Having A Useless Padawan is Genius

Sabine Wren will be one of the first apprentices in Star Wars without a strong connection to the force. While some might see that as a bad thing, I think it will actually make for some extremely deep character development and could make the overall story much stronger.
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[@simpletown323]

I would be 100% happy seeing Sabine have the barest of force talent and being able to use what little connection she has to her benefit. Like it would be great for her to accept and find hapiness in her own abilities and rejecting the desire to self loathe for not being as strong as Ahsoka or Ezra. Would be a much needed lesson for people. Finding strength in yourself in whatever capacity you can, and still doing good for others

[@TheBenjaman]

That is what i am really hoping happens with sabine in this. The idea of a jedi with zero to none ability in the force is really interesing. Would've probably done it with a new character instead of giving sabine ANOTHER thing she is good at.

[@BargerClan]

She could use general grievous Cybornetics enhancements then she’ll be a force to be reckoned with Jedi killer

[@simpletown323]

@@TheBenjaman that's the thing tho. She's always been a fast learner and that is why she fails to be a jedi. She wants ro accelerate the process but cant due to her lack of force sensitivity. She's a natural warrior and so the hardest thing for her will be accepting her limits and finding peace in them

[@SobaOfPulaski]

I feel like she is gonna be like Chirrut Îmwe in that she had a degree of connection but not enough to be a Jedi though still enough to use to benefit and slightly enhance her combat skills.

[@Pinkorchid72]

Like just enough ability to use the force to enhance her Mandalorian warrior skill set

[@macrosense]

The Jedi would have needed a large support network. Maintenance and mechanics, financial managers, janitors

[@GenerationTech]

Youngling wranglers

[@mortalitydoesstuff8965]

​@@GenerationTechAnakin already did a pretty good job of that

[@collecter343]

Had plenty of support staff at the temple, sometimes they were failed padawans, and we didn't see them much cause they had separate corridors.

[@paradoxworkshop4659]

Shao Lin temples are run by the monks, no?

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

Honestly the fact we don't have more stories about the Jedi Service Corp. is a crying shame. As a kid I always thought the idea of washing out of Knight training and having to do work in agriculture, medicine, education, or exploration would suck, but as I've gotten older the idea of force users who are non-combatants sounds pretty rad. Like imagine a story focused around a Jedi medic who goes around the galaxy treating the sick and the injured but is constantly patronized because they aren't a knight. Or Jedi instructor who was actually once a knight but decided to retire to the Educational Corp because they decided teaching was a better way to help the galaxy than violence. But sadly the Service Corp never got a lot of love even during the pre-Disney era, and now post-Disney it seems to have been largely forgotten

[@gordonwerner]

As AHSOKA says… she doesn’t need Sabine to be a Jedi, she needs Sabine to be herself.

[@terranempire2]

And Sabine doesn’t seem to know what she wants to be.

[@tiktak3559]

she could be a badass amazing Mandalorian.

[@Fuzzmo147]

Sabines been everything, weapons expert, commander, engineer, soldier etc etc She is an exceptionally talented human… She doesn’t need the force

[@andrewbernard1911]

@@tiktak3559she’s already one of the most badass mandalorians

[@bellissimo4520]

Which makes zero sense in context. Why would she train her to be a Jedi, when she doesn't need her to be a Jedi? This is just bullshit dialogue.

[@Major98]

Rooting for Sabine to go down the Chirrut Imwe route. Only able to tap into the Force to keep focus and be a good fighter but she wont be throwing cups around anytime soon. Im also glad they are taking the issue head on

[@Pinkorchid72]

YES 💯

[@dolorusedd2586]

Rest In Power Chirrut Imwe

[@baconboi4482]

I hope Sabine can’t use the force at all, it’s give her more of an identity than just a Jedi

[@darienford860]

​@@baconboi4482that's the problem she's already had her own identity while being a Mandalorian

[@Agherosh]

​@@baconboi4482Everyone can use the force to a degree, Yoda says this to the clones.

[@MrIan1086]

If Sabine can move the cup or do the blind fighting exercise by the end of Episode 8, I will consider that a satisfactory resolution to her struggle.

[@daviddent5662]

8? I thought there were only six? Well now if we get an Andor's worth of episodes this will get interesting.

[@WinterSo1dier]

I love your outlook on Star Wars and life in general. Glad I found this channel. (Don’t know how I never stumbled across it sooner. Better late than never!)

[@CapnWatson]

I really appreciate how dedicated you are to pushing back against the very prevalent toxicity in this fandom we all love.

[@quentin6893]

The fact that this challenge is sometimes a philosophical view of our world is truly amazing. I love Star Wars so much.

