General Grievous vs Morgan's Mother | Star Wars Tales of the Empire

[@Elite731]

The way general grevious is laughing like a maniac while saying "Run!" just shows how scary he is.

[@carter358]

No, the constant laughing was stupid. Grevious was so much better as a silent killer in his first appearance in the original Clone Wars cartoon. Sadly, they turned him into giggling Snidely Whiplash after that.

[@m4x927]

@@carter358 George Lucas wanted him to be a mustache twirling villain so ig u can blame him for the change

[@beebobber546]

@@carter358eh in my opinion that was cold as fuck mockingly laughing the last word their mother just said after slainning her

[@austinwilson7373]

Grievous was meant to be a symbol of terror, against strong opponents he still utilizes that strategy, but against weaker targets that he’s already vastly outnumbered and effectively beaten already, it just helps shatter the remaining morale

[@vladlenvolkov9034]

General Grievous 2003 joined the chat

[@thirdcoinedge]

Three rules for scary Greivous: 1. Have his combat utilize his rotational multi-limbed nature to make him a unique foe. 2. Don't have him talk so much - allows for better "show don't tell" and keeps him from devolving into his "Mwahaha die Jedi scum! Hahaha! *coughing*" routine from the early Clone Wars seasons. 3. He is a general, don't have him rely on his droids as a crutch, but as a tool. Safe to say this scene accomplished all those rules.

[@tronovonflidder775]

1. Yeah it's nice to see his abilities used in full form. I'll give you that. 2. I like him talking, his personality & attitude is crazy good. So I disagree. He was probably only quiet here since the fight was so easy, he was simply relishing in her struggles. But for the most part, I don't want him to be another Darth Vader. 3. I mean, I don't think he ever really NEEDS his droids in a fight. He does use them as tools sometimes. And every example I can think of where it's looked like he, "needed them," he didn't actually. For example, during the Eeth Koth fight, even if Koth did land a lightsaber strike on Grievous, he'd just tank it.

[@willrowe6088]

​@@tronovonflidder775 3. What do you mean?? Did you not see the Ventress fight on this very planet?

[@tronovonflidder775]

@@willrowe6088 General Grievous gave no fucks about her or the fight. If they were actually alone, he likely would have put effort in. Furthermore, what would she have done while he was down? He could have easily just tanked or blocked a strike, gotten back up n' carried on like he did against Kit Fisto. He likely just couldn't even be bothered, she was dead either way according to him.

[@thataberranthalo8032]

I have to disagree with the second bit. Grievous was the precursor to Vader. It would make sense if he didn’t speak during most fights. It’s ironic in a way.

[@tronovonflidder775]

@@thataberranthalo8032 I don't understand why every threatening bad guy has to be the stoic type. Have ya'll never heard of Gilgamesh, Megatron, Doctor Doom?

[@Jack-kx5em]

I love how Grievous actually changed into his Clone Wars Season 7 appearance.

[@josenathanieltendencia245]

"Wipe them out. All of them." Hey! Palpatine said that in phantom menace. Haha

[@lordchara4461]

Well they were both ecualy successful

[@ChuckDickens24]

Man his feet are as lethal as his lightsabers.

[@calebleach7988]

Yeah he literally made a dude disintegrate when he landed on top of him in the 2003 clone wars show (it was just animation style but still terrifying)

[@rarescevei8268]

​@@calebleach7988He didnt disintegrate, he was crushed but wasnt really shown, y'know, censorship.

[@calebleach7988]

@@rarescevei8268 exactly. The guy was there one moment and then he wasn’t. Disintegrated

[@m4x927]

there was a scene in the clone wars where he crushed a clone's chest with his feet in front of Kenobi

[@ChuckDickens24]

@@m4x927side note: I think Anakin's personal low wasn't slaughtering younglings, it was being captured and bartered for Grievous in a prisoner swap after Gungans bravely captured that bombad warrior lol yousaa screwed upp sa

[@itsmeike]

They really made Grievous like a horror movie villain in this episode. It was pretty baller

[@rdowg]

It only took......what? 15 years for that to come back? It only happened in his introductoon (the original clone wars cartoon), and now, probably the last time we'll see him

[@victor2641]

​@@rdowgbattle of the droid where he chase ashoka, or in grevious lair,

[@DrownedWick]

I love how Grievous used that third lightsaber on the right side to kill Morgan's mother because in the Clone Wars when he invaded Dathomir, Ventress cut off his bottom left arm or something like that. So it's nice to see that flow into this scene.

