Halo 1 - The Secret Vehicles You Normally Can't Drive

[@Tydusis1]

I remember playing a map mod in Halo CE PC and it had drivable longswords with nukes. Fun times

[@xanfire7331]

Cold snap, extinction and hugeass good times.

[@Tydusis1]

@@xanfire7331 huge ass! That was it! Good times indeed lol

[@ChouRaiyuki]

There were also maps with driveable Spirits like Icewing and Firewing but sadly almost no one played on those. Most of the maps that did have spirits also lacked the turret (since that's a separate AI which I'm not certain if it's a vehicle itself or something else) but the map pair I mentioned did have it. I do remember having the fortune of finding a server once or twice with those maps and we did all just jump into a spirit and had fun flying and getting flown around in it.

[@Stevenssapiens]

Extinction

[@fmwr1397]

I still play Custom Edition. I got a nostalgic attachment to it.

[@adamspeiser6449]

The Covenant's great journey: activating the halo ring Master Chief's great journey: DRIVING THE HALO RING

[@dsdy1205]

If he drives it with Guilty Spark's help, that would literally be throwback Tuesdays from a hundred thousand years ago.

[@hoey2323]

The Great Journey in the Deep South: MONSTER RING RALLY

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

"A Halo ring, in atmosphere?" "One way to get their attention!" "Everyone hang on to your teeth!"

[@HeadBanger14x]

Imagine if the RVB guys had access to all these vehicles. The stories would be wild.

[@lilrolls8928]

caboose wud flying in the drop pod

[@sleepyfilipino]

They would've had so much more to work with. I wish they did.

[@darthbleach8513]

JEsus that would be chaos. I can definitely see Caboose riding the Halo ring.

[@evangalinsky2499]

If they had filmed it on PC instead of Xbox, using halo custom edition, they literally could have (and SO much more).

[@jamesloder8652]

*stories

[@bondedcastaway3085]

Im pretty sure the astro pelican is used in cutscenes like the beginning of assault on the control room so the pelican doesnt hit anything while flying up to scare the grunt

[@illcollapseyourwavefunctio9375]

I figured ones used in like the upper atmosphere and space itself

[@JackJonValois]

Glad we got these because the method they used to make most of the cutscenes were having devs actually driving the vehicles themselves in cutscenes instead of going through the work of scripting them. Too bad newer games do not use this method so you wont see non playable vehicles that are player friendly unless a dev made it to play around with.

[@343TheSentient]

I remember hearing about that in the dev commentary! Cool stuff. Apparently they had to record the Flood story cinematic with Pvt. Mendez multiple times to get character movements to look the way they wanted. Halo Dev Machinima

[@LeanMan82]

arguably the most fun method for both devs and players alike

[@S3anyBoy]

The spirit needs to have the turret removed (or ai_allegiance player covenant) to be enterable, it won't let you enter it with the turret since it's an enemy "riding" the vehicle. I had an s3dpak with all these anniversary models on b30 you could've used btw

[@Xineombine]

Didn't know that, but that does explain why I was never able to get that seat to work either

[@MaximandArbiter]

The no_clip banshee does actually no_clip at the end of Truth and Reconciliation! If you just get it asap and turn immediately and low you'll go under the pavement

[@giygas9305]

Yeah lol I never even knew this till a few years ago and tried it out

[@Spartan375X]

Do you mean at the end of the mission Keyes?

[@giygas9305]

@@Spartan375X yeah he does lol.

[@canyongoat2096]

At the end of Keyes. Truth and Reconciliatioj never had banshees. I always used the noclip banshee in Keyes to go out of the map, into rooms you were not supposed to go to. Then quickly got out of it and could walk around in areas you were not meant to see.

[@MaximandArbiter]

@@Spartan375X yes, sorry my bad 😅

[@stephenlarson9148]

The astral pelican was probably used for the end of Silent Cartographer where Foehammer goes down the hatch, because the pelican is bigger than the hole it flies into.

[@217adaptiveperspective]

5:40 Ah yes, the iconic box Zuka 'Zamamee and Yayap hid in during the failed ambush on Chief during the same level. God knows how they both managed to fit in there...

[@stylesrj]

Very carefully?

