[Genshin Impact] Ayaka C1 Amenoma Kageuchi R5 VS Kagotsurube Isshin R1 (No food buff)

[@GLICHyoutube]

It turns out that the craft sword is more convenient and generally does more damage, since the ulta recovers faster. On a crafting sword, you can save on artifacts and add more crits, etc

[@tavish5438]

But anyway in the abyss ult recovers by its cooldown, or am i wrong? Im not into numbers xdd

[@cyzo]

@@tavish5438 only at the first time you entered the floor

[@erwinbedia9606]

If Ayaka has a cryo battery like Diona or Kaeya, she will NOT need the passive of Amenoma. So, if she has a cryo battery, Isshin would be much better.

[@bubblegum2445]

true same conclusion - amenoma much more practical and better DPS overall since ayaka can get ultimate back up faster also not much difference in damage overall

[@keikeikeis]

Basically depends on sub-states. If you have ER stacked up on Artifacts, Use Cursed Blade, If you have Atk% stacked up, Use Amenoma. Balance :D

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

It depends on sub stat. If your Ayaka is burst rotating it's worse, if she's driving on field then this is better.

[@Eyeyorot]

It seem you don't know what you're talking about. The cursed sword is overall better DPS damage wise if you build Ayaka with the right Energy recharge stats. I have C1 Ayaka so it's easy for me to gain more energy particles on burst up time. Amenoma is only better for lazy low investment Ayaka to only use her burst for damage.

[@teammechag]

@@Eyeyorot I have c0 ayaka, tried both ame and kagotsurube in abyss. 43/194 crate-cdmg, 122 er on my ayaka because rng hates me. Kagotsurube does slightly more damage yes, but I cleared faster with ame because I constantly get my burst up. The fact I had to constantly switch out and funnel energy for my ayaka via Diona Es extended my rotation I think because with ame I only needed one Diona E and an E from Ayaka to get my burst gauge meter filled right back up. The damage difference is pretty marginal so I would still rank ame higher imo. But hey im not so much a skilled player, pretty casual here. So if you have bigger skill floor then kago would probably be better for your Ayaka.

[@ilahazs]

@@teammechag thanks for the information

[@_Shadman__]

It is actually better than amenoma and looks cool as well... Thanks for sharing

[@juvenile7932]

Ur welcome ^_^

[@drake2392]

Nah, it's on par with amenoma.

[@drake2392]

This little increase in damage is bcz it's not generating 20-40 particles, which helps a lot. So if character is 40 energy then it's better ,if 80 and character is burst dependent nahhhhhh!!

[@wandersonvitor3054]

Except for the passive

[@Eyeyorot]

@@drake2392 No it's better if you build Ayaka properly and have C1 which allows you to gain more energy

[@okaybutwhythough7456]

I think most people would take almost guaranteed consistent burst over somewhat higher damage. R1 Amenoma might be a different story. I'd go for the Isshin then.

[@Eyeyorot]

The cursed is better damage wise if build Ayaka properly. A you should use Ayaka cryo application before doing charged attacks, Elemental Skill and burst to gain more damage.

[@sabo512]

Bruhh it's just a raw damage, try to put elemental reaction on that ishin and amenoma and you'll see the difference amenoma can make ayaka beats with melt and freeze team but the cursed sword isn't that valuable for reactions

[@eterna1379]

@@sabo512 simply get the EM up make stats according to relevance and generally in a freeze or melt you have a battery for ayaka

[@dub2459]

Amenoma is great if you need energy recharge I use it on Benny and basically get my burst back instantly, but the red one looks cool and makes a cool sound.

[@uioRibaiasan]

Amenoma not a best choice for Bennet because of low base attack.

[@САСУТВОЙХЕЙТ]

@@uioRibaiasan +

[@sheberhrbbr2388]

Am I missing something? Kagotsurube isshin did more damage, while all the comments saying the other sword is better and did more damage 💀

[@beyondordinaryG]

bro thanks for making this video no one talk about kazuha weapon

[@sawfish9253]

Well if you have at least 140 ER go for the red sword and get a 15%attack bonus through its passive

[@Arcane_Ayush]

well just got ayaka and am constantly switching weapons from anemona and isshin-.. and as I am someone who don't use burst that often I use Isshin in open world.. but anemona (R3 yet ) in abyss and it's going great so far- ( I need to build her properly and 4 other characters raiden is included , rn just did floor 10 chamber 3 .. so yeah- )

[@bluelemonade6430]

I think Ayaka with a Diona sac bow don't need amenoma, so I think cursed sword is better.