[@beauporter8440]

Don't hold your breath. It's obvious from the cup scene that Sabines force powers will present at some stage. Probably episode 5.

[@paulhanck1123]

Perhaps to some degree but it's unlikely she will be unable to master the force

[@whitepaws60]

I mean I always assumed that since the force is within every living being, Everyone COULD use some force abilities with enough training and practice just no where near as easily or naturally as force sensitives.

[@captaindc3889]

Even better, episode 4

[@beauporter8440]

@@captaindc3889 lol na keep us speculating for another week 😉

[@NorthEevee]

From what we know in-lore, anyone can have some force sensitive abilities with propper training. I don't expect her to start lifting objects, but we'll probably see her make use of some precognition. And I'd be fine with that honestly.

[@presenceaboveall7882]

Bro, you inspire me man not necessarily for what you’re talking about but it’s the way you deliver your words I think you can make a lot of money being a inspirational speaker.

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

Star Wars at it core is "Hope/A Coming of Age story/The Hero's Journey/Balance". Hence Jyn Erzo, Kanan, Cassian Andor, Din Jarin, Luke, Han Solo, R2D2, etc.

[@karmadyllic]

A profound message eloquently expressed via the medium of Star Wars. My thanks. May the Force be with You.

[@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu]

Thank you so much Allen for your in-depth analysis of Star wars as always you're spot-on

[@AntonNight]

I honestly think that Sabine won’t be lifting things or performing superhuman feats. I think at most she might become like Chirrut, developing an affinity for the Force that enhances her martial skills and physical abilities (reaction time, senses, etc) through faith and spiritual discipline. In fact…I think the Jedi including non-Force Sensitives would be a great thing. It stops the Force from being this thing that is gatekeepers by genetics and lets it become this thing anyone can study and aspire to understand. Yeah, they wouldn’t be as effective as someone who can crush a droid with a thought and a gesture, but it could allow for a form of Jedi who are more humble and also expand the Order’s ranks with more warriors, diplomats, etc. In the Clone Wars we saw Mandalorian warriors deflect rapid blaster bolts with their battle staffs, and in Jedi Survivor there were Bedlam Raiders who could deflect blaster boots with lightsabers gifted to them by Gera. In short…I think it actually would be an invaluable idea for the new Jedi Order to expand to be mostly made up of people who can’t outwardly wield the Force but can still be trained to use it to still be formidable both in and outside of a fight.

[@jameslewis2635]

IMO the Jedi lost their way at the point of the schism where the study of the dark side was banned and its followers were kicked out to become the Sith because at that point (or shortly before) they lost the ability to attain balance in the force. Standing fully on one side or another of anything means that you will be upsetting the balance of said thing and as time went on the Jedi seem to have become forever more dogmatic and officious with those like Qui-Gon Jinn who decide to follow the will of the force becoming a rarity rather than the mainstay of the order. I am hopeful that within this series of Ashoka the main character and her apprentice, Sabine in their quest to find her link to the force can find the balance between light and dark that the Jedi lost in order to become more than what that lost order was.

[@johnwotek3816]

" the Jedi lost their way at the point of the schism where the study of the dark side was banned and its followers were kicked out to become the Sith because at that point (or shortly before) they lost the ability to attain balance in the force." To quote Han Solo, that's not how the Force work. The Dark side isn't and never was some other side which you can compromise and find a balance. The dark side is sheer corruption. "cause at that point (or shortly before) they lost the ability to attain balance in the force. Standing fully on one side or another of anything means that you will be upsetting the balance of said thing and as time went on the Jedi seem to have become forever more dogmatic and officious with those like Qui-Gon Jinn who decide to follow the will of the force becoming a rarity rather than the mainstay of the order." Following the will of the Force, following the politics of the Republic and following the dark side are three separate thing. "I am hopeful that within this series of Ashoka the main character and her apprentice, Sabine in their quest to find her link to the force can find the balance between light and dark that the Jedi lost in order to become more than what that lost order was." This whole grey Jedi bullhit is mostly fan fiction stuff and it's better left forgotten.

[@ironsteel6454]

when did Han Solo say that and your fanfiction bullhit is actually legends and as we have seen before Dave Filoni has brought back the legends example thrawn when did he even say about Gray Jedi@@johnwotek3816

[@Ast3rixMusic]

I really love this new Sabine Wren storyline. It’s very human and it shows that regardless of where you come from you can do great things as long as you put great focus and effort into what you do. I think we will see a growth cycle from zero to hero. It won’t be fast but it will get better. She will start to open herself like she was told and trust it. Totally agree with you regarding dogma and how it keeps people from just understanding the core concepts morality. At our core morality is something that keeps us from being wild animals. We at our best are peaceful beings that have a capacity to love.

