Sudbury & Harrow Road - London's NEW Least Used Station

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Geoff Marshall

Geoff Marshall

Күн бұрын

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@SavvasPapasavva
@SavvasPapasavva Ай бұрын
It was a nice surprise to bump into you that morning - made a very mundane commute a bit more interesting. In S&HR's defence, I can get to work in KX 20minutes quicker than if I get the piccadilly line which can take over 50 minutes station to station, and sometimes involved me standing for most of the journey. Unfortunately those Chiltern stations are not well advertised or presented, and a reminder why staffed stations are so important. There were rumouring's of a Chiltern metro 20+ years ago but that never materialised. But as you noted the line has ample room for four tracks in many places, plus I think a bit actually connects up with the proposed West London Orbital near Neasden. The 10:19 also stops at Wembley Stadium which gets a lot more passengers. If that line were to be modernised, diesel trained removed from service, homes built nearby where there is space, it would make a very nice addition to the London overground and take some of the traffic off the A40 from High Wycombe. We can only hope. Anyway, fun fact - there was a bit of architectural ruins from the old station to the side of the public toilet (12:51) but it was hidden by the van. Next time you are there it's worth looking at.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
Ha ha! Helllo! So lovely to meet you and thanks for chatting - and for commenting here as well!!! Always good to have proper commuter knowledge 👍 will go back and check out the old building part!
@nickgiles7568
@nickgiles7568 Ай бұрын
If Mayor Khan has his way and all stations within the London area come under the control of TfL then things may change and a metro type service could become a possibility although costly as the fast lines would need to be reinstated. I have no doubt that Chiltern would happily give up serving these stations but I suspect this is a contractual obligation as part of the franchise agreement. When Chiltern gets absorbed into GBR or whatever it will be called then things may be different.
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 Ай бұрын
@@nickgiles7568 The line never had four tracks. It just had two through tracks for express trains and loops for the stations (though not at Northolt Park). When the Great Central main line closed the express trains ceased and the straight through tracks were lifted, leaving the loops to serve the stations with the remaining stopping service. The resulting wiggly track proved to be a nuisance when fast trains were reintroduced, so the through tracks were reinstated, the loops lifted and the platforms edges moved. Only the section between Northolt Junction (South Ruislip) and West Ruislip was ever properly four-track - now reduced to three. In places there's space for four tracks, but for most of the route only two. The controversial Tesco tunnel at Gerrard's Cross was built to accommodate four electrified tracks though!
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
As others have said, this is absolutely classic/retro Geoff and something I've really missed! Reminds me of a time gone by when life was much more difficult for me and these least-used station videos were so exciting and special, helping me a lot. So thankful that life is better now! Who else was here in the Angel Road days?! haha (P.S. It's not about the tube being more aesthetically attractive, if the service increases at the Chiltern stations, the passengers will undoubtedly come!)
@lukeedwards8599
@lukeedwards8599 21 күн бұрын
Yes was thinking that you can to Birmingham or Oxford on that line so if they do that surely that would make it attractive to people especially if the apartments are nearby even if they only stopped bi-hourly after 10am until sat 4pm.
@richardfurness7556
@richardfurness7556 Ай бұрын
The Station House pub in Durham has a real-time departures screen. It even tells you how many minutes you've got left to finish your drink if you want to be on the platform in time to catch each train.
@walkingtheboogie
@walkingtheboogie Ай бұрын
There is one in Salisbury opposite the station that does that. I used it earlier this summer when I had a wait between trains.
@davidjordan7964
@davidjordan7964 Ай бұрын
It also far more importantly has incredible beer selection. Strongly recommend.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart Ай бұрын
That's such a brilliant idea - I do like my tipple, but have no smartphone, so I'm always dependent on the trains.
@markbertenshaw3977
@markbertenshaw3977 Ай бұрын
The same goes with The Dorich Arch just outside Euston Station.
@richardmackey8366
@richardmackey8366 Ай бұрын
Curiously this is also a feature of the Brookmill, which is the closest pub to St John’s. It’s hardly a busy station and most people who use it will be catching a train to go to work well before the pub opens, so who knows why the departure board is there. Perhaps the owner really likes trains?
@BenC-vr2wi
@BenC-vr2wi Ай бұрын
That's my local station and I'm a regular user! Very proud that Sudbury and Harrow road has taken the title back lol. Love it! Very quick to and from Marylebone but the infrequency of trains is a drawback.