[@tonykowalski4189]

Agreed. You never play Ayaka alone anyway (except for solo showcase) because you want that cryo resonance

[@divitgaming6959]

@@tonykowalski4189 yep I would love to get a diano.

[@tirafihaniffaturahman7477]

agreed.

[@itzayg1908]

ever since kazuha came home I don have space for another cryo

[@nicolasmontororodrigues7931]

@@itzayg1908 well, people usually run 2 cryo + 1 hydro + 1 anemo, so I don't see how kazuha could take the cryo space

[@takt1090]

If u want an uptime continuous burst, amenoma is the key.

[@Resh3221]

atleast most of us now now that for raw damage and those nice big numbers get Kagotsurube Isshin and for particles if your struggling to get her Q up get Amenoma Kageuchi but with this information if you have c1 atk%/anemo dmg bonus/crit kazuha you can use Kagotsurube Isshin for the raw damage because if you have c1 on kazuha you can get your Q back when its on cooldown. they made an awesome weapon for anemo dps kazuha.

[@GLICHyoutube]

Overall, the new sword is very good for a 4*

[@chronosbat]

Good on xingqiu if you don't have high refinement sacrificial, don't need the energy from favonius, don't have black/blackcliff sword or cant use pretty much any 5 star sword. Idk if the attack buff snapshots his burst but I would say this is in his top 10 weapons.

[@tsurara6584]

Xingqiu burst doesn't snapshot

[@Tenchua917]

I still use r1 black sword on her for a lot of crit rate so she isn't just stuck in freeze comp, nice comparison tho

[@raizenkishin4810]

whoa someone's using Ragnarok Battle offline BGM, such nostaglia of emotions @.@

[@mountainbro270]

Same here !

[@kiadomxo_ohearts9343]

It's a fancy travelers sword

[@cleveland24]

bgm remind me of a game called Ragnarok battle online. Ridiculous difficulty game. btw thanks for the comparison video 🙂

[@SkyMumu]

Ah i was waiting a video if its worth to upgrade and use on ayaka. But burst regenerate is slower than Amenoma. So for my opinion Amenoma better to use. So with amenoma basically deal more dmg cuz Burst fills quicker 🤔

[@juvenile7932]

exactly

[@erwinbedia9606]

The sword is worth upgrading if Ayaka has a cryo battery on the team. If she has a cryo battery like Diona, Rosaria or Kaeya, then Kagotsurube Isshin would be the better weapon.

[@phunghieu2007]

as an Ayaka player beated Spiral Abyss 12 with her, i'ld say that a cryo battery is more than enough for her, i used 5 star weapon Aquila Favonia which provide not a single help in energy recharge but with Shenhe, i always have my Q up in time(if you don't have Shenhe then Diona is better in term of cryo charging) so Amenoma passive isn't that good

[@pigeonsmlgsus9784]

How much ER does your Ayaka have

[@phunghieu2007]

@@pigeonsmlgsus9784like 125-130% tho

[@amarilistheodore9156]

Amenoma is good when u don't have enough ER

[@_.lakshyaaa]

I have 126 er so should i go with amenoma kageuichi or isshin blade

[@phunghieu2007]

@@_.lakshyaaa i always prefer Amenoma over Isshin since that 24-energy per Q is worth more than 100 ATK from Isshin tho. I relise if your battery is Diona with Sacraficial then Amenoma is no more the better option

[@seiramashiru644]

new weapon is better if you are normal attack spamming but for burts spam kageuchi is better

[@lukewarm442]

yeah cause the passive gives a lot of energy

[@jungwonpogi-]

i have R2 amenoma and R1 Kagotsurube what should i use??