[@Servellion]

Actually both arms are fully intact in this scene. So either he got a quick repair or they didn't bother to model the damage.

[@rarescevei8268]

​@@ServellionProbably a quick repair. Save Dooku, than just get that repair done and continue the massacre.

[@catai1368]

And the cape?

[@WarriorOutcastRebelJedi]

@@catai1368he could have put it on to be dramatic. We all know Grievous is dramatic

[@Mammothsaber-4457]

@@catai1368ehh the cape could be a small retcon the only reason grievous had it off so much in TCW to begin with is because it was hard to animate.

[@hes1shot671]

0:55 Commando Droid: Get Back here and fight me like a man!

[@Vilgax00]

YoU sExiSt

[@fadillangston9797]

​@@Vilgax00 HILARIOUS AND ORIGINAL.

[@jrim7887]

"I'm à girl"

[@potatoes3075]

This is how it is fighting him when you’re not a main character

[@tarzantabi7845]

more like when you dont have plot armor

[@MeOfficalX]

Yup

[@doritodemon6949]

Bro they brought back the original clone wars 2003 general grevious, because of how terrifying he was

[@SkyOfflaneOnly]

Nah OG Grievous would killed her in 3 seconds. But yes, compare to average CW 2008 Grievous, this one is some improvement!

[@calebhall383]

@@SkyOfflaneOnlyfax. Still no where near 2003 grievous

[@Wanderer-nw2so]

@@SkyOfflaneOnly to be fair with Jedi. He can’t really play with his food. He probably would have destroyed her in three seconds, but he doesn’t really have to here he can wait a little bit and besides, it didn’t even look like he was struggling at all against her.

[@josephperez2004]

Sadly I don't know that we have the 3D model assets needed to recreated 2003 Grievous. Those two showings were so quick, fluid and unique.

[@ceruleanprince7139]

@@SkyOfflaneOnly it just seems like he was just playing with her. He could’ve killed her in 3 seconds. He even tossed her so he could fight some more for fun.

[@rdowg]

And it only took......what? 21 years for Grevious to look threatening again? Seriously, he should've been like this the entire time

[@toastle8005]

To be fair to the Clone Wars, there were genuinely some scenes in the mid and late seasons where he was a horrifying force of nature. The show just started off REALLY weak, but as a kid I remember his boarding of a ship in one episode being a really good show of him

[@yvngxnightmare]

I hope we get tales of the Separatists next so we get more Grevious scenes

[@chriscorcoran4515]

I like seeing Grievous fight with his cape on. He looks much better with it.

[@theepicdude0002]

Interestingly, grievous killed Morgan’s mother in a similar way he killed Nahdar Vebb. While having them in saber lock, grievous cheats with a hidden weapon.

[@GregoryMcStevens]

Not really cheatin jedi have the force, nightsisters have magic, grevious has extra limbs

[@_tenebris25_]

This was my first thought too

[@ricardoroman7511]

I hate the "Grevious cheats" arguments because he's literally fighting space wizards without having any powers himself. Hell, jedis and siths fight using the force and clairvoyance/precognition to predict and counter each other's moves, yet Grevious still keeps up without force powers. If anything, he's a true practitioner of the Art of War/Book of Five rings, doing anything to win/survive because that is true war.

[@rustkarl]

Cheating? There’s no rules on a battlefield. Besides, holding a skill/weapon in reserve isn’t cheating, it’s holding back.

[@theepicdude0002]

Okay, I guess it’s not cheating but it’s still a dirty move.

[@user-nl8pb3hx5f]

Dayum. Grievous at it again. Nice to see the ROTS upgrade

[@om3r732]

I will be honest when i saw grevious in the first time from the 2003 microseries he became my most fevorite charcter in SW. This grevious is so close to that beast they made back there its amazing. Ngl if i was in SW and i will here this laugth i will run away..

