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Atari Gamestation Pro Controller Compatability Testing | What Are Your Options?

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@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
🚨 UPDATES 🚨 As we get further info and detail about compatibility, I'll try to keep this comment updated. • There seem to be power considerations with Xbox controllers. I get best results using a charged wireless controller (under its own power) connected via USB for communication. Strictly wired controllers may or may not receive enough power from the USB-C port to function.
@chrisnunya7171
@chrisnunya7171 11 ай бұрын
Isn't that red controller you were using a PS "4" controller? Not a 2 or 3? It looks like a 4. Now I'm not sure! 🤣🫨🤷🏼‍♂️
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisnunya7171 Sure, if you say so. 😀 I am not that familiar with modern consoles, and even less so with Sony consoles.
@OM19_MO79
@OM19_MO79 11 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUpYou sure you are Gen X? You sound more like a proper boomer. I was born in 79, I know the difference between a Dual Shock 1, 2, 3, 4, SIXAXIS and Dual Sense (yes, I know the difference between a DS 1 and 2 and a SIXAXIS and a DS3). Anyway, is good to know that they are finally listening to the customers, let’s see how much does that last. Atgames used to listen, now they are fucking back all of their customers by stripping out their devices of advertised functionalities. By 2026, My Arcade will be back to their ways, I’m sure.
@wolfshanze5980
@wolfshanze5980 11 ай бұрын
You should try the Retro-Bit Official Sega Genesis USB Controller... it can use either D or X input (you said X input works with the Gamestation Pro) and because it uses the Genesis button layout (namely A, B, C buttons in a row) this should be PERFECT for games like Missile Command Arcade with three bases.
@joezar33
@joezar33 10 ай бұрын
​@@GenXGrownUpyou going too do a add rom video in the future ? I'm more of a Sega/Nintendo kid, but I'm starting too like this little Atari Gizmo after watching what it can do so far .
@kranibal
@kranibal 11 ай бұрын
Just subbed. Your presence in front of the camera is top notch. Your content is also great.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Well, thank you, Martin. That's very kind of you to say. I appreciate your subscription and your viewership! 😀
@ctbinary42
@ctbinary42 11 ай бұрын
The question I have now is how a new controller will work on added roms. I’m sure we will see in a follow up 👍
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Good question. From what I've seen so far I'd expect the same results with add-ons via SD. As you noted, I will have to verify in the next one.
@billysherman2702
@billysherman2702 11 ай бұрын
Great info! This is turning out to be a great system. It looks like MyArcade made a better Flasback than AtGames!
@mechamania
@mechamania 11 ай бұрын
To be fair, AtGames’ Atari Flashbacks aren’t a high benchmark, but the point is well-taken...
@jdubbs8242
@jdubbs8242 11 ай бұрын
All this thing needs is a really slick custom firmware and its the Atari killer app. Just ordered mine based on your vids- thanks for the info!
@yourbusinessvalue
@yourbusinessvalue 11 ай бұрын
The fact that the joystick works in Windows is a major selling point for me. Thanks for doing this! I hope someone finds a way to make the paddle compatible.
@richyasi7424
@richyasi7424 10 ай бұрын
Could you please do a video on getting 3-4 player capability up and running for the paddle games? Would having 4 Gamestation Pro controllers let you do 4-player Warlords, Breakout, etc? That would be great to know. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
@jeenkzk5919
@jeenkzk5919 11 ай бұрын
I have a Windows XP computer that I bought at a church sale for five dollars! I then used it for Mame games. It’s a little outdated but it works. I used a controller for it and then my cat chew through the wires and I thought I was screwed for the moment. But then I plugged in both PlayStation mini and Sega genesis minis controllers, and I’ll be damned , it worked. I can’t do any twin state games like Robotron but it’ll definitely hold me over until I find another PlayStation 2 like controller.
@islygon
@islygon 11 ай бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks for following up on the controllers!
@1bigoptimus
@1bigoptimus 11 ай бұрын
Great video! This does not influence whether I get the system or not but it is good to know that something else works. I have it on preorder. I don't plan on using another controller unless the game becomes really awkward. Nothing is more nostalgic than using a joystick to play classic Atari games.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate you watching. 😃
@PeBoVision
@PeBoVision 11 ай бұрын
Or, as with Battle Zone and Robotron, two controllers duct-taped together. (I'm Canadian, duct tape is a multi-tool)
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 11 ай бұрын
I think it's hyperkin, that make the trooper or trooper 2 Atari joystick. I almost got it for PC to play Atari stuff, I wasn't sure if it had enough buttons.
@wiredupretro
@wiredupretro 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the new info- The GameStation really is beginning to get more appealing as each day goes by!
@craig5656
@craig5656 9 ай бұрын
We bought the GSP for our kids Christmas. There is no doubt that they will like the new sleek look as well as wireless controllers. We have a retro arcade near our home so they will recognize some of the pre loaded games and I’m looking forward to loading some of my old favorites. The smaller platform as well as the wireless controllers will make it perfect to connect to the tv in our mini van for road trips. And lastly the cost is a no brainer, I grew up with the original but don’t have the time or money to buy cartridges.
