Gen Z doesn't look old...you're just brainwashed by beauty standards.

Gen Z doesn't look old...you're just brainwashed by beauty standards. Millennials are dragging Gen Z for looking old and it's hypocritical. In today's video we will be deep diving into the world of millennials vs gen z tiktok and the battle of who is aging worse, which is a completely shallow, toxic and body shaming trend that just shouldn't exist. Millennials grew up with body shaming in the 90's, so it's ironic and hypocritical to be doing the same to gen z for looking "older" or even down right comparing themselves to young gen z'ers and labeling themselves as "better looking" and superior...it's just time to stop! It's not a competition. The obsession with beauty standards, romanticizing youth and the pressure to stay young is pushing gen z to use preventive skincare and botox as early as possible. This is slowly destroying young people's self esteem, while simultaneously making even younger people, such as gen alpha, become sephora kids that feel they need to stop aging as fast as possible due to millenials participating in these ageist and body shaming trends that demonize getting older.
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[@HeatherFragglehead]

I can never tell anyone’s age ever. I blame 27 year old actors playing high schoolers on tv when I was young. 😂

[@astridramea2714]

And 28 year old playing their parents.

[@g_willow]

Yes all the almost 30 year old high snchool students from the 90210 zip code

[@g_willow]

Yes all the almost 30 year old high snchool students from the 90210 zip code

[@bhadgyaledds3333]

Ikr 😢

[@JoseHernandez-gy7qu]

They still do look at euphoria 🤣

[@tamiasmith2097]

Can we just accept that everybody looks different instead of shaming entire races, genders, and age groups?

[@KittyTrackz]

THIS ^^

[@_salemtovar_]

apparently that's too hard 😔😔😔

[@augustaseptemberova5664]

this, and I'd add .. if you take good care of yourself (whatever that means to any person) and you're proud and wanna flaunt, go for it - just don't do it at the expense of other people. if you can't shine without throwing shade at others, we don't see a pretty and proud person, we see a petty and insecure person.

[@CutiePatutie_SmookiePookieBear]

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[@wmverk]

_pfft_

[@heyrrose]

The other day, I was told that I “look good for 24” after being mistaken for being younger. What do people think 24-year-olds look like??? How is 24 old enough to say someone “looks good for” their age???

[@manda00613]

what in thu world. yeah I think that’s weird too haha! Isn’t 24 like as young as you can possibly be with a fully developed body and brain?

[@oldaccount90909]

Lol this happened to me at the doctor's the other day. Dude was checking me in and was like "you don't look 27. Keep doing whatever you're doing" and I'm like, my brain only stopped fully developing like 2 years ago?? What do you expect people in their 20s to look like?? Lmao

[@prismaticcromatic3962]

@@oldaccount90909 Lol I was told "you still look like you are in your 20s!" And I just turned 30 lol. I mean...

[@cloudyskiees]

like why do we suddenly expect 25 year olds to look dry and wrinkly 😭

[@theconvent6183]

and the wording is so gross. why is it ‘good for ur age’ and not just ‘younger than ur age’ or something similar?

[@courtneycoleman6849]

As someone who’s best friend died at 25, aging is a privilege and blessing. I welcome every grey hair, every fine line, every wrinkle. Everything she never got to see in herself I’m so blessed to be able to experience. Every single day we get on this earth and get to see our bodies grown and change is a gift

[@_salemtovar_]

Yes 100%...I've lost so many people at a young age that I would have loved to see them grow older and just be here, I could care less how they'd look.

[@klaytonalexandermatthews2047]

I'm actually excited for my first grey hair, it means I've likely lasted longer than my mother

[@SheDetective]

Well said! ❤aging is a blessing!

[@abz_414]

This was simply beautiful! 💗

[@bugsbunni4200]

My condolences

[@TheRealCommanderWolffe]

The fact I've only seen this trend targeted towards women really tells you a lot.

[@maywalker997]

There was literally a dude in the video so that's not true. Women also tend to get a lot more hung up over their appearance (and before you blame this on men, an enormous amount of the people talking about and commenting on this trend are all women/girls). Men are held to a lot of unfair beauty standards too, such as height.

[@JohnSmith-hv6ks]

Because cosmetic surgeries arent prevalent in men? Only women are are really harsh critique of appearance

[@ohbooyourselves]

​@@maywalker997 "a dude, in the video" Compred to how many women? Because There will always be anomalies.

[@potatowellcox8870]

@@maywalker9971 man vs many women

[@GoWhereYoureCelebrated]

Men create The beauty standards.

[@erojoy]

I never comment but a lot of this is a sweeping generalization for people who are chronically online as well as those that have created an algorithm that produces these results. I never see things like this on TikTok. I actually think my feed is generally positive and shows a lot kind millennials proud of where they are at living their best lives, aging gracefully, and staying respectful of others. It’s unfortunate that people get pigeonholed into a negative feedback cycle on TikTok that gives an inaccurate view of the world and the way that the majority people (yes including millennials) actually think.

[@Pingu-.-nootz]

Same here ! I follow a lot of neurodivergent people so I’m starting to think that may have something to do with the positive kind vibes 🎉

[@PsychicRenegadeTarot]

Literally. I only see Gen Z complain about this- I haven’t seen any millennials actually say this.

[@antoniademetri]

@@erojoy this!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 “Chronically online” is the best description for these people I’ve ever heard 👌🏼

[@isaantioquia]

@@PsychicRenegadeTarot you’re exactly who we’re talking about 🙏

[@PsychicRenegadeTarot]

@@isaantioquia How so?

[@toxyvella]

Funny how we don't seem to care how men are aging to the same degree we care about how women are aging....🦆

[@42_10_]

drop mic

[@silvsin_66]

​@@42_10_ mic drop

[@missandry2669]

@@BooksToAshesmost men aren’t attractive the sliver fox line is a lie.

[@amorelockster1023]

No Fr

[@catiel8978]

It's tied to evolution. Youth in women = fertility. A man that has aged with means and no ailments = security and good genes to mate with.

[@Emiisyoutube]

The beauty standard thinks young = beautiful. Aging is so looked down upon

[@nachgeben]

Welcome to literally the whole of human history. That's LITERALLY how humans have always been.

[@mordecaiissad8529]

Only for women.

[@Tatf-v6n]

I think women believe men won’t find them attractive anymore if they’re “older” which is why women are so obsessed with looking young But I think this is true. I’ve heard a lot of men talk about girls, and lust over young women. (20s) Maybe this is the issue. When men marry young, they still love and are attracted to their partners even when they’re older (of course if they are married forever)

[@gabyelizabeth9624]

@@nachgeben not everywhere. aging was once rare. people only lived so long, many cultures would praise the old. it was majorly northern Europe and Asia that had stricter standards of beauty for women. when colonization began these standards spread and stuck. i mean there are many people still today who find older women attractive. its just mainstream advertising that shoves this standard down our throats and makes people believe there is no value in becoming old.

[@Selina-yc5lr]

There's still a sort of ethereal elegance and wisdom associated with old age sort of that is seperated from attractiveness. But ~god~ ```the beauty industry``` forbid you belive your attractive if you don't look like a teenager in your 30s. I dont know how to cross things out or make it monospace but that's what the punctuation is for

[@MeowNya16]

Honestly I just hate ageism, born 1996 and my coworkers how are born just 3 years after me say I'm old this, old that. Like at this point ya I'm pushing 30 not the nursing home 💓⏲️

[@DesperationLasts]

I'm a millennial and I don't personally know any other millennials who do this to Gen z. I think the Internet attracts bullies and narcissists and it can make these ideas seem defining of a generation, but most of us are just normal people living our lives. Haters are gonna hate on whatever they think you're sensitive about, which often is based around what they're sensitive about.

[@ohokaythankyou]

I agree with this. I don’t like being lumped with the chronically online millennials.

[@kshum1711]

This. And it bugs me when she makes vast generalizations about millennials. Generations aren't monoliths. And the videos TikTok's algorithm are showing you aren't representative of how an entire generation thinks, feels, and acts. They're showing you videos they know you'll engage with. Also, it's funny she can make a whole video insulting millennials about their parenting and then make another video complaining that millennials are insulting the way gen Z looks. Can we say hypocrisy? Maybe drop the inter-generational war crap, but I guess it gets clicks and $$$.

[@guera18cpt]

@@kshum1711 YES!! Exactly! I keep giving her the benefit of the doubt because I like her channel, but it’s getting to the point where she’s just bashing on millennials. Kinda feels like she’s putting us down to stroke her ego. Hypocritical indeed.

[@sisters00]

Keep quiet. The youngsters are discovering generational war

[@Sabrange]

same here

[@Emiisyoutube]

Tik tok is rotting everyone’s brains :(

[@_salemtovar_]

ngl i deleted it like three weeks ago off my phone and now im so much happier!

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

I think these platforms in general bring out the worst in us. People said the same thing about Facebook, and if it weren't Facebook or Tiktok, it would be something else. Folks have a lot of inner work to do.

[@kongking6860]

It’s every social media at this point. The comments I’ve read on Instagram reels has shown me everything I need to know about how viscous an average person is when they’re behind the screen.

[@NathanDuabanTheSonicEnthusiast]

Literally

[@hoshilam1485]

@@_salemtovar_ you’re so real for that 😭

[@carlacampbell9708]

It’s all the surgery. Getting the same surgery as a 40 year old will make you look 40.

