General Charles Gordon (Part 1 - Chinese Gordon)

[@leonidaslantz5249]

You are one hell of a good historian and story teller!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Hi Leonidas, thank you very much for the compliment. I am very touched.

[@grahamhilldrup1256]

I agree with Leonidas. I’m really enjoying these KZbin clips and learning an awful lot at the same time. Thank you.

[@PineMartinAmerican]

Me too.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Gordon of Khartoum was one of the first historical figures I learned about as a boy and his story along with that of the Anglo Zulu War inspired in me a great love of history to this day. I do find it rather amusing that he essentially did go rogue the moment he arrived in Khartoum and can only imagine the wincing and forehead slapping Gladstone did as soon as he heard.

[@TheHistoryChap]

I love the picture you have painted about Gladstone slapping his head. Zulu Wars were one of the subjects that got me into history too. Have you seen my video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWWUoX6Nr7Csm7c

[@harryshriver6223]

Gordon is one of the most talented yet undisciplined actors in English history. He can be seen as a Dickensian actor who attempted to intervene in the lives of the downtrodden. He lived life by his terms, I really enjoyed the content of this video, kudos!

[@TheHistoryChap]

I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your support.

[@unc9106]

Very interesting breakdown. Watching from North Carolina. Good work chap

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mrspare4460]

Thank you for making this illuminating two part video on Gordon. I'm starting to write a large orchestral piece of music based on Gordon in Khartoum and I'm devouring all the information I can; your videos being some of the best I've found. Your video on the Battle of Omdurman was also fantastic, keep up the great work.

[@TheHistoryChap]

I'm glad that you enjoyed them. Thanks for watching and also for your kind words.

[@AnthonyEvelyn]

Gordon reminds me of Orde Wingate, both fearless God fearing soldiers in Christ. May God be merciful to them.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Orde Wingate was the cousin of Reginald Wingate, who finally defeated the Khalifa.

[@AnthonyEvelyn]

@@TheHistoryChap Now will you look at that. I didn't know this. Thanks very much for sharing this information.

[@guywillson1549]

Modern media superciliously poo-poo British history, especially where Christians feature. In fact, by God's grace Britain was a really good influence in the world but the British change of faith in God to faith in Darwin changed all that into the Britain of today. We may have changed, but God hasn't.

[@wfcoaker1398]

It is widely acknowledgrd that Gordon had a death wish. The question is why. He was tortured by something, that much is obvious. He was an alcoholic, was mercurial and tempestuous in his personality, and is felt by several biographers to have had significant self hatred. One belief is that he was gay, and his guilt and shame drove him to try to atone for his "sin" by seeking a glorious, manly death in battle. And "soldiers of Christ" don't kill people. Have you never heard the hymn Lead On, O King Eternal? You know, the lines that say "For not with sword's loud clashing and roll of stirring drums, But deeds of love and mercy the Heavenly Kingdom comes".

[@guywillson1549]

@@wfcoaker1398 a desire for martyrdom for the Lord was common among many early church members. Gordon was certainly eccentric but he seriously loved the Lord like Oliver Cromwell during the English Civil War. Too many bullet points in his life indicate his complete love for God. He started an orphanage for boys in Gravesend but that does not make him queer; he fought the Chinese rebels but instead of following the kill-all policy of Chinese combatants he showed them mercy and fed them and offered them a place in the later EVA; he highlighted the Garden Tomb on Mt Moriah in Jerusalem saying "this was where my Lord was crucified and buried" Many historians have written about Gordon but their rationale about his life is more a reflection about their own worldview than an accurate reflection of historical fact. As a Christian, I can see a clear Christian pattern in Gordon's life which would be hidden from non-Christians. One day we will know even as we are known.

[@J1M99]

As an ex pupil of Gordon's school the painting Gordon's last stand used to be in the school library with his revolver, fez and Mardi Speers also many other artifacts

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing that story

[@c-secofficer123]

I can’t get enough of this channel

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very kind of you. Thanks.