[@SWGunna_602]

Dude. I totally agree with this video. My take has always been Disney/lucasfilm literally doesn’t have to give us anything to watch, they aren’t obligated to. And before anyone says anything, yes I know, Disney loves money. I’m not saying the shows and movies aren’t flawed but they are great and enjoyable. I’m grateful to have content to watch, I don’t understand why others aren’t. And with the strike going on, who knows what we will get and when we will get it

[@skyden24195]

Well said, Generation Tech. During the second episode when Sabine was about to be ambushed after she had taken the map from Ahsoka, I honestly felt that Sabine should be/would be defeated by the dark apprentice (forget her name at this moment) so I was more satisfied with how the show was going to portray Sabine's abilities rather than, as pointed out, suddenly being all lightsaber powerful. Fighting an untrained Mandalorian with the Dark Saber is one thing, fighting a Sith-trained assassin is another.

[@ClintHollingsworth]

That was an exceptional commentary. Kudos to you!

[@Glotaku]

Rock Lee is one of the most beloved characters in Star Wars

[@jaron95]

This video is an important message and a fitting call-out.

[@kristophermyers1908]

This is one of the best takes on Star Wars I’ve seen in a long time.

[@mendo35]

Wise words from master Alan.

[@theangryMD]

Very insightful observation that Hu-Yang is a perfect proxy for the Jedi Order, underscoring the flaws of an Order that felt it was the 'good guys'. George Lucas has always been clear that Star Wars is essentially a fairy tale with a fairly straightforward good vs. evil narrative. As audicences have grown, matured, and become more nuanced Star Wars has had to evolve content to remain relatable as well.

[@KingCobraLolcow]

It makes for a good plot point

[@hodorsheroes2829]

Yes this is exactly what I’m talking about! Fully agree @gen tech.

[@louieknowles3481]

I think it would be good if she does something minor that has a major impact, maybe pressing a button with the force that blows up a ship, or releases ahsoka so she can do the heavy lifting. But showing that she did it, shes worthy and capable no matter how small the feat

[@sentientmop317]

I know it's not cannon anymore but was re-reading the plaguis novel and there is a line that I think is important about midichlorians and the force. "A common misconception held that midi-chlorians were Force-carrying particles, when in fact they functioned more as translators, interlocutors of the will of the Force" Inate ability and midi-chlorians count just means you have an advantage in the force with learning it. Not that it is impossible.

[@JoeIPA]

I’ve loved Mando, Ashoka and Andor. I love when Star Wars is done right in my opinion. I hope every fans gives them all a chance.

[@patriclosjameson5230]

That is the hardest thing about being a Star Wars fan. A friend once cautioned me "hate it if you want but if Disney fails you won't get the books back. You'll get silence for many years. No one will enjoy that no matter what they say." Sometimes i think he's a nuter but honestly he's not wrong. We need to support what is here and as our host above advised: not rely on guides or hearsay. Only what see and experience. Truly all fandoms should embrace this. I didn't overly like what Rings of Power did but I didn't just say "It's vile and because this site said it's bad I'm not watching it". We let other's informed opinions decide things for us too much.

[@diegovillacreses7071]

I think this is the best summary of what Star Wars is. Thank you!

[@ChoseeComprende]

2:45 ... true, its not what Filoni did ... yet! And that the thing that frightens me beyond measure. If he really manage to keep Sabine as she is ... i would love it. But there is still that fear (for lack of better term) that at some story important point, she sudently become extremely powerfull bcs she "finaly opened to the Force" ... just like Rey did, just like Obi-Wan did, just like basicaly every Anime character did in last few decades ... writer needs a power-up, so character gets a power-up. :-/

[@10Tabris01]

I don't know if anyone here read Dark Rendezvous, but there was a character who was barely force sensitive enough to be a Jedi, and she was awesome

[@nathanvreeland8761]

One of the best videos I’ve seen in awhile

[@OUTSIDER40]

May the force be with you

[@RealCaptainAwesome]

Faloni may have the story planned unlike Disney but his direction is like Lucas and he needs a guiding hand to help him in his direction and for the love of the Force, make light sabers deadly again!

[@lerneanlion]

No matter how many times I saw that Sabine gets stabbed with lightsaber scene, I always wondered how the heck did she survive that. Sure, it did not pierce her vital organ. But the point is that the wound that the lightsaber caused also burned both inside and outside of her fleshes. This will caused the permanent scar on the outside and it will created this burned wound that will be considered as the gangrene as well. And gangrene is anything but good.

