10 REASONS why Tie Fighter Pilots were the BEST

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We continue our 10 Flaws series by looking at why Tie Fighter Pilots and their training were amongst the best in the galaxy
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@supe4701
@supe4701 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine training your entire life just to get killed on your first day by some random space wizard
@PutsOnSneakers
@PutsOnSneakers 3 жыл бұрын
Story of my previous life. i'll just stick to you pathetic creatures this time
@mannofdober873
@mannofdober873 3 жыл бұрын
Even worse: Getting killed by a fucking Droid. "Yes Chopper, I am aware you murdered that cadet. Good job I guess."
@mylesdarwin3000
@mylesdarwin3000 2 жыл бұрын
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@ulisesmaddux2780
@ulisesmaddux2780 2 жыл бұрын
@Myles Darwin Instablaster ;)
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@mylesdarwin3000 2 жыл бұрын
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@jayburn00
@jayburn00 5 жыл бұрын
"Tie fighter pilots are crazy, tie defender pilots are blood thirsty, tie interceptor pilots are blood thirsty and crazy".
@solowingborders3239
@solowingborders3239 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Burn Where's that quote from?
@jayburn00
@jayburn00 5 жыл бұрын
@@solowingborders3239 I think the other guy is right, but I saw it in a legends reference book.
@robertdrexel2043
@robertdrexel2043 5 жыл бұрын
​@@solowingborders3239 Actually that is from Kyle Katarn and is this: "Your Generic TIE Grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot is suicidal and bloodthirsty." Which is from the New Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels entry on the TIE Interceptor. Though I do think there was another similar quote that I saw somewhere else which Han said though I wouldn't be surprised if Wedge had mentioned it something similar.
@gagida1829
@gagida1829 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao XDXD
@reginaldshort8486
@reginaldshort8486 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that quote was from the X-Wing series.
@Lord_Shadowz
@Lord_Shadowz 3 жыл бұрын
The Tie interceptor was being adopted to replace the regular tie fighter. It can use shields and missiles. Unfortunately no weapon can get through the rebels plot armor.
@nickgennady
@nickgennady 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest. Group of several standard Tie fighters would destroy x-wing without plot armor (even 1v1). We seen regular tie fighters 1 and 2 shot x-wings which makes sense as they have stronger lasers. Also Being faster and more Maneuverable beats shields in my opinion. The interceptor is awesome upgrade but not really needed.
@Ragnarok6664
@Ragnarok6664 5 жыл бұрын
No shields, all guts! For the Empire baby! Thanks for the thumbs up brothers & sisters of the Empire!
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 5 жыл бұрын
Just guts..... U are already a fxxxing dead son of a b**** at SNAFU or FUBAR level idiot!
@lancer737
@lancer737 5 жыл бұрын
@@pyeitme508 but you have presented no evidence showing this while being countered.
@AKlover
@AKlover 5 жыл бұрын
Judging by craft like the A-Wing having shields the Weight/Mass penalty was not that severe so you would be forced to see as a pilot how utterly disposable you are as a pilot that the empire would not spring for shields. Of course as a rebel pilot I wouldn't want guns on my ship that could not tear through an enemy ship of similar size in 2 hits on target anyway.
@jalpat2272
@jalpat2272 5 жыл бұрын
wedge antiles said: tie fighter pilots are suicidal, tie defender jockeys are bloodthirty and tie interceptor both suicidal and bloodthirty.
@theevildrummingsithlord1492
@theevildrummingsithlord1492 5 жыл бұрын
@@jalpat2272 I can see what Wedge meant; TIE's (regular) have no shielding but have decent firepower; TIE Defenders have awesome shielding and great firepower, but TIE interceptors have meh shielding with awesome firepower.
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 жыл бұрын
#11 always well dressed, after all, you wear a suit with your Tie … …
@tba113
@tba113 5 жыл бұрын
Aaand my keyboard is now wearing my coffee. Well played.
@BennyLlama39
@BennyLlama39 5 жыл бұрын
Oy vey...
@stardustcomet4714
@stardustcomet4714 5 жыл бұрын
*Slow-Claps*
@ryatt9365
@ryatt9365 5 жыл бұрын
😢👌
@edwardbaeg7141
@edwardbaeg7141 5 жыл бұрын
Why would a TIE wear a suit?
@guibin
@guibin 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, they were willing to get into those space coffins.
@BennyLlama39
@BennyLlama39 5 жыл бұрын
They weren't nicknamed "Die" fighters for nothing. 😀
@williampolmanteer7844
@williampolmanteer7844 4 жыл бұрын
The tie fighter was specifically designed for the pilot. Tie fighters had amazing speed, maneuverability, and did a lot of damage. The reason it had no life support was because it would make the pilots do there best and not just let themselves get hit because they think they are invincible. So the only reason they did that is because their pilots were way better than the rebel pilots and if they did there best they would be unstoppable.