@koputai
@koputai Ай бұрын
That’s some classic Geoff, love it.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
that's very kind, thank you!
@a11oge
@a11oge Ай бұрын
for station that had little in it. No car park, no allotments, not even sure there was litter bin, you still managed to make the video interesting and fun. Top work as always
@darrenbertram7289
@darrenbertram7289 Ай бұрын
6:57 are the litter bins 🙂
@a11oge
@a11oge Ай бұрын
@@darrenbertram7289 i knew I should have doublechecked
@cannyexplorer5357
@cannyexplorer5357 Ай бұрын
This line was a life/ job saver when in the early 1980’s the tube fares went sky rocking during the Fares Fair scandal of 1981/1982. Overnight my tube fare cost tripled and it was the Marylebone line under British Rail, that got me to and from London every day for work. Yes it was quicker and that I had a 20 minute walk to work from Marylebone Station and back again each day. But it was so much more enjoyable than the very over crowded tube I had had to use. In fact when the fares went back to normal on the tube I did not change back to the tube but carried on using the Marylebone line for the next three years. My station was a little known one then Wembley Complex now called Wembley Stadium, very hidden gem in those days. The train was the slam door type, old but very comfortable and you always got a seat.
@IRNSBRU
@IRNSBRU Ай бұрын
As someone who grew up and lived by Northolt Park station for most of my life, I can tell you that ticket machine hasn’t been working for years!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Ай бұрын
I love this series because it feels like a fun outing for all of us.
@chineymo
@chineymo Ай бұрын
I always get a kick out of watching you sprawling on the ground or a train floor, you're like a cat stretching out (and I'm a dog person 😅) but it still makes me smile. Your enthusiasm is priceless 😊
@Robslondon
@Robslondon Ай бұрын
Great video Geoff. I grew up in this area and this station barely registered with me back then- was Piccadilly line all the way! Wish I’d given it more consideration now.
@francisjoussot3521
@francisjoussot3521 Ай бұрын
I used to use the Sudbury & Harrow road station to go to school back in 1968/1969 and travel into Marylebone. Back in those days it was very old station was in a very bad state .I see in your video that the original ground level station building has been demolished. The platform level waiting room still had gas lighting! The frequency of the trains was very poor even back then. Often the early morning train was packed and we were forced to travel in the goods compartment. Happy Days.
@francishuddy9462
@francishuddy9462 Ай бұрын
Really!? My mum is from Sudbury Hill, so I knew the area back in the 1970s. It was not 'in a bad state,' merely two platforms. What more do you expect?
@JudgeGeneHunt
@JudgeGeneHunt Ай бұрын
That video brings back memories. I used to work at MW Kellogg (later KBR) who's office block (on the other side of Sudbury Hill Tube) used to be there. Often used to get the train from Sudbury Hill Harrow as the trains were a lot quicker and more comfortable than the Piccadilly line. And less crowded too.
@philiptaylor7902
@philiptaylor7902 Ай бұрын
Living near High Wycombe, Sudbury and Harrow Road is normally just a blur on the way into Marylebone. Thanks Geoff for giving it the treatment.
@davidclements7141
@davidclements7141 Ай бұрын
Thanks
@roboftherock
@roboftherock Ай бұрын
Geoff, since this is a M-F only service, the passengers per day figure is 72. That means an average of 9 per train - and you saw 10 of them get on one train. WOW!
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
ha ha, GOOD CALL! yes ... i did not think of that!
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Ай бұрын
0:24 It's the least used of all Sudbury's stations, which are in turn less used than that of Sudbury in Suffolk, but it's the one that got the best code SUD.
@toledo1850
@toledo1850 Ай бұрын
A lot of the stations on that line have the area in the middle to allow faster trains through, imagine if they had not removed them, how much better the timetable could be
@A60stock
@A60stock Ай бұрын
I used the line between Marylebone and High Wycombe between 1959 and 1962. Our train usually passed. Sudbury and Harrow Road on the fast line., there being 4 tracks in those days. It was an interesting period to travel for in 1959 we were hauled in compartment stock by 2-6-4 tank locos but by 1962 we had first generation DMUs and I would always try to sit at the front gain the same view of the line as the driver,
@beds139
@beds139 Ай бұрын
Blimey Geoff. That was a trip down memory lane for me. Thanks 😊😊😊
@beds139
@beds139 Ай бұрын
Northolt Park station was at the bottom of our road and we used to stand on the footbbridge watching the trains go past underneath...1960s.😀
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures Ай бұрын
As someone who uses the Chiltern Main Line as my primary route into London, I have to say its the only station on the line between Marylebone and Warwick Parkway I've not visited. I've visited Sudbury Hill Harrow a few times as I used to travel into London on one of the trains which stopped there and used to transfure to the Picadilly Line but that LNER sign wasn't there then.
