Geoff Doesn't Buy Cars - Why was this auction SO ANNOYING?

[@GeoffBuysCars]

When I hit 115,000 subscribers there will be a TREASURE HUNT. I will film a video that will premiere at 9am on a given Saturday, and in that video I will leave a car and the keys at a location. Watch the video, go get the car - but film yourself on your mission. I’ll then edit everyone’s footage into a montage of crazy and we will see who gets the car! So click subscribe on KZbin. Thanks!

[@G58]

You’re describing sniper discrimination mate. But Yank tanks can be a serious nightmare. Thankfully sniper discrimination doesn’t happen on eBay. You’re right, the only way to bid is last minute sniping. Have won lots of cool items with that plan.

[@TheResidentResonance]

Great idea, i will join in.

[@Ki_Won]

30 seconds left? I only ever bid when there's

[@davidmwood560]

You just had a lucky escape. Those 350 diesels are absolutely dreadful. Noisy, unreliable, parts are almost impossible, and they go through injectors like disposable lighters. They also tend to burn oil big time. The petrol version was a fabulous car, and mpg figures were about the same. A petrol Oldsmobile 350 will run for a million miles if looked after, the diesel is likely to mash its head gaskets after about 100k. Think yourself lucky

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Thanks so much for this, I am now feeling like I dodged a bullet here.

[@brianjones1151]

100 % !! .👍

[@rbnhd1144]

Just read your post, Congrats you beat me to it, we know the truth, Nice one.

[@breseler]

@@GeoffBuysCars You could have put the Renault 10 in the boot/trunk as a 'lifeboat'...😆

[@brianperkins7593]

​@@GeoffBuysCarsGeoff, it should be cheap and easy to drop a Chevy V8 petrol engine in there as a replacement.

[@adrianduffen600]

That extending auction is done on many online auction sites. It has its pros and cons. In reality, it makes it a bit like a normal auction at the end.

[@Fanakapan222]

Put in a bid at a real live auction that you dont intend to honour, and I'd imagine problems could ensue ? Do the same in an online auction, and nothing much will happen to you, something which numbers of thrill seekers have discovered. Having a finite period in online auctions is a way of making the risks of either loss or gain comparable to that which exists in physical auctions. Auctions are meant to be ever so slightly risky for the seller, and attract bidders by the possibility of scoring a bargain.

[@paul_nwsxs]

It was going to a money pit , it’s a 5.7 litre diesel which was based on the small block oldsmobile 350 petrol engine, GM in the USA realised very quickly it was a bad engine and started swooping out the diesel and fitted a 350 small block in its place Admittedly it’s a surviving example but terrible engine

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I'll do some more digging on this engine now that i'm reading these comments, I thnik i'm glad I swerved it. Plus, it's white, and white is not a colour!

[@dkstudioart]

My Mom had one of those (Delta 88), it was nothing but a headache, I was constantly working on the damn thing, I hated it so bad. My Dad had a Toronado with the same engine but I didn't have to work on it until my brother inherited it, he didn't keep it long, got frustrated with it pretty quickly. Only my Dad loved diesel engines enough to put up with those pieces of crap, (he was an independent truck driver/mechanic).

[@paulb4uk]

@@GeoffBuysCars They are said to be bead engines i am sure junkyard digs had a diesel at one point.

[@barryj388]

Yeah, those engines had a terrible reputation even when relatively new.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@GeoffBuysCars Indeed, white is often various different shades of white :D

[@FlexDRG]

It's quite normal for online auctions to extend after a last minute bid. It's practically the same with in person auctions. With each bid they look for others to do a higher bid. And depending on how active the bidding is, as well as if there are 2 bidders left and they can see the other thinking and discussing they give it a bit of extra time, or push them with the "going once" etc.

[@LewieLeway]

I agree. I have no idea what the whinge is here. The terms are stated clearly. If you were the seller you would love the idea of the extension. This is how it should be done on ALL auction platforms. It would help do away with the sniper software.