[@astra6640]

Eh, firstly she received almost instant medical aid as Ahsoka was already headed there and the city is like, next door, secondly they have stuff like Bacta in Star Wars, and lastly... I mean, a lightsaber blade tends to leave unrealistically small marks for what it is, so going by that logic, it's not like half of her body was cooked on the inside. If no vital organs were hit, I'm pretty sure you could fix a hole that size in someone irl too, if they got to a qualified hospital quickly enough. I mean, I'm almost certain there's been people impaled with way bigger things than a saber blade who survived. Funnily enough the cauterisation from the heat might be a contributing factor to survivability rather than lethality, since it helps reduce blood loss from the injury. In terms of overall logic, it can make sense. Now, whether we want to allow it with prior lore... that is up for debate. Then again, we even have Maul surviving with literally half of his body in TCW. Considering that the show is a continuation of Rebels, which had major tie-ins from TCW, all of this is pretty much in line with what we know. I think the only question is whether that befits live action or not, but given Disney's handling of things like that so far, I think they are absolutely putting it in live action in general, so at least Sabine's case isn't unique.

[@Toliman.]

@@astra6640 The saber is controlled plasma. If it can cut through a blast door, walls, floor, stone, it can cut through a person much, much faster. and does. Ahsoka cuts through Stone floors, Metal Droids with almost zero resistance, bone will not nearly be as tough. The story is telling you that lightsabers are extremely strong at cutting Metal, Stone. And now, People. The danger is if you start to read-into or produce your own story to explain events. The story intends for Sabine to be severely harmed for dramatic purpose, and shows the lightsabers as effectively lethally sharp, able to cut metal, stone like butter. If you make Sabine special, make her Resilient or give her healing, is it because she's Mandalorian ? if so, does that apply to Dinn and other Mandalorians who cover themselves thoroughly with Body Armor for ... aesthetics. The core issue is that they have 'nerfed' the effective threat of the Sith because they want the story to give the characters plot armor, or to make the Sith sympathetic, i.e. it's a 'training scar' and really, Hati isn't evil, she's just Blonde, sic. If you are now saying that people can survive being impaled, or that you want to read this wound as merciful, coming from Shin Hati as a Sith/Apprentice, go ahead. It's not as if it matters because we'll likely never get her backstory or flashback. The story needs to explain that Shin Hati is showing Mercy, for you to read that as being merciful. Because... it's not apparent that she is attempting to be 'kind' given how earlier in the episode, she cuts through several New Republic security staff off-camera very quickly. The common denominator is Disney reducing the lethality of Lighsabers to get past ESRB/MPAA ratings for violence, also makes the show cheaper to produce. Given that the opening scene of the show, Shin Hati is cutting through people with her lightsaber... in a friendly way ... maybe they all survived. One even has a "leg wound" despite being 'unconscious' and lying on the floor. Not that it really affects streaming, but it does present additional factors if you can't 'sell' star wars to children. The consistency is a problem for people who saw the prequels, it also makes the movies in which lightsaber battles took place. If you think it's about being able to access a medic, then people who have Lightsabers would also keep a medical kit handy, if their occupational hazard is dealing with people who fight with lightsabers. Maybe all of those Security staff who were shot and stabbed ... got medical assistance. Being impaled is not something that you should be able to 'walk away from' in any sense. Being stabbed through, is a non-trivial injury that would injure several organs in the body, and also sever stomach muscles needed to stand up, sit, et al. If you want to try and justify this in SW Lore... go ahead. The problem is, you also have to mix the "bloodless" Snoke severing scene in TLJ ... while also justifying the Darth Maul reconstruction of his lower torso. Fatality seems to be Story related, not Medically related. Especially the Inquisitor surviving being stabbed in the stomach. Hence why Obi-Wan, has Reva stabbed twice, and the Inquisitor impaled more than once. Fennec Shand has her stomach replaced, Luke has a hand replaced, Maul has his entire torso replaced, Palpatine survived a veritable nuclear explosion (maybe Sheev used the force to break a hole through the second death star and flew through empty space ... because Leia could. And he ran away, destroying his own Death Star, instead of flying up and resuming the fight with Vader and Luke...)

[@sithguitarist698]

Bring me Ezra Bridger!

[@baybears9507]

These videos are TOO good, Thanks

[@andrewstarbard535]

Right on. I have unsubbed from other sw channels because their toxicity became unbearable. Keep up the good work!