[@jayfelsberg1931]

According to most historians, the name Ever Victorious Army was first used under the command of its founder, the American adventurer Frederick Townsend Ward. Ward was killed in battle in September 1862. Caleb Carr's "Devil Soldier: The Story of Frederick Townsend Ward," is the best modern work on Ward.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for posting.

[@automatic6216]

I still wish they stuck with this idea for the Tom Cruise movie that became The Last Samurai. Manny Pacquiao was still in his prime at the time and would have been epic as Manilaman Vicente Macanaya, Frederick Townsend Ward's bodyguard and friend.

[@TS-vr4xq]

I've just found your channel and are simply amazed by the way you tell the stories of the battles , reasons for the battles and challenges , the men involved on both sides and how you get right into the story with such a way that excites even you . I have been a fan of history all my life and yes I have watched Khartoum , Zulu , Zulu Dawn , and more war movies than I can remember . I am a total fan now . Thank you for all the work you've done so far . From Canada

[@TheHistoryChap]

Hello Canada, Thank you for your kind words. Please make sure to subscribe to my channel so you don’t miss future videos. Chris

[@SNP-1999]

@ T S Well said! Actually, your comment could have been written by me, word for word ! I too have just recently found this excellent channel and have been binge watching the brilliantly researched and presented videos ever since. Best greetings to Canada from an expat Englishman living in Hamburg, Germany. 🤗🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@OttersAreAwesome]

This is one of the best history channels I have come across. You have so much passion for your subject! Thank you sincerely for this very informative and engaging lecture. Subscribed!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for subscribing. I appreciate your support. What would you like me to talk about in the future?

[@rjglennon2219]

Ive always been into military history but only recently come across your channel. I think its brilliant. Thank you for posting

[@lazyhazeldaisy9596]

My all time hero is General Gordon, I have read many books on him but the best ones are his journals I agree he was very much a religious man but he didn't let it get between his soldier decisions only perhaps in his conscience, he hated being called Pasha and would threaten any one with being shot if they called him that as the Pasha's were corrupt and untrustworthy as he saw it. Thank you for this a good introduction to him.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.

[@MichaelDowd-kz6wz]

Excellent! Instructional and entertaining as well! Gordon has always fascinated me after reading The White Nile by Alan Moorhead. Kudos for your presentation

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@seanobrogain2141]

love your pocket histories (mean this in the positive), id love to see something on the other British disaster of Maiwand and the other debacles surrounding this.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Maiwand is on my list.

[@seanobrogain2141]

Thank you been binge watching your channel, great stuff, lve the fact you show the make of regiments and the soldiers origins, important to show the make up of the regiments. Was Dalton of Rourke's drift not from Dublin? Anyway amazing work.

[@macbatz6734]

Maiwand is course when Dr. Watson was wounded....

[@rockweiler777]

Right on, sir. This is a wondrous narrative, and impeccably told.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@TheMartymar1976]

I love this channel! Very thoughtful commentary, very insightful and historical. I'm starting to delve into your country's rich history! Keep it up!

[@TheHistoryChap]

There is so much history. It would be nice to tell a few more stories about what actually happened in Britain rather than foreign excursions.

[@daryllamonaco3102]

You are very good sir, well spoken and explain history very concisely.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Hi Daryl, Thank you for your kind words. Please make sure to subscribe to my channel so you don’t miss future videos. kzbin.info Chris

[@kaylemoine1571]

Such a story teller! Thank you. I have heard the other side. It's good to hear the other side. There is always another side.

[@TheHistoryChap]

My pleasure

[@AhmedAhmed-qh3xb]

Thanks I am from Sudan from Khartoum Really Charles Gordon was Hero

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for your kind words. Please make sure to subscribe to my channel so you don’t miss future videos. By the way, I have worked in Khartoum...loved the city and the people.

[@richardravenclaw318]

still missing your colonial overlords mr ahmed?

[@corneliussulla9963]

@@richardravenclaw318 Why are you Brits always such cants? It seems like the nicer someone is towards you folks, the more cantish you become.

[@zacheryhernandez7298]

Jesus man there's almost to much content in this half hour video, and this is only part 1! good stuff. Cheers from Oregon 🍻

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

I can understand how Gordon would think and act. I do similar. I have always done my own thing regardless of anyone else and made my own plans. With a steely drive I push forward and go all the way....

