How to make an Extended 50ft Natural Gas Hose for GENMAX GM10500iETC

[@elizabethwhite4606]

Gavin, thank you very much for the links and the detailed instructions to create the extended hose. Thank you also for information on the gas leak detector device.

[@rwstarke]

My wife is my gas leak detector device.

[@jackspence7779]

Excellent video sir! Took the guess work right out of it for me (I now have the necessary 50 ft hose to run my emergency generator). Many thanks and may our Lord and Savior, King Jesus bless and keep you!

[@GeneratorReviews]

Thanks 🙏🏾

[@Mbartel500]

You don't need teflon tape on the beveled side of the connector. The beveled male side has to seat hard against the beveled female side so there won't be any gas getting to the threads themselves. Of course the flat side does need the tape.

[@jeffreyhalet9632]

You can also use soapy dish water like Dawn dish soap mixed with a little water and put it on joints and look for bubbles, works every time!

[@GeneratorReviews]

Yep 👍🏾

[@allegory7638]

Or just spray Windex on it.

[@Lego-fs2de]

You should really step up to a larger diameter hose when going over 50’. Flow loss over extended lengths and every turn or bend in the line is significant. I would have gone with a 1” or 3/4” tee off the main gas line connected to at least a 3/4” line for the first 50’ and then maybe stepped down to the provided 25’ line that came with the generator. You may not have noticed and flow loss when running the generator at first but when you put a load on and your other gas appliances kick on the generator will begin to starve.

[@GH-wt7ww]

Great video, LOL I'm the one who needs over 75 ft of hose. Gas meter at the front of the house and need the genny to go the back yard.

[@harryinoklahoma1866]

My leak detector is my nose. Man you can really smell that additive they put in NG. Thanks for the video Gavin.

[@GeneratorReviews]

😅🤣🤪Yep!! you can smell that thing miles away.

[@juliosarmiento6703]

Thanks for this video friend! Information online is all over the place and had my head spinning just to hook up my trifuel generator to the connection I have in my back yard.

[@Undine-t7i]

To use a ¾” gas hose rather than ½”, what changes? Not clear the impact of having a 1/2" propane/NG inlet on the generator when using a 3/4" hose. The main natural gas house supply that I will be adding a tee is 1". Can tell my plumber what size quick connect I want on the house side. For optimal generator performance, should the the quick connect on the house side be larger (1” or ¾”) in conjunction with the larger ¾” gas hose? Not sure if a suitable hose exists or how it must be adapted to fit the ½” inlet on the generator. Guidance greatly appreciated.

[@GeneratorReviews]

I had a customer who installed a 1 inch natural gas line and overwhelmed the generator regulator half inch is recommended 3/4 is preferred

[@Undine-t7i]

@@GeneratorReviews Thanks. Then will use 3/4" for a) the female quick connect on the house NG supply side and b) the NG hose. Still confused as to what the adapter(s)/parts are needed to connect the 3/4 gas hose female quick connect to the 1/2 male inlet on the Pulsar PGD105TiSCO Tri-Fuel Inverter Generator. Anyone done this or can identify the correct parts?

[@bobstellmacher1642]

Would like to see a similar installation for a Champion Bi-Fuel (LP & Gasoline). Champion provides only a hose and regulators for direct 20LB propane tank hookup. The generator inlet is 3/8 Female Quick Connect with a safety barb. Seems Champion wants to make DIY connections more difficult. They offer no 20 foot or longer hose.

[@Crazyuncle1]

Thank you so much great video. You’re the only one I’ve found that describes the adapter I need to connect the quick disconnect. Furthermore I greatly appreciate you getting down to business without any clowning around. I was looking for a solution to my problem not entertainment. Keep up the good work, sir.🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠

[@GeneratorReviews]

Thanks for watching and subscribing

[@Crazyuncle1]

@@GeneratorReviews. Good morning, Gavin. I have a Westinghouse Wgen 10500 tri fuel generator and when I hook it up to NG it won’t run. Tech support said it’s getting too much gas and is flooding. She said normal house pressure is 2psi and the generator needs .2 to .4 psi. I installed a regulator rated 2psi in and .4psi out and it still doesn’t run. It wants to start but back fires and stops. Do you have any suggestions? As a DIY I want to avoid the cost of calling a plumber. Thank You!

[@skip9607]

Nice, but it would have been better if you had load tested it with that long hose!

[@avguytx4361]

So is there a 25' LPG hose included with this generator or is it that usual short one?

[@GeneratorReviews]

Yes, it has a 25 foot included

[@robbiedarby2312]

Great video, i was told by a plumber i would need a 3/4" line. Thanks for sharing and confirming a 1/2" wiil be sufficient

[@mosescastillo1371]

Yes, everywhere i check on-line. It says to use a 3/4" line because i will be going at least 70' from my meter to my generator.

[@SteveG325]

Great video. Is the new hose thicker than the included one or is my perception off ? Also do you know what WC that 10500 generator needs?