[@Fanakapan222]

@@LewieLeway The whole point of an auction is that its an immediate test of price point on the day, and so can be either a win for the vendor, or a buyer bargain. Whilst I'd accept your point about a real being there auction allowing for the auctioneer to drag things out, the online situation is rather different ? Basically if a vendor is scared of not making his price point of happiness, then put it in the classifieds.

[@LewieLeway]

@@Fanakapan222 I think you've skipped one of my points. Sniper software. When they are used it takes away the auction aspect. In effect, Geoff was attempting a similar thing. Putting the '3 minute extra' if there's been a last minute bid, negates using sniper software. Online is totally different to an actual auction. That is a test of price on the day. Online you can bid for days/weeks.

[@Fanakapan222]

@@LewieLeway Sniping just serves to make the online variety of auctions carry something like the same risk of disappointed sellers, or loss for tardy bidders, that real auctions present. Bidders need to decide their limit, and vendors need to accept that whilst they may make a good price, its equally likely they may get a spanking. If online is totally different then dont call it an auction. We could also debate the issue of shill bidding that occurs online, something that's all too easy in the virtual world, but much harder and illegal in the real world.

[@LewieLeway]

@@Fanakapan222 They can call it what they like. That's the point here isn't it? The site makes the rules. You read the rules. If you don't like them you walk away. I don't agree with sniping software which means I would lean towards the kind of site we are talking about here. You prefer the sniping, so you lean towards those kind of sites. The adding extra time way is nearer to an actual auction than sniping. If you're in the room and you bid last minute, then the auctioneer asks the room again if they are all finished. He doesn't take that last minute bid and slam the gavel down.

[@angelamarynicz7865]

Hadn't thought about getting rid of cash by destroying the post office. But makes sense.

[@isaaclang6031]

Geoff, it has 4 headlights, and 4 turn signals 🤣. It's styled to look like a reflection. It's probably what inspired the National Lampoon vacation car.

[@DAVIDE-bk8by]

Yeah, it's called a soft close. I sometimes bid on abandoned storage units and they do the same thing. Pain in the arse.

[@kellyeye7224]

I've seen this 'extended bidding' on UK auction sites too (not car auctions though) - usually for a period of 10 minutes upwards!

[@BiznessWizard]

Geoff, walk away and realize you not getting that car was a blessing in disguise. I owned one of those back in the day. It was given to me by my father-in-law who had bought it new and had had it with the many problems with that 5.7 diesel. It is a giant boat anchor. GM took a 350 small block gas engine and thought they could beef up the crank, put diesel heads on it and raise the compression ratio to 21/1. Then in true GM fashion they used the buying public as a test bed for the engine. Once read that GM put that engine in 10 cars and put a total of 300K combined miles on them before releasing it to the public.

[@farmerned6]

Copart live auctions extend have a countdown , but extend on late bids REAL auctions work the same way

[@TJBRENTON]

Normal practice for equipment auctions to extend auction until everyone has hit their limit. It benefits the vendor and auction house, so its no great surprise. Think about it, its closer to a normal auction which you attend. You've Oldmobiled a bullet here Geoff!

[@johnstonstewart9683]

I did wonder why the post office thing was suddenly thrust into the public eye and was suspicious as to what they were diverting everyone's attention from, you're probably correct.....

[@philiplindley7384]

This is something that goes on in America all the time, sad to see it's happening over here too.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

It happens is real auctions - the bids keep going while there are bidders. I find eBay more annoying as it's like a sealed bid - which I also hate.

[@ronashman8463]

New Zealand too.

[@toucheturtle3840]

National Lampoons Vacation…it’s hilarious 😂

[@powerwheelscd]

B-body Wagons got 12" Front Brakes. These were pulled at the junk yard to use on Lighter G-body cars (that had 10.5" brakes) G-body's were the Old's Cutlass, Monte Carlo and Buick Regal that became the Grand National.