@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759
@myonlydemandisbacktowork8759 Ай бұрын
This can be some of the least used transfer in London!😂
@ronfisher2-railwaytravelvideos
@ronfisher2-railwaytravelvideos Ай бұрын
See! You don't know what you've been missing!!
@tweygant
@tweygant Ай бұрын
I live north of Chicago and south of Milwaukee and I will probably never get to the UK and thoroughly enjoy Geoff's videos. 😊
@simonscott9043
@simonscott9043 Ай бұрын
I live in Harrow and would happily offer you a house swap....
@nickg2762
@nickg2762 Ай бұрын
4:10 I assume the LNER sign is referring to the historical L&NER of 1923-48? They did pass through Sudbury according to route maps
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 Ай бұрын
Yes, the Chiltern Main Line through the area between Neasden Junction and Northolt Junction was originally built by the Great Central Railway to connect Marylebone to the GW and GC Joint line through High Wycombe, which provided a connection with the GC main line north of Aylesbury in order to make the GCR less dependent on the Metropolitan Railway. The GCR was grouped into the LNER in 1923. The three stations featured were built by the LNER. My local national rail station is Northolt Park and I've been campaigning for Jago Hazzard to make an interesting video about it. Until he does it's nice that Geoff stepped in to fill the gap, despite him repeatedly getting the name wrong!
@caw25sha
@caw25sha Ай бұрын
It was on the pre grouping Great Central which became part of the LNER.
@Extreme_Rice
@Extreme_Rice Ай бұрын
Edmund Bird, the TFL Heritage Manager, gave a presentation to the LTM Friends on Monday Night where he mentioned that they’d added the replica LNER “fish-eye” as part of the recent refurbishment and step-free installation at Sudbury Hill. You can see it on KZbin - I presume Geoff had already filmed the video before that.
@OliverTurnerMSc
@OliverTurnerMSc Ай бұрын
Their social club is still down the road too
@tinealily
@tinealily Ай бұрын
Quite a lot of the stations on the Chiltern line have those gaps between the tracks, from where there used to be passing loops. It’s why the two platforms at Beaconsfield are so far apart from each other. I think at one point when the Chiltern Mainline was being developed there was chat about whether they’d reinstate some of those fast running tracks to aid with freeing up long distance pathing options
@zitzong
@zitzong Ай бұрын
Congratulations Sudbury & Harrow road station you made it to the top spot keep it up! You're kind of famous now!
@ricktownend9144
@ricktownend9144 Ай бұрын
Really enjoyed that; I can just remember the 1950s half-hourly train service from Marylebone, which I think called at all these stations, and - yes - at least some of the stations were four-tracked so that the expresses could shoot past the stopping trains. There must have been a staffed signal-box for each one, so I presume that was the reason for getting rid of the extra tracks - at that time there were no expresses to Birmingham any more.
@ronfisher2-railwaytravelvideos
@ronfisher2-railwaytravelvideos Ай бұрын
I once used to commute home to Sudbury & Harrow Road. I worked in Baker Street at the time, so would walk across to Marylebone and get a stopping train. It was compartment stock hauled by a 2-6-4T and they had to work hard up the gradients through the tunnels to where it parallels the Met. at Finchley Road. I always got a compartment to myself right behind the engine! Pity we didn't have mobile phones in those days; I would have loved to be able to record some of those journeys. The 18 bus didn't terminate there then; it went to Edgware via Harrow, so I could either get that or the 16 bus to take me home. I'll tell you what did terminate at Sudbury (The Swan) though, and that was the 662 trolleybus. Later, I shared a flat over one of the shops in Sudbury with a couple of friends and one of my flatmates used it regularly to commute to work. It certainly was four tracks through there and somewhat shortsighted of BR to alter it in the way that they did.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
Lovely memories Ron, thanks for sharing !! 😊
@ronfisher2-railwaytravelvideos
@ronfisher2-railwaytravelvideos Ай бұрын
@@geofftech2 Pity they're just memories!