[@marmaduke5207]

This- filler makes young people look a lot older! It stretches skin, especially when you get it so young and keep doing it over and over again. It weakens the facial muscles. These “anti-aging” things that we’re getting young are ruining our faces.

[@amberleenerts306]

That’s where my brain went. All the fillers and the fake eyelashes and such are things we’re used to seeing on older women, not young people. It’s the cosmetic procedures that throw me off the most though.

[@unrealizzztic]

"Aging is a priviledge okay?, and in fact, I can't wait to die" -Salem 2024 Soooo relatable

[@ThickestSkull03]

How did I read that right when she said that thooo? 💀

[@razelisthename9959]

In the Philippines, white hair is seen as "wisdom" that you've gained through life. And the younger generations are embracing their white hair.

[@CyberMachine]

When are they going to embrace their skin color? I visited and received free skin bleaching cream from buying an essential oil. When I went to Sephora they asked if I wanted my color or 2 shades lighter. I thought it was bad in Thailand but its really bad there.

[@alysiannnn8274]

@@CyberMachine I'll be honest- I don't know. Colorism is rampant here in the Philippines. Sure, there are morenos and morenas that are praised for their beauty but unless you already look flawless, your skin will be criticised. I feel like the younger generation are more open to a wider gradient of skin colour, but I could be wrong as taking gluta pills is also popular. It's a deep rooted problem and will take decades to improve.

[@ya.02]

@@alysiannnn8274 unless the media stop promoting white skin as beautiful then a lot of kids will embrace it, especially from the less privileged class. I do have high hopes for the younger generation because there’s a lot more morena actresses now compared before.

[@KittyTrackz]

i love bright white hair, i think it looks otherworldly

[@eo0-g9j]

@@CyberMachine oh please western people TAN ALOT but do we say they are trying to be dark?

[@sarahwatts7152]

There's a lot of us vs. them talk in this, I think we shouldn't demonize all people of any generation. Demonize the chronically online ones, fine, but attitudes like "okay boomer" haven't served us well in the past

[@juliekring7574]

True

[@Nymeria64]

I always hated the ok boomer, funny if you’re doing it humorously and the other person laughs but bad when you’re completely dismissing someone simply since they’re old

[@lupitamendiolar5262]

Tiktok has made everyone SO INSECURE and yet SO SHALLOW???

[@niarahancock4739]

I personally don’t think TikTok or any social media “made” people shallow it’s just the shallow people in the world now have a voice……and they are too damn loud

[@lupitamendiolar5262]

@niarahancock4739 definitely not the app but we can't deny that a lot of trends have made people very insecure about things we can't control but the funny thing is that people with those insecurities are projecting them on others. That comes off as shallow to me. I'm not sure if I explained myself well enough.

[@antares64917]

​@@niarahancock4739Definitely, Tiktok acts as a platform that attracts the shallow ones. I remember I heard somewhere that if idiots could fly, Tiktok would be an airport lol.

[@sk8aintstr813]

@@niarahancock4739 it is stupid to think social media brainrot has not impacted us as a whole

[@ally9553]

@@sk8aintstr813it can be a combo of both

[@Thisaccountisnotabot]

This topic is so dumb from every side, generation whatever you want to label it as. It’s just another way to divert attention from social issues that DO matter like freaking inflation and wages. EVERYONE is suffering. If millennials and Gen Z can stop with all the petty arguments we can actually come together to make a huge difference in our world/society.

[@CoquetteCygnet]

Exactly. This topic of which generation is “aging better” is very shallow and tiring. Everyone is going to age eventually.

[@mordecaiissad8529]

​@@CoquetteCygnetbased exclusively on some of the random content that crosses my way Im kinda thinking there's a good chunk of online gen z that think they won't age because they hacked aging with skin care.

[@CoquetteCygnet]

@mordecaiiissad8529 lol I think a lot of people online make anti-aging content because they know it appeals to the younger demographic and unfortunately kids. It’s a very age-old trend of generations wanting to stay young for as long as possible, and that’s not likely to change. Most of my gen z friends aren’t interested in anti-aging stuff which is a blessing, social media can become this echo chamber of people telling others that they have to be concerned with aging when in real life, bigger things are happening. All you can really do is live well, exercise somewhat often, and drink lots of water, not to prevent aging but to age naturally and prevent back issues 😂

[@mordecaiissad8529]

@@CoquetteCygnet yeah the few genzs I'm interacting with aren't like that either. That's why I specified the context of the people I'm refering to. and thanks for providing even more proof people outside those spaces aren't like that.

[@CoquetteCygnet]

@@mordecaiissad8529 that’s great to hear! and no worries, I understood the context of your comment in regards to specific gen z related content, you’re right about some gen z influencers being convinced that they cracked the code to warding off wrinkles. thanks for the reply!

[@thesolocreative3538]

I think we are talking on a very particular group of millenials. Because lets be honest, half the millenials i know including myself are removing ourselves from social media because the comment sections are too toxic in general. No matter the generation people are trying to point out the negative in everyone and its so tiring. Anyways, while i understand the millenials upset by the negative millenial take, especially when we have copped it for both our generation and gen z by politicians and media for years. I also have to step back and realise this is a small minority of social media obsessed millenials that may just be trying to troll and be antagonistic for the sake of it online.

[@hilowpeoples]

And ultimately what's even wrong with looking old? Live your life! Have experiences, have fun. Bodies are just vessels we live in imo and the way it looks doesn't matter as much as what you do within that body.

[@MaynardsSpaceship]

👏 👏

[@MonstehDinosawr]

we are all just living meat suits

[@Selina-yc5lr]

Especially when people start caring about aesthetics more than their actual health and wellbeing. Its inasane beacause to me getting wrinkles won't ever be as bad as never being able to smile again.

[@ll2323]

@@Selina-yc5lr true wealth is health.

[@maywalker997]

People are insecure and looking for self-soothing responses because a lot of people get very hung up over how sexually attractive others deem them to be.

[@LunarWanderlust]

As someone born sort of on the “cusp” of Gen z & millennials (dec 95) I just watch all this stuff so confused 🥲 I can’t tell the difference between anyone 20-40 half the time, we all need to chill

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqq7665]

I thought Genz begins in 1997. Makes more sense to me.

[@christianellison4675]

I totally feel u lol

[@fuosdi64]

You're not the cusp. Gen Z starts in 97.

[@rileygay1235]

if it helps, you’re definitely in the millennial range! i feel like there’s a general cultural blend between 95-04 that makes people tend to relate to millennials and gen z accordingly

[@fuosdi64]

@@rileygay1235 95-04? Dude anyone 2000+ is 100% Gen Z. That's a world of difference. Plus Millennials go from 1981 to 1996.

[@taradois]

i'm 36, no kids, career woman - i personally credit my youthful look to clinical depression and going several years without emoting. there's a joke in there somewhere i.e. "my botox was sadness". regardless, i did NOT survive the 2000's without an ED, and i credit that to my monthly vogue subscription i started receiving at age 12 (yes, the actual physical magazine). i cannot imagine what it is like coming of age today as a female, but this is the best i've got so far for ya'll - 1. set boundaries with social media, and media in general, meaning: step the F away on a regular basis. 2. identify your physical preoccupations honestly, as things you'd like to change vs. things you MUST change, to live a better life. 3. if you do #2 and there truly isn't anything you must shell out thousands of dollars to change, then be patient and wait until at LEAST 25-27, and i promise, your body is more than likely to do the rest.

[@emeraldtree13]

Do we even have “beauty standards” anymore? It seems to me that people are just looking for any excuse, no matter how flimsy, to tear apart someone’s appearance. They’re not comparing women against some definable “standard,” they’re just making up reasons to be cruel because that’s the culture on places like TikTok - everyone is competing to see who can be the biggest jerk. It’s the cruelty that’s the point, not your failure to live up to a “standard.”

[@CoquetteCygnet]

exactly. it’s just a bullying contest at this point of who can come up with the most liked barely concealed insult.

[@catiel8978]

Bullying beauty standards have been around for eons. It's how women fight and compete for male attention.

[@Flawlesslmperfection]

This. Tiktok is just making existing issues with bullying bigger, faster, and more widespread. The issue isn't millennials or gen z, it's just nasty toxic people spreading drama, hate, and negativity for views and attention.

[@Caloopsie]

@@CoquetteCygnet EXACTLY. Ive been thinking this for a while now, biggest reason people are so cruel is because they seek attention and approval though Likes on comments...cruelty and literally bullying doesnt stop them as long as people will think its funny/like the Comment

[@antares64917]

​@@catiel8978It's literally very normal to have competition among both genders, and that's how sexual selection works. Meanwhile some wicked corporates have set some unrealistic beauty standards to create insecurity among women to tap money from them.

[@ThePolkadog]

I don't get the benefit of generalizing entire generations

[@glitterkitty1979]

Totally underrated comment

[@BoringTroublemaker]

As an elder millennial (42) I have been told by gen z repeatedly that I’m “old, dehydrated, hideous, need Botox, etc” just because I disagreed with something they said. I’m not going to ever insult someone’s appearance because that’s disgusting behavior, but let’s not pretend that gen z hasn’t had their own role to play here. And furthermore, it’s not millennials job to coddle gen z into feeling better about their appearance, _especially_ when they have been shamelessly hostile towards the appearance of anyone older than them. I’m classifying this as “not at all my problem.” With a touch of “don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.”

[@leslieshchegolev5310]

I love this “don’t dish out what you can’t take”. As a millennial I constantly see gen z dragging other generation through the dirt. But as soon as it their turn it’s all tears?