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your watching my video & your comment.

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

The statue you show at 10:35 used to stand in Khartoum and is shown at the end of the Charlton Heston film. However when Sudan gained independence it was moved to the Royal Engineers depot at Brompton Barracks in Kent. When I was there we were told that a previous RE Young Officers’ course had filled it with water and then drilled a hole between its back legs. Apparently it pissed for weeks :) Apparently it was then filled with cement to prevent a recurrence…

[@TheHistoryChap]

Ha ha, what a prank to pull!

[@kennethgriffin509]

A piss weak prank,,,Engineer's barracks hardly a deserving place for it/him,,,shoild have been near Nelson somewhere ....

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

@@kennethgriffin509 it was set firm in Khartoum to make a point to the Sudanese I think. By the time it came to be moved he’d faded from public consciousness and it was probably only the Sappers who remembered him…until the film came out perhaps.

[@macbatz6734]

There are in fact two statues of Gordon on his camel (plus the one of him standing, on the embankment). One is at Chatham , Kent; the other at Gordon's School in Woking.

[@barnabywild2601]

Love you knowledge and enthusiasm, makes for a thrilling tale and puts you in the soldiers shoes. Well Done Sir! Many Thanks.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for your kind words. Please make sure to subscribe to my channel so you don’t miss future videos.

[@thomasjamison2050]

Thomas Huxley, close friend and great admirer of Charles Darwin, noted that the two most interesting men of his age were Charles Darwin and Charles Gordon.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to share.

[@kaoskronostyche9939]

Very good. Great story and storytelling. I watched your series on the Sepoy Rebellion recently all in one go and now the Algorithm is sending me nothing but History Chap. Oh well. Anyway, your presentations are very good. Cheers and thank you.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for watching

[@WesWinsley]

Thank you for creating this. I've just found out I'm related to Gorden and so I'm trying to find out more about him (I didn't know anything about him before). I want to get a view of the whole person, not just the positives but also the negatives. An unbiased all-around understanding of his character and life and actions and consequences. I'm really interested in looking further. Reading the comments here have been enlightening too. Thank you 😊

[@the5thmusketeer215]

BRILLIANT STUFF, CHRIS… If this video was a book, I’d call it, “a real page turner.” So much so, that I’m not going to write any more - as I’m off to watch PART TWO, without delay! 😊👍

[@TheHistoryChap]

Hope you enjoy part 2 as much.

[@the5thmusketeer215]

@@TheHistoryChap I did, thank you Chris; very much… & learned a great deal about this fascinating historical topic at the same time. 😊👍

[@PanzerAce760]

The British Empire was blessed to have such a dedicated and capable man like Gordon.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to comment

[@NathanDudani]

Thanks for more long-form videos, even moreso for two in a series at that!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Hi Nathan, I'm glad that you like it (them). Personally I am a fan of long-form videos but I do appreciate that there are many busy people who seem to want the history of the British Empire in 2 minutes! What subjects would you love to hear about in the future?

[@NathanDudani]

@@TheHistoryChap You have covered so, so many great ones already, and in depth at that; though, if I had to recommend one, I would say the 1650-1651 or thereabouts surrender of the Colonies to the Commonwealth, as well as how their return to the Realm surrounding the Restoration.

[@orthoff123]

Great Story.... Dankeschön!!!!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for watching

[@nefersguy]

Wonderfully informative. Thrilled I came across your channel, scribed.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for subscribing. I appreciate your support. What would you like me to talk about in the future?

[@craigcarroll8953]

Really glad I found your channel sir

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your support.

[@jeffsmith2022]

Thank you for the video, have watched the film about 20 times, love it...Gordon Pasha...

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@jonathanwilde5337]

This man is an idol of mine. Thank you so much for this video

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you enjoyed. Gordon was a very complex man who is often seen in very simple imperialist/anti-imperialist light. I think his whole quest to "find himself" resonates with many of us today (although maybe different value sets). Please do subscribe to my channel, if you haven't already.