@nathanhinchliffe
@nathanhinchliffe Ай бұрын
Went to a very good talk at the LTM the other night given by a TFL heritage manager, and he mentioned his team were behind that LNER sign as part of refurbishment works. 4:24
@J0sI-I
@J0sI-I Ай бұрын
I'm a local to Sudbury Hill, I'd much prefer chiltern but they don't come frequently enough and not at all on weekends :(
@brianparker663
@brianparker663 Ай бұрын
Exactly! 12 mins into Marylebone is a no brainer...but the problem is it's a no train-er! 😟
@nathanw9770
@nathanw9770 Ай бұрын
If you time the trains right you should have no problem using it. An hourly service is miles better than what a lot of station's get across the country.
@brianparker663
@brianparker663 Ай бұрын
@@nathanw9770 It doesn't get an hourly service - no trains at all in the middle of the day. Just a few in the morning and a few in the evening.
@EM-yk1dw
@EM-yk1dw Ай бұрын
Both Sudbury stations were on platform loops originally.
@michaellevenson2200
@michaellevenson2200 Ай бұрын
Geoff, have you considered doing a similar challenge to your Acton challenge, but for Harrow stations? How quick can you visit, these two stations in Sudbury plus, North Harrow , West Harrow, Harrow and Wealdstone, South Harrow and Harrow on the Hill
@anderzam4380
@anderzam4380 Ай бұрын
If there's no weekend service, shouldn't we divide by 261 instead of 365? That would give 71 passengers a day.
@drzander3378
@drzander3378 Ай бұрын
A lot of stations are closed Christmas and Boxing Day, so even 365 for stations with weekend services is potentially misleading. Perhaps it should be 363 days.
@trains-x5j
@trains-x5j Ай бұрын
Hi Geoff, brilliant video! thanks
@randomtrainfan6501
@randomtrainfan6501 Ай бұрын
A day when you upload geoff is always a good one. Every single one of your videos are amazing I love the least used station series and every video you make just makes any day a good one. Keep up the fantastic work geoff you are truly amazing and I can't wait to see what's next for the channel :)
@kenmorris100
@kenmorris100 Ай бұрын
Geoff a little bit of History going back to 1958-63 when I was a pupil at Marylebone Grammar School. The school owned the playing fields, now used by the Post Office Sports and Social Association, across the road from Sudbury Hill Railway Station. Every Wednesday afternoon the School decanted from Marylebone Station by train (first steam then DMU) which made a special stop at Sudbury Hill station and another for the return journey. If any pupil managed to miss the return train they had to make their way back but the Underground even at the age of 11!
@StarboundUK
@StarboundUK Ай бұрын
This is giving me Flashbacks - I used to commute to Sudbury Hill & Harrow back in late 2000s from Marylebone for work.... I used to prefer it as it was only a 15min commute from Marylebone in straight from the Bakerloo Line & I used to live pretty central.
@BKnightification
@BKnightification Ай бұрын
Great video as always. I used to catch the train from here when I lived nearby many years ago. It was closer than the tube station and quicker to get into work. Always had to time the return journey carefully though! A couple of points you mentioned reminded me of one of the rare snow days in London; they cancelled the trains from here. There were probably about 10 of us waiting so I used the help button. Another passenger told me to say there were over 20 of us waiting so please send us a train. The guy on the other end laughed at that amount of passengers 😂 They did get a train to stop for us though.
@rickyzuc
@rickyzuc Ай бұрын
I’ve visited both these stations. I’m surprised Sudbury Hill Harrow isn’t used more as the Piccadilly line is incredibly slow to get into London versus the Chiltern Line which would take less than half the time. When I visited I had to walk from Sudbury Hill / Town respectively as Chiltern cancelled all the trains on that day owing to network strikes. The Greenford branch ie Greenford isn’t that far away from Sudbury Hill (10 mins on bus) where a couple of the other least used stations are.
@swaggerjagg22
@swaggerjagg22 Ай бұрын
I have bought a uk departure board and I am have it next to me while watching this video and I can tell you this is a product I absolutely love and would totally recommend! and the person that makes them is a great guy and his customer service is perfect!