[@SakisTheDrifter]

There are some b30_falling boxes on the mission silent cartographer. I would recommend you searching on this. Also thank you for making a halo 1 video!!!

[@lucaseasthope8266]

He covers those in this video

[@lucaseasthope8266]

5:46

[@halo_origins8080]

@@lucaseasthope8266 I think he meant what they're used for

[@giygas9305]

Wow I never even knew they were actually in the game lol

[@IlyaSPARTAN108]

I'm guessing that they're a test for physics on these objects? Kind of like how it's done in SPV3?

[@janembaskitkow]

For the Spirit dropship try going in the middle of it (where the blue plasma is) and go to where the turret is supposed to be attached and press whatever button you use to get into vehicles with to pilot it. Sometimes that works whenever i used to make it drivable back in the Custom Edition days!

[@ChouRaiyuki]

Is the turret the actual driver normally?

[@Mr.Meme01]

@@ChouRaiyuki I'm pretty sure that turrent is a different seat separate from the driver. I think it's part of why he couldn't figure out how to get in since the turrent ai was still in it. I believe it's that way in h2 as well, where the phantom turrents are separate ai.

[@gifthorse3675]

The Bumblebees never got enough love so I’m glad they’ve used them in Infinite

[@nomecognome6713]

I feel like the "falling box" was supposed to be a movable object just like the future games, since scenery obj couldn't move yet, it was probably set as vehicle so it could be pushed. Considering how the splatter works on halo ce, I'm glad it didn't appeared in the final game

[@tatsuyashiba6931]

"Chief, mind telling me what youre doing on that ship?" "Sir, driving the ring"

[@GeremyG]

Surprised you didn’t mention the unique text strings for some of these. Potentially showing cut content since there’s a “Hold E to enter Wraith” specific message but some others display a generic missing entry notification.

[@SilentNinjaJG]

I doubt you'll see this comment lol but you can fly the spirit drop ship, if you make the driver seat a banshee or better yet to not crash the game a ghost. That way the invisible pilot doesn't get kicked and crash the game, I did it back in the day. Remember doin it many times on assault on the control room and that was it, But the driver's seat is in the middle front, kind of where the ghost and wraith sit When they're flying in

[@ClubFubtheGodGD]

Bro imagine a secret mission where chief is just casually driving the entire ring itself XD

[@domvasta]

Put the halo ring on a custom map, have it kill all players when fired, if your team are all dead, you wouldn't lose any points. It would be great for infection games.

[@dsdy1205]

8:00 It's also used in the Start Menu

[@WWLinkMasterX]

"b30" is the internal filename for the mission Silent Cartographer (though as a modder, you probably already know that). Recall that in the last cutscene of The Silent Cartographer, a pelican descends through an opening at the top of the island into the halo ring. In that cutscene, _you see covenant crates falling_ from the same opening because they (presumably) were placed on top of the 'lid' and fell in after it opened. I don't know how this effect is achieved in the final game, but you probably also already know that Halo 1's "scenery tags" are fixed in place. They can't move. So if you want movable scenery (outside of using something like a "device object") it's best to make it an un-drivable vehicle. So if the falling crates in the Silent Cartographer cutscene don't use this method, it's at least likely that Bungie experimented with this method early on. It's also very likely why the halo ring is a vehicle: it can be seen rotating (moving!) outside the window on Pillar of Autumn.

[@meifyoucan]

I miss the days of flying the Spirit and Longsword on Coldsnap and Extinction, such great times.

[@Leftysrev3nge]

Surreal seeing Halo inside Halo. Tiny Halo with the giant Halo in the skybox. Nicely aligned.

[@Born...]

At the end of silent cartographer when you go into the man hole, there are boxes that fall down with you. This box is made a vehicle because it would be able to flip and act like any vehicle would, hence why the box that normally does not move in gameplay flips in that cutscene. It is only used in that one cutscene, Every other space create you see is stitched into the geometry.

[@evangalinsky2499]

Almost all of these are available to drive in custom edition maps, and all of these vehicles we see in cutscenes actually had to be driven by the devs in the cutscenes, so you may not have been able to make it drive able but they can be (source from the devs themselves from a video of them watching a halo 1 speed run by garishgoblin, they commented on how difficult it was to film the cutscrenes)

[@DOSBrony]

I'm pretty sure that the B30 falling boxes are used in the ending cutscene of The Silent Cartographer, when that sliding disc opens. The boxes were made vehicles so that they would fall into the chasm while that disc was moving out of the way. At least, I think that's what happened. I don't know if it's in retail or if it was scrapped during one of the beta phases.