[@vladlenvolkov9034]

Does it look like GG from 2003? Is this a joke?

[@TheBreadbear]

​@@vladlenvolkov9034 It's probably the closest we'll get to 2003 version. There are aspects that wouldn't really work with how this CW is compared to 2003. For example: General physical prowess of basically everyone in 2003 was way higher (Windu fistfighting an entire army of B2s, Grievous chasing down an elevator by running down the side of a building) This version of Grievous has already shown that he has his classic lung problems so it's safe to assume that he wouldn't even be able to achieve the strength and agility of 2003 version. What does come close to the 2003 version is him not talking until he's done fighting and using his body in more inventive way during combat. Most importantly, he wasn't played off as a joke but as a terrifying opponent they have no way to beat.

[@lbrett7054]

It's nice to see Grievous slowly returning to his former glory.

[@rebelion-ghost2311]

I love how they fixed grievious to be simular to his 2003 version, and no longer a joke for laughs and a coward like his 2008 version, this feels actualy threatening and like a feared general that killed countless jedi.

[@Nostroman_Praetor]

This was perfect. It was like watching the 2003 Grevious in 3D animation. Fast, intimidating, and aggressive. He even uses his cyborg body to catch his opponent off guard, using his extra hands to one-up his opponent in compromised positions. I wish he was always this way in The Clone Wars.

[@vladlenvolkov9034]

Does it look like GG from 2003? Is this a joke?

[@ricardoroman7511]

I lost my shit when she pulled up with the egyptian/summerian kopesh axes from the third millenium B.C. against the four-armed cyborg warrior with laser swords.

[@rustkarl]

Those are sickles, not Khopesh.

[@NenMagem9106]

​@@rustkarl that's what I was thinking 😂

[@toastle8005]

@@rustkarl yeah, Kopesh bend in the opposite direction to sickles

[@rustkarl]

@@toastle8005 Among other things, such as less curvature, the blade being on the outer edge, the average length being longer and generally speaking the general purpose, that being a sickle is a farming tool that can be used as a weapon in a pinch while a khopesh is designed as a weapon first and foremost.

[@Termi325]

I wish we got to see more of this general grievous in clone wars. He got nerfed big time compared to o.g clone wars.

[@Awesomeflame16]

And so did his guards that used the staffs bro, those things were so much faster and could actually provide a Jedi a decent fight.

[@omarbaba9892]

A couple of them captured Anakin in one episode

[@smugplush]

@@Awesomeflame16 Grievous + his guards are a massive threat in Revenge of The Sith Video Game, that's how they both should've been portrayed through the TV Shows even 2003 got that right.

[@matthewturner5178]

My favorite part of this is how they bring some of the “horror movie monster” energy back to Grievous here. Except for a small part in the duel, he only moves in one direction. Forwards.

[@ThaumB086]

This just show how a character without the force can be in trouble while facing grievous if the Jedi didn’t had the force he could probably kill a lot of theme, I mean more than he already has

[@MandalorianDinRamos]

I really hoping they create story about general grievous

[@Automaton_officer]

Next series with grievous TCW season 1-5 remastered

[@omarbaba9892]

1-6 you mean Along with releasing all the unfinished episodes

[@watership02]

Dude can you imagine if they just redid the entire clone wars in this style

[@mechanwhal6590]

More! MORE!!!!!

[@Automaton_officer]

WE NEED MORE GRIEVOUS SCENES IN COMING SHOWS

[@mechanwhal6590]

@@Automaton_officer Right? Lucas’s idea that Grievous had to be nerfed to avoid overshadowing Vader was frankly laughable!

[@phillipwalling7470]

​@@mechanwhal6590 No offense, but Vader's overrated at this point. He peaked at Kenobi.

[@mechanwhal6590]

@@phillipwalling7470 I’m not offended in the least.

[@phillipwalling7470]

@@mechanwhal6590 It's meant to be for fans in general, not just you. But good to hear.

[@dwarfdigger135]

This is it, this is him

[@LeoCelestial-gq3kk]

Grievous and the droids can be really intimidating when they they don't have to fight characters who have plot armor.

[@sougotokiwa8439]

Never follow anyone who says "Come On." First Onderon, now this. Death...