@OrdoNekro
@OrdoNekro 11 ай бұрын
What a great time to be an Atari fan
@Drygon52
@Drygon52 11 ай бұрын
Very cool. Now we need to test the analog joystick with 5200 games that use it. I am sure it will not have support, but would be nice. Would also be nice to add a spinner for tempest and the few 2600 games that used the driving contoler like indy 500.
@jimcampbell
@jimcampbell 10 ай бұрын
If someone made an adapter to use traditional atari controllers I’d be all in on this. Someone please make a 3rd party product! Maybe even throw in extra inputs for Nintendo etc. I can dream right?
@videostash413
@videostash413 11 ай бұрын
Props on an ad that's not annoying or too long! That's a PS4 controller by the way (the touchpad gives it away).
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Thanks - we're trying to stay above water but definitly try to keep ads super short and to the point. Glad that's working. I have since learned that's a PS4 controller... I obviously don't have much knowledge of Playstation! 😜
@victormercado4478
@victormercado4478 11 ай бұрын
I'm always in AWE when I see the Steve Austin action figure on your shelf along with Oscar Goldman and Mask-a-tron.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
😀 I've even featured Steve in a few of my videos in the past. Most recently last Christmas for the Hallmark ornament.
@StevieRayLou
@StevieRayLou 11 ай бұрын
I want the original arcade Battlezone.
@d.aardent9382
@d.aardent9382 7 ай бұрын
I just saw a gamer modder channel and he was showing a controller frame a company was making 3d printed, that locks the two gsp controllers side to side and he was playing Battlezone that had the original vector graphics, it looked exactly like original. So i guess ya can find the program through some of the providers. I cant recall the name of the peripheral company, i will get the name and add it on here.
@LouMarcotte
@LouMarcotte 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@d.aardent9382Did you find the peripheral company name?
@Injectorman
@Injectorman 11 ай бұрын
I could think that, you could connect another controller with it and it would ask for the buttons or joystick(s) so it can map how it would be compared to the Atari controller. if there was to much buttons it would just remove it as it never existed, and it would also remember certain maps of controls on certain controllers. Like if you connected a hmmm…. A ps4-5 controller? it would remember it for future notice. But for the tech we currently have in 2023 i don’t think we can create a memory card like that. hopefully you read all this and share your opinions bellow! correcting me is accepted here.
@rameybutler-hm7nx
@rameybutler-hm7nx 11 ай бұрын
Hot dang more info!!! My arcade take my money!!!! Hope that adding the roms vid is soon.🎉🎉🎉🎉
@smallspacearcade8158
@smallspacearcade8158 11 ай бұрын
Great follow up Jon. With various Flash Backs and Mini console I'm seeming building a collection of various controllers for each. The pack in Joysticks will still be my preference as im looking for this to just be what i play 2600 games on, still its nice to know that my X-Box controllers can be drafted in if needed. 😊
@dad7275
@dad7275 11 ай бұрын
Here's a good one to try considering and it DOES have paddle controls is the new Atari VCS classic controller. It also probably has as many buttons so it MIGHT just work!? The paddle functionality of the classic VCS controller is what would really intrest me.
@turbinegraphics16
@turbinegraphics16 11 ай бұрын
The VCS paddles work when connected to a pc via bluetooth or usb but they only work correctly in stella.
@victormercado4478
@victormercado4478 11 ай бұрын
This would be so cool if the spinner would work on Mame like games Tempest, Frontline...
@tonyrich402
@tonyrich402 11 ай бұрын
This controller looks to be very promising to use with the Arcade version of Tron in some capacity. I would like to see that tested at some point.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Could be quite good. That'll require either a driver to try this on a PC, or an update to the GSP firmware to enable paddle control on games added via SD card.
@TheXTopher74
@TheXTopher74 7 ай бұрын
Since getting the Gamestation Pro, this has been my #1 channel for information, and I hope you will continue investigating 3rd party controller support for this system. I would love any ideas or investigation on whether the 8bitdo Arcade Stick can work with the Gamestation Pro, I can only get button presses to work in the menu, but joystick navigation will not work in spite of the controller supporting X-input mode, and I fully enjoy using this controller with the Atari 50 collection on Steam.
@mechamania
@mechamania 11 ай бұрын
Wondering if a Windows/Mac standard trackball or trackball mouse would work with games like the arcade or 5200 versions of _Missile Command, Centipede, Millipede, Crystal Castles_ and etc - especially because there are so many trackball games in Atari’s early history. Given the 5200 is a reworked Atari 400/800, which do recognize Atari’s trackball not just as a joystick, but also as an arcade-like trackball (using the switch on the back to toggle joystick/trackball input), for most if not all of those games, on an Atari 8-bit (working from 35-40 year-old memories, I remember that at least the OG and XL machines’ _Missile Command, Centipede_ and _Crystal Castles_ all work, as does _Crystal Castles_ on the Atari 2600, actually), then there’s a decent chance that the Gamestation or an emulator could work with a USB trackball, like an arcade trackball, for at least one of the versions on the Gamestation. Considering there are more than two buttons on modern USB trackballs-like controllers-and that they’re “standard sized trackball inputs,” some of those extra buttons might/could also work as Menu, Start, and Home buttons, too - if not for the 5200 games, then maybe for the 2600 or arcade versions. In fact, a mouse might actually work the same way, accounting for speed, which would be a great alternative to using the joystick, too, even if the included joystick accounts for speed, as an analog stick...