[@BoringTroublemaker]

@@leslieshchegolev5310 exactly- and from what I can remember, millennials have been _begging_ gen z to _please, please, PLEASE_ not bring back the fashion trends we lived through in the 90s/early 2000s that made us feel terrible about ourselves, to avoid them having to live through the same damage. We’ve been met with hostile accusations and mockery for our trouble. We tried. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@sunnyxiao69]

Most of these people are just online; and it's much easier to be mean online. As a gen z just know i think you're beautiful and you're absolutely right about treating everyone with respect. As for the fashion trends, I think I would prefer wearing 2000s clothes to the now common short crop tops and revealing outfits teenagers (me) are pressured into wearing. I completely agree though, don't give hate if you can't take it.

[@yourfavperson3748]

But also don't you think that gen z acts the way they do because their parents failed to actually parent and shoved a screen infront of their face and that's how gen z and now gen alpha and from next year gen beta, have been growing up?

[@BoringTroublemaker]

@@yourfavperson3748 more than half of gen z are adults now. At some point you no longer get to blame being a jerk on your parents and need to take a little responsibility for yourself - generally, you lose that excuse well before you turn 18.

[@flyleelee5351]

I just realized as a millennial that the current fashion trends are going back to 1991-95 and it's the stuff our parents and kindergarten teachers used to wear so we correlate those styles to older people so when we see Gen Z rocking them, in our heads we're thinking, why are you dressed like an old lady? 😂

[@KitKat_293]

literally tho this is 100% what's going on.

[@tammystiletto]

That really makes sense

[@LittleMissDeeDee]

I agree. It’s not that Gen Z look older facially (although some do, I can’t lie), it’s that they carry themselves in a much “mature” and older fashion.

[@KeyKeyJay]

That and I think we automatically equate certain features that are associated with age (like getting filler and Botox) to being something for older people. I first saw the“how old do I look” trend come about when a 23 year old who was heavy into the “mob wife” aesthetic was mistaken for being in her 30s. She didn’t look “old” or bad at all - my mind just saw the chic Chanel suit jacket and her put-together make up and immediately was like “oh yeah 30”

[@CyberMachine]

Also their huge glasses is something my grandmother wore

[@cyclesofstrength]

I'm 30. I feel like I have to keep reminding people that 30 is still young. I don't think gen Z is aging fast or anything, but I think it is easy for our brains to associate the things celebrities who are in their 40s do and the things gen Z does as similar. Like how if we look at high-school photos from the 1950s, we think they look old, but that's because they are wearing the same style that today's old people wear (cuz old people usually wear things they have liked for a long time). That said, wear whatever you want! You're young in your 20s, you're young in your 30s! You're not old in your 40s, but rather I see it as being in your prime. When you reach 50, you're only half way there! There's so much life left! My grandma is in her 80s and I think she's beautiful! I think we should focus on nurturing our bodies, taking care of ourselves, and being kind.

[@ll2323]

30 is prime. That’s the bracket to be!

[@harsh3948]

@@ll2323 cope

[@ll2323]

@@harsh3948 cope harder. 🍪

[@cvpete]

Gorgeous comment!

[@Youser999]

There aren't a ton of people left who were in high school in the 1950s. Born, yes. But ones who were in high school would be in their mid to late 80s if still alive.

[@holocenebear5558]

Millennial here, what’s infuriating to me are content creators like this one who won’t stop fanning the flames of a generational animosity that wouldn’t exist without content creators blowing up the nonsense from a couple of chronically online goblins who happen to be millennials or gen z. My circle of friends and people we know through each other are also millennials and none of us punch down at gen z. We are too busy getting burnt out by our jobs in social work. We live along side you gen z. You came of age in a bleak and volatile world of climate collapse, and corporate driven hyper consumerism mutated and perpetuated by social media to create this horrific monster of unnatural unobtainable perfection. We know it’s hard and you try your best. And yeah it stings to constantly be blamed and labeled en mass for … well just about everything (especially petty drama that starts on tiktok) when all of us are trying our best to survive a world that is actively trying to break our spirit, kill us, and everything we love. My request to content creators like this one is to stop sensationalizing and punching down at millennials (especially for the harmless things we choose to take comfort in) and focus on the root causes of these issues.

[@ufink]

Thank you.

[@SameriaCrafts]

As a Gen Z, I agree! It’s just another way of scapegoating and causing division when we should be working together! I don’t discriminate on people based on their age or what they look like, I care about whether they are a good individual!

[@Hermeown13]

Yeah, I usually like Salem's takes, she's always coming from a good place, but I'm over the Millennial vilification. This isn't just her, but people could do less with forming their opinions on generations based on the TikToks of chronically online nobodies.

[@holocenebear5558]

@@SameriaCraftsWe should be working together and in real life I think we do a lot of the time 😊

[@tiffinylu942]

I get what you’re saying but usually when people make these type of takes it’s usually just people wanting you to stop talking because it triggers them or to tone police people when they speak on topics they don’t deem important. it’s easy to scroll pass unproblematic content that doesn’t resonate with you. I think as a whole her video came full circle bringing a current hot topic into a more overall bigger well rounded point about ageism, aging, and body image. Which are very important topics to speak on. And also, (not that articles are always the measurement for weather a topic is important or not) I think that the fact that this reach such a big article like The New York Times means it might not be a minuscule as you think or at the very least note worthy.

[@peachteatina]

I’m an older millennial and I had no idea this was a thing. I think the problem is people on TikTok are just being dramatic. 😂

[@ilovetwilight65]

@ville__ She was? How do you know?

[@PiaPancakes]

@@ilovetwilight65 Ville is a troll. I have seen them in other commentary channels accusing the creators of supporting Colleen Ballinger. Even those that have spoken out against her. They are sick whoever they are.

[@dutchylott8965]

I'm a 19 year old and I'm just finding out about this a month later

[@thebilliexojean]

Amen lol

[@koidandi]

The real enemy is the societal standard that "aging is bad" and people end up spending their lives trying to stop aging. A lot of people don't realize they could challenge the societal standard so they just fight/shame each other. I genuinely hope people stop trying to live up to an unattainable standard and just live for themselves.

[@nerdisaur]

Listen I’m a Gen Z, and I have absolutely met girlies younger than me who look much older than me because we associate puffy filler face with older women. A bartender thought this girl was my mother and she’s 5 years younger than me

[@coolbreeze5683]

I don't think it's a generational thing but I think the trend of using tons of skin products and getting procedures done actually ages people, which is the opposite intention. The more you fuss with yourself, the worse you'll look. These celebrities might look good on TV or in pics with good lighting and filters but in person, if they're full of botox, fillers, a bunch of stuff slathered on their skin, they probably don't look that great.

[@juliii_g]

This! And we associate lip filler and Botox with older women trying to look younger..

[@FoFoFolusho]

@@juliii_g Yea I agree. I see a person with face filler and lip filler and automatically assume they're in their 40s regardless of what they look like.

[@gracie2367]

All of this!

[@cindersapfrog5598]

Beauty standards have left people unfamiliar with what age actually looks like

[@seaurchinted]

@ville__ wait what is the info on this. can i read about this somewhere orrr

[@henrynightingale7590]

As a 29 yo I feel like this vid is kind of hostile towards people my age. Beauty standards were always harsh on women, no matter what age. And aging has always been a sensitive topic for all genders. Beauty industry is obsessed with “staying young” resulting in people developing Dorian Grey syndrome. I don’t think it’s about a certain generation. It’s really about what’s trendy.

[@mallarieluvsgirls]

it’s not? you’re just sensitive.

[@notherepim]

​@@mallarieluvsgirls ong fr, like cry about it

[@septiceye_3706]

"In many other cultures, aging is seen as beautiful. [...] Meanwhile in America, you're avoiding looking like you've gone through life. It's very, very strange because you're taking the human experience out of the human." Couldn't have said it better myself. I, too, would love to see evidence of me having lived my life to its fullest on my face in the form of wrinkles and so on at the end of my life. 🦆🦆🦆🦆

[@Livvy_V]

Social Media is ruining this world. The fact that people are going online to have people initially judge them is insane. I think it's just not millennials, I think is the people who chronically engage online. People are losing their sense of self.

[@tamaralukudu5717]

Stop bullying millennials. When us, Gen-z, make fun of millennials for being "quirky", "child-like" or "obsessed with themselves", we forget that we are the same way. Also, we sound like an older generation saying, "those darn kids of today....", to millennials. Like c'mon now.

[@rhiannonh.7463]

One step away from wearing glasses and shouting, “GET OFF MY LAWN!”

[@Smallenemyspider]

The thing with Kylie is that her face is way too overfilled, and it’s starting to really droop her face. I wouldn’t say she looks 40 but she definitely looks a little different than she used to

[@monbub]

Yeah, it's the consequences of using fillers. But she started as a teenager, so I feel more pity for her than anything.

[@VBoo459]

She deffo looks 35/40. Saying this as a 30 year old surrounded by 30-40 year olds. I have friends that look younger than her.

[@chop3266]

well u really got the point of the video, didn't you? :D

[@hellucination9905]

Fillers and Ozempic are destroying faces left and right.

[@JuliannaGeorgiana]

I think what you meant instead of the general term “millennials”, was that you meant the millennials on TikTok or whatever. There are plenty of us millennials with actual lives, who have never wasted a second on TikTok, who don’t raise iPad kids and are good parents, and would never make some narcissistic video claiming we’ve aged better than gen z or any other nonsense.