[@MadIIMike]

Maybe you could make a video asking the audience if they have something interesting to sell. Cutting off the auction fees etc. might be worth a shot.

[@SWLW436]

I know what you mean, had this on an online classic auction. It was explained to me that in the old days of face to face, the auctioneer would look around the room etc, talk up any final bids, then someone may put their hand up with a higher bid and then it starts again till the hammer goes down. Caught me off guard like you tho!

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Totally, i've been to enough auctions where you can look each other in the eye and it becomes kinda fun. But for me the whole thing with winning online is refreshing the screen and trying to game the system at the last minute - it took all the fun outta it!

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@GeoffBuysCars LOL, sounds like eBay.

[@piotrkozbial8753]

​@@GeoffBuysCarsFun? Cheating I call it.

[@portland-182]

Geoff have a laugh by increasing a bid by £1 in the last 30 seconds, and keep doing it - virtual keepie up auction :)

[@r6ymy]

Collecting Cars run their online auctions the same way, adding three minutes to the auction end time if the highest bid is made within three minutes of the scheduled end. I had this on a classic Alfa I was trying to buy a little over a year ago. I was outbid 6 times in the ongoing 3 minute extensions, one only 8 seconds before it was due to end. It was painful.

[@ecoterrorist1402]

just told the wife it's holiday or me on eBay purchasing a 350LC her quote "poor move, bet you sleep with one eye open" 🤣🤣🤣

[@boneav83]

Id be buying the bike.

[@668725]

I had an Oldsmobile regency 88 diesel until it got nicked, it was ok but the sump had to be re done twice because it got blown off. Same with the dip stick, it was basically a petrol engine just with diesel heads, but not as bad as everyone is making out.

[@jamesblair9614]

Consider yourself lucky, the Olds attempt at building their own diesel pretty much killed the market for diesels. If this car still has it’s original diesel, it’s a rare bird, which makes it a real oddity. It’s another case of General Motors doing their research and development utilizing their customers as guinea pigs.

[@rbnhd1144]

I agree with you, America had been through the Gas Crisis and seen diesels in Europe so GM took short cuts, I doubt anythings changed over at GM, Id never buy another New GM car, still love the 70s-80s Olds Pontiacs and Caddys. I worked at a Chevy Old's Caddy dealer in the 70's, the cars had issue's but I look back on them fondly, we once got a new Chevy Impala with Impala badges on one side and Pontiac Bonneville badges on the other, I loved the 76 Cadillac Coupe Deville, it was an impressive car to me as a recent immigrant, My Dad had a 72 Pontiac Bonneville with a 454, that's over 7 litre's of motor, it drove lovely, Id glide down the service road late to pick up my Dad from work at 120 mph... My Dad sold the Bonneville to another Brit who forgot to put oil in it, it fried sadly.

[@mguzzi5149]

Yes, if I remember correctly, the "development" process for the conversion of that block to diesel was for the engineers to convert one system after another - injectors, pistons, bearings, etc., and just run them to failure. They worked on successive total failures until they achieved some acceptable lifespan for the diesel redesign

[@willtaylor6112]

It's the same with salvage auctions, it adds so much time everyone bids. Not even an auction anymore

[@CMDRSweeper]

We still want to see the video from "Geoff Steals Cars" where you demonstrate the easy stealing of a Land / Range Rover :P For reference, the joke you mentioned when dynoing the track day car.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Lemme work on this one!

[@larryjimbob]

Mrs Geoff must love you like we all do. That's why we're here dude 😊🙏♥️

[@Chrisamic]

Look at it from the seller's point of view, putting in snipe bids right at the end just means that someone who was maybe willing to bid higher will miss out. In a real auction, bidding keeps going for as long as people bid. Some auction sites still allow sniping (ebay) but auctions for larger ticket items like cars, and online auctions being run by actual auction houses do not if they are able to prevent it. So yeah, just bid what you are willing to pay and leave it at that. In this case my feeling is that you dodged a bullet on this one anyway. Let someone else have the headaches that vehicle is sure to create. You could still put in a snipe bid before the three minutes and maybe catch someone napping, but not if they are interested enough to be watching the close of the auction. Yes I've been sniped a few times myself, but I wouldn't have paid more than what my own snipe bid was worth. It is what it is... You just try again later and eventually you will get what you want. There's lots of cars out there, and better bargains to be had.