@mechamania
@mechamania 11 ай бұрын
Also a good point that the spinner on the Gamestation is an analog input. So, that bodes well for at least a driver to accommodate USB trackballs...
@jettp3810
@jettp3810 11 ай бұрын
I’m a 50 something year old gamer. The Atari 2600 was my first console. I am looking at this and the Atari 2600 plus. I am not sure what console is the best for me.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Understandable. I don't intend to take sides, but I do plan to do a pre-release comparison video of the two and weigh their pros & cons.
@jayme69
@jayme69 11 ай бұрын
Great video Jon. X-Input should be good for USB Arcade/Fight Sticks :-) Thanks for sharing and keep up the awesome work!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@lydiakossow
@lydiakossow 11 ай бұрын
Very helpful, 🙂 great demo...thnx again!
@Enriqueguiones
@Enriqueguiones 11 ай бұрын
To be honest, I think the controllers are quite cool. I don't see the point on using "my own". My main problem with the unit is that it contains less than 140 Atari games (no Pitfall, no Ninja Golf) and 60+ Piko games I already own on the Evercade.
@lafemmedevastation
@lafemmedevastation 11 ай бұрын
I think it would be worthwhile to see if any 2.4Ghz controllers out there can connect wirelessly to the Gamestation Pro. 8bitdo and others make a few, and for those that are bluetooth: a USB-C to USB-A adapter plus either 8bitdo's or Mayflash's dongle should be able to support the rest.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 9 ай бұрын
I very briefly tried this last night. I have a Logitech F710 controller that I use with my Commodore 64 (TheC64 from Retro Games). I set the controller to xinput mode and activated it, but my Gamestation Pro couldn't connect to it directly. I think the F710 uses the 2.4 GHz frequency band, but the console couldn't see it. I want to plug the controller's RF receiver into my Gamestation Pro to see if that works, but as yet I don't have a USB-A to USB-C adaptor to try it. I may get one soon, but at the moment my priority is to get some USB-C cables so I don't have to use batteries in the controllers. I will try the Logitech controller in Directinput mode and see if that works, but I doubt that it will because even in Xinput mode the console and controller didn't detect each other's carrier signals.
@ThePowergoats
@ThePowergoats 2 ай бұрын
I just picked up a used GSP for $50 bucks today! I'm going through these old vids because I'm a big ol' 50-year-old nerd!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic! I hope you find them helpful. 😁
@ThePowergoats
@ThePowergoats 2 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp Dude, they're amazing! I've already gotten the 1.30 update and I'm adding games! I've not added the 1.30c yet, I've got a gig to play tonight and I'm afraid I won't want to leave my house! :D
@zephyrsonzephyrson8618
@zephyrsonzephyrson8618 11 ай бұрын
This is an excellent video. In my top three of possible cons for this comsole was controller replacement issues/possibilities. An Xbox controller will suit me fine when I feel like it might be best to preserve the integrity of the sticks that come with the console. Let's face it, joysticks designed like this, these days, break. I would prefer that My Arcade offer replacements and I've put in an inquiry to find that out, but in the meantime, it's great to know that I have alternatives. I'm running out of reasons not to buy this. Being in Canada, I'm having issues with that (as of yeaterday) and still a bit on the fence. My other major issue is that the paddle doesn't work with paddles games, should I get into the SD card. The SD card is the biggest selling point for me because I already have the Flashback 9 Gold, by Atgames. It too has an SD card slot, which I am using so I have more than half of the games available on this. That means I care most about 5200 options, 7800 options, 8bit, 16bit, and arcade. I already have a bootleg nintendo with 300 games on it so that doesn't help this cause but at least I can narrow down my 8bit list to games I will actually play, on this console...that helps in the end. So I'm bouncing ideas around. I'm looking for reasons not to buy but I'm running out of reasons. This video is very helpful. I'll share what My Arcade tells me about my inquiry here, IF they respond. I had similar inquiries in to AtGames and they never responded...bastards. lol. Anyways your GSP vids have been excellent. I was available to enjoy the live stream two days ago and even watched it again yesterday to make notes and I don't have many, so that's a good thing. ✌
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, and I'm very gratified to know I'm helping you to make an educated buying decision that's right for you! 😀
@e815usa
@e815usa 10 ай бұрын
I just got my Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller, the one GXG recommended, as well as the charging cable he recommended. I can say without a doubt that it works great! The big lit X serves as the reset button. The only thing I recommend is removing the paddles from the bottom of the controller because they can cause the Save button functionality to pop up a lot if you press the paddle by accident. Removing the paddles from the controller took care of this. They are fully removeable and go right in the carry case. All the paddles do is mimic the A, B, or C buttons anyway, so for me they weren't of any use. I will still use the controllers that came with the Gamestation Pro for 2600, 5200, and 7800 games. But for Genesis, NES, and Arcade games, the Xbox controller can't be beat! Yes it's more expensive than the Gamestation Pro itself. But I felt the cost was worth it because I know I won't get tired of the system now that I have a decent controller where I didn't have to feel awkward using the built in controllers, and did not have to remap any buttons for the Xbox controller! I am also guessing that any Xbox controller with a USB-C connector will work. But I did not want to take a chance and went with the Xbox Elite Series 2 Controller, the one GXG used in this video.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 10 ай бұрын
Great to hear! Remember that you can remap those buttons on the elite and create a variety of profiles to switch between on the fly (NES layout? Genesis layout?). 😀
@e815usa
@e815usa 10 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp That's good to know. I'll have to figure that out since the Xbox manual didn't give those instructions, unless I missed it.