[@7GSC251]

Some of these unused vehicles probably were used in some of the advertisements for the game.

[@sierramasterchief8534]

I think you could fly the long sword. It was just saying drive pelican when you were near the back of it, but there was no pelican around.

[@l9m241]

The First Banshee was a more early version of it. When it was shown off (in this level as well funny enough) in early test footage and it had the pelican sounds and moved very quickly, guess they recycled it for the Key's mission by accident. If I recall, there's even banshee's still in the level file of Silent Cartographer, but are disabled upon level load. They're placed on the top area of the island. Or am I confusing it with ghosts? I've haven't touched the tools in a while so I can't remember. I'm assuming the covenant crate IS used somewhere, since the only way to have physics objects in Halo 1 is to tag them as a vehicle type. I'm guessing that's what they did to work around that situation. The "Cinematic" Scorpion with it's health bar is most likely made in an early version such as the 1749 halo 1 build. Since in that build, the tank DID have health, but no damage model. Though I'm sure it's used in PoA in the introduction cutscene and didn't bother removing the code for the hud element? There was a tank in PoA's intro right?

[@stylesrj]

Yeah there's Scorpions being rallied in the hangar bay in the opening cutscene.

[@connorp4213]

One of the cool things about the Halo: CE development is Bungie couldn't get the pilot AI to work the way they wanted them to so that's why are there are specific models for the cutscenes as well as the landing/takeoff sequences of Spirits and Pelicans during gameplay being one of the few pieces of gameplay hard-baked into the game. The devs had to manually record the flight patters until they got one that looked right. That's why on the level Halo there can be a Spirit seen flying upwards hitting and then skipping over the top edge of a cliff. The flight path was locked in but the geometry of the cliff was changed either in the Gamebox PC port or the MCC (which was based off of the PC port) so it looks like the Spirit is just kinda flying into a wall. I think it's really interesting how they used the tools available to get to the end result, it took a lot of tricks to make the game we all know and love to actually work.

[@stylesrj]

Nah, that Spirit hitting the wall was also in the classic Xbox version.

[@Kirbylight2]

I remember seeing an old video on the drivable Lifepod Reentry vehicle and Pelican. I really wanted to find a way drive them

[@jamon283]

The small Halo ring just floating there looks so menacing... So ominous.

[@theneoreformationist]

they need a halo mission where you CAN drive a halo ring, and use it to escape a planet-eating gravemind.

[@blakerobinson2322]

“Driving the hall ring doesn’t do anything, you can’t actually move it” Cut to the entire ring drifting through space

[@goblinpicklesworth2968]

Solid vid, this could be a good series going through all the games.

[@Neos1heOne]

That re entry pod is freakin sweet

[@stormbreaker415]

KZbin title: The secret vehicles you normally can't drive General Heed: Can't drive this for some reason... Never change my friend...

[@raychauvette1467]

I cant image how difficult it would've been to get that reentry life pod in position for the video

[@MachFiveFalcon]

1:52 is what I call my "Normal Life Pod" state. 1:56 is called a "Super Life Pod". 2:04 This is what is known as an "Ascended Life Pod", or you can just call it a "Super Life Pod 2". 2:44 And THIS, THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS TO GO BEYOND AN "ASCENDED LIFE POD"!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! .... AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!! ...... AAHHHHHHHH!GUERUARARGRRR!!!

[@-IceCat-]

This is Super God Pod.

[@1994patricklong]

For the spirit you have to be awkwardly positioned under the turret to enter. I struggled to make it flyable before but its doable

[@CMcSchwifty]

Huh, pretty cool! Would be cool if the Halo could move and could fire its weapon killing everything on the level. lol

[@sarahlewis1601]

Wasn't there a grunt in a covenant crate in the lore at least? That might be the reason why there is a covenant crate that is a vehicle because there might actually be a grunt in there.

[@K3nningar]

Wraith has the rocket launcher on it cause it was drivable in an old build of the game. Longsword and Spirit can be drivable with more modding.