[@Kdf2021]

Exactly, my friend group and I have never talked about this sort of thing. Never thought about it because we don’t care lol

[@miraxterrik]

I agree, it felt such an overgeneralized thing about a whole generation. And what triggers me: what if someone doesn't wanna grow up/do adulting/read harry potter or whatever, now she picks on THEM with this comment. Is that a crime now too? It's their choice, so how about not making sarcastic comments about it? The same way how making derisive comments about having 5 kids? What if they do? But what if they are actually -gasp- childless? And funnily, none of my millennial friends with kids are iPad kids, so idk. I must know the wrong people...

[@monbub]

She's obviously only talking about the ones that broadcast their life on tiktok, and not everyone in the generation.

[@sakihanajima2651]

its even not the majority of millenials on tiktok. Some of them actually clarifying the trends that they dont agree with that. But, the thing is gen z is easily gaslighted. So, one or two narcisstic millenials is enough to fire up the entire generation.

[@justaname999]

@@sakihanajima2651 That is wild but apparently true. Salem and others have made this entire cottage industry with these videos scaring Gen Z people about how awful other generations are based on a couple of nut cases. What's next? "Millennials are all such terrible, dangerous vegan influencers because that Banana Girl woman is a millennial (I think she is but I'm not sure)."

[@overthinkingkpop]

Elder Millenial here. The reason that Gen Zers look "older" to me is that you all figured out makeup a decade sooner than any of my friends did. Y'all don't even know what a blessing KZbin makeup tutorials are. We were out there rawdogging it with the foam applicators from our Cover Girl mascaras, bless our hearts. It is appalling how busted we collectively looked in our high school photos by comparison. 😂

[@tolkienbliss]

Fillers age everybody by several years. Doesn't matter if you're Gen Z, or a Millenial.

[@canyouseethroughmytears]

@ville__Really?

[@ellster127]

​@ville__ get a hobby

[@bl3524]

Yeah, unless the people doing fillers are +55

[@m.saavedramena9533]

I don't understand this alleged generational beef. I'm a millenial and i freaking LOVE gen z'ers. I'll protect them with my life and i feel like my fellow millenials feel the same, at least the ones i know. We are probably the first generation to actively defend and like the next generation. Don't be fooled by the internet, we love you ❤

[@maria2337]

I feel the same, having a gen z sister and being online a lot made me feel protective of them cause I saw a lot of myself in their interests that fellow millennials don’t relate with. Like I promise the ones on TikTok don’t do us any justice, some of us are trying to bridge the gap and really care about the younger gen’s 😭

[@StormSought]

I feel like the millenials who are ON tiktok are maybe not a representative sample, as a cusper who is NOT on tiktok, dear god

[@BombshElle_7]

I think the beef is totally one-sided. Idk what we did to Gen Z, but they've hated us for years on the internet. I wanted to protect them, too. But they're vile towards us for NO GOOD REASON.

[@alegarcia9153]

@@BombshElle_7I’m on the other side. As a gen Z I can tell you that the so call “beef” with millennials wasn’t with just millennials but rather with people who are older than us. So pretty much like every other gen thinks adults want to tell them what to do instead of how… that being said, what beef I’ve actually seen directed towards millennials from gen z is only directed towards cringe middle age people who idolize looking and acting like literal kids…. This, however, is very directed, and may I dare say mean, towards gen z from the so called “adults” about an unnecessary topic (physical appearance). Even more considering the extreme beauty standards y’all had to go through. One would think someone who went through that wouldn’t want to push that into someone else

[@myathemango2936]

@@BombshElle_7 If you know about or pay attention to toxic family dynamics, it's basically because narcissistic parenting has a tendancy to divide siblings by pitting them against eachother. One of many examples of this divide would be most Boomers & half of Gen X parentifying millennials, thus millennials taking their anger out on gen z, & gen z having to constantly fight against everyone.

[@pabloescobarschanclas]

“aging is a privilege, in fact, i cannot wait to die” mood 💀

[@noellestradamus]

Most millennials? No. Most millienials on tiktok? Yes

[@michellehan7960]

Yea I think it’s mostly a TikTok thing because I’ve never seen my generation do “millennial core” stuff or obsess over the youthful plastic surgery snatched look and maybe it’s because I’ve never downloaded TikTok except for what has bled over to IG

[@ohitsclemenTIME]

Right? Like imagine making these wild statements generalizing an entire age group just because they spend 0 time interacting with people outside of TikTok but then wanna call us delusional. Like okgirl 😂

[@twigsno]

This chick just hates millenials. This is like the third anti millenial video she's put out in the past 6 months. It's getting pretty played out.

[@taylor3342]

@@twigsnothat and she’s upset millennials are apparently generalizing gen z and fights back by…generalizing millennials. Useless critique, boring, unsubbed.

[@Flawlesslmperfection]

100% there seems to be a small subsection of millennials who are terminally online and desperate for any sort of attention, whether negative or positive. It's a really bad take to blame an entire generation for their behaviour.

[@willferrett2312]

As a 30 year old, it was also considered “cringe” to like things made for us when we were younger too. A lot of us also felt forced to age up quickly. I work in the beauty industry and a lot of my clients are women 35+ and they are constantly putting themselves down and talking about how terrible it is to age (most of them are mid 40’s -50’s) and they don’t realize that I’m really only like 10 years or so younger than them. Im excited to age. Idk, I’m convinced my 30’s will be my prime decade. Aging truly is a privilege. I don’t understand why everyone is being so hateful.

[@nicoler5713]

Yeah, it definitely has been a thing for a long time. There was a reason the teenage girls at my school went so hard for Playboy products / got Playboy bunny tattoos - it was "adult" and therefore cool.

[@NickBlack-r6q]

You’re so right! It would break my heart when I was a brand rep working at stores like Ulta and Sephora and the women would constantly shame themselves. Including those who were just customers. I always would say aging is a privilege and not everyone gets to do it. And I’d tell them to put the magnifying mirrors down, stand in natural light to do your makeup, and don’t follow trends just stick with classics. We uphold music, art, film, etc from decades ago as “classics” but when it’s a person (woman) we’re talking about, our connotation switches to be negative. Words like “aged”, “mature”, etc. flip the script. Healthy aging is in, anti-aging is out. Healthy aging is an all encompassing term that includes mental and physical health, Got crows feet? So what?!?! If you take care of your mind and body and can go for a 2 mile run and still do pushups after at the age of 65, that’s more beneficial than a lifted face any day.

[@tessmoffett5512]

I’m simultaneously excited for and scared of aging. It’ll be so nice to (hopefully) know myself a little bit better every year and have more perspective on life, but it’s a bit jarring to know that society will eventually ignore me completely because I’m not young and hot.

[@antares64917]

Yeah everyone should stand against those unrealistic standards which's set by corporates for creating insecurities and taping money through it.

[@emilycanfield2634]

Same girl samee! I'm turning 30 this year and my life has been on such an upswing emotionally, mentally, financially etc...obviously its not perfect but...things are looking so great for the future

[@spicypillow]

Telling millennials to stop behaving a certain way and to act their age is borderline ageist, and really undermines the message you’re trying to get across in the rest of the video. Why should younger people NOT be afraid of aging when even creators that claim it’s okay to embrace it turn around in the next breath and tell *slightly* older people that the way they’ve always acted is no-longer “age appropriate”? Our culture of ageism isn’t just about looks, it’s also about policing (mostly women’s) behavior, dress, opinions, and eventually their overall visibility in public spaces.

[@AnaNovarae]

When ur a parent u better act like one

[@PeachyKins]

❤ 19:27 bc the millennials who WOULD share such positivity are not wasting their lives on tiktok. Think about it. Think about who uses tiktok and why. Then you all can stop millennial shaming ❤ it's absolutely a double standard 🙄 and no it's not my intention to tiktok shame, it's such a waste of life. That's my opinion. And it is proven by how skewed Gen z thinks millennial tiktokers are an accurate representation of millennials. Neither are famous millennials. Ffs. Grow up ;) just kidding xoxo 😘 🤗 💕

[@thebearcouncil8810]

Yeah, thinking abot it, the millenial "you look old" backlash might actually be retalliation for shaming some millenials for just being who they are without hurting anyone. So yeah, let them be "smol beans" or potatoes, and let them complain about adulting, it's usually harmless ways of coping with the idea of getting older and being thrown into a world you don't feel ready for. It is immature behaviour to retaliate by dragging people for looking older, but it's probably the only strategy they know, since they remember their own youth where the older generation was unable to shake off the "dated" label. We all just need to stop trying to police other peoples way of existing in the world, even if it makes us cringe.

[@ZEE-pq8tz]

The fact I got an anti aging ad right before this video :/

[@pleasestopscreaming]

I got a botox ad in the middle 😅

[@veroniqeveigner1996]

Unpopular opinion here: I don't think that generations is what matters in how people treat other people, I think it is the personality of each of us

[@DRT813]

Yeah, I don't get why it's suddenly "evil millennials" vs. "poor gen z" in her video. Last time I looked at a comment section people of all ages were shitty there.

[@mashajacaranda807]

Agreed, I think every generation has its share of rude/mean people on social media, it’s kind of the culture of online comments unfortunately

[@fuosdi64]

Generations are just glorified horoscopes. This stuff doesn't matter at all.

[@kelpikko]

@@DRT813 ya tbh a good chunk of her content recently has just been kinda perpetuating a lot of gen z vs millennials (primarily shitting on millennials) and I'm a little disappointed. And I say this as someone on the cusp of millennial and gen z.