[@Servellion]

0:58 I like this. General Grievous is agile enough that he can even use his feet in ways you wouldn't expect. Still would love to get some of that very asymmetrical fighting from the Clone Wars toon where he wielded 3 lighsabers: 2 in his hands and a third held by his leg. Made him amazingly hard to predict.

[@victor2641]

That ain't ever going to be animated without it looking ridiculous.

[@Servellion]

@@victor2641 Depends on the execution. We still have idiots blade binding and just staring at each other over their blades for dramatic effect and people don't question it much.

[@victor2641]

@@Servellion disagree with how the clone Wars cybernetic technology is portrayed not like something in an anime.

[@irishpatriotv2575]

like a giant asthmatic clanking cyborg can sneak up on someone

[@jamesthepeacock1919]

"RUN! Wipe them out... All of them. Run! RUUUNNN!" He said 8 wordsand yet he was still the highlight of the show. Legend.

[@wraith9605]

Anybody else think he needs his own series?

[@gottesurteil3201]

I'm glad to see Grievous knows how to use his detachable arms in this fight.

[@asaknightproductions]

best part is he doesn't even use it as a crutch

[@bouncyblight2001]

This just shows that Grievous needs his own show. In terms of design and how iconic he is he’s arguably better than Darth Vader himself in those aspects.

[@Rocka5438]

that first "run" from grevious gave me chills

[@sadlad3821]

This is my ideal Grievous, an extremely powerful, sociopathic monster that still has this layer of goofiness to him with that voice, and enjoys the thrill of the hunt

[@EmperorNapoleon1815]

For the Nightsisters, it was the Apocalypse. For General Grievous, it was Tuesday.

[@rickyk4583]

Imagine if Greivous was this scary in every TCW scene he was in (he should have been). I imagine Filoni didn't direct this because for once the viewer actually sees him as a threat

[@Mammothsaber-4457]

People blame Filoni for how Grievous was handled in TCW but it was actually George Lucas who insisted that Grievous be portrayed that way

[@michakoniecpolski5677]

​@@Mammothsaber-4457 saint filoni did nuffin wrong

[@captaintristan1176]

2003 greavious is back.

[@justlikethesimulations5461]

He remembered me of a certain Lunatic Yelling "Run Forest"

[@spraint521.]

When I saw that the series began with the assault on Dathomir, I did not believe that General Grievous would appear again. after all he was busy with ventress

[@joseangelvarolopez2379]

Esta versión de grievous me fascinó

[@estonhall5364]

Yo también

[@AntiSimpTrooper-175]

I had hoped we would get to see him again in a updated form

[@basedbattledroid3507]

I've said it so many times but Grievous fights so much better when he keeps the cape on idk why he ever takes it off

[@Mammothsaber-4457]

He takes it off because was hard to animate

[@AbsurdJANGO]

Someone needs to make this scene with the 2003 General Grievous music

[@JackPool-lq8ux]

Respect for the Droids who fell to evil Darkside Witches. Seriously, the Nightsisters are the bad guys.

[@voidghidorah9729]

Another reason why He is my Favorit Star wars character

[@ndhickson3599]

0:06 I love how the droid army temporarily ceases fire so the sisters can devote their full attention to Grievous’s epic entrance, and once that’s over they resume shooting at 0:16 😂

[@QualityBuddy]

0:06 horrible way to go wouldnt want that for my worst enemies

[@rustkarl]

Compared to what most of the Sith do to their enemies, this was merciful.

[@MeOfficalX]

@@rustkarlgeneral grievous isn’t a Sith, he’s a warrior!!

[@rustkarl]

@@MeOfficalX I didn’t say he was a Sith. I said that compared to what Sith do, being stabbed in the back is merciful.

[@agustigarciavila1880]

Grievous did what everybody said It would be a smart thing for him to do in a light saberfight.

[@AngelYt-xs6yy]

General grievous from 2003 is back during this episode

[@korshum4878]

Finally something terrifically good

[@heretomakeitclear4194]

I can understand why Morgan’s mum didn’t win the fight, but I’d at least expect her magic enchanted weaponry to remain unaffected by Grievous’ lightsaber strikes. What was the point in her chanting that spell on the item and then it not enhancing the metal to remain durable?