[@hpd385tannoylover2]

I'm with you. An online auction should end when the time is up. I'll never bid in one.

[@boneav83]

Yeah, id never use that site ever again. Imagine eBay did that. Its utter horseshit.

[@nightynightjill]

I've had two B-Body Station Wagons, I had the Chevrolet Caprice Estate Wagon, and the Buick Electra Estate Wagon. Both beautiful cars, I remember the Chevy was the most troublesome with starting.....whereas the Buick was a dream, that also had a 5.7L lump in it, and would really shift! - I saw that white Olds B-Body you mention, very nice, but a touch too early for me, (both mine were the same shape but both 1989-90 models) (Nicer aesthetics) plus, I do love the faux wood both of mine had, and of course, were both petrol not the troublesome, fragile diesel.

[@ArcanePath360]

Sounds like a great system for the seller. It's pretty much like the auction that you go to though... the person with the gavel will read the room if there are last minute bidders. I personally don't have a problem with it, so long as they are up front about it beforehand to avoid disappointment.

[@roblonsdale8927]

Trouble with the live auction is when the auctioneer,s crony is winning it gets knocked down so quick, and vise versa if he does nt like the winning bidder

[@ArcanePath360]

@@roblonsdale8927 I wouldn't know, I've never been to one

[@hoboonwheels9289]

Your wife hit the jackpot, now you can go with her on holiday! Having worked and bid at an automotive auction I've been stung with putting in an absentee bid and it bid started at my bid, rip off. I find hysterical people "win" a bid, now they pay😂

[@theharshtruth1893]

Quite like the Idea of stopping people sniping you at the last second, I've been on both ends and frankly only happens when you are trying to get something unreasonably cheap. Just bid a price you are happy to pay and take your chance

[@baobo67]

Agree with your gripe. Thanks for warning us. Cheers

[@Mariazellerbahn]

Re: Post Office "gate" ..... You could understand it if one or two postmasters were fiddling the till BUT thousands of postmasters at the same time? Why hasn't anyone brought that fact up?

[@rbnhd1144]

Dam Geoff, I was looking at that auction in the last week, I saw that Olds wagon and thought of you, but the diesel engine put me off, they were junk, GM didn't sell many of them as they had head issues early on, these failures put America off Diesel cars, its why we have so few of them. I have owned 3 petrol engined Oldsmobile's, 65 Vista Criuser through 82 Cutlass Supreme, all were awesome, but GM's Diesels were pieces of poop, GM customers had many problems with them, I heard some folks tore out the motors and installed petrol engines. I had no clue that auction site worked like that, its so wrong and the only one I've ever seen like that. It looks like you had a lucky break pal, GM wagons of that day were fab with a tailgate that opened sideways and down on the same car... good luck one day you'll get one...

[@arcticradio]

You should see the old cars sitting around the forests of Finland. Honestly it’s crazy what is here.

[@ben539090]

Normal in online property auctions, it helps make sure their customer (the seller) gets the maximum amount.

[@JohnS-sn2sd]

Extending the auction is common over here in Europe. There are a few sites that do it and it drives me mad. Sometimes in the past, I have been stuck to the computer for a good 10 hours because the auction keeps extending. Just to name a couple - BVA auctions. Catawiki auctions. I personally, don't think it's done to allow others to up their bid. More like it's done to just to push the price up and therefore the auction house gets a bigger cut.

[@bobstirling6885]

Copart car auctions work on endless extensions until only one bidder remains, then they negotiate if reserve has not been met.