[@bungasamala4097]

If your ayaka has a rlly low energy recharge (expect lower than 130-120) go for amenoma If her er is around above 140% go for kagotsurube i think Not rlly sure how practically it works for her burst spam, but getting her ult full before cooldown is unnecessary either :| So up to you if you want slight bigger dmg or faster burst spam for farming or abyss

[@immeasurablesubsmyidealsub2412]

Hiw do you have r1 I only have r0 of the red sword...

[@zeeshanhazari]

@@immeasurablesubsmyidealsub2412 weapons always start with Refinement 1, so you must be mistaken, as there's no such thing as R0 weapon

[@immeasurablesubsmyidealsub2412]

@@zeeshanhazari o

[@immeasurablesubsmyidealsub2412]

@@zeeshanhazari because I thought everyone had a r2 because I didn't do the story 2 times because there was a Kuzuha story òverview a year ago but Ibdidnt do that one not sure if that story quest from a year ago gave a sword...

[@a.i-t]

Спасибо за видео / Thank you for the video

[@dr.swapnilbhoyar2206]

Then repeatable burst is what we want for ayaka 👍

[@erwinbedia9606]

But if she has a cryo battery like Kaeya, Rosaria or Diona, then Isshin would be better than Amenoma.

[@lorddipto]

Best ranking table is : Mist-Split > Harbinger > Kazu-boi's sword ~ Amenoma > Black Cliff > other swords

[@EricsonPalaña]

not harbinger bruh

[@aggaviriyo790]

Dafuq you on about nigga?

[@chakraace9823]

Im gave her summit shaper and it does great dmg

[@لاالهالاالله-ت2ذ]

Thank you ❣️

[@aidanlyons25]

So I'm gonna ask you something. Which one is better for Ayato?

[@Monarch_Mochi]

Depends if u use ayato burst more then amenoma but if u want slightly higher dmg and a lot more DRIP then cursed blade , it fkin glows come on man

[@aidanlyons25]

@@Monarch_Mochi ok then DRIP it is

[@northstar67]

amenoma fits him better, for uniformity cause of the colors, but at the same time the color of kagotsurube despite being in contrast to ayatos colors somehow still fits him. And yes it glows and looks like on fire that's why its cool.

[@tirafihaniffaturahman7477]

don't give ayato amenoma bro ayato no need pasive amenoma cause talent ayato give you energi per second, better lions roar and cursed blade for maximizing ayato damage

[@Hhhh22222-w]

@@Monarch_Mochi lol who uses ayato for his burst besides applying hydro on mob

[@jason200912]

Amemo = much weaker by about 20% dps but good if you need to ult fast and multiple times such as abyss or domain speed runs Kagotsu = will win if you only need two ult 1 or 2 times on an enemy and thats it Blackcliff long = probably better than kagotsu by a lot because of the crit dmg stat

[@zboss33]

If you have 130 energy recharge you can run kagotsurube inshiin but if your er is lower than 130 you should prob run amenoma for more er

[@erwinbedia9606]

Not really. If Ayaka has a cryo battery, Amenoma passive would not be necessary.

[@elmhadjimohamedabdelhake7028]

Appreciate the sharing

[@balbidos4029]

Nice gameplay, now that's a lot of damage!

[@uioRibaiasan]

Isshin is good sword for sub dps Ayaka with Emblem set or if she has a good battery.

[@erwinbedia9606]

No. It is good for main DPS Ayaka. I use it on Ayaka as main DPS.

[@uioRibaiasan]

@@erwinbedia9606 As you can see, that's exactly what I'm talking about - "good sword for sub dps Ayaka with Emblem set" or "if she has a good battery". Otherwise, energy recharge can be insufficient without Amenoma Kageuchi.

[@erwinbedia9606]

@@uioRibaiasan Yes, I agree with that. But Isshin is good for my Ayaka with Kaeya as her battery. She does not have any problem in regenerating her energy at all

[@Arc.Z]

Is haran Gipaku good?

[@Lonehart6381]

Correction, Isshin weapon is consider as R5 already 😂

[@batch9518]

but technically, it's still R1 in the game

[@Lucerodelalbax]

Who is better? Amenoma r1 or kagotsurube?