[@jonathanwilde5337]

@@TheHistoryChap I think it was his determination to do right over what was perhaps practical. Like you said, different values of the time maybe, but you have to admire his philanthropy and sense of justice. He got a bit carried away at the end though perhaps haha

[@georgegoodyear9631]

Hello Chris, By chance, I saw the Charlton Heston film “Khartoum”, the other night. Although it was visually impressive and well-acted, the otherwise-articulate script did not completely explain the relevant background context of the events for an uninitiated viewer, such as myself. However, thanks to your enlightening overview of Gordon, I am now better informed; so, thank you for that kind service. By the way, I seem to remember “Chinese Gordon” featuring in “Flashman and the Dragon”, when I read the novel, some years ago. Are you a fan of the adventures of that fictional Victorian rogue?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Hello George, I'm glad that you enjoyed it and thank you for becoming a supporter. Gosh, I haven't read the Flashman novels for years...maybe I need to get back into them.

[@gordonpeden6234]

I loved the way that G.M.Fraser inserted Flashman into historic events. Very entertaining "Historical" fiction.

[@fran87blacon]

@@gordonpeden6234 you will love the “sharpe” novels by Bernard Cornwell.

[@rule3036]

Harry Flashman V.C. v.d and scar. A true British hero, exactly the kind of non woke character British boys should be reading and aspiring to emulate😁

[@funkyalfonso]

@@TheHistoryChap Yes you should. I remember listening to the BBC radio Today show when the very first Flashman novel came out with an interview with the author. He was having hysterics about an American post-grad history student who wanted to study Flashman not knowing it was fiction. What a plonker.

[@greggweber9967]

Politicians couldn't understand nor control one of his character.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Totally agree Gregg. Not sure many in the military could either.

[@jasonparr4275]

Bloody wonderful!!! Pardon my French!!! Best wishes from Brisbane, Qld, Australia. Cheers J//

[@TheHistoryChap]

Glad you are enjoying. Thanks fro your support.

[@trolllo9729]

Keep up the good work

[@JamesThomas-gg6il]

Wait, what,?!? You suckered me into watching another video. How am I supposed to get anything done...oh well I guess food can wait.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Ha ha, James. Glad you are a fan! Please make sure to subscribe for future videos. kzbin.info Chris

[@oldgitsknowstuff]

Wow ! I'm going to need to watch this Part 1 production several times as there is much detailed information. Delivered with your Trademark enthusiasm I was riveted to my couch for the entire duration. Why is there a Pterodactyl flying on the left side of the painting of some Turkisk city ? Is it a prehistoric painting ? Just an observation. My respects. ..

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for your kind words. I think you have spotted a seagull at Istanbul, although having lost a Cornish pasty to a seagull in St. Ives they might be related to Pterodactyls!

[@jasonparr4275]

You are an amazing historian!!!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you very much.

[@vincentpyle2296]

enjoy your work

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you.

[@danielmaguire3010]

How do you have so few subscribers? Awesome content

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks Daniel. Spread the word & I'll get there!

[@jaymorgan7728]

Agreed.

[@DarrenMarsh-kx8hd]

Is there any chance of you doing a video on Livingstones adventures?

[@TheHistoryChap]

He is on my list as are several other explorers. Bear with me on this one.

[@AlRedsoxFan]

Excellent 🙂

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching

[@laurencejones8977]

Does anyone know who played the part of Gordon of Khartoum in the movie ? Was it Charleton Heston ?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Yes it was

[@robertwalker9130]

John Charles carter . Was his real name according to Wikipedia.

[@DalekSec4]

Sadly like many great people in Britain's past they are now all but forgotten. People like Gordon should be remembered but I doubt that thinking of mine will be seen as very pc as the British Empire appears to be a taboo subject by many these days.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Interestingly, I have had Sudanese viewers saying positive things about him and British viewers being ashamed. Interesting world we live in !

[@Anon-ps7gq]

@@TheHistoryChap nah we don’t care 🤷‍♂️🇬🇧💪

[@joebombero1]

There is an effort worldwide to dismantle individual nations and erect a single totalitarian world government. Memories of the British Empire, as well as American Economic Empire, are therefore discouraged by these delusional, but politically powerful people.