@tanvivyas4884
@tanvivyas4884 Ай бұрын
Your videos cheer me up. Grateful. Thank you.
@00networker
@00networker Ай бұрын
Great to have met you at haywards heath station on that stormy sat night im karl the london victoria track maintenance engineer you met there
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
Ha, hello! You too! Nice to have a chat yes 😊
@RaskoAndDiscoBeerReview
@RaskoAndDiscoBeerReview Ай бұрын
There used to be 4 tracks through Sudbury Hill, I remember going to watch the preserved steam expresses through there as a kid, Mallard etc, as these are my local stations. Struggle to believe they can't put it back and have a better commuter service there, but then I can't see why that train doesn't stop at Wembley as the biggest population centre! Mad timetabling logic. Cheers #Disco
@nathanw9770
@nathanw9770 Ай бұрын
It's probably down to cost (like with everything nowadays). With HS2, East West rail and various station and line openings happening at the moment the rail authorities likely don't think its worth the trouble right now.
@user-pv8xt2lx1o
@user-pv8xt2lx1o Ай бұрын
i regularly use the northolt park station! it’s very easy to walk to and gets me to marylebone in just 16 minutes!
@mucdxer
@mucdxer Ай бұрын
This hast to be the most appropriate sponsor I have ever seen.
@arthurreeder8451
@arthurreeder8451 Ай бұрын
My grandfather was a bricklayer and Sudbury Town underground was one he worked on along with Sudbury Hill. The Marylebone line was under threat for years of closure and run down accordingly, yet had things gone according to the original idea, there was going to be a spur off the District line towards Northolt Park. Northolt Park Station of course was not on the original line as it was installed for the Racecourse that opened pre war. The formation of the twin tracked spur can be seen curving away from what is now the Piccadilly Line just before it crosses the Marylebone Line. It runs slightly downhill behind all the houses on Halsbury Road and under the bridge at the top of Russell Road towards where the coal yard was. Happy days living around there.
@-MapEnthusiastjj4eu
@-MapEnthusiastjj4eu Ай бұрын
Good video Geoff, I've been there it does have that lonely deserlate feeling like a least used station should, very unique however i do think that somebody should come to Sudbury & Harrow Road, clean it up and give it a bit of love even though no one knows it exists it's still a quirky and brilliant station and i love it. Anyway thanks for another fun video, its always the best thing to see on a KZbin notification that you've uploaded a new video 😊 👍
@briseyk1
@briseyk1 Ай бұрын
I recommend Banstead Stn, a slab of concrete with a shelter but still has a map of the station at the entrance
@craigthomson3621
@craigthomson3621 Ай бұрын
Single line also.
@BigJoeChrisLewis
@BigJoeChrisLewis Ай бұрын
My then girlfriend, now wife, used to commute from Marble Arch where we lived to the Sudbury Hill area back in the mid-1990s. She worked at a big engineering firm that had an office block close to the train and tube stations. A few people that worked there used the train but the office was closed a few years ago and it's either flats or demolished now. If you could time your working day to use the handful of trains to and from Marylebone, it was heaven - literally a few minutes, almost non-stop. However, more often than not, there would some crisis at work needing a late finish or early start and that meant the interminable all-stations trek on the Piccadilly Line. (It's the Uxbridge branch, the one that got the rubbish service, as most of the trains headed down the other branch to Heathrow).
@grahamlarkbey3735
@grahamlarkbey3735 Ай бұрын
Ah, that would be Kellogg tower - now flats. Used to be quite a few staff who commuted out to there by the Chiltern route.
@guillaumemaurice3503
@guillaumemaurice3503 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video Geoff, it was very interesting & great information. 💕
@rorschak47
@rorschak47 Ай бұрын
A new least used video. What a treat on a day where I'm home sick
@jerry2357
@jerry2357 Ай бұрын
Get well soon.
@Wolsey58
@Wolsey58 Ай бұрын
I grew up in South Harrow in the 1970s and would sometimes catch a train from (gaslit!) Northolt Park to Marylebone early on Saturday mornings. I vividly remember the local residents’ association fighting hard to champion the station and the three others on the way to Marylebone because even then, the stations were underused, and there was talk of some or all of them being closed. What with services today to Birmingham, Stratford upon Avon and Oxford, the change in fortune of the line under Chiltern Railways couldn’t be more marked, but it’s a shame that relatively few people living near the first four NW London stations from Wembley Stadium to Northolt Park still fail to appreciate the benefit of a fast service to a London terminus that this line provides. My father drove frequently past Sudbury & Harrow Road station on the way to London on the A404. I can remember the white-timbered station very well indeed.