[@Haloguy3959]

The metal was never going to be durable enough, those runes were the only stopping him from cutting the blades up and when the runes faded, the weapon it along with it. Also, this is fucking Grievous we're talking about, not some Rebels Inquisitor, he's killed and fought much more powerful people, this campaign of slaughter was most likely some of the most fun Grievous ever had. There's a reason only named jedi tend to fight him more then once, anyone else who did is dead. Morgan did not have the experience to keep up, not to mention Grievous is a cyborg.

[@heretomakeitclear4194]

@@Haloguy3959I’m not really confused by Grievous winning, I just expected her weapon to remain unscathed even when she lost because she did that spell and it looked all for nothing. IMO the flames should’ve remained despite the strength of Grevious’ impact. (*Spoiler from Ashoka - don’t read ahead if you haven’t watched and intend to) Like how Morgan’s enchanted sword remained in the same condition throughout her last fight with Ahsoka, despite the fact that she lost.

[@Haloguy3959]

@@heretomakeitclear4194 Fair enough, I just gave my idea. Maybe Morgan's sword was better made or the magic was stronger, idk.

[@stormcooper7368]

Just looks to be a weaker enchantment to me. Also it was probably just a temporary one at that because why else would she not have it like that all the time? Or at least before grievous showed up because there is already an attack going on. With that in mind it makes me think it was a quick activation of her weapon that already had a weaker enchantment, so she just needs to buy some time for her sisters/or get a quick win. Also she looks like a mid or lower rank sister so she probs doesn’t have any of the stronger shit the higher ups have so there’s that too. But I’m no expert so I’m probably wrong.🤔

[@heretomakeitclear4194]

⁠​⁠@@stormcooper7368that actually makes more sense to me now. That’s a fair conclusion

[@CheeseRunner]

I always thought Grievous looked cool but outside of his original appearance in the Clone Wars cartoon (in which he's an absolute monster) I thought he never really lived up to his reputation. But him mockingly repeating "run" while laughing is the scariest thing I've ever seen in Star Wars.

[@BroPaulSyrel]

So many violent when Grievous kills Morgan's mother

[@grandmasterg8572]

General Grevious: Return of the dawg

[@natedowns5]

The mom sounded like Raven from teen titans

[@asaknightproductions]

General Grievous when it comes to fighting main characters: oh hell no General Grievous when it comes to fighting unnamed characters: its showtime

[@darthlord1997]

Me, a Legends fan: "Hey! Just like how he killed Adi Gallia!"

[@elizabethharper9081]

grievous is an edgelord sent to deal with feminists

[@tedgruver7618]

0:06-0:08-0:09

[@davidkocur7562]

The people who animated it are cheeky bxx. They made him NOT cough

[@edsonlandaverde4509]

Wiped them out all of them - darth sidious Ep1

[@nobodyblamesthelightsaber7013]

Still find it funny obi wan went for the kick on this guy

[@iamchrispaezjr]

Morgan’s mother is named Selena.

[@MoonBat_0602]

*_On Which Page Can I Download It?_*

[@Xong217]

considering grievous died such a horrible death (that obi wan laughed off lmao) he got what he deserved

[@Kamina.D.Fierce]

Look kids. We finally met an army that is undeniably worse than the Battle Droids. Think about it, if you connect this to the original clone wars episode, they had every advantage you could offer: Knowledge of their home turf. Impeded terrain. Knowledge of Droid army tactics. Concealed (high) positions. A LITERAL UNDEAD ARMY. Ventress. Their "magic". And yet... they did everything to nullify those advantages: Openly engaging the droid armies in one mass attack. Giving up their concealed (higher) positions to fight the droids head on. Fighting lines of coordinated Droid laser fire with laser "bows" and traditional weapons rushing at them. Their undead army had no weapons of their own and had to also rush the enemy to do anything. Ventress didn't kill Grievous (she couldn't have, we know this, but still it counts as a fumble on her part). None of the other sisters used the magic other than the mother and she was too busy "playing with dolls" instead of just finishing Dooku off in seconds and then driving off the Droid army with her powers (again, we know Dooku had plot armor here but it still counts as a HUGE TACTICALLY ×××× UP WHEN IT RESULTS IN HER SPECIES BEING NEARLY RENDERED EXTINCT.