[@nigelhamilton815]

Not to me.

[@ChuckJansenII]

Very informative. This clears a lot up. I saw the movie Khartoum with Charlton Heston. Would love to know your opinion of the accuracy of the movie.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for getting in touch. Film was reasonably close to the actual story (compared to many modern films based on historical events!). Biggest deviation was Gordon riding into the Mahdi's camp and meeting him. Although that was based upon an event when he had previously been Governor of Sudan and ridden into the camp of a rebel commander.

[@ChuckJansenII]

@@TheHistoryChap Thank you for the reply. I always questioned the scene where Gordon and the Mahdi met. I can see they did that for dramatic effect since they had once previously met. I have not seen Khartoum in years. My father was an air line pilot and film collector. He had a 35mm print of this movie. He also had The Longest Day (👍), The Battle of the Bulge (👎), Tora! Tora! Tora! (👍), Battle of Britain (👍), and The Alamo (🤔). My father actually met John Wayne while the Alamo was being filmed when The Duke visited the officer's club at Kelly AFB near San Antonio Texas. There are some movies that were not at all historically accurate like Santa Fe Trail (1940) Custer was still at West Point in 1859 and became a graduate in 1861. None of the classmates of James Ewell Brown Stuart were in his class of 1854. Honestly, 1941 was more accurate than a lot of supposed historically accurate movies. It did one thing well. It painted a picture of what could happen when a country was on edge so much so that every shadow looked like an enemy about to strike.

[@macbatz6734]

Just personally speaking, I like he film, I just can't stand Charlton Heston doing one of his Heroic acts. He managed it alright in Ben Hur, but it must have gone to his head as his heros become ever more cardboard . And as to be expected he was acted off the screen by Olivier. I know thèse days à rôle like that should go to an north African or middle eastern actor, and quite right too, but when it was still accepted we got some grat performances, like this one, or Sir Alec Guiness in Lawrence of Arabia....

[@ChuckJansenII]

@@macbatz6734 Yeah. That's just your personal opinion. I completely reject your opinion. What evidence do you have that these type roles went to his head? I also don't give a damn about casting diversity of was already made. Diversity is just a word for being racist against straight white dudes..

[@macbatz6734]

@@ChuckJansenII well you evidently can't read. I said clearly that at the time it was acceptable, I support it, and Olivier and guiness were great, as they were almost everytime. They were réal actors who learned their craft the hard way, in the theatre. Heston was à jumped up preening Hollywood star, who most of the time couldn't act his way out of à paper bag. And that is my considered professional opinion , and I have directed actors for more than 40 years. On top of all, he had a very sad end as the président of the racist and fascist national rifle association. Of whom you are probably à member

[@jayfelsberg1931]

The British were fighting The Opium War when the Taiping Revolt was raging on 1860. They were actually willing to help the Imperial government survive (or at least protect British interests in Shanghai), but had constant problems with Ward and the EVA. Once the war ended, Lord Elgin burned the Summer Palace, and Ward was dead, that changed. The ultimate fictional account is, of course, "Flashman and the Dragon," which is a largely accurate account that feature Sir Harry as prisoner and stud to the Dowager Empress (yes, that Dowager Empress). Flash hints that they very briefly encountered each other during the Boxer Rebellion (those Flashman Papers have not been released). Flashman also recounts in a collection of short stories of being Shanghaied by Joe Woolsey to be his chief of intelligence in the Sudan. (it's easy to imagine Flash being dressed in native garb and sneaking or whatever into Khartoum).

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@thehaus6998]

Leapold asking Gordon to be the governor of the congo,like Hitler asking Mandela to rule over Poland

[@TheHistoryChap]

One of the more bizarre appointments in history.

[@brownsauce30]

Absolutely excellent 👏

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you so much for those kind words of support.

[@matthewmckever2312]

I see you have a bunch of Jack Higgins. I grew up on these, Wilbur Smith and Len Deighton. Top reads. I heard that Gordon and the Mahdi played chess together and were on pretty friendly terms. Is this true or Victorian, " I heard this down the pub from some bloke-ism-ness"?