[@blackc1479]

Im actually getting a little codex alera vibe with this. Which could be cool, especially if they skip the latter parts for this version. Though even that might take a while to do right. I guess technically theyve got a head start considering everything previous, but this would have to be a whole new phase. Or she could just get a yslarmi and then headbutt any force users that honk her off....

[@creeperking6863]

Star wars has pretty much everything a fan can love badass robot spaceships a guy that hates sand badass heroes and the comedic relief from really cool stuff

[@dicksoncider5099]

The fact they have a character state that Ezra was better than Sabine is proof that she will become stronger or just as strong. Watch

[@karlrovey]

I wonder if Sabine will wind up with abilities similar to the Halcyon family in Legends. The men in that line couldn't use telekinetic abilities unless they had absorbed energy from external sources, but were skilled with absorbing energy and with mind trick illusions.

[@clearskiesgaming2451]

13:30 to end very insightful. It has become a truth that’s become very apparent in todays society. It’s something I struggle with; comparing myself to others. The end goal of life is just to keep moving forward and improving yourself daily.

[@billfrehe6620]

I'd hardly say Sabine Wren is useless or lacks talent. She's not force sensitive sufficiently enough to have become a Jedi, but she's highly skilled in combat and probably more force sensitive than the average person in the Star Wars universe.

[@jamesfennell4224]

I hope you're right. But at the moment all I can see is a character who was already a proven warrior in her own right being made to look ridiculous. I hope I'm proven wrong in the end but at the moment I'm sceptical.

[@KyloStimpy]

"there's always a bigger fish" ~ Qui Gon Jinn

[@mlubecke]

Amen brother…. Well stated

[@Waiting4theend]

3:24 Lies! Deception!

[@westrim]

0:27 BRB, off to write an alt-fic where Ben is ACTUALLY the forbidden love child of Luke and Leia.

[@CounterLink]

i can hear your birds in the background, i like birds :)

[@JoducusKwak]

my thought even if she only manages to gain the bare minimal of force ability to be called a Jedi if she pulls thru and becomes a Jedi Master she might become a great teacher because she didnt have Force Sensitivity and needed to learn to learn and train from the ground up maybe giving her a greater understanding of the Force in turn

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

Dave Filoni is 100% committed to destroying all established Star Wars canon. Undoing all achievements of the characters from the past. Ahsoka is not a Jedi master, therefore she can never train Sabine to become a Jedi. Besides destroying all prior rules as to who can master the force, now saying it can be done through focus and training- the character of Sabine that’s been established in this show is NOT some disciplined, dedicated person who deserves to be the one to rewrite Star Wars lore.

[@benpayne677]

They should have a series with Chirrut and his order. Their antagonist could be the Sith Eternal leading them to Jedha where they encounter the rest of Rogue One crew. With the Guardian of the Whills gone they are able to resurrect Darth Sidious.

[@mikemalo47]

Sabin isn't useless she is a mandolrien. And has welded the dark saber

[@ghostface4404]

she's has the potential to go beyond the others f she can successfully unite both cultures.

[@terryharrigan6324]

Great wisdom, Padawan

[@mithonig6553]

I mean Corran Horn, one of the best lightsaber combatants the Jedi Order ever had and a master of the Mindtrick was completely incapable of even the most basic telekinesis. So i think we can cut Sabine some slack for not having the most talent in one or two disciplines.

[@VadersHomie]

Great take!

[@jcummi1937]

The force is still integral to what a Jedi is though, without the force, your just a good person. Jedi is not a synonymous with good, it's a way of life, rules to live by and being and to use the force. I was on board with everything until we got to the part when she "doesn't need the force to be a Jedi" that's just flat out not true and not how they operate. The force is integral to the position.

[@bigreaderpike]

You know they did do a story slightly like this with Timothy Zahn it was a duology about throwing also we learned about the sort of months the tide of normal guy how to use Force powers and he's not like the most powerful guy but he can do some interesting things that most Jedi can't do it took him twenty years to learn

[@khaoss4024]

She should lightsaber blasted stance. That would be cool asf

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

Andor is worth watching for the prison break episodes the most! That was brilliant. For Ahsoka, we need to have Ezra returned as soon as possible, that could improve the dynamics and dialogue of this series. Sabrine and Ahsoka are very serious, we need some more fun.

[@bgcvetan]

I feel Ashoka plays with her luck given Sabine track record.

[@darwinskeeper421]

Actually, having Sabine struggle to learn the ways of the Force makes her and her story more interesting. The one thing I hated about Rey in the sequel trilogy is how easily she mastered the Force. Beyond the matter of, as Han Solo once put it, "That's not how the Force works." It just made her story flat. It was Luke's struggles and missteps that made The Empire Strikes Back what it was. Sabine's struggles and mistakes will make her story one that we may want to remember.