@igy6togetherwemuststand927
@igy6togetherwemuststand927 4 жыл бұрын
Be better if they had the sharingan
@XxJay71xX
@XxJay71xX 3 жыл бұрын
@@williampolmanteer7844 also the main reason why people hate the tie is "du it doesn't have shields" welp... rebel ships have some shields, doesn't seems to help them that much when they're not flown by characters protected by the plot... also, the lack of an hyperdrive isn't such an issue when you take into account the fact that TIE are a defensive weapon, indeed: the empire and it's ships already control the galaxy, and are already well established almost everywhere, so they don't really NEED hyperdrives on fighters that are already pretty much on the front line.
@alarictheredboi276yearsago4
@alarictheredboi276yearsago4 3 жыл бұрын
Hey strap me into an interceptor. I may get killed fighting terrorists but goddamn I’ll be going fast and having fun while I do and maybe I’ll kill a few of the terrorists too.
@tba113
@tba113 5 жыл бұрын
More and more, I get the impression that the standard TIE fighter was a "fighting the last war" sort of design. An outgrowth of the ideas behind some of the best Republic-era interceptors, the TIE is great for running down pirates and hunting insurgents that don't have sophisticated anti-aircraft defenses, and is so inexpensive and low-maintenance that just about any model of light cruiser can host at least a few. Perfect for a government interested in extended peacekeeping, anti-smuggling, and anti-piracy missions. (As a side note, being able to field them just about anywhere like that is the _real_ advantage of inexpensive ships. Being cheap to replace is helpful, but being cheap enough to bring them along as a matter of course in the first place is what really counts.) The basic TIE design is less effective at fighting an open civil war against an organized, well-equipped Rebel Alliance. When Rebel units began fielding advanced fighters like A- and X-Wings, the TIEs still tended to give as good as they got, despite having lighter weapons and thinner defenses - but as the saying goes, fair fights are for suckers. Cue the rapid development programs of newer and more capable Imperial fighters. The X-1 Advanced that Vader flew, the blisteringly fast and heavily-armed TIE Interceptor, or the face-wreckingly powerful TIE Defender - many gamers described it as the "God-mode fighter" in the old TIE Fighter flight sim games - were all responses to the arrival of powerful Rebel fighters that started showing up and giving standard TIE fighters problems.
@adamjohnson4821
@adamjohnson4821 4 жыл бұрын
I remember taking a Tie Defender and setting it for waves of fighters. My personal best was 13 waves of rebel fighters. God that game was fun. They really should remake it.
@TheIfifi
@TheIfifi 5 жыл бұрын
I love the guts and glory approach of the Tie fighters, their desire for firepower and especially maneuverability and relying on skill rather than equipment to keep them alive. Throughout the Empire however, both in the pilot corp and the storm trooper corp, this entire "hunger games" approach where they weed out the weak and try to destroy relationship between soldiers rather than foster camaraderie, seems very stupid and I can only really explain it by poor writing... Even the Nazis put HUGE emphasis on the band of brothers and that officer from Star Wars Rebels going "No friendships in war, only victory matters" is just mind baffling. That's not how you train soldiers, that's how you train gangsters... And they should KNOW this. So it really just strikes me as bad writing where they want to give the empire no redeemable qualities.
@ezrafrazer7883
@ezrafrazer7883 5 жыл бұрын
Wise of you for saying that...if they cared about each other to some degree they would of done alote better and is true thats how you train gangsters because they always kill thier own or betray them...but i guess the empire didnt want any body having friends to chill with but i think some pilots and others such as stormtroopers were friends in a low key manner they must have share jokes and laugh with each other at some time...even the police have fun
@TheIfifi
@TheIfifi 5 жыл бұрын
@@ezrafrazer7883 Do yourself the favour and look at the fan-film "Bucketheads". Quite new and captures the spirit of stormtrooper very well. It's a stressful job and you can't expect them to have been constantly fearing betrayel from those they fight aloneside. It really just comes down to bad writing and the authors wanting to make sure everybody gets that the Empire is the baddies... Yeah, we get it, the Empire is evil. But they are people too, and people especially at war, need camaraderie. If the Nazis of all people, could inspire loyalty in their men then damned if the empire couldn't do the same. It would be sooo much more believable.
@ezrafrazer7883
@ezrafrazer7883 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheIfifi yeah sure ill check it out...i know team work counts and is about working toghtr yeah you are rite most people watch it as stormtroopers are just bad but they have lives i never foubd storm troopers to be evil they are just people who wanted a job and who wanted self better ment guess the movies dont explain much on empire side but ill check it the movie much respect
@NoTimeAllTime
@NoTimeAllTime 5 жыл бұрын
The dumbest thing Palpatine did was to try and impose Sith ideology into his military
@jangustl_wt2358
@jangustl_wt2358 5 жыл бұрын
@@ezrafrazer7883 or IMPS the relentless about a crew of a revenge class heavy carrier of the empire
@Sleeping_Insomiac
@Sleeping_Insomiac 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, the memories! Oooh-Rah! for the class of '94! Never forget clearing a laser-minefield in a tie interceptor under fire...
@Yoyle-jq9ul
@Yoyle-jq9ul 5 жыл бұрын
I find it weird that they’re not putting shields or things like that to save their experienced pilots
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 жыл бұрын
Yea not a great idea
@blah007001
@blah007001 5 жыл бұрын
How often do you see shields actually blocking a shot in the movies/tv show? Even for Rebel star fighters?