[@James-pq7nf]

the greatest of british generals

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

[@mickeymortimer4407]

such a great little documentary piece, thanks, nicely done mate! are you using a The White Nile (forgot the title, it's at home while I am stranded in SE Asia) as a source (pardon the pun!!!)? I have that book and the illustrations look familiar!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed.

[@wanderingsoul7935]

A good old Woolwich man, that place breeds tough rebellious men, must be something in the water.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Woolwich certainly bred some resilient characters. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Please make sure to subscribe for future videos. kzbin.info

[@johnbeven9600]

Do you know Ex MP and my teacher at RMA Sandhurst. Keith Simpson? you have the same fervor, and intelligent excitement> Thank you kind Sir.. ex Scots Grey's officer.

[@mortdecai6655]

Brilliant video.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks! Might need to do a follow up on Kitchener's campaign. What do you think?

[@mortdecai6655]

@@TheHistoryChap Kitchener is a most intriguing individual, I'm sure he'd make for a spiffing video.

[@rockoosooty]

Amazing! Amazing! Amazing!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@jeffweir771]

Great job! But at 10:52, the captions misquote you. The caption says 'restoring slavery,' vice abolishing slavery.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Oh thank you for pointing that out

[@plflaherty1]

Luv a good story!

[@TheHistoryChap]

I’m glad that you enjoyed my story. Please make sure to subscribe for future videos. www.thehistorychap.com

[@Candywarhol]

Leopold? Right-hand man? I see what you did there!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Did you?

[@macbatz6734]

If possible, could you flesh out even more the Sudan-and-Mahdi story, and do talk on Slatin Pasha, and Emin Pasha? I know they weren't British, but they are fascinating historical figure. Rudolf Slatin was Austrian, and ended up the only person ever to be enobledcby 3 différent countries : Sir Rudolf von Slatin Pasha. He was imprisoned by the Mahdi but escaped. And Emin was à physician and scientist from Germany, Dr Eduard Schnitzler, who was made governor of Equatoria, the southernmost Sudanese province (roughly, today's South Sudan), - and held out against the Mahdi troops until the end !

[@TheHistoryChap]

I will do at some stage because they are, as you said, fascinating stories.

[@gerardoramoncesarreynaldo9469]

Much later down the decades, there was another British Army officer with a Christian evangelization background: Orde Wingate of Burma.

[@TheHistoryChap]

With a Sudan connection. It was his father who finally defeated the Mahdi's successor (after the Battle of Omdurman).

[@derekmurray1462]

What better man to portray General Gordon other than Charlton Heston in that great film

[@TheHistoryChap]

Might need to do a comparison between the film and the reality. Might be an interesting video.

[@billevans7936]

A fine story

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment

[@dyejohn1905]

Is that the W T Stead who wrote The Titan?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Yes.

[@BTBJDJ]

My great great Uncle from the Enderby side

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video & sharing the details of your Uncle.

[@بابكرحسن-ع8ط]

غوردون انشاء افضل جامعة بالسودان

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to comment

[@KandonKuuson]

Would you do something on David Livingstone?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Will add to my list.

[@soundknight]

This is why one should not believe the strategy of the press.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts

[@jayfelsberg1931]

Garnet Woolsey....the very picture of a modern major general.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Indeed :)

[@ImperialistRunningDo]

General Garnet Wolesely was the very model of a modern major general.

[@TheHistoryChap]

G&S modelled their song on him and supposedly Wolesely enjoyed the satire and used to sing it around his house!

[@andysvehiclehistorychannel]

What a painting 🖼

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for taking the time to comment

[@PineMartinAmerican]

Wonderful Videos!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching.

[@AdilElhajEljack]

As a Sudanese, I have a different angle of the story !

[@TheHistoryChap]

Naturally, every story has two sides (if not more!)

[@andrewlizotte5540]

I love God and Jesus with all my heart!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank for commenting.