[@SerBoomboy]

I don’t even know how Sabine got stabbed by that light saber when she already had light saber training in Star Wars rebels

[@josephivenegas]

Training without regular practice gets not good fast.

[@zionmarcelo]

sabine may be called an 'apprentice' but not a padawan, a padawan is strictly used for jedi in training who have graduated from 'youngling' after years of indoctrination and training under the jedi system/ organization, and a padawan must be under a 'full jedi', ahsoka was kicked out of the jedi organization and as she herself said, she is not a jedi, the term jedi is not a generic term for all 'good sided force users'

[@MrTausn]

😂😂😂 you bastard!! I love you man!

[@NekoUrabe]

To be super honest after the sequel trilogy I stopped caring about everything. I did see the end of clone wars since it was pre Disney. I didn’t see any of the spin offs, but I did randomly find your videos and have always enjoyed what you bring to them.

[@udontknowme00]

I agree with a lot of what you said at the beginning about the Star Wars fanbase and discourse online. Star Wars fans are always so MISERABLE, and instead of just saying "I dislike this thing, I am not going to engage with or think about it anymore", they go on a crusade to every single video and tweet and forum post on the internet and have to let everyone know they're an idiot for liking this thing, or that they think Disney has ruined Star Wars (except for that one time they didn't with that one show because they liked that show), or that the new thing is actually "woke trash" because all of the protagonists are women, or whatever else they want to complain about. And that's not to say that a lot of modern Star Wars doesn't deserve criticism, because it definitely does, but some people seem to base their entire personality on how much they HATE Star Wars while also calling themselves a diehard fan. I hated the sequel trilogy of movies. You know what I did when I walked out of the theater? I said "Damn that sucked" and then never thought about it again, didn't engage in online discourse about it, and just moved on, because my limited time on this planet is too valuable for me to spend it just talking about things I hate. I love Star Wars. Sure I don't love ALL of it, but if I don't like a show or movie, there's plenty of Star Wars out there for me to just move on to and grab onto that thing instead. I wish Star Wars fans could just learn to dislike a thing like a normal person instead of making it their mission to be the most insufferable and miserable people on the planet.

[@ZeldagigafanMatthew]

The only issue I have with Andor is that it's a really slow start.

[@jeghaterdegforfaen]

I think it's interesting that a person with no talent in the Force is being trained as a Jedi. Sabine may not be able to use the Force like a Jedi, but she could still act like one, and possibly train others too. And as a matter of principal, gaging a prospective Jedi by how powerful they could become seems more like Sith ideology when you think about it. And my personal theory about the Force is that the more powerful you are, the higher the risk of falling to the Dark Side. I.e. you feel the potential within you, and drawing on anger and hate will help you reach that potential quickly. Someone with no potential won't benefit by giving in. Sabine can either be patient or she can quit, and given that all living creatures has at least some connection to the Force, she may develop some modest skill eventually. Perhaps proving once and for all that the Light Side really is stronger, because ultimately, patience and discipline will award her more than untempered passion could.

[@nikolasclancy6757]

I think non force sensitive Jedi are an interesting concept

[@japrogramer]

Why did the robots announce the self destruct sequence and why was it so slow?

[@joesteadman1014]

You just earned my Sub

[@drew-horst]

That definitely looks like a Phub thumbnail

[@mr_h831]

Your opinion of HuYang changed drastically in later episodes. XD

[@joshfactor1]

well, in all fairness, it's not like she had a wide selection of padawans to choose from

[@badgamemaster]

One of the few people I knows that watches the show really like the idea of Sabine becoming a Jedi if she still the "weakest" Jedi, but his only problem is that she should be dead.

[@morten2952]

I needed you to say that thanks

[@michaellahanas2038]

I have always struggled with your brand of humor, which has always struck me as off key and insensitive, but I have to give you props where props is due: Star Wars is perhaps the most toxic existing fandom, and your entreat to make up your own mind is sorely needed.

[@jaffarebellion292]

I don't hate Star Wars. Star Wars ended for me after 2014. Because to me, Star Wars is 1-6 and the EU (not counting TCW. Nothing against it, but it just breaks too much established canon for me to consider it a part of the same universe). I couldn't care less about the new stories Disney is putting out because the stories and characters I love are over. Nothing new will be done with them, save to poach them to win back fan goodwill. Andor, regardless of quality, failed to make bank because people were checked out of Star Wars at that point. As the old adage goes, "Apathy is death." I think I'm about done unless the Expanded Universe is unburied and the original creative talent is put back in charge.