@lordfrostwind3151
@lordfrostwind3151 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a completely messed up cost benefit analysis. lets say a shield generator adds about 10,000 credits to the price of each TIE, however in return you increase fighter and pilot survivability which saves credits on, 1. Replacement fighters, 2. Replacement pilot training and equipment 3. Whatever measly payout the Empire has for the families of lost servicemen. Not to mention the non-monetary benefits such as Improvements to unit morale and experience gained by pilots who survive their engagements that can train new pilots, improve naval doctrines and even help improve on the design of future fighters.
@casbot71
@casbot71 5 жыл бұрын
@@lordfrostwind3151 And also lethality of the fighter. Shields mean that pilots have the confidence to take riskier shots and pull them off by not being dead. Unshielded Ties have to miss opportunities because they are to risky, or they take them and greatly increase their chance of failure by death.
@Yoyle-jq9ul
@Yoyle-jq9ul 5 жыл бұрын
And asteroids or anything could destroy the tie fighter
@COH-gl5yg
@COH-gl5yg 5 жыл бұрын
They could survive in that death trap no further explanation needed
@dat581
@dat581 5 жыл бұрын
an Irishman They didn’t, they died. End of story.
@taiwandxt6493
@taiwandxt6493 4 жыл бұрын
@@dat581 The Best of the Best Imperial Pilots actually managed to survive in TIE Fighters, and those very pilots praise the TIE Fighter.
@dat581
@dat581 4 жыл бұрын
@@taiwandxt6493 All fighter pilots say such things about their fighters; that doesn't make it true.
@taiwandxt6493
@taiwandxt6493 4 жыл бұрын
@@dat581 Wasn't really saying it was true, The TIE Fighter wasn't a great Fighter but it wasn't all bad. I like the TIE Fighter personally but that is just my opinion being an Empire boy.
@MickeyMH1
@MickeyMH1 5 жыл бұрын
Tie fighter pilots are the best because they produced many best pilots for the rebels
@gameoflife9576
@gameoflife9576 5 жыл бұрын
lmao
@aunrah02
@aunrah02 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this series. Very good sir, Keep it up.
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 5 жыл бұрын
Think of all the Imperial pilots who defected...they basically gave the rebellion its biggest weapon. And to think, he did it all to save them from extragalactic invaders.
@jooot_6850
@jooot_6850 5 жыл бұрын
Well, realistically, a TIE fighter wouldn't need shields because it could just zoom away from an X-wing or out turn an A-wing. It really wasn't that bad of a design when you give it say... a really well trained, dedicated pilot
@nickgennady
@nickgennady 2 жыл бұрын
Also not getting hit is number 1 rule anyway, even in WW2 which Star Wars is based on. So in my opinion and experience (Star Wars squadrons) tie fighters (interceptor is my main) are better than sluggish x-wings.
@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human
@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human Жыл бұрын
The shio that normally wins in dogfights is the one that sees the enemy first. Surprise wins 99% of the time. The famous Red Baron WW2 pilot said that if he didn't get the drop on his target he used his plane's powerful engines to escape into the clouds. Which is a huge problem for the TIE fighters - no visbility. The rebel ships have large canopies on the top of the ship, giving them 360⁰ visbility. When the scanners aren't working in the trench run, what do they do? "Pick up your visual scanning!" TIE Fighters have tiny, front canopies, no vision to the back, and giant steel panels on the sides even if they had wider canopies. They often would never see the ship that killed them in a dogfight.
@DyzelisLTU
@DyzelisLTU 5 жыл бұрын
I love the suit of the tie pilots really cool
@JRGProjects
@JRGProjects 5 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to see a Top Gun style Star Wars movie with the Imperial Pilots.
@user-sq7ug8yz7o
@user-sq7ug8yz7o Жыл бұрын
There's already a top gun trailer for ties. Just look it up on youtube.😂
@David_Alvarez77
@David_Alvarez77 5 жыл бұрын
There's no way Porkins is a former Imperial pilot.
@markvicferrer
@markvicferrer 5 жыл бұрын
Tie fighters remind me of the Zero fighters from WW2. Not entirely sure, but weren't most pilots samurai, who didn't see the danger of an unarmored ship, instead focusing on its speed, handling & firepower. I'm guessing tie fighter pilots training made them have a similar viewpoint.
@lancer737
@lancer737 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think so, that or they started getting volunteers from anyone as they were few on numbers. Zeros weren't known for having powerful weapons from what I recall.