[@theepicslayer7sss101]

if you want to try the Long Sword, try the map ColdSnap on Halo Custom Edition, there is even a Pelican than can mount Warthogs to drop them off! (but the Pelican drives janky AF.)

[@smokinpotato]

*drives the halo ring *presses the trigger and causes mass extinction

[@thirstyserpent1079]

Good god I'm thankful the covenant were never able to mass produce that high performance banshee xD

[@Poison_Jam]

Strange that you had trouble driving the dropship as the developers had to record themselves driving it and dropping off troops for the campaign

[@FreeBirdA-ts4zi]

That pilot’s chair looks like a rowing machine/exercise equipment out of context.

[@connorh122]

Hey general heed, would u be able to do comparison videos for things like the banshee? Warthog? Scorpion? U did a video comparing the ghost, so I was just wondering, hell even the plasma cannon (like u did for the machine gun turret)

[@rumbling9879]

Always loved the Halo ring in pillar of autumn even as a kid I would stare out the window and laugh at how comically small it was 2001 perspective for giant objects in beatable for how goofy it is

[@livingthedream0527]

The rifle being lowered would be a result of a gheto work around for doing the cryo pod, it seems they figured no one will have a weapon at that point so why not just have the character within so why go to the effort of scripting a new first person POV, when you can just have the current first person chief in there with no weapon to sell the illusion.

[@JonesBrothersProductionsiac]

Mmh. I wonder, are the noclip vehicles in the game meant to be vehicles driven into walls or floors and then meant to have a explosion effect be added on? Or even as a crashed vehicle so they don't have to worry about the game's physics getting involved? Being that if they wanted part of the vehicle to be put underground and a solid object would start freaking out.

[@LASRalphadeltaone]

No, they're meant to clip through map geo to hide their despawns

[@JonesBrothersProductionsiac]

@@LASRalphadeltaone Hide their despawns? What do you mean?

[@pyetr7120]

@@JonesBrothersProductionsiac So that they can clip through the ground, despawn, and disappear out of view. Would look weird if they just vanished into thin air while visible.

[@Beaneggs]

Felt weird seeing it referred to as ‘Halo 1’😂

[@-CrimsoN-]

Flying the Halo Ring is one of the most cursed Halo things I've ever seen.

[@SlimStarCraft]

It was always my dream as a kid to be able to drive a wraith and a spirit

[@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPD]

Maybe the crate was made into a vehicle so it could be a object with physics but that don’t work in halo ce

[@giygas9305]

Lmao

[@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPD]

Guess while I’m here the scorpion cinematic was probably for a cutscene/event. Like on crows nest where there’s a warthog programmed to Boom when the door opens or some time goes by. The tank has the same purpose and they lowered the health to make sure it goes off.

[@neryleal5265]

Man I wish the pillar of autumn was on there

[@ttm9514]

Hey general can you check if the halo 3 elites in campaign have two shades of red and blue. It’s something that’s questioned people to it being lighting or not. Kind regards, Toppermost :)

[@justanotherodst.954]

You're my childhood KZbinr , and the very best in my opinion. Keep up the good work heed!!

[@abhishekmukherji2332]

Awwesssome 😍😋👍🏼 love your work. Enjoyed all the vehicles

[@nathantebbens634]

That halo ring is likely also used in the original title screen on combat evolved

[@lithonious636]

Probably can't drive some of them because in development they had to record movements for the drop ships manually, they couldn't make an ai fly the ship, I assume the same is for the longsword, it would be on a set path that one of the Devs had to fly and record themselves

[@lithonious636]

I assume this wouldve been done through bump possession therefore not making them actual vehicles

[@exxennexx]

At 4:11 you mentioned that when you exit some of the vehicles the game crashes. I'm having that happen to me too in a different Halo: CE mod I'm working on. When I exit the vehicles in MCC the game crashes and I'm not sure why -- the game doesn't crash when I test the same map in Custom Edition. Is there a certain flag checked in the vehicle tag that causes this?

[@neoxela00]

General, what about the pelican with the rocket pods on that level?