[@andrewince8824]

We know Gordon didn't simply allow the enemy to kill him. It's easy to figure that out. He was a fighter, he'd been fighting for decades. He was also human. Find me one human who when faced with a violent foe refuses to fight back after years of waging war. No doubt he fought a short and courageous fight before being overwhelmed. The Victorians are well known for romantic storytelling. They are largely responsible for the image of the chivalrous Knight who'd never stab a man in the back or threaten a young lady to influence his foe. Robin Hood was written as a cheeky scamp who only targeted the wealthy and distributed the spoils to the impoverished with archery skills even a certain Marvel superhero would envy. King Arthur became a noble king with alarmingly 16th century looking Knights for a figure purported to have lived in the 5th or 6th century, the time of the Saxon and Jute invasions. Quite the rise from a local ruler whose base is widely believed to be in Cornwall. The idea of a courageous hero accepting his fate with quiet dignity is so fitting of a Victorian tale one finds oneself surprised he is not claimed to have uttered some phrase such as, "Willingly I give my life for my Queen and my Country" prior to his death. Victorians; interesting history, incredible novelists, unmatched romantics.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thank you for taking the time to comment.

[@rickcroucher]

Is General Gordon the founder of the Gordon's Boy Home? My dad used to embarrassed his mother by telling his friends on the other side of the street that she was taking him to the Gordon Boy's Home. I've often wondered.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Yes he was

[@ottocarr3688]

General Wingate is under appreciated.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Indeed, as is Ord Wingate too. If you enjoyed please do subscribe for future videos. kzbin.info

[@BluespotKneeClinic]

Very accurate impartial account. One cannot blame the Sudanese for defending themselves against a foreign invader. Quite engaging account

[@TheHistoryChap]

Many thanks.

[@guywillson1549]

​@TheHistoryChap a lot of history with positive evidence of Christian conduct effecting events usually gets overlooked. For example, one of the major effects during his time in China fighting the rebels with the 're-vitalised' EVA (Ever Victorious Army) was his response that the Chinese usually kill all captives of the opposing forces as a matter of routine. Gordon's new EVA under his direction was to take the captives back to HQ feed and clothe them followed by inviting them to change sides which invariably they did. He also set up an orphanage for boys in Gravesend that set many up for a seafaring career. Chenevix-Trench in his biography of Gordon suggested he may have had homosexual motives. Bearing in mind that homosexuality is a travesty to Christians, that without evidence, this is typical of media responses toward believers. Another event was about Churchill that Billy Graham led him to receive Christ in 1951. (Graham's book "All that I am". Keep up the good work.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for watching my video & for your very informative feedback.

[@guywillson1549]

Gordon's Calvary was already accepted by Christians as the mostly likely location of Jesus's crucifixion and burial from which He rose. Because it meets the Biblical criteria including the title Skull Hill; the Church of the Holy Sepulchre rests on the direction by Constantine from his mother Helena that the site was, according to locals, the right place. Bearing in mind the place was a dump still in a similar state as it was left by Titus in 71AD. Since followed by institutional religious people until the 19th Century. Look into the history.

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your interesting feedback.

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

Who would prevail? The man who believed he was the righteous one guided by god versus the man who believed he was the righteous one guided by god. ;)

[@TheHistoryChap]

Interesting conundrum.

[@ferretman6790]

He’s literally me

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@eric2685]

Unfortunately, Gordon would not be a hero to the so called ' Progressives' in our midst today . Being a Christian myself , I'm sure he's okay now , and with Christ. A very interesting series you've got going , by the way . Why not do one on the Alamo battle , of 1836 ?

[@TheHistoryChap]

Eric, thanks for taking the time to comment. I am trying to stick to British history although the Alamo is tempting.

[@eric2685]

Okay . I think from my vague memories of reading that the Alamo and Khartoum sieges had similar origins , in that both Bowie and Gordon were supposed to extract whatever they could and then pull back ( the Alamo cannon , in Bowie's case - there were a few - and the civilians in Gordon's case ) . Both stayed , entrenched themselves , and were subsequently killed in sieges. The Alamo was avenged by Houston at San Jacinto , Khartoum avenged at Omderman . My history ' facts' are hazy , so it's just me passing by . Understand about your sticking with British history . I was always interested in Mons Graupius , but that's Agricola and around AD 80 , something that is more Brittania than British. ..