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 жыл бұрын
The zeros problem was that they lack the self sealing fuel tanks like the US counterpart, the fighter is on an even match though as it is the pilot that made their weapons effective Also there are many other types of fighters the japanese are trying to produced and some of them were on par with the US counterparts but were faded into obscurity
@Segalmed
@Segalmed 5 жыл бұрын
At the time of introduction the ZERO was superior to anything it could expect to face. The extreme light-weight construction allowed high performance despite the rather weak engine (on that Japan was quite behind other countries). Also it had an unbelievable range for a fighter (the pilots learned to fly with maximum fuel efficency and even on occasion removed equipment like radios to to save on weight). This allowed them to surprise the Allies on several important occasions because they were believed to be far out of range. The problem was that the airframe was maxed out almost from the start and thus could not get the steady improvement possible for the typical Allied fighters (the German Messerschmitt 109 suffered from a similar problem, although not to such extremes). Like the Germans (but even more so) the Japanese selected the best of the best but had no system to replace them quickly. The few pre-war trained pilots that survived had each a very long kill list as a result (and some top aces did not die in combat but e.g. testing newly developed fighters that proved to still have design flaws or as passengers in unarmed transport flights intercepted by US fighters ).
@tba113
@tba113 5 жыл бұрын
If I understand things correctly, most Imperial Japanese pilots were not full-on samurai, since that was linked to lines of nobility vaguely similar to those used in parts of Europe - but you didn't need to be an actual samurai to follow their warrior code of _bushido,_ and the pilots certainly tended to see themselves in that light. The parallels between samurai and knighthood, or between the codes of chivalry and bushido, are not exact, but they fill similar roles - and both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan were pretty keen to play up the similarities between their own troops and those old heroic images.
@merobo5066
@merobo5066 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's also important to bring up that most planes weren't particularly well armoured, one of the few I'd consider actually armoured (as in more than maybe a relatively thin plate behind the pilot and bulletproof glass in frond of the pilot) would be the IL-2. The aforementioned lack of self sealing fuel tanks were a more significant defensive weakness than the lack of armour.
@ProcyonDei
@ProcyonDei 4 жыл бұрын
The fact that the TIE fighter pilots are efficiently piloting what's basically a metal coffin with guns strapped to the sides is a testament to how skilled they are.
@itzheadsetyt9192
@itzheadsetyt9192 5 жыл бұрын
10 reasons why you should watch Generation Tech!
@TKinfinity01
@TKinfinity01 5 жыл бұрын
Tie Fighter Pilots didn’t use protection...
@clash3583
@clash3583 5 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@hispanictrash5502
@hispanictrash5502 5 жыл бұрын
No wonder they had so many members 😏
@ea5yliver
@ea5yliver 5 жыл бұрын
I guarantee more than a few of 'em would have that tattooed somewhere on them. I know a ordinance Marine that got ink of a silhouetted fat chick with the saying "6531 Ordinance: 'We hump heavy things' "
@0x777
@0x777 4 жыл бұрын
So that explains their huge numbers.
@RYUZAKILL117
@RYUZAKILL117 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to like, but I think the current number fits better :P
@High_Key
@High_Key 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO. I don’t know how you do it but the humor in your videos, are so subtle yet hilarious. I literally LOLed when the Men In Black cutscene popped up “best of the best of the best. Sir!”
@BungieStudios
@BungieStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Deflector shields are a feelgood word for pilots.
@mattwells5347
@mattwells5347 5 жыл бұрын
Best, *of the best, of the best, of the best* of the best
@BennyLlama39
@BennyLlama39 5 жыл бұрын
Your boy Cap'n America has no idea why we're here. 🙂
@markwharton5438
@markwharton5438 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool insight into TIE Pilots.
@PpAirO5
@PpAirO5 5 жыл бұрын
I believe to have read that if a Tie fighter pilot survived a couple of missions (Can't remember the number) they were classified as Elite pilots, and could be asigned to fly the Tie interceptor. (My favourite imperial starfighter)
@N120Xeno
@N120Xeno 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick P I think if Tie pilots survived 20 missions they be granted a tie defender.
@king-oreos4003
@king-oreos4003 5 жыл бұрын
So there like the Japanese pilots during ww2
@adamkiraly9805
@adamkiraly9805 5 жыл бұрын
Well up until about 1942-43 by late war they were out of good pilots and flew out dated planes
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 жыл бұрын
The planes wasn't that outdated, there's the ki 100 for instance but due to resources are getting low they wouldn't be able to produce enough of them combined with the average axis policy of not rotating their pilots back to help asisst with training of new pilots
@thekenjistream8683
@thekenjistream8683 5 жыл бұрын
@@fulcrum2951 The Ki is a ground based plane. The A6 was the one US pilots mainly faced. And by the end of the war is was obselete
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 жыл бұрын
@@thekenjistream8683 i state the ki as an example of the late model aircrafts the japanese produced and utilized against the allies there is the n1kj fighter used by the imperial navy and the ki 84, the three fighters saw combat and is as effective as the US counterparts Problem is that the zero has been so popular that the other japanese aircrafts has been thrown into the pit of obscurity
@saltysnowflake5832
@saltysnowflake5832 5 жыл бұрын
king oreos *they’re
@mysteryminx2619
@mysteryminx2619 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you maintain the Fourth Wall.
@AuraKnightStar
@AuraKnightStar 5 жыл бұрын
Loving this series keep up the good work.
@CaidenClass
@CaidenClass 5 жыл бұрын
Where did he get the solo video
@halrold7369
@halrold7369 5 жыл бұрын
I bet it's deleted scenes or something that were leaked
@heroicaknight4735
@heroicaknight4735 5 жыл бұрын
That scene is on KZbin. Dunno where exactly he got it.