[@hanathompson6801]

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed her bias against millennials. It's starting to get weird.

[@TanjaMattila]

That age conversation is so last season, i have never understood people who have time and effort to think something so irrelevant that how old me or someone else looks 🧐

[@sandrya6457]

I always thought this trend of saying gen z look old was born from irony and retaliation of the constant age shaming of 30+ millennials?

[@DRT813]

It was. Salem conveniently forgets how many videos there were out there about how cringe millennials are for still wearing certain styles of jeans or other fashion. Or how horrible it is to have childhood nostalgia and like a popular book series at the time (even though that was present in all generations - loads of adults still liked their Marvel comics, Star Trek, Dune, Lord of the Rings etc.). Salem goes on about the HP thing herself, which is so fake considering that people made such noise about not being ashamed of your passions and that being nerdy is fine - execpt if you're a millennial, then you mustn't have passions, because you're always cringe. Alright.

[@sandrya6457]

⁠@@DRT813I’ll be honest, the first 15 seconds were so slanderous and mean spirited that I haven’t watched the rest lool 🫠

[@sakihanajima2651]

Agreed. Also, I think gen z is really obsesses of look and appearance. And i do feel like they projecting their scared of aging to people who older than them but still look good.

[@seaurchinted]

i feel like nowhere else do you get this kind of behavior from both gen z'ers and millennials than on the internet (specifically tik tok). i cannot imagine myself walking down a street and witnessing a 30 year old and a 19 year old argue over who is more washed up.

[@sandrya6457]

@@seaurchinted ​​⁠​​⁠as a 38 year old millennial mother of 19 and 17 year old genz-ers, I totally agree that this is an internet thing. Defo first world problems of a small minority 🤣

[@Zoritos64]

I just had a lady call my work and asked to schedule a face lift procedure. She said she just turned 30. 😭

[@harsh3948]

She needs Botox not facelift

[@Veronica-zg7lg]

@@harsh3948 she doesn't need sh*t 🙄30 is young

[@seaurchinted]

@@harsh3948 you follow pickup artist and alpha male channels 💀

[@pabloescobarschanclas]

@@harsh3948 she doesn’t “need” anything, none of these procedures are essential…..

[@harsh3948]

@@pabloescobarschanclas botox prevents your face muscles from moving too much, which is the real reason for future wrinkles. A little bit won’t hurt anyone

[@AmusedGuitarPedals-pg9tk]

We are often being judged by women with multiple plastic surgeries, fillers, Botox and all different kinds that of treatments. These days not having work done or needles puncturing your face is like a crime.

[@sofiaohrberg7015]

I dont really relate to this one. Most comments and posts about ridiculous beauty measuring that I come across is not written by millenials but actually by gen z. Is this really a generational thing or just a norm in society that we want to change? I dont think pointing fingers will be a good solution anyhow. And to riducule people that turn to nostalgia for healing because it reminds them of a time when they felt safe? How is that better than shaming someone for their looks?

[@miraxterrik]

Omg this, esp.the second half. I feel so called out for liking childish things , though i never advertise it anywhere, don't even have tiktok, not wearing a tee that says "can't adult boohoo" or whatever. Why does that hurt anyone if i escape to a (childish) safe place, or if i get tired of the wonderful "adulting"? Guess what, we probably all know how to adult but sometimes we just don't want to? Get tired of it? How her jibes are better than those delusional few on tiktok being mean to some genz?

[@CyberWarezz05]

Yeah, a lot of things in the video rubbed me the wrong way. I bet she only said these things because she's a gen z herself. If she was a millenial she would defend them, but the ironic thing is that aside from online, gen z and millenials aren't so visceral as salem thinks.

[@Coquette_4444]

Millennials want to heal our inner child while Gen Z over sexualizes themselves because they look up to the kardashians and they try to rush to look older and more mature. They’ll learn eventually 🥱🥱

[@Coquette_4444]

@@CyberWarezz05she looks older than 25 and she’s offended. Point blank period

[@CyberWarezz05]

@@Coquette_4444 Imo the makeup isn't helping either. The way she's attacking millenials I'd say she is just trying to cope. I mean it's obvious that she's biased

[@emmaphilo4049]

Problem is people judge an entire generation on a couple of social media celebrities

[@Megnan.143]

I’m still in grade school and kids be going around being like “yOu lOoK 30” to 11 year olds 🦆

[@thebilliexojean]

Oh man 😢

[@Megnan.143]

@@thebilliexojean someone said I look 26 💀

[@thebilliexojean]

@@Megnan.143 HUH! People are just outta pocket for no reason. It’s a personal problem they’re taking out on others - don’t listen to them. You’ll look 26 when you’re 26! 😅 I’m 39. Aging is a rite of passage that comes when it comes 💖

[@sunset5735]

I'm 25 but i get such mixed reactions about my age... sometimes i'm tokd i look 30, and a month ago i was told 19... i guess it really depends o each person's perspective, but also the state of my skin on that specific day, how i did my makeup, how i dressed, what my energy levels were.... when you create a mean, you look juet your age, as is normal ❤

[@zizi6538]

It also depends on what your wearing

[@LoisLeonora]

Saying a whole generation are bad parents, delusional, mean spirited bullies is reductive. Every generation has a mixture of people. Millennials are not a monolith. On a side note, beauty standards have always been messed up and this is nothing new. It shouldnt be this way, like ever, but it unfortunately is.

[@ilovetwilight65]

A lot of teachers on tiktok state non stop on how badly gen alpha has been acting, not being to focus or listen, and can't even spell well. Whether you decide to be ignorant, future kids are not doing very well.

[@gadol6971]

@@ilovetwilight65 and what do millenials have to do with gen alpha kids? The oldest millenial kids are 2-3 years old, how are they also magically the 12 year old gen alpha kids who can't spell?

[@monicaprzestrzelski4677]

@@gadol6971 i dont know if you know this BUT the oldest millennials ARE old enough to have HIGH SCHOOL aged kids right now. 1980-1981 is now considered the start of the millennials which puts them at 44-43 years old

[@gadol6971]

@@monicaprzestrzelski4677 I don't know if you know this, BUT the oldest millennials are NOT old enough to have HIGH SCHOOL aged kids right now. 1980-1981 is not considered the start of the millennials - they are mid to late gen x, which puts GEN X at 44-43 years old. Hope this clears it up for you

[@Mayzmayz]

​@@gadol6971My mom is a millennial (Born 1983) I'm currently 14 and my sister is 17. Millennial's are old enough to have highschool aged kids

[@pandorakaze4038]

One thing though - I have no idea what it looked like in USA - but in my country 'act your age' means literally 'do not have any hobbies! You're way to old to have fun!'.

[@_Jaemoe]

I wish I could convey my tone better in a comments section so I hope this doesn’t come across as whiny or hostile but it’s truly disappointing that your message gets lost in some of your takes on millennials. I hate the generational wars online so much. We can all learn so much from one another but instead all of our energy is directed at attacking each another. You are one of my favorite creators but it gets hard to watch you generalize negatively about millennials while trying to uplift Gen Z. The millennials who participate in tearing down Gen Z and Gen Alpha should be ashamed but taking a dig at their parenting, personalities and so on isn’t going to help bridge the gap.

[@CoquetteCygnet]

This 100% ^^^^

[@ChelseaLeAnne]

This is so well said and accurate.

[@catiel8978]

Maybe the stereotype of gen z are warranted in her case.

[@catmomchantel]

The reality is, the people who shame others on the internet come in all ages. That's how social media is. We really need to focus more on the fact that people are much too comfortable being jerks online and not "this generation is bullying the other!". It's everybody.

[@LovelyLittleLillies]

​@@catmomchantel she could've made a thoughtful video on how premature plastic surgery is aging instead of sidetracking and bashing millennials, when let's be honest: idk how Manny millennial are even on TT, where she gets her references from. Let's not act like a lot of mean comments on TT are not from Gen Z, whatever the video or topic is as that app is primarily a gen Z app... Not to mention she not only greatly exaggerated in this video but outright lied through her teeth (Sephora kids are 10 and up, not _five_ year olds), which voids any arument she tried to make

[@veggiezz]

lol, only chronically online weirdos are really having this argument... most people of all ages don't care about niche tiktok drama

[@anonmous4468]

Exactly.

[@mallarieluvsgirls]

ok? and you’re still watching

[@Maialeen]

@mallarieluvsgirls What kind of a mindless response is that? She's telling the truth. So what if she's watching? You need to watch something to form an opinion on it. You're really hostile for someone who can't form a complicated thought.

[@moonyart]

I also think that Gen z appear older because they do more procedures like lip fillers, botox and eyelash extensions from a very young age and we tend to associate this look to older women trying to look younger. Millennials didn't grow up with these procedures being so common and affordable so a lot of them didn't get into the habit of doing them. This is not to shame who does them or say they look bad I think its just a general perception like when you see someone young dressed in an antique style and they look older because we associate this style to older folks.

[@chewy9936]

These procedures have existed for yrs even in millenial era

[@SandorSoptei]

@@chewy9936 except we didnt use them.................. at 19

[@namenotfound6881]

I’m a 20 something that dresses “older”. It’s kind of why I’ve always been perceived as older because of my personal style preferences. I wonder if it’ll carry on into my 30s, the saga begins

[@floptimus]

That's what I'm saying. Millennial makeup wasn't as complex and aggressively contouring, it was more about color trends and it was less about reshaping things like bigger lips and brows.

