I love that guys like this are making videos, sharing their wisdom.
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
I love how KZbin makes it possible to share knowledge with almost anyone on the planet who is interested to learn.
@ConnorBuchanАй бұрын
I’m closing my eyes at 5am and start thinking if ore runs out😂
@GeologyUpSkillАй бұрын
You can sleep easy!
@kimgrey99173 жыл бұрын
Nicely put Nick. Over time the grade mined for a particular commodity decreases as the value increases. Gold was mined at 1/2 to 1 ounce per ton 100 years ago and now it is 1-3 grams per tonne (0.03-0.10 ounces per ton). As all the high grade deposits get mined the slightly lower grade ones start getting developed. There are hundreds of billions of tonnes of porphyry copper deposits around the world at 0.2 to 0.5% Cu - just waiting for the right conditions (higher prices and depletion of higher grade/more profitable mines).
@GeologyUpSkill3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is the big picture. That picture is substantially warped by political and social pressures, but demand wins in the end.
@FREDDAGGS Жыл бұрын
"Higher prices" crush demand. At some point economic activity just dwindles away along with demand. This isn't the first mining cycle in the history of civilization.
@stevendgrissom19682 жыл бұрын
Thank you for confirming a statement of my friends grandfather who was a geologist for oil companies. He said the same thing about oil. We have more than we need.
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of ironic that the poster child of the run out theories "Peak Oil" will actually happen but not because we run out. We just found more efficient ways to move vehicles around. Oil will soon be used almost entirely as specialist lubricants and chemical industry feedstock at a fraction of the current volume and a price that reflects it's value in those uses.
@harpyabozed43313 жыл бұрын
That mean we can keep our jobs as geologist
@GeologyUpSkill3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! We will run out long before minerals do!
@latemnetlom3 жыл бұрын
An excellent little video. What people fail to do is to read the footnotes of those USGS surveys that talk about "mineral reserves"- they misunderstand what the word "reserves" means. The actual appendix to those surveys defines reserves properly, and uses the copper example. In 1970 we had reserves of copper of X million tonnes. By 2000 we had mined more than X, and still had reserves of 2X! Because reserves mean "amount available at a certain price, with a certain technology", as you properly point out. Excellent job!
@GeologyUpSkill3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. The devil is always in the details, but few people ever read the footnotes. Hopefully this video will help, although it does exceed the 2 minute attention span of most KZbin viewers :(
@terryhale4720 Жыл бұрын
"Never" is a very long time. While it is correct that the elements will not leave the earth and drift off into space, price is not merely a matter of money. Price should be measured in terms of the energy required to obtain the concentration of minerals we need to make products. The deeper a deposit or the more disseminated the ore, the greater the energy required to concentrate it for our use. Discounting recycling, we will definitely get to a point where the energy needed will not be economically justified, regardless of the desire for the mineral/metal.
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
For the reasons you just described, that is not a point, but a very wide and elastic boundary.
@jamancity55643 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, it's always nice to learn something new - Cheers Ja 🍻
@FREDDAGGS2 ай бұрын
80% of people have already run out of metal.
@GeologyUpSkill2 ай бұрын
Each society has it's own balance of supply, demand and price. None of them have "run out".
@FREDDAGGS2 ай бұрын
@@GeologyUpSkill what does "run out" mean to you? Approaching 90% of the global population across all societies has either run out of metal, or is running out. No one is going to mine lower grade marginal deposits at higher prices. They can't even afford the current prices.
@pandictilypandictily88242 жыл бұрын
Hello Nick, I'm eager about learning how the mining companies work and how they do get money, especially if we're talking about mining in other foreign countries with a nonlocal mining company, it would be great if you could make a video targeting this topic and explaning it to us young geologist students
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
That's a very big subject that would probably need a whole series of videos, but it is also much misunderstood so it would be a good subject for a video to clarify. I'll add it to the list.
@wolfgangleyh28613 жыл бұрын
Well said ...the average media person as well as politicians should watch your videos and get much better educated!
@GeologyUpSkill3 жыл бұрын
Many of the predictions of doom are motivated by ulterior motives. Those people already know that they are lying...