[@Thestrangebrit]

I'm watching bad batch rn and in exited for the ahsoka series

[@feralprocessor9853]

Hu Yang = Jedi Master Grievous

[@captainpool2cool663]

I believed that's where filoni is heading with the story of both ahsoka and sabine. Huyang is following is programming wich is very orthodoxe and exclude everything that don't fit in the doctrine that is the jedi order. Sabine is learning trough orthodoxe method and Ahsoka realised that she is still using jedi's doctrine to instruct Sabine and she has to change her way to fit with her apprentice. Like in the episode 3 were Ahsoka as to relied on sabine instructions to destroy the ships. Ahsoka and Sabine have to learned eachother's methods to become more reliable to one another

[@brianschlicher59]

Alan i love your channel, but this Sabine padawan plot is hard to swallow. We know that a master padawan relationship was between a jedi and their apprentice. Even if we accepted Ahsoka was trying a new thing Ahsoka left the Jedi order and shows no interest in being a jedi. The great thing about rebels was we already had a new age jedi apprentice relationship with Kanan and Ezra. The rest of the phoenix squad was a Mandalorian, a badass pilot, and a lasat captain. Their strenths overlapped each others weaknesses to make one great rebel cell. I feel that Dave Filoni is trying to hard to make Sabine an epic character instead of letting her stand on her strenths (Mandalorian fighting, art, explosives) and weaknesses (Ezra, belonging, her Clan).

[@balista4]

When are we getting a live action Hondo? We need Hondo.

[@Thechannelthatexistsforcontent]

Hey what is generation tech think about Ben 10 aliens

[@zakiutruto]

Sabine is far from useless

[@metastatic746]

I think Huyang is doing a Mr Miyagi on Sabine

[@fliplife67]

Well for since the bad guys don’t know.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Can someone please remind me where Professor Hu Yang was during the Galactic Civil War?

[@briansieve]

I love Rosario and I adore Ahsoka. But why is she playing Ahsoka like a kid grounded from chocolate medicated by 8 bars of Klonopin?

[@kirby7294]

I'm fine with Sabine not being able to use the force, because as Huyang says, she can't. I don't know about you, but I'd listen to the droid that's been serving the Jedi over the entirety of the 25,000+ year old existence minus 5 years, over the padawan that never finished her training when it comes to matters of the force. That being said, why can Sabine no longer do anything? Fire a blaster, work a ship turret, fight with a sword, which she could do in Rebels because Kanan and Ezra taught her. It's been a while, but she fought Gar Saxon with a lightsaber and won. Why has she just forgotten how to fight? I feel this is an OVERCORRECTION for Rey and it's hurting the show for me.

[@josephivenegas]

Shin Hati has the Dark side and ongoing fencing experience with her master. Who knows the last time Sabine (now) or Gar Saxon (then) crossed blades with anyone? As for why Sabine grabs the lightsaber instead of her gun when pursuing the assassin droids... IDK, instinct? Maybe she just really wanted to use Ezra's weapon to retrieve Ezra's map? And even if she did have her gun, Sabine already knows better than to shoot at a Sith. Plus, this whole show seems built on Sabine's confidence as a Jedi warrior, and has yet to internalize a fusion of both her fighting styles, which might be harder than it seems, since Mando and Jedi philosophies have always clashed. That and Ahsoka is the number one person in the galaxy more stubborn than Sabine, and not to be mean, a very different teacher than Kanan. Her struggle to master both of these identities is a mountain she'll have to tackle throughout this series.

[@bmatsumoto8801]

Thank you for voicing the things in my head. I disagree and agree with you at the same time

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

Well I hope Sabine will have some Force abilities that never found from Jedis or Siths.

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

Sebine wasn't just traded by Asoka. That poor war criminal has been tried by Kanan Jarrus AND Ezra. And failed badly. She is GOOD for a mandalorian but.. not the best there either. She's not as good a pilot as sendula, not as good a fighter as most of the other Mando's, what she was good at was... explosives, blowing things up, spray painting, and... of course, making weapons of mass destruciton.

[@jameszombies7093]

Is Santhe shipyards, related to Kared santhe in darth plaguies

[@deusanti]

To me Luke Skywalker is Star wars and without him it feels like they missed the mark. I read over a one hundred Novels in the Expanded Universe for decades. When they started to make the movie again I felt like they took all those years of my vision of Star Wars and just trampled into the ground. Read the EU books and tell me how Disney is soo much better. It is shallow and so political that it might has well been an infomercial on how to hate Men. The Books really had endearing characters like Leia's children Jacen, Jaina and Anakin. Their stories were epic in scope and their Characters were amazing. Luke also falls in love, Mara Jade who I might add was actually an assassin sent by the Emperor to kill Luke. They also had a child, Ben of course named after Obi-Wan Kenobi pseudonym Ben. It has so much potential for the screen yet Disney said no, they rather make movies all based on an Ideology that Men are Evil by nature and women are pure. To me this is not Star Wars, it is Social Wars.