[@lockheart619]

What people see on social media does not always translate irl. Not every teenager looks like what you see on TikTok.

[@JamFlava1]

It’s funny how Gen Z making fun of millennials etc but still we don’t care but when millennials making fun out of Gen Z because they look so old and they feel attacked suddenly….Hypocrisy at best.

[@vivi-ws9yl]

Man I'm sorry to tell you this but that's complete bs. Both sides have been attacking eachother and both sides were mad about it. It really doesn't matter who did it first or who's doing more maybe we can both just stfu and not hate on eachother

[@mwon1673]

respectfully millennials started it. Gen z started defending themselves, then all this became a thing.

[@JamFlava1]

@@mwon1673 No….It’s the opposite. You gen Z need to take some responsibility for your actions and stop blaming the millennials. Gen Z started this not millennials. Gen Z: toxic generation.

[@wolf.eye._-]

​@@mwon1673 I don't care who started it if both you guys don't stop I will turn this car around Right Now

[@sweetlatina213]

I think this is the first video where I don’t completely agree with you. You did make some good points but I don’t believe it’s an entire generation’s fault that people are trying follow certain beauty standards. Some people are just mean for no reason regardless of age. I think we will all be happier if we accept that aging happens and that’s okay. We’re not going to look like people that can afford filler and plastic surgery.

[@ll2323]

Same, very biased and it contributes to the generation wars.

[@toot188]

Recently, I’ve started to notice her opinion leaning more and more negatively towards millennials, so it isn’t surprising.

[@hennigadient4265]

SAME making a generation fight out of it is just the wrong way

[@hennigadient4265]

@@toot188 Yeah that video feels hate full with 0 need for it. Some tick took doesn't represent a howl generation.

[@cloudstrife4534]

Also, the dig at millennials being bad parents of iPad kids was phrased as a generalization of millennials as a whole. When that’s obviously not the majority of millennial parents. iPad kids, and kids who have near unregulated access to the internet from an early age in general, are new issues that millennial parents have to deal with whereas parents from older generations didn’t have to(as much, depending on the person). And some of those parents don’t do a good job. But bad parents have existed in every generation. And there are plenty of good millennial parents. This video is unnecessarily accusatory of millennials for broader societal issues that predate them. The exact beauty trends may be current, but the way society enforces them isn’t millennial’s fault. Just because some people are awful and nasty on social media doesn’t mean they represent the entirety of their generation. This video didn’t do a very good job avoiding painting all millennials with the same brush. Which is disappointing, considering Salem usually has more nuance.

[@L_Pants]

I highly disagree that the “majority” of millennials are shaming Gen Z’s looks. The ones you’re assimilating an entire generation to are the loud minority. Certainly not the majority. There are loud miserable people of all ages. All of this “Gen Z looks old” started years ago, when millennials started pointing out that Gen Z kids seemed to skip the awkward tween stage. They seemed to go from being little kids to young adults with no in between. It was a stark difference from the experience of most millennials. The sentiment behind this talking point on behalf of millennials was 1.) clowning on our own awkward tween stage and 2.), most importantly, being sad that Gen Z was raised with the internet, influencers, and facetune, and were obviously pressured by high/fake beauty standards, thanks to capitalism, since they were kids. It was never something millennials took glee in. Any other millennial I’ve had these discussions with feel sorry that Gen Z has been unfairly pressured and criticized since they were kids. I can’t imagine growing up with those standards being shoved down your throat 24/7. All we had to make us feel bad about ourselves were models in magazines and eventually the Kardashians. If it was injected into our brains at every moment by the device we’re connected to 24/7 since we were kids, well I just can’t imagine. Yall have it a lottt harder in that regard. Now this isn’t to give a pass to the millennials talking 💩 about an entire generation and saying they look old. That’s disgusting and they are clearly miserable people. But please know that the actual majority of millennials do not share that sentiment whatsoever.

[@BlueGreenOnna]

Thank youuuuuu. You've said everything I had on my mind

[@MarzDubz]

Beautiful response. I’m getting really sick of these Gen Z content creators continuously bashing on my generation when they have had a leg up in soooo many ways - in fact Millennials have paved the way for some of the cultural shifts we’ve had these past few years so to constantly see this weird hate coming from Gen Z is pretty bizarre considering a lot of the artists this generation idolizes are in fact Millennials.

[@nnnn-sc2im]

@@MarzDubzoml millennials are turning into genx and boomers💀 you’re mad that people are generalizing millennials when you’re doing the same thing to genz😭also get over yourself every generation takes inspiration from the previous generation including millennials

[@mmgs1148]

Im one of the oldest gen z and definetely had the akward pre-teen stage, but I see teens now dressed like adults, maybe in my country it was just delayed (just like the internet connection, in 2010 still internet access was still not common where I live, i got my first phone with WiFi connection in 2015 i believe)

[@trlpop7911]

Actually what's happened is gen z was bullying millennials and now, just as bullys do, are getting their feelings hurt that we pointed out something about them. I thought the girl in the vid was a millennial , till the 8 second mark. Gen z was growing up to be bullys, millennials are too tough for that. We are so laid back and gen z is high tension/drama so they thought we were easy pickings because we were nice. Believe it or not a lot of perception online starts shaping real life. Anyways, gen z is now crying because they found out how vicious millennials can be. So gen z is crying "why can't we all just get along" to millennials lmao. Heck being a millennial, we never even referred to ourselves as millennial. We didn't care about age and the segment of generations. it's gen z who based their whole personality on being "gen z" lmao. And call themselves laid back when they definitely not especially in comparison to millennials. Again they just mistook our laid back nature for weakness and now are finding out that's not it and that millennials know how to roast people lmao

[@christmastiger]

To me it seems younger generations have access to better skincare, make-up, hair products, etc. and tutorials on how exactly to achieve celebrity-level looks so it makes teens look older. Plus the current trend right now with cat-eye liquid liner with fake lashes and tons of highlight and contour (no shade Salem) is more adult style even if it does look glam--it's just weird seeing it on a younger person, and definitely borne out of looking good on photos/videos for social media. Maybe this is controversial, but I think Salem (and many other media essayists both mainstream and on social media) grab on to and show the same five viral videos as though it's a pervasive thing throughout the globe when it's not really. I've watched several other youtubers talk about this and everyone shows the same videos, so I don't know how much it's even a real thing or just a catchy topic to discuss. I appreciate that she throws in a positive message about how beauty standards are affecting women in particular, but I feel like Salem used to have more nuanced takes and didn't just do the same thing to millennials that she hates seeing being done to Gen Z ("I'm quirky, smol bean, etc" like girl you are becoming the thing that you hate) and it just feeds the generational in-fighting. She can make the commentary without getting defensive, that's all I'm saying.

[@wolf.eye._-]

Truth

[@lisaspencer1057]

The people I know who think SOME young folks look way older than they are is because of all the cosmetic procedures they poison their faces with. We are not mocking, It’s concerning. People are accusing people of not accepting people or their shaming them when they’re not the ones altering their looks with fillers, Botox, surgery when they looked beautiful before they aged themselves cosmetic procedures. We’re not delusional, we have eyes. Some 25 year olds look like babies and fewer who’ve altered their looks look like muddke age soccer moms. Or they belong on a reality housewife show.

[@jennaspillers1906]

@@lisaspencer1057 i was hoping someone else mentioned this. agree 100%

[@NiniNonsense]

I really don't get when people say its just millennials raising iPad kids, as a middle school teacher most of the parents I meet are older, like parents who had kids in their late thirties and now feel "too old" to actually parent. Most of the younger parents I meet are actually pretty involved or are immigrants who have other struggles to deal with. I think we forget how many older people are having kids. My mom had my brother lil brother 16 years after me at the age of 40.

[@ClementineDaydream]

Thank you!! The generalizations are so exhausting. A lot of parents right now are younger X-ers, like my brother, who has 2 under age 5.

[@anareginacoronado1147]

So what if they are, raising children is super difficult (I’m not a mom but an aunt) and parenting shaming is the meanest thing you can do

[@switchbladestrawberry4777]

Millenials are in their 30s and 40s though?

[@msdouglas12100]

​@@switchbladestrawberry4777according to pew research the age range of the millennials is 27-42

[@ClementineDaydream]

@@switchbladestrawberry4777 millennials are JUST hitting their 40s. The exact years are roughly 81-96, so that would be ages 28-42. Most millennials are having babies now. Gen X is greatly the parents of older kids in school.

[@axionq]

And I love the title of this video. “Brainwashed” by beauty standards… yet you have modeled your new face after those same beauty standards. That’s rich.

[@katiegoh9209]

I haven't really noticed any of my millenial peers doing this. I guess we've talked about how younger people are looking more mature then we did in our teens and early 20s, but never to say they look bad. We just didn't grow up with as many beauty tutorials so our awkward phase lasted wayyyy longer. I guess this is one of those niche tiktok trends (not real life; shouldn't represent all millenials as cruel)

[@marylandj3228]

Bit millineals out in the world are cool af

[@teahthedog]

Social media has definitely made the awkward tween/teen phase seem nonexistent, which kinda forced current tweens/teens to just skip it if that makes sense? I was a tween during the pandemic and I had somewhat of an awkward phase, except I didn't have to deal with how cruel 7th graders are because I was doing online school lol.