@Chekmate99
@Chekmate99 9 ай бұрын
unfortunately I can’t get my Series 2 controller to work - after plugging it in just no response - did you use the usb cable that came with your controller with a converter to plug into the usb-c jack in the console? or used a third party usb-c to usb-c cable? or configure the controller before using? thanks
@e815usa
@e815usa 9 ай бұрын
@Chekmate99 I used the cable that came with the controller and a usb to usb-c adapter I bought pff Amazon.
@Chekmate99
@Chekmate99 9 ай бұрын
@@e815usa thanks for replying! I’ll give that a go as I used a usb-c to usb-c from Walmart - thanks
@Brianybug
@Brianybug 10 ай бұрын
This is great, I was wondering about other controllers! Gonna try it out.
@CapnCavMan
@CapnCavMan 11 ай бұрын
If someone figures out paddle, spinner, trakball support it'll be a must buy.
@wiredupretro
@wiredupretro 7 ай бұрын
Working on it :)
@VEGANVANIA
@VEGANVANIA 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate that they've made these other options viable (via USB-C) but if you don't like the joysticks, IMO, don't buy the console, as the controllers consume a large percentage of the price tag. I am a very harsh critic of the _Evercade Vs.,_ but a huge portion of the value of that console is the quality of the controllers (i.e., they're good, and if you have a positive preference for the d-pad on classic Sega Saturn controllers, they're even great)… nobody would be well advised to buy either one (the Atari or the Evercade) as an emulation box to plug your own arcade sticks into _if they didn't_ like the included controllers (and there are many, many competitive options to consider, BYOJ).
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Good points. Thanks for watching! 🤔
@ASalvaro
@ASalvaro 9 ай бұрын
i've been looking for an USB joystick for my PC and this would be perfect...thanks for the video!
@esmith13
@esmith13 11 ай бұрын
Seems to me then a good "universal" option for "Bring your own bluetooth controller" would be an 8bitdo original red brick usb adapter in X-Input mode. That perfectly emulates XB360/XBOne controllers and will connect with a rather extensive list of Bluetooth controllers from many manufacturers. You then get to maintain wireless play as well... I also can't wait to try my MadCatz Arcade GameStick (XB360 usb joystick with a spinner).
@LeaderDessler
@LeaderDessler 10 ай бұрын
This is the MOST important thing for me. I was actually wondering if there might be a wireless option. This could be it. Thanks!
@LeaderDessler
@LeaderDessler 5 ай бұрын
I finally got around to buying the USB 8BitDo Wireless Adapter 2 and it partially works with an Xbox One controller, but not 100%. Did you find wireless controller that’s 100% compatible?
@JGKingCrusher
@JGKingCrusher Ай бұрын
That is cool. I really need one of those systems!
@guyonphilippe2223
@guyonphilippe2223 11 ай бұрын
Hello , great review by the way ! Any chance on testing the Xbox 360 wired controller, there’s a good chance many viewers have one !
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I knew that would be a common one out there, but I don't have a genuine one handy. I did have a knock-off that I tested (not in this video) and it did nearly nothing, so I didn't include it. I don't know if that's representative of Xbox 360 controllers in general or not, though. I suspect this aftermarket version didn't have Xinput protocol compatibility.
@atworkstation
@atworkstation 4 ай бұрын
That’s next on my list. USB c adapter, cables, and a controller or two.
@DowntheRabbitHole0
@DowntheRabbitHole0 11 ай бұрын
Any possible steering wheel controllers work on this console? I'd love to play Night Driver 76 with an actual steering wheel (I'm aware it'll likely only be digital left and right but I'd be happy with that).
@PCKid32
@PCKid32 11 ай бұрын
Quite fascinating. Would like to have seen how it worked with Missile Command controlling bases individually on the Xbox controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
You're the second to suggest that and that was a total miss on my part. I'll remedy it just as soon as I can!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Did a quick update: kzbin.info1gtUQX1Ve9U?feature=share
@cwp1409
@cwp1409 11 ай бұрын
In theory then the 8bitdo arcade stick should work. That could be fun for the arcade games (or any of them). Cant wait to get mine and test
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I wish I could've tried an 8bitdo, but both of mine are fully wireless. Those would be a great option if they work well.