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and these tie pilots look cool and if they had better star fighters they might have stand a chance.
@spartandelta2756
@spartandelta2756 5 жыл бұрын
I made a rather lengthy response... But it seems to have disappeared. Anyway, in short summary, the TIE Fighters were practical and should have easily beaten the Rebels. Experience and maneuverability can easily beat durability, especially when starfighter shielding usually was not too impressive. I hope that folks do not look down upon the TIE Fighter just because the movies portray them as incompetent. Deus Ex Force is a very unfair plot device, heh
@Terenin
@Terenin 5 жыл бұрын
@@spartandelta2756 To make matters worse, they DID get better craft. TIE Interceptors were direct upgrades over the fighter and was piloted by fighter pilots that survived - by skill or luck or both - a specific number of missions in their craft. Then if you survived enough runs in the Interceptor, you were awarded with the right to fly TIE Defenders, the single most able and lethal fighter of it's age. TIE Defender pilots were extremely experienced, skilled, loyal to a fault and were operating the most powerful fighter around. Luckily for the Rebels, there were only so many of them to go around.
@spartandelta2756
@spartandelta2756 5 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree that the Alliance lucked out by not having to face TIE Defenders too often. In Star Wars: TIE Fighter, those things could outclass anything the Rebels had and then some. I am unsure of how they perform in the new canon, but my understanding is that they would still dominate space with ease. *Shrugs* I guess when it comes down to it, the Rebels really had fate on their side (Deus Ex Force) and only won due to coincidence more than anything else. Many of their pilots were good, but dogfighting is usually more about speed and maneuverability, which the Empire had on their side more often than not in combat engagements.
@awclark3
@awclark3 4 жыл бұрын
I give the pilots as either being brave or really dedicated. I always took the T.I.E. fighter as the Japanese zero. Started off as fast nimble planes, that were also cheaply made with including little to no shielding for the pilot and no self sealing tanks. Once the U.S. developed planes like the Corsair and Hell cats, they had a harder time surviving.
@IsaiahAmos017
@IsaiahAmos017 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t speak for the tie fighter but the tie interceptor from rogue squadron is a brilliant ship although it takes more skill to use similar to the a wing it is fast and nimble and has a very fast rate of fire
@darthvader4594
@darthvader4594 5 жыл бұрын
human pilots are always the best.
@stardustcomet4714
@stardustcomet4714 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Although, you'd be surprised at how good pegasus and unicorn pilots can be...
@Labrynth-13
@Labrynth-13 5 жыл бұрын
Said the cyborg Sorry lord vader i love your work but it was an easy shot.
@geeknow8063
@geeknow8063 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Hera?
@corporalturner
@corporalturner 4 жыл бұрын
Not many people remember that Luke wanted to join the Imperials in Ep:IV and he would have had not the Empire killed his aunt and uncle. That means Vader's destiny about Luke joining him as "Father and Son" in Ep:V would've happened.
@christopherpeters6365
@christopherpeters6365 2 жыл бұрын
Love yawl's work!!!🤙
@ncrranger9387
@ncrranger9387 5 жыл бұрын
I always liked the creativity in the genres
@TheHamno
@TheHamno 5 жыл бұрын
Love the videos and the quality, recommend getting a teleprompter rather than having the camera catch you reading off your phone. It could be as simple as a few properly placed mirrors and an app running on your phone ;) Keep it up!
@21April853BC
@21April853BC 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you read from the smart phone. That's really smart!
@MrRonald327
@MrRonald327 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating theory.
@NathanCudgel
@NathanCudgel 4 жыл бұрын
1:15 The “Academy” Luke mentions is actually just a flight school and is not affiliated with the Empire. This is mentioned in a deleted scene with Biggs.
@randycheow4268
@randycheow4268 5 жыл бұрын
6:30 I thought you are not supposed to leave a comrade behind enemy lines in a war zone
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on how badly your forces are encircled
@Shadx27
@Shadx27 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the stuff they have the Empire do to be 'bad guys' really just doesn't make any sense.
@MalfosRanger
@MalfosRanger 5 жыл бұрын
One would think that a conformist aviation program with an abundance of pilots would emphasize a wingman system and coordinated attacks. However going off the video, the TIE pilots were groomed to be look out for number one. It's not a particularly realistic system for a fighter program.
@aviatorengineer3491
@aviatorengineer3491 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shadx27 Basically this. A lot of the Empire's flaws come from the ridiculous way they absolutely *have* to be the most ridiculously evil, even when it clearly gets in the way of efficiency. The Legends continuity at least allowed for some flexibility and most of the time didn't feel the need to make every little thing the Empire did evil for the sake of evil. But the official canon? If you were to put that Empire on an alignment chart, they'd fall squarely under Chaotic Stupid. They're "similar to Nazis" by design so clearly every single thing they do must cause the maximum suffering for everybody involved.
@Shadx27
@Shadx27 5 жыл бұрын
@@aviatorengineer3491 Yeah, that is actually a sign of poor writing
@ryansanico6539
@ryansanico6539 5 жыл бұрын
This one is great👍👍👍👍
@ritomsen2294
@ritomsen2294 4 жыл бұрын
#11 They were brave. "No shields, all gut".