[@Buckeyelove]

Yeah all the gen z I work with do NOTHING but rag on millennials and continuously tell us we’re at deaths door. And never leave my skinny jeans alone 😂

[@floptimus]

Yeah every generation after us will look "different" and if you go out and touch grass, vast majority of girls out in the world still look their age and it's more of a social media beef.

[@curiousfeller6969]

aging is so beautiful like??? for an example, smile lines, SO PRETTY?? good lord

[@ll2323]

Man Michelle Pfeiffer aged so beautifully.

[@TwistedLullabies]

You say that until they start appearing on you

[@katelijnesommen]

I actually agree, I was dating the most beautiful 39-year-old woman recently and the crow's feet around her eyes were actively so attractive. It made me look differently at my own fine lines.

[@curiousfeller6969]

@@TwistedLullabies girl i have smile lines and i loooovvveeee them lol

[@arin6068]

@@TwistedLullabies just say you don't like yourself instead of trying to make someone else feel bad for having laugh lines

[@freyagrauwels5992]

I have to say, you are really mean. There is nothing impartial about this. I'm a Zillenial myself, so right in between the two generations, and I must say that Gen-Z tends to be a lot more shamey than they think (ex. the hate on skinny jeasn, hating on how "old" millenials look). Yourself included

[@redmcsushi2255]

I don’t see her being mean here. It’s kinda true. But the real problem is the “anti-aging” trends and it just existing everywhere we go and see online. It sucks.

[@chewy9936]

You don't know what mean is if you found this mean

[@Sara-rl7qp]

Salem doing the exact same thing she is complaining about in her video. This is just the state of the world, all we see are other people’s flaws while ignoring our own. Thats the biggest problem of this time, we are too busy judging others..

[@hanathompson6801]

💯

[@dashzag]

Yea, I usually like her videos, but this wasn't it. She's doing the very thing she's condemning - superficial judgment and generalized blame.

[@seashellgarden2227]

yeah, especially with that "millennials failed as parents" and overall iPad baby rant; was that necessary? 😂 idk I was surpised

[@Sjood-qs8ol]

@@seashellgarden2227why are yall mad?? I’m not understanding. Millennials by far ARE the ones raising unruly iPad children.

[@anareginacoronado1147]

@@seashellgarden2227 this was specially mean. Imaging needing to say this just because someone on tik tik said your generation looks old. 😬

[@krushkannon]

i think it's a weird paradox of "looking younger" and what that looks like bc i associate youth with a full face, chubby cheeks, acne, braces, unkempt hair from playing, bright colors, etc. but when ppl think about looking younger, they think of botox, fillers, certain style choices, makeup, clear skin, aka all things i associate with being an adult. it's so weird. i also found my first silver hair at 22 last year, and today i found my first white hair at 23. who honestly cares atp

[@wolf.eye._-]

I got my first one around 25 and had a few at 27. One time this older lady pointed them out Like "OH you Already have gray in your hair??" 😂

[@thebilliexojean]

Millennial fan here! I just wanna look and feel my best. I’m not as worried about how old I look but choose to be more focused on how taking care of myself makes me feel. I’m an 80s baby, a 90s kid, and a 2000s teen ☺️ It’s a blessing to age 💜

[@konodanshi]

Ngl I usually like your vids, but that intro was so mean-spirited, and this is dipping too much into actual ASMR territory for me, my misophonic @ss sadly is having a hard time getting through the entire vid. But I do feel like you're kind of missing the point on purpose here..? The generalizations about millennials, ignoring how many gen-z are glorifying plastic surgery like no one before us, etc. Not great.

[@hollypop368]

I’ve been noticing a shift in the content for a while, but this really drove it home. Sure there are some millennials who cannot accept that they are aging, but this whole video was just using a whole generation as a punching bag again. This has been an increasing trend over the past 5-6 months. I used to love Salem, but her content over the past several months has felt very mean girl.

[@wrxtersblxck]

Okay I thought I was going crazy bcuz I noticed the same thing. Before, her content was on different controversies and social issues, but lately it just feels like she’s has had a vendetta against certain groups and using her vids to justify her views. Don’t get me wrong, her views are her views and that’s fine. To me, it’s no longer fine when she just uses the millennial demographic as a punching bag with shallow level media instead of looking further into the issue and seeing if there even is one. It’s kinda icky.

[@ll2323]

When u get older thing change in ur perception. When u watch ur family dynamic change through repeated death of ur elders, u start to understand why it’s important to accept the roles that become vacant. U have to know fill that role and that’s okay. It means ur important to many.

[@MissRobynTV]

Thank you! Thought I was going crazy it’s just coming off as mean. It wouldn’t be so bad if she at least added in what else could be causing something. Like for parenting yes some millennial parents suck but there are a lot more factors that at not even mentioned.

[@twigsno]

@@MissRobynTV her whole parenting video gave me the ick because there were soooo so so many classist comments and implications she made that i don't think she even realized were, in fact, straight up classist. she's really lost the plot recently. this is the point where i have to unsub.

[@g20o0_6]

@@twigsno you're under every comment just unsubscribe and move on 🙄

[@briannajade2710]

I think Salem is right about stylistic choice dating Gen Z but I think it goes beyond clothing. I think the Gen Z influencers that supposedly look "older" is the use of plastic surgery/botox/filler/procedures done that previously was only seen on people who were 35+. So it just reads as older? I definitely cold-called the featured 22 year old blonde lady as older because to me she looks like a Real Housewife of BlankCity and I associate those women as being like early-40s. The cosmetic procedure might physically get rid of the "signs of aging" but the presence of the procedure dates the face by association with an age group. And it tracks that Millennials would fall for this association too but we were the first to be judgy about over-procedured older women so we're just keeping the morality/beauty complex trucking.

[@wrxtersblxck]

Both sides are just trying to live their lives. I feel like this vid was crafted on shallow level social media surfing, and that’s not cool when you’re making a vid that pushes a narrative on how millennials are out here bullying gen z for aging and can’t let go of their own sense of youth. Using millennials as a proverbial punching bag for the past few vids, collective not consecutive, is icky.

[@CoquetteCygnet]

Yeah, you’re absolutely valid for that. This video doesn’t really delve into the deeper issues behind what appears to be a viral online topic, and it leans towards depicting millenials as mostly shallow, self infantilizing people who are trying to recapture their youth. It just comes off as biased instead of a nuanced take. And this is coming from a member of Gen Z lol

[@wtheckJackie]

Scapegoating millennials is exactly what boomers been doing for years. The irony.

[@luvfromkate]

Aging is such a beautiful thing. It should be appreciated, it shows humans living their lives and enjoying every minute of it.

[@wolf.eye._-]

This stupid ass battle of the generations needs to stop, this really isn't helping. Not all millenials are like this. I'm about to be 37 in a few days and I don't shame younger people about their looks. Let's try to be more about the solution here not perpetrate the problem by generalizing.

[@Anonymoustheuser]

I agree, a 21 genz.

[@caylesx]

Vsauce did a pretty good video about people from the past looking older. It's the same principle here. Style plays the biggest part, for sure.

[@ll2323]

It has NOTHING to do with styles. They had entire families jobs and mortgages right out of high school. We did not have the privilege of experiencing that. Which does age u significantly.

[@ll2323]

@@CoquetteCygnet 1920, most people were married with kids.

[@silent-hills]

⁠@@ll2323sorry, i’m a little confused what you mean here - are you saying that *not* experiencing having a family/job/“typical” adult things actually *ages* people? if that’s what you’re saying, then how so? i don’t really see the correlation there

[@momok8879]

Young people DO look older now, beauty trends have been moving towards adultification of teen girls. Also i hate the asmr.

[@JoseHernandez-gy7qu]

That’s what she said…

[@twigsno]

@@JoseHernandez-gy7qu barely, and after making sure to blame a whole generation for another generation's problems. she's practically encouraging the flame war between millennials and gen z despite acting like she's against it lmfao.

[@ll2323]

@@JoseHernandez-gy7qu she’s trying to blame millennials for gen z beauty trends when they decided that for themselves. Millennials always knew premature beauty procedures would age u with the 80s beauty trends. And somehow gen z found it and went with it anyways. Despite millennials telling them NOT to do it.

[@stevenellison3128]

Some Gen Z looks "old" because all those 90s fashions are back, and "old lady" outfits. And milennials look "old" because people forget what aging actually looks like. People expect a 35 year old to be covered in wrinkles and that's juat not the case.

[@ladylarry75]

As a millennial, i grew up watching so many tv shows where high schoolers were played by people in their late 20's to mid 30's. so i feel like it influenced how badly i cannot guess peoples ages.

[@Browndrea]

I get the intent behind the content but as a millennial who really likes your takes, I'm starting to feel so alienated from your content because there's so much millennial hate/blame lately, and I think I'm not the only one who feels this way. The generation wars aren't helping anyone.

[@valrose6083]

This! I'm unsubscribing. She used to have such quality content, but now it's just hate, generalizations and negativity. Done with it.

[@ohitsclemenTIME]

@pollo8150 ya know.. sometimes people get offended when the other person is just being mean. This is one of those times. Not everything is introspective

[@cyclesofstrength]

I'm a millennial but I disagree. I think Salem has really level-headed takes. She also doesn't pick on millennials that much, and honestly I think she picks on gen z the most. I think it's easy to feel so connected to the experience of others in your generational group because we share a lot of the same struggles, have similar relationships to technology, and have been failed by the economy in similar ways, that sometimes we take generalizations as personal slights. My husband is gen Z, and my younger brother is a cusp, so I think that's helped me see both sides and get more perspective. I definitely have to check myself sometimes. I have definitely been guilty with obsessing over my age, and I blame social media. I've tried to detox a lot from it in recent times, and it's helping me get a clearer head. I think we can have generational solidarity, while also realizing that generational divides are fabricated by anthropologists.