@kevindickinson4867
@kevindickinson4867 9 ай бұрын
I bought an Xbox XJS controller from Amazon for $44, plus 10' usb c to c cables. The controller works great too. I did discover that I had to unplug the controller first , then turn on the Atari GSP, then I could plug in the Xbox controller and it functioned perfectly. I just read here that the xbox center button works as the home button. I will try that today. I just added some Genesis games and having a blast playing Pitfall, Earthworm Jim and Road Rash II.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 9 ай бұрын
Would you please send me a link to the controller you've verifed to be working? KZbin may trap it for review, but I'll see it. Thanks.
@TheChcltdlux1
@TheChcltdlux1 8 ай бұрын
Yes please share the link or pic. Thanks
@comicschris77
@comicschris77 10 ай бұрын
@GenXGrownUp Have you tried any other 2.4 Ghz controllers wirelessly? Just wondering if that is possible, I know 8bitDo makes some for Switch that are 2.4
@justinvhammond
@justinvhammond 11 ай бұрын
So . . . where didja get that cool 2600 skin for your Xbox Controller?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I knew somebody would ask! www.decalgirl.com/artwork/5428/wooden-gaming-system
@seanjorden8492
@seanjorden8492 7 ай бұрын
For some reason my comments keep disappearing - anyways tested with standard XBox 360 wireless controller, plugged in without batteries. Everything worked great except for Home - XBox logo button did not seem to do anything. No more controller lag!
@ShadeofJeremy
@ShadeofJeremy 11 ай бұрын
Cool to learn this. I don't think it will have any impact on my decision though. I don't have any other types of controllers anyway. And I don't see me buying them either. But it is fascinating to know that some others will work with it.
@MarcusBeebe
@MarcusBeebe 11 ай бұрын
The spinner is analog input...
@brqk3n
@brqk3n 11 ай бұрын
Im curious on the gamestation pro controller how it behaves when its plugged into the Atari VCS! I know its not exactly what you show here, but i want to k ow if i can buy those controllers to use on my VCS. Thanks for any insight!
@ThePowergoats
@ThePowergoats 2 ай бұрын
Hey Jon! I was wondering if you have tried the Xbox One controller with any SNES games now that the GSP emulates it post-firmware update? Love your channel!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 2 ай бұрын
I have. I cover that (and the challenges) in this follow-up video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3m6eJydhJWAbbM Thanks for watching! 😁
@edgeofeden7583
@edgeofeden7583 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Now when the joystick is not ideal, one can just use a xbox compatible controller. Sweet.
@TheAtariCreep
@TheAtariCreep 11 ай бұрын
Curious if the VCS modern controller works with it? This was fun, thanks for taking the time.
@dad7275
@dad7275 11 ай бұрын
Just as interesting is the classic style vcs controller because it does have paddle functionality too.
@TheAtariCreep
@TheAtariCreep 11 ай бұрын
@@dad7275 ohhhhhh ya!
@MercedesDieselGuy
@MercedesDieselGuy 8 ай бұрын
Here's my updates: I tried a pair of wireless PS4 (no name aftermarket) controllers, and they absolutely did not work. I tried a wireless XBOX One controller (official, not aftermarket) 3:03 and it works fine (when plugged in with a USB cable). However, this controller works fine plugged in even when there are no batteries in it. So, it essentially functions as a wired controller. I wonder how a native wired controller would work. I'm still not getting compatibility with Turbografx roms and the controller, though. Hopefully a future Myarcade firmware update will fix that.
@wormquartet
@wormquartet 9 ай бұрын
PS4 controller works REALLY well with the arcade games - both the analog and digital controls work.
@KeenRetroGames
@KeenRetroGames 11 ай бұрын
This is awesome. Thanks!
@lurkerrekrul
@lurkerrekrul 11 ай бұрын
If I had to guess, I'd figure compatibility hinged on XInput support. It used to be that you could just plug in a USB controller and the system would recognize it, at least as far as the most standard inputs. Then Microsoft introduced XInput, and even though it offered no advantaged over DirectX, developers soiled themselves with joy over it, and it suddenly became the must-have feature in everything game related.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I arrived at the same conclusion.
@Omn1Slash
@Omn1Slash Ай бұрын
Hey great video and I made sure to subscribe! I know I'm a little late to the party, but did you mention or test the spinner with emulation? Particular with MAME or arcade emulation for Arkanoid, etc?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome! I have several follow-up videos that you'll no doubt find useful, but on the topic of the paddle, it's not observed in arcade emulation. Arcade games had spinners whereas the GSP's controllers have paddles. The non-stop nature of a spinner makes paddles with hard-stops sadly incompatible.
@Omn1Slash
@Omn1Slash Ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp that makes sense. I was looking for a quick way to add Atari 2600 paddle to emulation and maybe spinner games to my existing arcade so figured I'd check. Also, I did see the Gamestation Pro on sale so I've been catching alot of your content and review of it. I appreciate the explanation!
@m0nde
@m0nde 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, the one thing I wanted to use was the paddle and even in the Gamestation, Tempest Arcade, unfortunately, doesn't use the paddle knob. I do hope someone writes a custom driver that takes advantage of part of the stick.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Tempest doesn't utilize the paddle because it requires a spinner - full 360 non-stop rotation.
@m0nde
@m0nde 6 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp thx, that makes sense.
