoonaesthetics]

It'll probably get made for Netflix & be terrible

[@LeoLoikkanen]

It would be interesting to see you cpver autobiographical comics and Harvey Pekar at some point in the future. Interested in hearing your thoughts.

[@cartoonaesthetics]

I do like Harvey Pekar, that would be a good topic.

[@truteal]

Can I ask what's your next doco going to be about?

[@cartoonaesthetics]

Something animation related

[@truteal]

@@cartoonaesthetics Excellent (I was disappointed that your first was about a comic)

[@cartoonaesthetics]

@@truteal comics are good

[@theexecutorz5413]

​@@cartoonaesthetics alt/indie comics are life

[@cartoonaesthetics]

​@@theexecutorz5413 mr t ate my balls

[@raimywinter2309]

🤘🏻🎱🤘🏻

[@altohippiegabber]

I also loved Dan Clowes' EIGHTBALL but I have complete set of HATE

[@raimywinter2309]

​@@altohippiegabber Same

[@raimywinter2309]

Long live hate ball

[@Deuter666]

Bagge is a Boomer

[@cartoonaesthetics]

I don't agree with the "1946-1964" definition of Boomers. In my opinion the earliest Gen Xers were born in the early 60s

[@Deuter666]

@@cartoonaesthetics Now they are hungry to name a generation before they are even born The “Greatest Generation” wasn’t named until after thousands died in WWII

[@mbeecher9921]

Wait this isn't about the comic

[@cartoonaesthetics]

I get there eventually