@ciarrid2146
@ciarrid2146 Ай бұрын
basically if your station has the name Elton in it, its going to be on the list
@Extreme_Rice
@Extreme_Rice Ай бұрын
I’ve lived in North West London all my life - I even used Sudbury Hill Harrow once - and I’m not sure I even knew this station existed until a few weeks ago.
@quintuscrinis
@quintuscrinis Ай бұрын
The 182, 92 and H17 go right past it (the 18 even terminates right outside).
@Nice_Person7379
@Nice_Person7379 Ай бұрын
Yawwie did an impression of your videos at this exact station!
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
I saw it!! Really made me laugh - even calling me “Jeff” 😊😊 brilliant !!
@Pigglesgetsit
@Pigglesgetsit Ай бұрын
I remember occasionally getting a train from Northolt Park to Marylebone during a tube strike. It stopped at every station on the way and the train was rammed but at least I got to work. I enjoy these quiet station videos. They’re so quirky
@goonersingh3954
@goonersingh3954 Ай бұрын
I live right next to the Sudbury Town tube station the one you Geoff a few years ago declared as one of your favourite tube stations but if I need to go to the top end of the West End or sometimes need to get in to a doctor Street quite quick I still prefer to use Sudbury Hill Harrow or Sudbury harrow road as it’s quicker and if not drive up to Northolt park easy parking there and get on at North Holt Park
@bubblebus1
@bubblebus1 Ай бұрын
I rather like Sudbury Hill Harrow station from the days when I had a flat directly opposite. Although services ceased rather early in the evening, it was a more civilised ride into Marylebone than using the adjacent Piccadilly line (although I would need to use the latter to return home if late in central London.) In those days using Oyster cards, the cost was no greater and it was quite easy to learn the morning train times for the short step across the road. It was a long plod via Hammersmith on the more cramped tube service whilst Marylebone, always something of a backwater, became a calm spot to pick up odd items before travelling further. It was also a good opportunity to see the splendid (but now sadly missed) Marylebone arrivals from Wales. So, the usage may have been limited, but that just helps to get seating even at busy times. From your film, I note they have spruced it up somewhat since my day. Never mind the short platforms, the train size was more than adequate.
@Sim0nTrains
@Sim0nTrains Ай бұрын
Love the scene when you were talking but gets interrupted by a train and the next scene goes into a drone footage of it passing. That was impressive editing and wouldn't mind having a UK Departure board myself. Great video
@benroberts-mitchell7915
@benroberts-mitchell7915 Ай бұрын
Hi Geoff I have one of those departure boards and love it.
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges Ай бұрын
A station that most trains do not stop at, has a very limited service, and is a short walk to a more serviced station, and an underground station ... it figures ...
@shaunhouse8469
@shaunhouse8469 Ай бұрын
Two of the current top (bottom) stations in London are stations I previously used on at least a semi regular basis. For about a year I used Birkbeck daily to get to work (however as it was by tram it wouldn't have counted) and about once a fortnight for a couple of years rather than commuting to St Helier id get off Thameslink at South Morden to pick something up in Morden town centre from Lidl, Iceland or Sainsbury's
@JohnSmith-bx8zb
@JohnSmith-bx8zb Ай бұрын
Well done Geoff you have demonstrated another problem with ticket machines. Simply with no power you can’t get a ticket to legally board and of course it is also not possible to buy a ‘Promise to Pay’. So always carry enough for a fine then???!!!
@bear6845
@bear6845 Ай бұрын
If you like your heritage stuff. UK Departure Boards work with HOPS timetables too. See when your next Steam service is.
@jh-ec7si
@jh-ec7si Ай бұрын
Those station names eek. Surprised they've survived so long with such similar names. Although there may be some combinations of Sudbury harrow hill left if they really want to go for it.
@trickydicky90
@trickydicky90 Ай бұрын
I live near Drayton Green station, didn't realise its famous for being least used in London, not surprising though, it just goes a few stops from West Ealing to Greenford, perhaps the line will be used more now given the arrival of the Elizabeth line connection at West Ealing.