[@kerryrouse9039]

Geoff. If you were at a live auction bidding continues until there is only one bidder left. Same in an online auction. They give you a closing time so all the interested bibbers are there ready. But they should tell you if it has a reserve by the owner. Not the amount but that it may not sell. Good luck next time.

[@rodkubo5679]

That diesel was built off a gas engine. You saved money and headache. We owned a version of that vehicle, very sad I can say. I'm from Central California.

[@steviebaby12121212]

The french car was made by a company called Rollskinardly. It rolls down hills but can hardly make it up a hill.

[@pedtrog6443]

Gotta disagree with you there Geoff about auto extend auctions. It means it's not a competition for who can get their bid in in the last second. Online auction site Trademe in New Zealand works the same way. Most people know how the game works. A week or so to let people look at things and the last half an hour or 5 minutes to get your bidding done. Just as a live, in person auction works. The auction doesn't finish to a time, it finishes when everyone else but the winner had dropped out.

[@nicnak4475]

Copart operate a similar system in their auctions, probably because some have 'sniper programs' that can bid at the very last second, so preventing others from bidding again and of course to rake more money in for themselves.

[@mossig]

I think that is a good idea with the extended time. Because people use bid robots.

[@jeremyashford2145]

You can get used to auctions extending but the real pain in the arse is people who just bid at the end and force the extension so you might end up with the auction overrunning by half an hour or more. eBay does not extend. NZ’s auction site trademe does. I have had a lot of time wasted by late bidders. I do not wait until an auction will auto extend to make my bid, I always allow time for others to counter. The real pains are those who get a bid in in the last second, ensuring a full extension period each time they bid. I suspect it might be a bidding tactic, to wear out your opponent. To be fair extensions make an auction an auction whereas no extensions really make the auction an open tender process.

[@murrayblair67]

Geoff!! You made me buy an old car!!! Won it :20:00hr friday night Drove 300mls to Leeds for the range rover classic tdi manual! She’s rotten But you gotto love then! Then drove the L322 home towing the classic! That’s EXACTLY what Range rovers are for! They have their place! 27mpg and 4970kg 💪💪

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Yes! What’s your plans with it? Email me a photo 👍👍👍

[@roblonsdale8927]

I have a mate who has a barn stored never used range r body shell, was used as a test bed in a wiring firm

[@user-xq5tm9jr4r]

You are right, an auction should finish at the stated time.

[@basbass429]

haha i understand your frustration. But this stops people from putting all together low ball offers in the last 30 seconds. Which is really really good for the seller.

[@paul_nwsxs]