[@dshock85]

Clone wars made Grievous the villain he should have been in the prequels.

[@yoga5631]

Seeing this just reaffim my belief that the original clone wars was basically an in-universe propaganda cartoon for the republic And that the other series shows the real side of the clone wars

[@GreenNinj4]

This show was kinda eh but at least we finally got lore accurate Grievous and Droid Army

[@AdibMurshed52]

RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[@CRazyAsLaino-2001]

Mmmm I love grievous

[@emirmirza6545]

wheres the coughing

[@chromadome6046]

And thus, Grievous did nothing wrong

[@zeroalpha9713]

Not a lot of empire in Tales of the empire

[@e.j5813]

There we go grievous is scary again. Y’all GG fans happy now?

[@rustkarl]

Take a look around, even a rhetoric question just makes it look like a stupid question.

[@MT-iw6sl]

Grievous yet again *Uses his other arm to kill an opponent in an unearned cheap shot *Doesnt overpower or out skill them *Uses his droids to do some of the fighting instead of just himself *Fights someone he should be able to kill easily but instead gets a long fight scene to show off their “skill” “Oh but this is scary Grievous” This is absolute trash compared to 2003 Grievous. Even RotS Grievous is far more competent.

[@melvinbigsmokeharris7640]

ROTS was the literally the worst depiction of the character. Dude couldn't even be bothered to use his lightsabers properly. Atleast here, they showed him actually being able to kill somebody instead of running away. That's more than enough since Grievous was already doomed to be a waste the moment Lucas felt he would outshine Vader.

[@MT-iw6sl]

@@melvinbigsmokeharris7640 Grievous lost easily in RoTs because that was SUPPOSED to be the first time he fought Obi Wan. But instead, thanks to the “genius” of Dave Filloni, we’re stuck in this weird loop where Grievous has a rivalry with Obi Wan even though it makes absolutely no sense in the film. You get no indication they’ve ever met before or Grievous actually “hates” Obi Wan.

[@quocanhnguyen8844]

Ok now i'm thinking that Grievous's death wasn't beacuse he is weaker than Obiwan but because the show made him to

[@omarbaba9892]

No it’s because the 2003 CW stupidly overhyped his power and made him comically powerful

[@rustkarl]

@@omarbaba9892 You… you have seen what the Jedi were capable of in that series right? Like Mace Windu using his bare hands on a horde of B2 Super Battle Droids and winning? A lot of the live action and 3D animation is toned down because it’s physically impossible to portray in the case of the former, and incredibly difficult/labour intensive to do with the latter. Things like say the Revenge of the Sith novelisation states Grievous striking up to 20 times in the span of a second in his last duel, (so 5 strikes per second per arm), only for Kenobi to block or evade every single one through precognition and force enhancement. Power levels are bonkers because the writing is all over the place, everywhere all the time.

[@omarbaba9892]

@@rustkarl yes I have seen that but then what wasn’t canon with that series? The Mace battle scene could be said to have been purposefully portrayed as over the top but Grevious canonically killed about 4 Jedi at once so did then characters just not exist then?

[@rustkarl]

@@omarbaba9892 I mean, when Disney took over they basically retconned the character so now we have no idea what they decided to keep. Lair of Grievous specifically threw his entire backstory into question.

[@omarbaba9892]

@@rustkarl well it’s pretty obvious what was kept, everything was wiped except the 6 original films and the clone wars, the clone wars already massively retconned a lot of the expanded universe anyway since Lucas didn’t like it

[@dragonleo_]

Did Grievous actually won? Wow that's a surprise.

[@xlllxllltvtvt]

Literally the only good part of this show

[@alexanderrahl7034]

The "evil villain laugh" trope is so played the hell out and corny. Like, its a cliche, and so more often analyzed. "Why is he laughing?" The answer: "because hes eViL!" But here? Grievous' laughing is spot on for his character, hes a mad, sadistic genocide robot. He isnt laughing "because hes evil", hes laughing because killing a girl's mother in front of her during a genocide campaign is something he genuinely _enjoys_ doing.

[@michakoniecpolski5677]

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