[@weebsmcgee7012]

I remember driving the Longsword fighter on custom edition

[@stevemc6010]

That pose inside the cryo pod looks like alert carry in first person

[@raisinbran1421]

Finally the one thing I wanted to drive in the game, the halo itself

[@gc4060]

Best video you made in a while

[@realhkv4082]

This will be a hood classic

[@Ambidextrometer]

I like to think that the falling box was a prototype for a drop pod.

[@wildtom]

noclip pelecin is used when foehammer drops troops off in the covenent hanger (this is what I think, don't take this as fact)

[@Hell_0115]

I would love to play with all this vehicles with friends

[@1964catt]

Go's in crate vehicle, I am safe now

[@MisterJohnDoe]

I always thought some of these like the life pods were purely scripted.

[@jakethecarsandreactorvideo9409]

Can you no clip through the door that the invincible marines are in before you kill Captain Keyes?

[@thatonegoose1490]

The cov box is a vehicle for a reason by lore a grunt actually hid inside that box with an elite apparently something like that it was an elite who was hunting master chief a spec ops elite with a grunt that saved him

[@blessedxxiii1109]

The halo spirit is hands down my favourite ship kinda sad they just completely cut it after halo 2 cause in my opinion it's better than the phantom in terms of design it's only in halo ce,reach and halo 5

[@tomahawkm4687]

I would totally prank someone new to Halo to ride the cryotube while I get in the longsword

[@jakethecarsandreactorvideo9409]

Can you no clip through the door in pillar of autumn after you kill Captain Keyes?

[@chrissierra-5633]

Danm the first one that spartan is smashing that buttons to nothingness

[@Orgamorsh]

The halo ring might also be used for the control room. Just with a different shader.

[@RosheenQuynh]

Good eye! I forgot about that!

[@rileysloan4953]

For most, the answer was lost to history with creative decisions made for the MCC: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raa2pmmnbMuop5Y

[@Orgamorsh]

@@rileysloan4953 I forgot about the main menu. It has been so long since I've played OG CE.

[@ProPaperClip00]

I’m surprised how well the pelican works

[@SolSeal]

The noclip ones were probably used for debugging .

[@jacobs4545]

Its funny and sad that banned off of the map mod only content from over 20 years ago runs smoother than day 1 fallout content lol

[@Tarotb]

Now someone just needs to mod the halo ring so it rotates when you drive it...

[@spartangoku7610]

Do not press any triggers when driving the halo ring.

[@keanuballantyne8912]

Be dope if u can make the long sword drivable and walk in the cockpit

[@kroktal8896]

What if the dropping box was intended as a drop pod for weapons like in the next games?

[@siegeheavenly3601]

Can you upload in 4k please to increase the bitrate for better video quality?

[@spartanlee-3379]

@8:00 'Rings inside the rings...'

[@Golden_Elite2001]

GeneralKidd... You best.)

[@patoconzapatos]

Hearing "halo 1" instead of "halo ce" sound strange.

[@Emll_117]

But the longsword has been used in Coursed Edition

[@isaacmoon6739]

Make a prop hunt mod with these

[@jaredw5455]

They see me roll on, My Halo.

[@fordxbgtfalcon]

I just started to play through the original Halo 2 on my 360. Haven’t played it since 2004! I forgot how bland it was compared to this halo and halo 3.

[@garrettj.rodriguezslowpoke5094]

Mine wouldnt let me :(

[@Trump_Gaming]

Nice. Yeah, Halo 2’s colors are sooo bland and boring. It feels like they put almost no color into it. The difference between Halo 2 and 3 is crazy. Halo 3 is still a very beautiful game for today’s standards.

[@masterchief5822]

I play halo CE and halo 2 on my og Xbox lololol edit halo 2 is easier on og Xbox since jackals snipers are much slower to snipe u than MCC that's why halo 2 is the easiest halo for me and halo CE is kinda easier too on og Xbox

[@toowindy1177]

@@masterchief5822 are you ok?

[@Trump_Gaming]

@@masterchief5822 The 60 fps changes the game a lot for some reason. The physics and AI. In Reach on Long Night of Solace the ships’ AI are more aggressive.

[@bmxdude1337]

Good ol H1

[@biggs2407]

Can you flip the halo ring?

[@KevinIsNice6984]

just realized you missed a vehicle. i think you missed the hidden 2001 chevy tahoe

[@Botboi8866]

Can you do this for halo reach?