The Oldsmobile Diesel engine is a series of V6 and V8 diesel engines produced by General Motors from 1978 to 1985. Their design was based on the Olds 350 gasoline engine architecture. A 350 cu in (5.7 L) V8 was introduced in 1978, followed by a 261 cu in (4.3 L) V8 only for the 1979 model year. In 1982, a 263 cu in (4.3 L) V6 became available for both front front-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive vehicles. Sales peaked in 1981 at approximately 310,000 units, which represented 60% of the total U.S. passenger vehicle diesel market. This success was short-lived as the V8 version suffered severe reliability issues. Although GM carried out several redesigns, by the time the engine was trouble-free, the damage to its reputation had been done, and it was discontinued after the 1985 model year. The later design V6 diesel did not have the problems of the V8. Very few engines had more impact on the American light diesel market than the Oldsmobile 350 V8. Problems One Oldsmobile engineer who had worked on the V8 diesel told his bosses not to release the hastily developed engine. Needing to meet upcoming CAFE standards, GM forced him into early retirement and released the engine nonetheless.[2] Simultaneous problems with GM's new THM200 automatic transmission made the overall problem worse. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) had been unable to certify the diesel V8 for sale in the state in 1979 and early 1980 as the test cars issued to CARB broke down before the tests could be completed. Of the nine cars supplied to CARB, all suffered engine problems and seven had transmission failures.[2] Myriad lawsuits were filed as several grassroots groups formed to try to get General Motors to acknowledge the issues.[2] In 1980 the Federal Trade Commission filed a complaint which included the diesel engine issues and the transmission troubles, as well as camshaft issues with gasoline V8s.[2] General Motors kept marketing the diesel to the fullest, with 19 of the 23 Oldsmobile models in 1981 being available with the 5.7 diesel.[3] The sales and reliability woes were compounded by a decline in gas prices as well as fuel quality issues, including large volumes of diesel fuel containing water or foreign particles.[4] A class action lawsuit eventually forced General Motors to pay up to 80 percent of the costs of new engines. A large number of cars simply had their broken diesels replaced with conventional gasoline engines. Used car price guides have always indicated much lower prices for diesel-engined cars and they remain undesirable in the collector's market.[5] The Oldsmobile diesel's reputation for unreliability and anemic performance damaged the North American passenger diesel market for the next 30 years.[6][7] Design & Flaws While designing the original 350 cu in diesel, Oldsmobile left the head bolt design and pattern unchanged to enable them to use the same tooling as for the gasoline engines, unlike a proper gasoline to diesel conversion.[8] This led to catastrophic head bolt failures as diesel engines have compression ratios that are as much as three times higher than a gasoline engine.[8] In addition to the head bolt issues, General Motors also decided not to install a water separator in order to cut costs.[8] Low quality diesel fuel was a common problem at the time and most diesels were thus equipped to keep the injector pumps from corroding. Many owners tried to solve this by adding anhydrous alcohol, a common trick to deal with water in fuel, but this instead dissolved fuel pump seals and other parts. The stretchy fuel-pump timing chain was a minor problem in light of the other issues. Poor dealer service training only made all the problems worse.[8] General Motors also carried out several redesigns of the V8's heads, bolts, and various other parts, but by the time the engine was trouble-free the reputation damage had already been done. The later 4.3-liter V6 engine, which arrived for the 1982 model year, did not have the same problems as the V8. The V6 has a denser bolt pattern and Oldsmobile's engineers were given more time to develop and test it.[8]

[@bentullett6068]

Geoff if your wife wants a holiday may I suggest Malta. She can enjoy the sun whilst you find interesting old cars (still some hiding around back streets from 1950's-2000's). If you do purchase a car there you could drive it back by catching the ferry from Malta to Italy.

[@aionphriend]

Sweet I'll check that out im off next week.

[@therealunclevanya]

Cyprus taxis are often 80s Mercs, look great but probably stellar mileages

[@aionphriend]

@@therealunclevanya doubt I'll find an sl55 gull wing. 😁

[@bentullett6068]

@@aionphriend you sometimes see them driving around but if you walk around the streets and back streets you will notice them

[@nelsonv741]

My Dad got a 1978 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser (88) new. We made it go till it had 150,000 miles before it went to scrap. It wouldn't break often but when it did, it was really expensive to fix. All in all, I think you are lucky you didn't get the car! That car or more generally that engine put a really bad mark on diesel cars in general here in the states that I would argue persists even now. I had 2 of the 1990's VW Jetta cars with diesels, and although they had practically no get up and go, they got terrific mileage and were reliable too.

[@tonydalton6756]

It seems to happen with all online auctions these days pal. Only Ebay doesn't as far as I'm aware.

[@Con-Brio]

Thats how the auction works on Collecting Cars too... 2 mins added on if bid within last 2 mins.

[@warrensmith4590]

If doing a track day, change the other tyres this time to have a matching set

[@Mariazellerbahn]

9:58 Only four headlights. The ones below are sidelights and indicators.

[@Exiledk]

Extensions are the way to stop people using the "sniping" auto-bidding software that bids on the last second. Personally, I think that's a good thing.

[@Paul-67]

Hi Geoff, if that Oldsmobile has a 5.7 V8 in it beware, they are a gasoline derived engine and prone to faults-ie head gasket failure. I had a Chevy pickup with that diesel engine in. In America they are known as “lemons” I had nothing but trouble with mine.