[@juvenile7932]

In term of R1, better go for kagotsurube. Otherwise, if u can get R5 amenoma, go for it

[@Buhori_5566]

Kagotsurube is better than AMENOMA. But for spiral abyss, AMENOMA is better than KAGOTSURUBE. The thing is that amenoma can fill ayaka's energy quickly and can also spam burts

[@Lucerodelalbax]

@@Buhori_5566 I don’t want amenoma for energy recharge, my ayaka has 190% energy recharge🤣so I should use kagotsurube for give more dmg to my ayaka right? I think I’ll use the kagotsurube sword until I improve the amenoma sword to r5

[@p1ngu_]

@@Lucerodelalbax if your ayaka has a 190% er then i would consider using the kazuha sword.

[@Lucerodelalbax]

@@p1ngu_ I think I need more crit dmg… but i pull for the mistsplitter and i got 2 The unforged swords…my ayaka only has 195 crit dmg and 55 crit rate

[@dazaichan9970]

Wait is Kagotsurube Isshin a 5 star weapon, cuz if not where do we even get the sword from?

[@vibe_check3279]

Kazuha story quest

[@skyreaper1994]

It's a 4 star sword. Can be obtained from Kazuha's Story Quest

[@kunian]

@@skyreaper1994 hello! the weap is a permanent reward right? so even if the 2.8 patch ends, i can still obtain the weap whenever i get to finish his quest right? im kinda new so.. anw, thank u!

[@ajaxbae3406]

@@kunian Yep! It's his permanent story quest reward so you can do it whenever you want, there is no time limit.

[@sahu4022]

I'm not 100% sure this is right, but maybe you could check. When you used Ayaka burst with amenoma i dont think you had her cryo damage bonus from her talent (the sprint one).

[@juvenile7932]

Yeah, maybe i did some mistake there

[@Alidor9098]

who is better obscure cliff or kagotsurube for ayaka ?

[@roweeszx]

Obscure? If you meant Blackcliff Longsword then it depends, Blacksword is just a stat stick so if you think you have enough ATK already then go for it, otherwise Kagotsurube (which is like most of the time your choice also vs bosses)

[@187Zaidan]

If you run Moryana it's better to go to blackcliff longsword

[@Lordmaster316]

im using that Kagotsurube on Kazuha because it looks cool at fit for his style/design even if that sword is not compatible for him Kazuha is still OP you can use 3 star sword and he still Op so i rather use the one that looks cool on him

[@zeablade9072]

☠️☠️☠️

[@refxth.001]

Amenoma art vs isshin art lol

[@MitternachtssternXIII]

Ur doing her Combos wrong

[@dazaikinnie.228]

ураа, я не зря хотела поставить иссин

[@CaptainPrice...]

Murasama vs Yamato

[@akbarnanda4874]

How about ayato, which one is better

[@tirafihaniffaturahman7477]

of course isshin/lions roar

[@akbarnanda4874]

@@tirafihaniffaturahman7477 is it the same if my lions roar is r5

[@koceng2061]

@@akbarnanda4874 lion roar r5 better

[@erwinbedia9606]

@@akbarnanda4874 Lion's Roar would be better if you use him with Electro or Pyro applicators such as Raiden or Xiangling.

[@rizqiramadhan5111]

ill stay with harbinger of dawn 💀

[@sabo512]

Calling ishin sword is bad, mean while the difference between amenoma and ishin isn't not that huge😂😂😂😂😂😂 amenoma is just better slightly 😂😂😂

[@atticantraverse6101]

Mistsplitter reforged > all other swords.

[@jeremy8316]

Yeah but I got a giant yellow useless protein bar instead so...

[@tirafihaniffaturahman7477]

bro

[@Umbyfox]

yo we ain't talking about mistsplitter here tho

[@atticantraverse6101]

@@Umbyfox Just stating a fact.

[@smokeygotrobbed4909]

@@atticantraverse6101 Ok whale

[@migueljunyentmuniz8978]

Nice video

[@septiandewantara2238]

i think ayaka dps be better with mistplitter

[@xdNoro]

you so bad on ayaka