@AlexPinkney
@AlexPinkney Ай бұрын
Those LNER signs (there are two, one on either side of the pillar) appeared about 6 months ago
@kevinbargery2261
@kevinbargery2261 Ай бұрын
My old stomping ground! Much as I like a 1973 stock Northolt Park was way better than South Harrow for heading into town never liked wasting valuable drinking time🍻 Ps great vid👍
@darryldarwent3676
@darryldarwent3676 Ай бұрын
The UK departure boards would be a great addition for the man cave anywhere (i.e., outside the UK).
@phildaly3561
@phildaly3561 Ай бұрын
That central strip would be a hell of a stealth camping location for someone brave enough.
@matthews4159
@matthews4159 Ай бұрын
Geoff, back in the 60's there is a film " Blowup " there is a scene where the photographer is walking around a "deserted" Park when you were walking around today's station it reminded me much of the movie
@JesusLovesYou-nd1rz
@JesusLovesYou-nd1rz Ай бұрын
I live near Sudbury, Suffolk - our station is very different from this one. It'd be interesting to see you visit Sudbury (Suffolk) and give your opinion of the station here.
@OliverTurnerMSc
@OliverTurnerMSc Ай бұрын
Lived 5 minutes away from that station for 35 years. Never used it once. Seen several KZbin videos of it though 😂
@Legofunboy1
@Legofunboy1 Ай бұрын
i really wanted one of those departure boards, untill i saw they were £170 😭
@hrg1
@hrg1 Ай бұрын
yeah same, it's the tiny one too that's £170!!
@Legofunboy1
@Legofunboy1 Ай бұрын
@@hrg1 Oh my gosh i didnt even notice the big one was £290!!
@lakelady57
@lakelady57 Ай бұрын
Savings people for something you know you will love and need in your life. 😊😊👌👌
@adamogier3390
@adamogier3390 Ай бұрын
Well worth it
@class444swr3
@class444swr3 Ай бұрын
This. I rushed to look at the site, but I could probably buy an actual departure board for that
@mikenorman2525
@mikenorman2525 Ай бұрын
A lot of these least used stations are least used because they have so few trains serving them (although the train operators would probably claim it's the other way round). But it would be a very different picture if stations were ranked on the basis of passengers per train.
@goonersingh3954
@goonersingh3954 Ай бұрын
I live right next to the Sudbury Town tube station the one you Geoff a few years ago declared as one of your favourite tube stations but if I need to go to the top end of the West End or sometimes need to get in to a doctor Street quite quick I still prefer to use Sudbury Hill Harrow or Sudbury harrow road as it’s quicker and if not drive up to Northolt park easy parking there and get on at North Holt Park Geoff if you want come and have cup of tea You need to do review of Muriel at station
@J-berg
@J-berg Ай бұрын
Thanks Geoff - great video as always, love these niche series
@Anonymoususer_8823
@Anonymoususer_8823 Ай бұрын
Apparently Sudbury Hill Piccadilly Line station and Sudbury Hill Harrow station on the Chiltern Railways Chiltern Main Line are quite close to each other. Have you seen the Class 168 Clubman that have been refurbished.
@kevinlynch8614
@kevinlynch8614 Ай бұрын
It's ironic to think that not too long ago this was exactly the same aesthetic at stations along what is now the Suffragette Line; deserted, unstaffed and barely used stations with an hourly service that hardly anyone cared to use. The turnaround and transformation when that line came under the London Overground branding was amazing, and just goes to show that if you invest in quality public transport services, the people will come...
@michaelgarrood3030
@michaelgarrood3030 21 күн бұрын
Somehow the time has come to reconsider how Marylebone is used. Once Old Oak Common is finally opened, trains from the Chilterns can barrel down the old main line from South Ruislip at 110mph and terminate at Old Oak. There, you can either go to Heathrow direct or on the Lizzie Line into Central London. Or better still, electrify the line and make the trains through to East London. That would leave Marylebone as a relaxed suburban station for Aylesbury or better still Milton Keynes, and these local stations to West Ruislip.
@DavidShepheard
@DavidShepheard Ай бұрын
I really hope they build side platforms here, make as much of the line as possible four-track, so that stopping trains can call at the stations while express trains pass them, and then pass the stopping service over to London Overground, so that it gets four trains per hour all day (including weekends). There is no call for stations like Sudbury & Harrow Road to get an intentionally hobbled service. And there is no reason why people living close to the Chilten Mainline should be breathing in diesel fumes in the twenty first century. This railway needs major investment.