@tjappacloud7538
@tjappacloud7538 5 жыл бұрын
Generation analysis!!
@MichaelJohnson-kx3ln
@MichaelJohnson-kx3ln 3 жыл бұрын
Tycho Celchu, Bigs Darklighter, Hobbi Klavian,Han Solo of the real star wars canon, were all training under Soontir Fel. The Empires greatest fighter pilot. Remember the 187th worse, he got them in tip top fighting trim. I think it was the 187th, or 87th. Been a long time since l read the Fel series.
@HovektheArtist
@HovektheArtist 3 жыл бұрын
When you have the ability to go through an entire campaign in a tie, then nothing will ever scare you
@dixee6498
@dixee6498 5 жыл бұрын
I liked this video because you kept Allen in it
@ThatShyGuyMatt
@ThatShyGuyMatt 5 жыл бұрын
You need to do a series on "Top 10 reasons human are the best/worst" and "Top 10 reasons dolphins are the best/worst"
@shawn6860
@shawn6860 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! so we can learn to identify the weakness and strengths of both species.
@MichaelJohnson-kx3ln
@MichaelJohnson-kx3ln 3 жыл бұрын
ONLY THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE MIGHTY BEST!! CAN JOIN.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 5 жыл бұрын
Based on your economic argument, the lack of protection for the Tie pilots appears to be a feature, rather than a flaw. The Empire had a never ending wave of new recruits, and not enough billets for them. Thus, they built in features that would shorten to lives of the recruits, so that more can be taken on.
@jalakor
@jalakor 5 жыл бұрын
As a TIE Fighter pilot myself (X-wing vs TIE fighter game especially), I LOVE the lack of shields, the thrill of mortality. I’m wicked fast, packing very centralized lasers (VERY good hit/shot rate), and as tough as tissue paper :)
@derrickbonsell
@derrickbonsell 3 жыл бұрын
Imperial combat doctrine seems quite similar to that of the USSR's. In the Soviet military you didn't send reinforcements to save threatened units, you sent reinforcements to the forces that were achieving the objective. Sounds cold, but unlike the Empire from Star Wars, the Red Army survived its major combat test.
@arielwilson9293
@arielwilson9293 5 жыл бұрын
You have mentioned in several of these series that windows are unnecessary in a space craft where you could use sensors and VR. You are completely correct, but sensors and VR systems can fail or be damaged in combat. The windows are a backup plan; if your sensors fail for whatever reason, having windows means the pilot can still navigate safely. Its not combat effective, but it is enough to run away. In the legends X wing series of games, all of the fighters were equipped with sensors to "see" in all directions via radar, and you actually do use a HUD. If those sensors were damaged though, which could happen in the game if you got hit, you could still fly. It did make things a lot harder, but not impossible. I would argue that having at least one forward window of some sort in any starfighter, or any small vehicle for that matter, is absolutely essential. It might be a flaw, but removing the windows would be an even bigger flaw. They can potentially be concealed behind armor panels - and on some large capital ships there were panels of that sort (we see this in episode III) but windows are essential as a backup in case the sensors fail.
@GALAXIE67
@GALAXIE67 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent 👍☯️👍
@zachschmitt3654
@zachschmitt3654 5 жыл бұрын
Also do 10 flaws of Crab droids!!!! I want to learn more about those they cool
@marcothommen2484
@marcothommen2484 5 жыл бұрын
6:55 reminds me of the circle of equals.... seyla!
@beanjuice4263
@beanjuice4263 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a video of how the Old Republic would’ve handled the yuusan vang (I spelled that wrong)
@damdumah2552
@damdumah2552 5 жыл бұрын
I love the tie pilots uniform
@debasir6757
@debasir6757 5 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me that in 1977 the evil empire was USSR. The Empire was patterned after the Soviet socialist economy. Lots of cheap equipment, military was the major employer, and people were replaceable. Since the fall of the USSR, nobody talks about that.
@Game...007
@Game...007 5 жыл бұрын
"Evil" is just a perspective. The Empire was mostly modeled after WW2 Germany.
@preshlock
@preshlock 5 жыл бұрын
Empire relied more on sheer numbers and firepower for frontal assaults. Just like the Soviet Union. The Wehrmacht relied on superior quality of troops and equipment to enable smaller numbers to defeat numerically larger forces.
@debasir6757
@debasir6757 5 жыл бұрын
Game 007 Sorry, no. Elements of the empire were modeled after NAZI Germany (stormtroopers). Palpatine was definitely modeled after Hitler. WWII Germany used smaller technological forces to out maneuver larger forces. Then the larger, outdated forces would come in to hold the territory. That sounds more like the rebels. Cold War USSR doctrine used large numbers of less sophisticated forces to overwhelm the enemy. Their economy was based largely on government/military. I think you are forgetting that Lucas grew up at the height of the Cold War. Safety videos were shown to inform the public of what to do when the Soviet Union launched a nuclear attack. Space Race. The USA was backing rebels (and governments) all over the world to stop the spread of socialism. The Soviet Union was backing rebels and governments all over the world to spread socialism. If you wanted to know who the evil empire was, you only had to turn on the evening news. But we all know the news is just propaganda.