[@GeneratorReviews]

It’s the exact same hose absolutely zero difference

[@OKBAOK]

I like the idea of long hose👍 I like ur backyard is big ang clean 👍I like ur generator it’s quiet 👍 thanks for this video u did a good job 👏👍🙂

[@GeneratorReviews]

Thanks 😊

[@Moondoggy1941]

If you use soap and water and a rag, just make sure to wash it down it plain water. A leak is forming bubbles not just bubbles.

[@AdamKelly-l3m]

Did you have to upgrade your gas meter for this? Everywhere I see this suggested. I have the AC250 gas meter which is pretty standard for Houston, just not sure if it has the output for a natural gas generator.

[@GeneratorReviews]

No, I did not have to update my gas meter I’m using just half-inch line

[@steffiejoe]

I have the standard AR250 gas meter and I was wondering if I needed to update mine. My meter is in the front side of my house and my 50 amp inlet is located back left side.

[@jfender8023]

Why not a regulator from the tap at the house?

[@juliocs5483]

You have a video of your solar panel system?

[@GeneratorReviews]

Yes, I have a video of my solar panel and wind turbine Check out my channel videos.

[@vertigo_one]

Did you measure the water column at that distance? No way it's providing enough pressure at 50' for 1/2".

[@chrisheinz6075]

Hey Gavin - your videos are great and are helping me make some decisions for my next generator purchase. My question: What is the difference in the Genmax Inverter 10500 generator and the 11000 Inverter generator? The specs look the same to me except the 11000 has a higher starting amps rating. Do you have an opinion on which one to go with. I'm definitely going to get an Inverter Tri Fuel generator. Also, do I need a 1/2" natural gas line to supply the generator? If I run two 10500 or 11000 generators in parallel, will 1/2" NG supply line going into a tee be adequate to supply both? I do not have a two pound gas meter. Thanks so much for any guidance you can provide!

[@GeneratorReviews]

The Genmax 10500 and the Genmax 11,000 pretty much the same Generator one is just sold at Sam’s Club

[@GlennGodshall]

I thought thread tape should NOT be used with the flared fitting.

[@rwstarke]

Correct.

[@johnnyhotrod]

Yep,he only used it on the NPT side of the fitting

[@GlennGodshall]

@@johnnyhotrod @ 2:57 he had tape on the flared threads as he begins threading it to the hose. Then he adds tape to the NP threads.

[@johnnyhotrod]

I stand corrected,he did use it on both ends.Tape should not be used on flared fittings,good catch.

[@GeneratorReviews]

I didn’t cover the flared

[@alejandrocarrillo373]

Do you prefer a longer gas line or a longer power cord? My electrical panel and gas meter are on opposite corners of the house.

[@GeneratorReviews]

I would prefer a longer gas line, it’s cheaper and no power line loss

[@GeneratorReviews]

Great question 👍🏾

[@steveddavis]

Great "how to"! Thanks for all the topics you cover.

[@GeneratorReviews]

Thanks 🙏🏾

[@jerryjean-baptiste6859]

Great Video, you explained everything well- much appreciated

[@GeneratorReviews]

Thanks for watching and you’re welcome

[@Moondoggy1941]

I would be interested in seeing the old oil change from a gene that only used propane or natural gas. I know the oil looks bleak out of a gene with gasoline.

[@schwarz6337]

Have you done any pressure drop calculations for the additional length? At one point I was considering a Generac 22KW permanent installation and because of window clearances I was going to have to locate it about 50' from my natural gas meter. My natural gas pressure is 7"H2O (.25 PSI) and in order to get enough volume at that length I would have needed to run a 1-1/4" line.

[@steveglave35]

May sound like a dumb question, but if I have someone add a connection to my gas line to power my generator will I still be able to use my other gas appliances while my generator is running? water heater, furnace?

[@GeneratorReviews]

Absolutely of course

[@steveglave35]

​@@GeneratorReviews thanks

[@mosescastillo1371]

Is it ok to put two 25ft hoses together??

[@GeneratorReviews]

Yes

[@BradJenson-n8c]

What are the specs on your natural gas company service? I contacted mine and it is 300K BTUs Input/Hour at 6"water column. They told me I would need to upgrade my service if required for the inverter. I am reading the questions and cautions about not having enough gas pressure with a 50' hose - but if your gas pressure is high than mine, then I wonder if my 6" water column is enough. I am doing the preplanning before I purchase the inverter so I can't currently just give a try and see. Thanks for any confirmation you can provide regarding your gas service level.

[@GeneratorReviews]

The generator only require 35,000 BTU

[@BradJenson-n8c]

@@GeneratorReviews Thanks for responding to my question, but I'm confused. I would appreciate your take on this. In a Genmax owner forum I asked about the BTU specs on this particular model. Someone provided this answer. ---> "Page 33 of the Genmax manual lists natural gas consumption in cubic meters per hour. A cubic meter is 35.3 cubic feet and a cubic foot is 1,039 BTU (let's just say 1,000). NG consumption at 25% load is 1.296 cubic meters per hour per the manual, which is 46 cubic feet per hour or 46,000 BTU per hour. NG consumption at 100% load is 3.27 cubic meters per hour, 115 cubic feet per hour or 115,000 BTU per hour."