@Recessio
@Recessio Ай бұрын
Surprised the ones right next to Picadilly stations survived Beeching (or even closures later on)
@swills9
@swills9 Ай бұрын
Sudbury and Harrow Road used to be my local station when I was growing up from about age of 3 to 9 or 10, regularly got a train (on my own) into London, pretty sure they were almost hourly then !
@JCCC1609
@JCCC1609 Ай бұрын
Kind Sir, you'll not remember me when I saw you and Vicky and the NRM in York, a few years ago when you were signing your All the Stations books. I said that my closest station then was Weston super Mare. (Consequently I've now moved) my closest station is the end of the West Somerset Railway in the Minehead area. My closest mainline station now being Taunton. Thank you so much for including Weston on the Departure boards advert I felt so humbled knowing that I've met you, shook your hand good sir and that was my closest station being down here in the South West. Being that the majority of your videos being around the London area, this is a great shout to the stations here in the South West. THANK YOU!!!!!
@davidflack6430
@davidflack6430 Ай бұрын
There are photos on the internet of the station when it has the old platform layout and four tracks.
@quintuscrinis
@quintuscrinis Ай бұрын
Northolt Park ❤ Beautiful station and just a short walk to my parents.
@amritlohia8240
@amritlohia8240 Ай бұрын
Northolt Park's one of my local stations, and as other commenters have said, it's great to be able to get into Central London in less than 20 minutes, but such a shame that the service is only 1 or 2 trains per hour.
@russiandrivers9986
@russiandrivers9986 16 күн бұрын
There's a really nice English Breakfast cafe across the road from this station called Sudbury Cafe.
@reptongeek
@reptongeek Ай бұрын
I actually have a map of London trains bookmarked on my phone, so I had to have a look before I watched the video. Am I obsessed yet
@EmilyTakesTheBus
@EmilyTakesTheBus Ай бұрын
I tried to look into it as an option for tickets to Northampton but I couldn't get it to sell me one!
@michaellittlejohns7968
@michaellittlejohns7968 Ай бұрын
Great video Geoff
@William_gamer365
@William_gamer365 Ай бұрын
I knew this about a week or two ago and I’ve been waiting for you to make this
@deetoher
@deetoher Ай бұрын
Based on my rough calculations, for the earlier of the two trains, you saw an 'average' in terms of passengers per train: Excluding weekends and public holidays ≈ 253 days. 8 trains per day. 253×8 = 2024 trains per year. 18680/2024 ≈ 9.23 passengers per train. Allowing for some cancellations (especially given what the other waiting passenger noted) rounding up to 10 per actual train seems about right (probably the distribution is more heavily biased towards times that work better for commuting).
@davidwright9013
@davidwright9013 Ай бұрын
Always love these videos, how much time will need to have passed for Geoff to drag himself round the country doing all of them (or at least the new ones) again?
@sssdddkkksss
@sssdddkkksss Ай бұрын
7:11 what a great visual!
@davidthomas-ot4cl
@davidthomas-ot4cl 13 күн бұрын
I grew up just a short walk from that station. I lived there for 30 years and never once used that station. However I used to wait at the bus stop outside all of the time and I hardly ever saw people going into the station. So I can confirm the station is hardly ever used.
@charliebramley
@charliebramley Ай бұрын
51 people per day feels better than a lot a local village stations
@prodriver357
@prodriver357 Ай бұрын
The 2 sudburys are both 3 cars long, northolt is 5. I'm a driver on the route and interestingly I've never stopped at sudbury and harrow road lol.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 Ай бұрын
Thank you! Great info 👍
@charlierogers9358
@charlierogers9358 Ай бұрын
Another great video 😊
@mst4309
@mst4309 Ай бұрын
The pizza boxes and beer cans do make me think though... this probably *is* a pretty nice place to hang out and chill after the last train.
@William_gamer365
@William_gamer365 Ай бұрын
@@mst4309 it kinda scares me cause der prob gonna be drunk men
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 Ай бұрын
@William_gamer365 At least they took the train instead of driving
@William_gamer365
@William_gamer365 Ай бұрын
@ true😂😂😂
@rpmillam
@rpmillam Ай бұрын
Worked at Smitham many times , had also we had to reset local signals.
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