@bluenight104
@bluenight104 5 жыл бұрын
The Empire was modeled after Nazi germany.
@David_Alvarez77
@David_Alvarez77 5 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see how quickly people forgot about the overwhelming feeling of threat of the Soviet Union. And some people were born years after the its demise. Still, there are significant elements that were drawn from the nazis.
@generalstory9938
@generalstory9938 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find footage of Solos time in the Imperial Army/Navy, I don't remember seeing any except one, part in here from Solo that you mentioned
@t65bx25
@t65bx25 5 жыл бұрын
Turn on captions *Thai* fighter pilots
@Hektols
@Hektols 5 жыл бұрын
The Empire should have had since the beginning the wastly superior TIE Advance and TIE Defender in big numbers and assign them to the best TIE Fighter pilots. Not only it would have helped the Empire to keep the best of their best alive and make them fullfil their full potential with worthy weapons but would have made the rest of pilots to keep improving.
@lajoyalobos2009
@lajoyalobos2009 3 жыл бұрын
#7 is actually a big one that you pointed out. Flight time, even in a sim is crucial, especially in a craft like a TIE were there's little margin for error. I doubt the rebel pilots had good opportunities for simulator combat and most of their flight time probably was either mundane patrol or actual combat (very risky) whereas a TIE pilot (with the resources of the Empire) could potentially have constant flight time and the ability to learn from making deadly mistakes in a sim. Another factor is that they were trained to fly their specific spacecraft, whereas the rebels seemed to simply ask if they had ANY flight experience, even if it wasn't relevant to an X-wing, Y-wing, etc and plopped then in a fighter. In the real world, there are specific aircraft certifications for a reason *cough* 737 MAX *cough*. Sure, a Cessna pilot could jump on a F-22 Raptor and have the basics of flight down but the difference in engine start up, the cockpit layout and handling of the aircraft is going to be wildly different. They'd be clumsy at best and slow to respond until they've done it and made a few mistakes along the way (and hopefully lived to learn from said mistakes). Just the fact that Red Leader asks Luke if he's sure he can handle the X-wing makes me wonder who in the world they just let fly for them, and what if Luke got up there and couldn't handle it as well as he thought? This isn't as much of a plot hole in Luke's case as it's been said the T-16 and the X-wing had similar controls and both produced by Incom Corp but that does say something of the caliber of people they're willing to bring on board and gives credence to the fact that the rebels were desperate for pilots, even if someone's flight skills flat out sucked. The Empire on the other hand, could afford to be choosey and select the best performers. I mean, we don't make fun of TIE fighter accuracy do we?
@mattwells5347
@mattwells5347 5 жыл бұрын
Did you do a video on droid fighters yet? If not I wanna see the pros and/or cons of Vulture droids and Trifighters
@aguywholikesthemongolianna4956
@aguywholikesthemongolianna4956 4 жыл бұрын
at 8:33 it shows a scene that looks like it might have been part of the Solo movie but got cut. do you have the full clip available somewhere?
@bensweeney7855
@bensweeney7855 5 жыл бұрын
Okay Allen, did you make this video because of my comment on the A-wing video?😁 Anyway, as always, an excellent video, very well researched. I would have liked some more info from Legends sources, but that's personal preference. Anyway, you changed my mind, I no longer think that the A-wing wasn't used by the Empire because of pilot skill.
@collinbenellicogley
@collinbenellicogley 5 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on which in your opinion would be better or pros and cons of each? swarm philosophy of soldiers, fighters, and ships like the droids or a higher quality philosophy like the clones or greek spartans for another example.
@bearallen8010
@bearallen8010 4 жыл бұрын
The little bit that you talked about Han Solo was more interesting than the whole Solo movie.
@hydra9476
@hydra9476 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I just want to see the empire completely crush a rebel cell, make it a detective series, or a fbi, and end the series with a major space to ground battle where the stormtroopers actually do what they can without the rebellions plot armor.
@UnluckyCantaloupe4
@UnluckyCantaloupe4 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do an analysis of the rebel pilots ?
@Gary_The_Metro
@Gary_The_Metro 5 жыл бұрын
What movie are you using scenes from? I don't recall any of these scenes from the han solo movie
@stephenmacon4119
@stephenmacon4119 5 жыл бұрын
When people ask me what's it like to pilot a crotch rocket, I tell them that it's like having Han Solo skillz whilst flying in a TIE Fighter.
@Raul_Menendez
@Raul_Menendez 3 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader: Stay in attack formation. Some random smuggler: WOO HOO!