@marcofeibel1364
@marcofeibel1364 8 ай бұрын
Hi, I would be interested how the Atari VCS Controllers like the Classic Controller and the Modern Controller are working with the Gamestation pro? And if, does the paddle function of the Classic work, too?
@miked4377
@miked4377 11 ай бұрын
very good...hey love your atari hat jon! i love japan as well . . and there rich gaming retro hardware and soft....the control issue is better now !
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I think I picked it up on a fire sale when they were closing down the Think Geek website.
@ReptilianRichardRamirez
@ReptilianRichardRamirez 11 ай бұрын
One joystick for my primary gaming and emulation PC and one for the actual gamestation!
@DuckMcKrush
@DuckMcKrush 8 ай бұрын
I have 10 different controllers in my house and none of them work with the GSP. Almost $200 for an Xbox Elite controller is way too pricey for my budget. It's my only complaint. They fixed all of my other issues with the latest firmware update. Now if they could give us some more compatibility and button mapping options it a true winner. I only play the paddle games with their controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 8 ай бұрын
I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to buy an Xbox Elite JUST for GSP play. I hear PS4 & PS5 controllers do great, but I don't own one yet to test with.
@JRthepyroguy
@JRthepyroguy 11 ай бұрын
I have a Bluetooth dongle controller that I use on my pc. I'm definitely going to try it on it when I get mines.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 8 ай бұрын
Have you tried plugging the GSP's joystick into your A500 Mini? Last night I plugged it into TheC64, which is a Commodore 64 replica also made by Retro Games. And, it worked! Yes! I couldn't believe it. I probably wouldn't recommend using it because the button mapping is a bit odd and confusing, but it does work.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 8 ай бұрын
I haven't tried it, but since it's recognized by my PC, I would epect it to behave similarly on compatible devices. That's cool. 😀
@Fungib1e
@Fungib1e 11 ай бұрын
Are you kidding me Jon? You didn’t try arcade Missile Command with the Elite?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Oh, damn. I am a failure. I'll have to make good on that!
@danfrohlich9387
@danfrohlich9387 11 ай бұрын
I'd like to know which of your controls which works best with arcade missile command
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Trying to right my wrongs: kzbin.info1gtUQX1Ve9U?feature=share
@jackmcslay
@jackmcslay 11 ай бұрын
Quite odd the GSP controller reports so many buttons, maybe they used a generic firmware for a dual analog controller and didn't bother changing? I think it would be worth checking the GSP controller with more systems, like the raspberry pi, android and gamepad-compatible browser games.
@SatoshiMatrix1
@SatoshiMatrix1 11 ай бұрын
Two questions. Is there any sort of controller remapping? I'm left handed. I think I would like to use the "B" button as the main fire button in 2600 games. When you add 5200 games, does the stock stick work an analog joystick or strictly digitial?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
All bad news for you currently. No remapping available at the moment, and I found added 5200 games that required analog control to not be very playable.
@SatoshiMatrix1
@SatoshiMatrix1 11 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp Oh that's a shame. Hopefully those issues can be fixed in firmware updates. I'm assuning that you can update the firmware, correct? What about using an Xbox One controller? Does the left stick work? You showed the dpad which is great. Does the left stick work too?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
@@SatoshiMatrix1 Indeed, I have updated the firmware a couple times. That's right - note toward the end I play Yars' and show using the left analog as well as d-pad.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting to note that if you change the colour of the colour ring on the controller and it's connected to your PC, I believe button 9 'latches' when you select white, and button 10 'latches' when you selected orange. It might be the other way around. I don't understand why the A, B and C buttons aren't simply mapped to 1, 2 and 3, and I don't know why the paddle control isn't mapped to a throttle or something. Since the Gamestation Pro doesn't work too well with the Retro Games Gamepad for the A500 Mini, I have doubts that The Joystick for TheC64 will work too. I really want to try my Logitech F710 controller with the console, but I don't have the correct adaptor right now.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 9 ай бұрын
I didn't know about the color latching inputs. That's interesting. In fairness, the controller wasn't marketed as being compatible with PC, so My Arcade is well within their rights to utilize the inputs however it works for them.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 9 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp That's true. It's easy to tell that the input is latched actually, because if you select a colour then turn off the controller but leave the console on, the lights on the console revert back to the colour changing mode. I've only put batteries in one of my controllers, but I'm curious to discover whether changing the colours on one controller will automatically change the colours on the other controller too, even if you don't press the light button on the second controller. I'm also a little surprised the the console and controllers don't remember what colour setting you selected when you turn them all off, that said, it makes sense now since the controller latches the inputs when you change the colour mode.
@robert_roland63
@robert_roland63 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got another experiment for using a controller to the GameStation Pro. I have an Xbox controller (model # 1537) that uses a USB-A dongle when I’ve used this in my PC. It makes me wonder how well it will perform with that USB-A to USB-C adapter. Would it work the same as wired?
@fletcherchambers7175
@fletcherchambers7175 10 ай бұрын
Oh man, someone has got to get the paddle knob working when using emulators... That controller w/Retropie would be awesome!