[@jackytwix]

Am I the only one who thinks Geoff was about the live out some kind of ‘ griswald family vacation’ fantasy in his Oldsmobile land barge

[@JohnDavis-ed5sg]

Yes, I really liked this but left it as it was in France I decided it was too much hassle. £4000 would have been good though. I've had this extension thing on Bidspotter too and it's very annoying. I sell a lot on Ebay and often things shoot up in the last seconds. But I must say that in an in-person auction the bids go on until only one buyer is left.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I really don't mind when it's in person, there's usually banter with the gent on the rostrum too. Tell me an auction to go to!

[@JohnDavis-ed5sg]

@@GeoffBuysCars Go to Anglia Car Auctions at King's Lynn, especially the Classic Car Sales - one on Jan 27th/28th. Good auctioneer, fast and fun. I'd say 'see you there' but I'm moving house on the 26th. Great channel by the way!

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I may well do actually. Keeping an eye on the catalogue.@@JohnDavis-ed5sg

[@stevet2342]

@@JohnDavis-ed5sg I used to live in Lynn, I bought by third card from there. And as Geoff mention Top Gear they bought the cars for the classic car rally challenge from it as well.

[@TomTwain]

Geoff... trust me... you dodged a bullet 😉

[@KeithFLOOK-wd3uw]

This sounds like it is standard car auction that has online bidding too.. the auction goes on until only one person is interested at that bid. What you seem to be expecting is an ebay type of auction.. try going to car auctions like BCA to see how car auctions operate.

[@daverickards7647]

Copart are exactly the same ( bonus time ) where people come in and out bid you .WORG .

[@jonfuller806]

the BCA runs the auctions for the DVLA on their cherished numbers, and do it the same way, if you bid within the final 30 mins, the end time slides by another 30 mins.

[@cutsqwishsqwish3724]

Singing to the choir here buddy . Auctions should end on time is my thoughts as well.

[@Karl_Burton]

Probably for the best. Notice the proportion of seating space, to car length

[@tokairic3925]

Pretty obviously the auction organisers make a percentage of the selling price, so the higher the price goes the more they make. The photo you showed has a 'reserve not met' at 3000 euros. I never bid on reserve not met, as the reserve is usually pretty high for the item.

[@Mariazellerbahn]

There is also no point in having an auction, if at the end the seller says that the highest bid isn't enough. If it isn't enough, then list it at a set price.

[@cwitechnical]

an auction finds the value of a product. too many people think theyre sitting on a gold bar when theyre really not, I agree, the auction rules for car and classic seem a bit odd, however i would love to see geoffs olympics!

[@Beauloqs]

The first time i came across this was buying bikes on Yahoo Japan about 7 years ago, nothing new .

[@StevensPaul]

Ha ha! I have two '77 Of these Custom Cruiser Wagons. Both are the Diesel 5.7/350 versions. I also have an '82 Nighty-Eight Regancy 4-Door. I eas given these cars by Customer's who originally dropped them off here @work to junk them. Some people don't like the 350 Olds Diesel but I have a few complete Engines from other cars that I've collected over the years. The "SAM--WHITE" Badge on the rear Gate is from Houston Texas. Sam White was at one time the second largest Oldsmobile Dealership in Texas. Also known as SAM WHITES MOTOR CITY was founded in 1948/9. I have several Oldsmobiles which came from that Dealership. The Dealership filed for Bankruptcy in 1998 and it's Property and Inventory seized.

[@dungareesareforfools]

To be fair, that's how a "real" auction works. I've always thought that eBay's way of doing it is a bit daft, and just encourages snipers. Although I agree, yes - it is very annoying because it can't be played 🙂.

[@robertdrinkwater7514]

Has anyone watched Prof. Paul Christensen Electric Vehicle Battery Fires. Just watched it on you tube

[@rocklover7437]

70,s Oldsmobile diesels V6 and V8 engines are terrible .Cracked blocks and blown head gasket problems .Not economical either .