[@alexaliss8233]

@@cyclesofstrength As a cusper who does normally really like Salem's content, I definitely do notice a difference with how she approaches each age group though. When gen Z does something like invent a new beauty standard to obsess over like canthal tilt or whatever, it's "hey guys, this really isn't necessary, I promise no one is obsessing over your eye tilt but you, and you're beautiful no matter which way your eyes tilt." But when millennials are obsessed with looking young it's "because you guys are always infantilizing yourselves and never act your age cause you're just too quirky and think adulting is hard". Like, where is the empathy that she always used to try to stress? Idk the vibes just seem a bit off.

[@Ellaliluleloka]

Agreed. Considering unsubscribing.

[@CamieFarmer13]

I like Salem and her channel a lot but her take on Millennials is a pass for me and honestly comes across really bias. I’m definitely not worried about what these gen Z peeps are out here doing, much less what they look like. I’m just trying to be able to afford living on my own.

[@wolf.eye._-]

Fr

[@h4msterluvr22]

Agreed

[@paulatamaramohamad5794]

Girl you are knocking me out with this ASRM voice. As a millennial I think Gen z looks more mature, not older. Because when I was in my early 20s I couldn't do my makeup, had terrible fashion sense. So you look to good to be almost a teenager IMO. Like some pictures of me at that age, I looked young and BAD. Girl, blend your eyeshadow, please

[@aRIE_vcr]

You don't have to watch the video how bout you go outside touch grass and get some therapy because the hatred is too much rn

[@Thebeezzkneezz.]

​@aRIE_vcr what? I think you need to go read a book to gain comprehension, where is the hatred? They are agreeing with salem

[@jennywhiskey9327]

More MATURE seems accurate. And it’s not a dig by any means. When I was in my 20’s I didn’t have KZbin makeup tutorials, and hair tutorials etc. so our makeup skills were um…less than stellar to put it nicely. So seeing these 20 somethings all done up with perfect makeup signals in MY MIND that they are older than they are. Not that they “look old” but their aesthetic in general looks more mature, seasoned, and put together than people in their 20’s when I was their age.

[@chelseaxoxo784]

​@@aRIE_vcr ??? Read to understand

[@aRIE_vcr]

@@Thebeezzkneezz. 💀💀I have really bad vision I can only see from my left eye cause my right eye is going legally blind I was reading without my contacts

[@winterprison1493]

Wow, I actually needed to hear this today. I would never dream of body shaming and Kylie looked amazing. But being 33 and loosing close to 100 pounds for my health, I was disappointed I didn’t seem to look like “other people my age.” Because I noticed loose skin. Thanks for the reminder that social media is fabricated and that my loose skin is proof how far I’ve come from my 20’s. Also, deleting tik tok was the best thing I ever did to myself, it’s brutal there 😢

[@Original13Mars]

I never see millennials dumping on gen z. I always see gen z making fun of millennials and calling them cringe for enjoying things. algorithms are weird.

[@wolf.eye._-]

They're precise. It helps aid the great divisional wars.

[@kairabyrd2790]

@@wolf.eye._-definitely. My fyp is filled with millennials trashing gen z in every aspect

[@littlemisslizilon]

pitting generations against each other is ridiculous. I’m 27, I look 27, and I would be offended if I was told otherwise by a gen z OR a millennial.

[@palasiksivain]

and then there's neurodivergent people like myself who get told that we "don't look our age" bc of clothing styles or whatever. you literally cannot win here: i've been told i look like a 15-year-old in a derogatory manner (i'm 24) bc of how i dress, and also shamed for not having perfectly clear skin like someone in their 20s should (i've had cystic acne since 5 yrs old) 😭

[@cewlhwip]

i remember just a few years ago people on the internet were saying that gen z looks younger than they actually are, now suddenly everyone is saying the opposite

[@Payasiita562]

Yes I remember this they need to pick a side 🤣

[@Leminisca]

12:19 I'm sorry to tell you but it's not being brainwashed. This lady does look 5-7 years older, like she's in her late 30s. But it shouldn't be a problem if she's actually healthy and feels ok.

[@Varion422]

Why is it hard for salem to admit that some people do look older than their age. It's not a brainwashed take to say she looks older than her age. I think she looks early 40s. There is nothing wrong with looking younger or older than your age people age different.

[@hsmfreak617]

Salem, I love your videos and your opinion on things. As a millennial I think most millennials are obsessed with being younger because a lot of our childhood was stolen from us, we were forced to grow up fast because of society and partly because of 9/11. I see it now with kids of today they were forced to grow up because of the pandemic, it’s trauma. But I don’t agree with millennials criticizing how gen z looks. Every age group as people who look their age and people who don’t, doesn’t mean it’s right to criticize a whole generation. Millennials should know better but we were raised but our overbaring narcissistic gen X parents

[@earthfa333]

off topic but girl you are GLOWING, I love this makeup style on you!!!

[@thepeculiarcat]

There's a movie called The Guardian (2006), which is about Coast Guard rescue swimmers, but one of the characters is a bar owner. At one point, she's talking to one of the older swimmers and says " I mean if my muscles ache, it's because I've used 'em. It's hard for me to walk up them steps now, 'cuz I walked up 'em every night to lay next to a man who loved me. I got a few wrinkles here and there, but I've layed under thousands of skies with sunny days. I look and feel this way, well cuz I drank and I smoked. I lived and I loved, danced, sang, sweat, and screwed my way through a pretty damn good life if you ask me. Getting old ain't bad Ben. Getting old, that's earned." That struck me and has been my philosophy on aging since then.

[@wolf.eye._-]

❤

[@Nessa1.995]

I agree with you when you say that social media has influenced the way that we assume someone is "young" and "old"; but I also disagree with this idea... If I compare Kylie Jenner to the girls I see at work, then yes, Kylie Jenner looks way older than them, maybe because of the fillers or the make-up she used. I do agree that social media disturbed our conception of "age" and "aging" somehow but it's not just that. Young elementary school girls going to Sephora to buy skincare products and makeup and then looking like high school girls / girls in their 20s is actually happening. I work in a highschool and trust me, the amount of teenagers who look older than most of my coworkers who are in their thirties is insane. And it's very specific to the western world, because, as we all know, in Asia for instance, people tend to avoid looking "older". Asians still use a lot of fillers and undergo cosmetic procedures, but the results are drastically different.

[@ayalouhmini4521]

As someone who's living in Europe I can say that gen z here does look younger. I guess it's only in the US because people there seems like too obsessed over looking good, but idk

[@xkun0ichi]

I also feel like a part of our obsession with youth and infantilizing ourselves as millenials is our inability to cope with us being the adults now 😂 there's like a disconnect between our actual age and mental age. Though, a lot of generations prob felt this way or will feel this way. We millenials have def been loud about this.

[@dragoncatoverload]

Okay so quick questions have you ever talked to a millennial that isn’t internet poisoned? Gen z is way worse about beauty standards simply because a lot of millennials don’t have time to be on the internet. I can’t tell you how many gen z I bump into on Twitter (I’m into geek stuff, so it happens) who when I tell them I’m 30 immediately make jokes about it. Additionally gen Z has access to certain trends that we millennials didn’t. A lot of millennials were trying to look older we just didn’t know how to properly achieve that look. We didn’t have internet tutorials instructing us step by step on how to and we didn’t have online shopping access. We were stuck with what you could get at the local mall. Also boy bands and Justin Bieber, music made for teen girls was considered super cringe back then. Same goes for high school musical although that one is more gender neutral. If anything it was worse because the internet was the Wild West back then. You know that hating on Twilight Trend, yeah that too. I’m not saying millennials are blameless. There are plenty of cringe bullying millennials on TikTok and that’s pathetic because we all of gens should know how much it sucks to be shat on by the older gen. But a lot of these trends are things that have been around forever the internet has just enabled them more readily,

[@pink_electra]

Your next video should be about how GenZ is perpetually unfriendly. Since we're casting wide nets on generations now...

[@nwlwj7644]

She already did

[@marylandj3228]

Gen z are teen and young adults have kids and 20 year olds ever been friendly?

[@user-um8zt2ke8o]

So tired of approaching a register at a shop to a blank face that doesn't speak 😒 might as well let me ring myself up and make my own food if you're just gonna stand there like you're blind and mute. Can I get a hello? Welcome in? Bueller? Bueller??

[@pink_electra]

@@user-um8zt2ke8o I know what you mean. I always appreciate a friendly human interaction, but I guess I shouldn't expect it because millennials bad. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@SugarbirdyOvO]

I think this video would be improved if her wording was changed from 'most millennials' to 'most millienials on tiktok'. TikTok is an echo chamber where toxicity inbreeds and is tossed around like rice at a wedding, and I don't think anyone but the folks who use it would argue with that. Also @@user-um8zt2ke8o If you've ever worked at retail [which has long grueling hours, entitled asshole customers, minimum wage, and discrimination/harassment from coworkers if you're really unlucky] you wouldn't demand someone to look gleeful at the prospect of serving you. They're just there to pay the bills. They're not happy to be there, and honestly, I don't blame them for it. It's hard to smile when you know the pennies you're being paid aren't enough to fill your stomach.