@ITGuyinaction
@ITGuyinaction 11 ай бұрын
💯💯💯😉👊✌🤚👋 So many "different Ataris" in the latest years or even months...
@Jalbaholica
@Jalbaholica 7 ай бұрын
Have you, or anyone else, tried the Modern and Classic controllers that came with the Atari VCS? Would seem to make sense to have compatibility with other Atari products.
@Bikeguychicago1
@Bikeguychicago1 11 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Xbox One controller with the Genesis games (like Immortal or Zany Golf) or with the NES games?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I didn't do a full multi-system test, but I would expect the same compatibility on those games as the others since they're invoking the same configured emulator.
@liveandlearn304
@liveandlearn304 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: playing Vanguard on the GSP with the Xbox One controller I recently bought, the natural state is NOT firing with A button to fire! Gonna take some getting used to. Maybe it'll be better?! 😄
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Ай бұрын
🤔
@liveandlearn304
@liveandlearn304 Ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp Played this morning and figured it out! Game starts normally, but if I hit the right bumper button, automatic forward firing stops, but firing still determined by directional movement. Hitting the left bumper stops movement based firing and requires A button with movement. Weird, eh? I always try all the buttons just to see if they'll do anything 😄 In this case they did!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp Ай бұрын
@@liveandlearn304 Great find!
@brianmcwhorter1682
@brianmcwhorter1682 9 ай бұрын
Look at your hitchhiker thumbs! You are such a nerd! I❤U!
@jameshaslam2048
@jameshaslam2048 6 ай бұрын
Are there any recommended arcade-style joysticks to use with the Gamestation Pro?
@astra6712
@astra6712 11 ай бұрын
That’s a nice option!
@KLund1100
@KLund1100 9 ай бұрын
from this video and most of the comments below, this topic need much further review, and expansion to paddles/spinners/trackballs/tanksticks. Plus not noted, only wired controllers will work with this A-GSP. Also found elsewhere, battery state will effect function. Also found elsewhere, variations of the same model controller may work differently. Again much more testing and review is needed. Have you played Atari today !!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 9 ай бұрын
Indeed! As I learn definitive information I've been adding to the pinned comment.
@JohnSciaccaWriter
@JohnSciaccaWriter 9 ай бұрын
Ordered a couple of 10-foot USB C-C cables to connect my Xbox X controller. Do you know if the C button (trigger button on the pack in controller) maps to any Xbox button? I find the included remote SO maddening to use, I’m hoping I can ditch it for everything but the paddle games. Thanks for all the great videos!!!!
@urbanknish
@urbanknish 9 ай бұрын
Reality check: The more I learn about the Gamestation Pro, the more I think back to the Evercade VS (which is awesome but collects dust in my house). It's better in every conceivable way as a retro game station. Almost the same price point but with enormous expand-ability for both games and controllers. Strangely enough, the first two cartridges for it were Atari.
@mikekitterman5800
@mikekitterman5800 7 ай бұрын
I am curious if there is any compatibility with retro arcade controllers? Have you tried any Arcade cabinet controls with this system?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 7 ай бұрын
I've tried lots of stuff including 8bitdo and some random controllers that came with other products, but nothing so far beats that wired Xbox One controller for me.
@warrencdent
@warrencdent 3 ай бұрын
Many of these could be great though, if remapped?
@esmith13
@esmith13 11 ай бұрын
Did you also try playing games with A, B & C from various systems (since there are multiple different emulators in play)? Like Missile Command, a Genesis game and an Arcade Game? Oh and two button support for 7800 as well of course.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the compatibility was uniform across all platforms. Not every controller had every button available, as you saw, but with the Xbox One, I had all three buttons represented (not just in the order you might expect).
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
This may help: kzbin.info1gtUQX1Ve9U?feature=share
@djsirius6694
@djsirius6694 9 ай бұрын
I bought this to relive some childhood memories. I found the joy stick and paddle to have terrible response time no matter what sensitivity setting changed to. I may have to try a different controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 9 ай бұрын
Do you have a 2.4Ghz wifi network? I've heard of interference as a possibility.
@djsirius6694
@djsirius6694 9 ай бұрын
I do but I am not near any of my access points if that means anything. Also just received my usb c cables and while plugging into the console, I can navigate on the menu of games but when I start a game to play, the joystick or paddle stops responding.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 9 ай бұрын
@@djsirius6694 Goodness! Must be a defective component - I've never seen so much as a single disconnect.
@jamesmcmillan7845
@jamesmcmillan7845 7 ай бұрын
Got a PDP Rematch XBOX wired controller. No lag and works perfect! $33 on Amazon. This controller completely changed my overall opinion of the GS Pro to positive. I would rather they provide one good analog controller rather than the two laggy crap controllers. Now I just need to find a good paddle wheel and maybe a ball controller.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 7 ай бұрын
Can you provide a link to the exact model you found to work well? KZbin may flag a comment with a link in it, but I will catch it.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 7 ай бұрын
I saw your note, but not the link. May I ask you to email to me? jon@genxgrownup.com - Thanks!