@rubie8410
@rubie8410 5 жыл бұрын
If the tie design wasnt so bulky (for a fighter) it might have been successful as a shock and awe/hit and run fighter, doing things similar to what we see x wing pilots doing ,dodging through small areas, maneuvering around asteroid fields, and being a huge pain to the enemy
@josiahdeleon285
@josiahdeleon285 5 жыл бұрын
Hey could you do a visor on star wars ships and their ww2 counterparts
@WWAHP
@WWAHP Жыл бұрын
Happy Star Wars Day
@Is_This_Really_Necessary
@Is_This_Really_Necessary 5 жыл бұрын
Who is the Imperial female officer at 5.09 mins in? (Bottom left hand corner of a picture with Darth Vader in the background and a rebel pilot on the bottom right hand side.) Also, which comic is that particular picture from?
@NoTimeAllTime
@NoTimeAllTime 5 жыл бұрын
Sith philosophy does not a effective military make
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 жыл бұрын
ah good point the imperial academies do remind me of the brotherhood of darkness era sith schools
@jasonskeans3327
@jasonskeans3327 5 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationTech whens the Republic vs earth series
@0x777
@0x777 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to be efficient if you can throw more resources at something.
@alluringming
@alluringming 5 жыл бұрын
What about scout trooper training, though seen many videos talk about storm troopers, storm commandos, and other special forces in storm trooper Corp I don’t here much about the scout troopers and what training they go through
@nuclearjanitors
@nuclearjanitors 5 жыл бұрын
Love the old school imperial stuff.
@hodor9851
@hodor9851 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people say the solo movie was bad. I liked it and I would recommend it!
@David_Alvarez77
@David_Alvarez77 5 жыл бұрын
I think many people were still irritated by the last jedi, and took it out on Solo. Still, while I like the movie overall, it had some bizarre elements, such as Lando's robot or the marauders. A pretty good film.
@type_s_tyler7547
@type_s_tyler7547 5 жыл бұрын
Where are you getting the footage of Solo's court martial? Is that on the Solo DVD?
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 5 жыл бұрын
Yea deleted scene
@squanchpaperboi8943
@squanchpaperboi8943 5 жыл бұрын
10 REASONS why Allen's love life is the BEST.
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, whenever we see them, even rebel starfighters are reduced to scrap with a few blasts from a TIE's laser cannon. So it's not like their shields matter. Whenever we see TIEs firing at the rebels, either the TIE fighters' laser cannons blow through the shield quickly, or they hit something sensitive and send the rebel fighters plunging to their deaths. That squad of fighters Hera brought to Lothal got wiped out by a swarm of TIEs, and we see TIEs being rather effective at mopping the floor with the rebels in the Battle of Yavin. That's why only a handful of ships escaped the Death Star's explosion. They started with thirty. They had less than five when it was over. Heck, I even tried using a TIE Fighter in Rogue Leader's Battle of Yavin, Imperial version. All you need is to corner and tail rebel starfighters and pump enough fire at them to blow them up. So long as you're good at avoiding fire and tailgating the rebels, your single TIE can wipe out a dozen rebel starfighters.
@spiderbat2533
@spiderbat2533 5 жыл бұрын
Please do the 4th Marine Battalion in Clone Wars!
@johncnorris
@johncnorris 5 жыл бұрын
I like the P-51 Mustang.
@davidmauriciogutierrezespi5244
@davidmauriciogutierrezespi5244 4 жыл бұрын
I think the philosophy of the TIE fighter pilots were "If you're not good enough to dodge the enemy fire you don't deserve to be alive" And now I can't stop laughing at the idea of a pilot (or a group of them) defecting to the Rebel Alliance, and when they're found removing the shield generator from their ships and being questioned about and the former TIE pilot replying "If you're not good enough to dodge the enemy fire you don't deserve to be alive" and then not understanding why do their new comrades have an expression of pure undiluted shock, fear, concern and utter respect for their newest recruit(s)
@shawn6860
@shawn6860 5 жыл бұрын
With the twelve days of Xmas...how about a video about the first 12 Grand admirals? the infamous "Circle of Twelve"..
@birudagreat1427
@birudagreat1427 5 жыл бұрын
Well that is demoralizing when u showed the imp officer dying
@yeetleskeet854
@yeetleskeet854 3 жыл бұрын
Tie fighter pilots piloting an A Wing would be equivalent of handing Master Chief the Infinity Gauntlet and saying have fun.
@awawawasawsawawaw
@awawawasawsawawaw 3 жыл бұрын
when the simulator pod is better than the actual ship then you know your instructor is doing something right
@NathanBuffam
@NathanBuffam 5 жыл бұрын
I like the music you had in the background but maybe try one without words it became kind of distracting
@johntorreto4485
@johntorreto4485 4 жыл бұрын
5:10- Anybody know where that is from and who those two characters are cuz they look badass
@leanmeangreenbeanmachine3347
@leanmeangreenbeanmachine3347 4 жыл бұрын
What was the footage of Han Solo footage you used from?
@fluffsquad8658
@fluffsquad8658 5 жыл бұрын
what were those clips from? The ones they used for Han?
@massielhernandez241
@massielhernandez241 3 жыл бұрын
This also works on the regular stormtroopers
@tank4024
@tank4024 5 жыл бұрын
Allen, analysis
@grimreaper6557
@grimreaper6557 5 жыл бұрын
Vader asks one of his Squaderon Leaders what he thinks they need to beat the rebals the Leader proprly says a Squaderon of Xwings =)
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