[@nitrodoc]

Can I also use that hose for propane?

[@GeneratorReviews]

I guess with the right adapter you could

[@digitalnorbs]

Whats typically recommended for a generator, 1/2 or 3/4? Thx

[@GeneratorReviews]

1/2 is recommended

[@gordiehattrick]

Nice video Gavin! Quick question, I have a NG outlet for my BBQ grill about 50 feet away from my Generator location. Do you think it would flow enough NG to run the Genmax 10500iETC????

[@GeneratorReviews]

Yes, it would be enough and the generator comes with the adapter you need for the quick connect. www.gavins-garage.com/product/genmax-gm10500ietc-tri-fuel-portable-inverter-generator/

[@tikkin11]

Is there a formula or reference regarding hose diameter to length to generator engine fuel requirement?

[@GeneratorReviews]

I know that the BTU ratings on this generator is 30,000 BTUs I don’t know if there’s a formula but I have tested it over 50 feet with full load and it works perfectly fine. Let us know if you find something.

[@AvgRichard]

Obviously the fuel consumption spec provided by Genmax is wrong. They might sell more generators, if they correct their data.

[@jfender8023]

Plumbers are telling me I need to change /add a natural gas regulator on my Westinghouse gen . Opinions ?

[@GeneratorReviews]

Why??

[@GeneratorReviews]

These plumbers say anything to get paid. They’re worse than electricians and mechanics. 😆

[@jfender8023]

@@GeneratorReviews I assume distance . I’m going to need a little over 100 ft hose ( natural gas plumbing one side and generator / receptacle and electrical panel on the other side of the house .

[@nguton7735]

Can you parallel 2 of Genmax 10500 runing NG? Does NG supply enough for 2 Generator?

[@GeneratorReviews]

Yes I have seen it done and it works

[@machaf]

Did you test it with any load on the generator? Charts show a 50ft 1/2" hose can only flow 46,000 btu. That generator at max load is well over 100,000 btu and probably about 180,000btu. I bet it only runs at 25% load on the 50ft 1/2" line.

[@GeneratorReviews]

The generator at max load 10,000w was calculated needing only 35,000 BTU

[@machaf]

@@GeneratorReviews I think you need to clarify that number with Genmax. 35,000 btu is not correct. 10kw of electrical power = roughly 35000 btu, if it's 100% efficient. A generator is not 100% efficient. Quick math from specs on Genmax website: It runs for 9 hours at 50% load on a 6.9 gallon tank. Thats 0.76 gallons per hour. 1 gallon of gas is 120,000btu x .76 gallons per hour = 92,000 btu at 50% load. The similar spec'd Duromax XP11000ih needs 192,000btu at 100% load.

[@sweetsuccesstrading5097]

Can you use the same setup for the Propane on the Genmax 9000?

[@GeneratorReviews]

The 9000 doesn’t have natural gas inlet

[@StillTheJackyBear]

Excellent video sir...

[@xXLARzXx]

Anybody know where I can get a tent cover for this generator?

[@GeneratorReviews]

Are you looking for a cover?

[@Moondoggy1941]

2:55 If my memories serves me correctly, you are not supposed to wrap or put pipe dope on that end.

[@rayaguirre4237]

Correct. It is a flared end and it will seal. No need to use sealant on that side of the threads.

[@colloidalsilver1096]

Thanks great video as always

[@reefhound]

I see no links in the description.

[@GeneratorReviews]

I updated the links

[@wow1022]

be careful on how long your natural gas hose is, if it's too long at a particular diameter the generator won't get enough flow

[@mosescastillo1371]

Mine is 70ft 3/4" hose. Hope it works with my genmax inverter 10kw. I will find out soon . Centerpoint says I have to upgrade my regulator for $350.

[@kevindashid]

@@mosescastillo1371have you tested? Did it work?

[@mosescastillo1371]

@@kevindashid not yet. Just finished breaking it in. Probably will this weekend. After I change the oil.

[@ronaldnaeyaert3653]

You need to paint the black pipe portion your gas line outside per the NEC A flair fitting does not generally require tape or dope Another recent discovery on gas pipe is you need to sleeve it or use an approved tape on the section that goes through the wall.

[@Moondoggy1941]

The poor man test to see if you have enough flow. If you have. Go to the stove, prior to turning on the gene. and turn on the first top burner. Observe the flame. Now turn off Now turn on the gene. Now turn on the burner again Observe the flame. Turn on the next burner, repeat Repeat Now turn on the last burner, observe that flame, if the flame goes down you are using too much gas. Volume issues. If this is true I would not use any other gas appliances, Dangerous. I would up size my plumbing and repeat the test.

[@addminusDIY]

Dont waste money instead Go with 3/4 line, especially this video didn’t test any load. 1/2 is only good for gas grill ✌️

[@GeneratorReviews]

I did test it in the other video and if you have the money to buy the 3/4 that also works

[@sibipsam10]

But the quick connect to my Westinghouse generator only works with 1/2 quick connect So I don’t know if 3/4 house would not fit