@brianmesarosh1266
@brianmesarosh1266 7 ай бұрын
Will you do a video or know of a controller that can be used on the gsp for the nes roms?​@@GenXGrownUp
@ab-travelindustryexecutive3409
@ab-travelindustryexecutive3409 7 ай бұрын
The plugged in X-box One controller doesn't work for me .
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 7 ай бұрын
👁️ Please see the pinned comment.
@Concreteowl
@Concreteowl 11 ай бұрын
Obviously not a playstation fan, I doubt a Ps4 controller would do anything on a ps2. Diamond😁 great video
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I know, I know... Where did I even get a PS4 controller? I have no idea! 😁
@BillWillyBillyBill
@BillWillyBillyBill 7 ай бұрын
Would the XBox controller work better with SNES games like Street Fighter II on GSP? Those titles are missing XYZ buttons.
@TheGIChef
@TheGIChef 11 ай бұрын
Thoughts on using an X-Arcade Tankstick?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I don't have one - does it support X-Input?
@RlsIII-uz1kl
@RlsIII-uz1kl 8 ай бұрын
It'd sure be nice if everything was open source and standards existed all across the board.
@dancero643
@dancero643 11 ай бұрын
i like the console design but the joystick... i'm curious how the asteroids (arcade) works with that joystick. does it control the same as the 2600 version? is the control mapped to work with only one button (fire)?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
It varied from controller to controller, but the Xbox One had A & B for sure (I don't remember if I tested for the third button) as I use them both in the video.
@PeBoVision
@PeBoVision 11 ай бұрын
So you say at the end that there is no wireless functionality with a PC ? They don't use Bluetooth ? Really only wanted the joystick (issues with stupid button locations* don't effect 1 button 800 or ST games, and that's what I want it for.) I sit 15 ft away from my HTPC, so wireless functionity is a must (USB cables introduce major lag beyond 6ft (without a signal boosting cable) - be it a joystick or an external drive). I currently use a Slik Stik and a DB9 to USB adapter, but again that introduces a lag that makes games difficult to play. I was really hoping these controllers would be Bluetooth pairable, but I assume you tried a pairing and it wasn't found. Looks like VCS controllers it is... I'll be calling in a favour from American friends to go do some shopping for me. (I refuse to pay $200 to have one shipped from Australia) Thank you for testing though. Answered all other questions, as you always do! *the button locations suggests ATGames has no idea how people hold a classic CX10/CX40 controller to play games. That's kinda sad, but I guess if you've only ever used NES controllers, how would you know? Kids !!
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
That's right. We've covered all along that these use 2.4Ghz, not bluetooth.
@CSanykdotCom
@CSanykdotCom 11 ай бұрын
Xinput control is nice; can hackers figure out how to re-map buttons, is the real question. Once that's worked out, we're golden. Maybe in a firmware update they can make it an officially supported feature...
@wiredupretro
@wiredupretro 7 ай бұрын
I'm getting it figured out- stay tuned...
@melissahumes4912
@melissahumes4912 2 күн бұрын
@@wiredupretro Did you ever find a way to remap buttons? Possibly an aftermarket software? I have an 8bitdo sn30 pro controller and cannot get it to work for the life of me. I know theres got to be a way. I just haven't dug enough yet.
@wiredupretro
@wiredupretro 2 күн бұрын
@melissahumes4912 Check out the last 2 videos pertaining to programmable controller adapters I've put up on my channel having to do with the Atari Gamestation Pro. The key to the lock has been turned!
@melissahumes4912
@melissahumes4912 2 күн бұрын
@@wiredupretro if it is the adapter G3 (I think), I can’t seem to find it anywhere. On their site it is out of stock and I can’t find it on Amazon anywhere.
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 11 ай бұрын
If that paddle controller works in mame, i can finally play arkanoid, tempest, and guerrila war correctly.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Not yet.
@marccaselle8108
@marccaselle8108 11 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp darn lol.
@darkwombat333
@darkwombat333 11 ай бұрын
Do we know if the Gamestation Pro controllers work while plugged in? Sorry if it was mentioned already.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
Do they work plugged into what?
@DryPaperHammerBro
@DryPaperHammerBro 11 ай бұрын
​@@GenXGrownUpProbably meant plugged into the system itself, so that you can use them whilst charging
@darkwombat333
@darkwombat333 11 ай бұрын
@@DryPaperHammerBro yes thats what I meant
@jengelenm
@jengelenm 11 ай бұрын
I actually didn’t understand why you don’t use your thumb and trigger finger for the Pro Controller, as how i saw on your stream. Because you said the layout of B & C button was not convenient. I think i saw you using your pointer finger for the B button on top of the stick…
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I've tried it both ways. That grip just isn't as comfortable to me as holding the base of the controller in my right palm.
@MarcusBeebe
@MarcusBeebe 11 ай бұрын
Have you plug the Game station Pro to a computer via usb and what was the result?
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
I was plugged into a small four-port hub for this video. Worked fine.
@MarcusBeebe
@MarcusBeebe 11 ай бұрын
@@GenXGrownUp Not the controller but the system.
@GenXGrownUp
@GenXGrownUp 11 ай бұрын
@@MarcusBeebe Ah, I see. Yes, I have connected it to the PC in order to update the firmware.
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