[@ashrafnouman8010]

The map you used is unfortunately not correct as halaib triangle is part of Sudan and not Egypt . You could check with the British foreign ministry maps or the UN maps.

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@ashrafnouman8010]

@@TheHistoryChap Thank you for your nice history Channel

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

There are two ‘triangles’ on that border. One is claimed by both governments: the other is claimed by neither… It’s understood that the former is full of natural resources, while the latter isn’t. Furthermore, the reason neither claims the second triangle is that, apparently, it’s thought by both governments that, if they claim the second triangle, the other will say “fair enough, you take that one and we’ll have the other”…

[@davidnewland2461]

The more I things change the more they stay the same same

[@TheHistoryChap]

History has a way of repeating itself (unfortunately).

[@angloaust1575]

Stout fellow the victorian hero type let down by gladstone Who wouldn't commit to a Full war against the mahdi!

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@AbobakrAlsiddig]

المهدي عليه السلام .. ❤

[@TheHistoryChap]

History is all about perspectives

[@MrGoneTroppo]

They really don't make 'em like Chinese Gordon these days

[@TheHistoryChap]

They certainly don’t

[@bakrishuib5923]

Was Almahdi slaves trader?Please reply ASAP

[@TheHistoryChap]

He was a religious leader not a slave trader. However he viewed slavery as justified in Sharia Law and spoke about enslaving non-believers. Consequently, he had many supporters who were slave traders. This is outlined in an interesting article by Kim Searcy in the Islamic Africa journal published in 2010. You also might find this interesting: www.sealionpress.co.uk/post/africa-during-the-scramble-the-mahdi

[@bakrishuib5923]

I'm Sudanese and I heard some people said he was the slaves trader that's why I've asked you. Thank you so much for a fast replying 💕

[@morriganmhor5078]

Excuse me, but at least according to contemporary data, the Hicks´ army was not so massive, constisting of 8,000 Egyptian regulars, 1,000 bashi-bazouk cavalry, 100 tribal irregulars and 2,000 camp followers and included only thirteen Europeans (including civilists as Edmund O'Donovan of The Daily News and Frank Vizetelly of The Graphic). )After marching for some time they were set upon by the entire Mahdist army of about 40,000 warriors on November 3. The Egyptian forces quickly formed into a defensive square. According to reports published in England soon after, the square held for two days before finally collapsing, so it wasn´t "crushed immediately".

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@jebremocampo9194]

Fun fact, British rule forced the Sudanese to stop their slave trade which they resisted fiercely. When British rule was cut slavery returned. It was then later abolished when the British retook it years later. Colonialism is a very nuanced thing. On one hand the atrocious dealing the Brits gave to the people and "exploitation" of their resources, but on the other they abolished slavery, and people generally were more well of under the British rule prior to British rule (as reflected in the economic growth and better living standard). A more educated population also grew out of their rule. Goes to show that the world is not black and white (hahaha)

[@TheHistoryChap]

You are right about the slavery in Sudan. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@Bigtimecharlie1349]

Istanbul not Constantinople 😂

[@TheHistoryChap]

Constantinople at that time.

[@billshepherd4331]

Gordon was a bit over rated. Fredric Townend Ward established & created the Ever Victorious Army!

[@TheHistoryChap]

Thanks for your feedback

[@billshepherd4331]

@@TheHistoryChap You're welcome.

[@judithmatthews8460]

Keep out of other peoples countries. Gordon was killed because he invaded another persons homeland. When you live in an ex colony you see firsthand that what we were taught about the empire is rubbish. The adverse effects of colonisation is very noticeable. I like every Brit thought Britain’s empire was a good influence. It wasn’t it was dreadful.

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@dentonstales2778]

Rather amusing, Gordon's Christianity motivating him to end slavery, and yet the Bible said slavery was OK!

[@TheHistoryChap]

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[@bdoon51]

One of the things not mentioned is that Gordon fought against the Taping in China. These people advocated land redistribution, gender equality, the end of opium addiction and alcoholism, corruption, foreign dominance Gordon also did not start the militia Ever Victorious...., am S American did. Taping victory would have brought light into a dark century.

[@TheHistoryChap]

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