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Thank you for this you are making me feel better, I did think it was an oddball choice for an engine! Plus, i'd really want to use it - pile some miles no it, so probably for the best.

[@Glamrock01]

In theory then the auction will never end!....🧐

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Ha ha, yeah you're right!

[@saxon-mt5by]

Sorry Geoff, most on-line auctions extend the time if there's a last-minute bid. After all, the idea is to get as high a price as possible, so giving other bidders the chance to increase their bid makes sense.

[@secretlifeofamillionaire2315]

Problem with online auction sites, people reserve them at market rate not understanding people go on auction wanting a bargain/taking a risk in doing so. Collecting Cars is one of those, I bought a rare car from there and the counter kept going up very frustrating when paying £145k.

[@mattdedasc]

same happens on collectingcars. I was watching a few 911s and they all add a few minutes.

[@ghost70]

I would be peeved too, sounds like they have put that in to stop the bidding snipper programs which are a pain in ebay.

[@GregoryTKint]

Sam from Behind The Glass recently explained this. He experienced exactly the same buying his Ferrari Challenge Stradale.

[@edshedrestorations]

At a real auction you are present and bidding live until. The highest bidder Wins. The cut off time is the crap like eBay. Used to sell you the phantom bidder system that you pay eBay.again.

[@philbaldwin7190]

Same on DVLA number plate auction.

[@mossig]

Geoff you can buy my Cutlass 1980 4 door diesel. White with with vinyl top and beige interior. It runs and drives, but are in middle of Sweden. LHD. Price is 40 000:- sek, About 4000 euro. I have other odd unique cars as well I have collected but are getting old and want to move to a warmer climate.

[@davidclarke9767]

You want to ask the Mc Master if you can run around in his milk float whilst he's away, at least you will keep his battery topped up.

[@rustycopperpot]

Demolition Man is on the telly. It’s got an exploding electric car in it!

[@Xx-yk6cu]

Stops people bid sniping like ebay. Very sensible.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

But that's the fun of it!

[@piotrkozbial8753]

​@@GeoffBuysCarsFun isn't the point. It's about reaching a fair price.

[@Ady11000]

This could be an end to snipping , having lost out to snipers on endless bids this is good news for me .

[@brybry2k11]

Being fair I've bought more cars as a private punter, but your videos are very interesting 👍

[@roblonsdale8927]

I hate auctions, much prefer buying private without an effing audience

[@MichaelKettleson]

Goeff that steering wheel on your X5 drives me op the wall😁 please clean off the old dye and re-dye it with BMW Dakota black Cheap and cheerful repair.

[@tomosbon7347]

Those early diesel engines were not really designed as diesel engines- they were converted gasoline engines- lots of trouble.

[@gregoryandersonmotorsports]

I remember that general motors disaster. GM converted a standard gas 350 to diesel to save money on developing a new engine, it was a piece of crap. The same engineering group also came up with the original cylinder drop for fuel mileage the "4-6-8" v8. Run away! like monty python

[@philparmenter53]

It's the same with bumblebee auctions, they add time if you bid within the last few minutes

[@animal355]

Consider it as a lucky escape. Not known as a reliable engine, the petrol with LPG conversion would be a better version.

[@BillyTheKidsGhost]

Getting to open that rear tale gate is worth the 3000euro alone...

[@DanRobards]

Celicas are getting cheap at the moment. Mate just bought a beautiful example for £800!

[@GeoffBuysCars]

They don't do much for me sadly!

[@colinjones2505]

Proper proper geezer, telling the missus that a car purchase comes before a holiday.A holiday is for a week or two with nowt to show for it, wheras a car is for much longer and ....let's not go there.

[@blxtothis]

However Geoff, in a live auction, the bids end with a winner or the sale is withdrawn because of the reserve not being met, by it’s own logic it could be extended indefinitely if there are enough determined bidders.

[@ninja12lawbreaker]

4,000 FOR A 1979 American heap? You had a lucky escape Geoff