[@andyb1653]

I think they're sort of doing "Rey in reverse" with Sabine. Many people complained that Rey was incredibly powerful, but received next to no training (even some folks who liked the character). Sabine isn't particularly powerful at all, and is going to need ALL the training. They both sell the message "anyone can be a Jedi", but Sabine is going to do it in a more believable way, she's gonna have to put some serious effort in.

[@Psichlo1]

I think it was a valid criticism. Luke was supposed to be this great Jedi, and we get to travel with him through his failures and eventual mastery of the force. There was no such journey for Rey, she was just better than anyone else because she was. That's bad storytelling, and if Disney doesn't get some competent writers soon, the entire property will collapse.

[@harth1026]

I would like to see a duel between Sabine and Rey with Sabine beating the snot out of Rey.

[@AdmiralYeti8042]

Sabine without Jedi training is still a tough warrior to handle in combat. Give her even the basest level of Jedi training and a pitiful amount of force sensitivity and she may never be a good Jedi but one hell of a tough Mandalorian to beat in a fight.

[@darienford860]

This wouldn't be a reverse. Even with Anakin being labeled as the chosen one he needed all the training, it's not about that, this is just another underwhelming storyline from Starwars to try and forcefully turn a Mandalorian into a Jedi because Disney Starwars is simply running out of ideas and the audience is showing that

[@Golems_victory]

Rey wasn’t that powerful lol. She lifted some rocks that’s it. She was strong to do that since at the time the force had her as a balance and counter to kylo ren. It’s actually ok what Disney did, it actually makes sense story wise and has been explained by others already.

[@PlugInRides]

The underlying criticism of The Jedi was that they had weakened themselves through their politics, orthodoxy and dogma. The Jedi were defeated because Yoda could not comprehend the Sith threat, until it was too late.

[@sabrevinver4062]

yup, they also believed that the force could see all things bad they overestimated its ability

[@boxcar9407]

Yes! Developing your own opinion is so important! Difficult skill to grow too.

[@andyb1653]

I think both are true, they don't contradict each other really. In fact, the 1st problem was probably a major factor in the 2nd.

[@RELAXcowboy]

With the direction Ahsoka is going, there NEEDS to be a story that follows Yoda's Jedi upbringing. It is being teased that Yoda's teachings make great yet unorthodox Jedi. Why? What was it about Yoda that made it this way? Did Yoda know something that no one else did? Did he comprehend the Prophecy better than anyone could have realized and knew or at least felt what was coming? Was he "Bad" for the Jedi and lead to the Younglings with increased arrogance as described by him in the Clone Wars show? There is too much Pre Skywalker Saga timeline info that we just don't know. The future was clouded by the dark side, so he couldn't....shit. It clicked as I was typing this. Yoda is almost 900 years old at the time of his death. after 800 years, Yoda probably fell into a pattern. He likely is the reason why Jedi like Luke and Ahsoka "Figured it out" but at the same time was likely unable to change the course the Order was heading (coupling with the republic and being the Pinkertons for the Republic). He trained younglings in the true Jedi fashion but when thrust into the universe, they were made to do things that likely made them feel conflicted like it was against their code, all in the name of "Peace" for the Republic. This is why 3 out of 4 of his line did not follow the Orders teachings faithfully and some even turned against it. The one that did(Kenobi), likely only did because his Master was killed before Qui-Gon could guide him on the 3rd part of his journey of being a Jedi Knight on his own (Youngling>Padawan>Jedi Knight/Master Killed>Jedi Master. When he finally became a knight it was because his master found another Apprentice and not because his training reached it's natural conclusion, then Qui-Gon dies and he is forced to take on a Padawan before he can even learn to be himself. I feel like the Knight stage is the key stage that makes a Jedi into what he/she becomes and Obi didn't get a chance to do that so he ended up leaning on the failing council for guidance.)

[@RELAXcowboy]

@@sabrevinver4062 what? Yoda clearly told everyone in the movies that the future is clouded by the dark side of the force. The more time went on, the closer Sidious came to power, the harder it became for the Jedi to see what was coming. Their failing was that they became set in their ways and failed to do what they were meant to do and instead did what they were told by the republic.