@OzzyTragic2 жыл бұрын
Great point about the availability of arable land and freshwater being at greater risk of impacting society. If the energy transition continues to proceed I think the supply and demand issues for many minerals will be problematic over the coming decades. Also it takes a lot of energy to mine and produce metals so pressures to decarbonise mining may have impacts if fuel costs become exorbitant. I am much less optimistic that some unknown new technology will save us.
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
Increasing fuel costs will make new energy resources more valuable so they will still be minable.
@Theranthrope Жыл бұрын
"We need to de-carbonize" Okay, lets switch to nuclear. "NOT LIKE THAT!" Stuff your fake concern where there's no direct dialing.
@thousandsuns2 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to the minerals on these EV battery minerals?
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It applies to all metals and minerals derived from the earth.
@justinsolomita9283 Жыл бұрын
Let's take Cobalt as an example. Cobalt is used in batteries for everything we use. Smartphones, tablets, cars. What happens when we've dug all of it up? Does it reproduce? Or is that it?
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
Cobalt is a good example because there are very large resources that have already been mined, but were discarded in the tailings because the demand and price did not justify extraction. Now that the demand and price have increased, some of that waste will become economically viable ore. The total amount of cobalt in the earth's crust far exceeds what we could ever use so there will always be a balance between price and mineable grade. We will never dig it all up.
@justinsolomita9283 Жыл бұрын
@@GeologyUpSkill Do any of these minerals like Cobalt regenerate over time? Because if it's not like a vault where once you take it out, it's out then surely it builds back up.
@Theranthrope Жыл бұрын
@@justinsolomita9283 You're just being obtuse. Also, there is a "vault" full of free cobalt. It's in space. It's called the asteroid belt.
@AbdoulkadriMangane5 ай бұрын
Very interesting !!!
@GeologyUpSkill5 ай бұрын
Thanks. Reality is in the rocks.
@pitepoiujll3 жыл бұрын
Super eloberativ explanation...
@TheMarkberg Жыл бұрын
Exactly mate well said......... likewise According to Al Gore our coasts should be underwater by now !
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
Doomsaying has been a popular way to get "followers" since Adam was a boy. Mr Gore no doubt had good intentions, and he may even be correct in the long term, but as they say in the futures markets: if you're not right in 90 days, you're wrong!
@freeston1 Жыл бұрын
I feel like there's a fallacy here. "X will run out" and "X will become so scarce with such low ore grades that it will become prohibitively expensive" might not be the same sentence, but the implications are similar. Global GDP growth and the growth of the global mining industry are basically in lock-step, it follows that if the global economy continues to grow, the minerals will become more and more scarce. Your video does a good job of explaining what that process will actually look like, but it doesn't relieve my fears of the ultimate destiny of our civilization. Where am I wrong here?
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
It depends how you define ultimate. Geologists have a quite different time horizon to regular humans.
@freeston1 Жыл бұрын
Fair enough. So how long do u give it until copper (or insert the pillar of modern civilization of your liking) runs scarce enough (with demand growing 2-3% per year on avg) to triple in price or whatever price makes it become a hindrance to growth.
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
@@freeston1 There are so many factors influencing supply and demand that the only certainty is that predictions of price will be wrong.
@eliotanderson6554 Жыл бұрын
Is it the same case for cobalt or rare earths ? I hope so 🙏
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
Exactly. We are seeing a boom in exploration for those elements right now motivated by demand and price. New discoveries are being made on a all over the world weekly basis. The market will be amply supplied when the successful discoveries become mines.
@eliotanderson6554 Жыл бұрын
@@GeologyUpSkill Ic 🙏
@iamaniketpatel20762 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that. 😄
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
Its just common sense really!
@markknutson4853 Жыл бұрын
That guy's cool he can come to any of my parties and tell it like it is cuz that's the way it should be
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
Thaks Mark. The great thing about KZbin is that it can reach the world's biggest party!
@KimPhilipDalanon18 күн бұрын
You the Best!🤠
@GeologyUpSkill18 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Rijaswaan8 ай бұрын
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@A3Kr0n Жыл бұрын
The economy depends on exponential growth and exponential growth can't continue forever. Whatever sweet dream you have for the future is false.
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
True but minerals supply won't be the limiting factor that grinds it to a halt.
@aaronfaes44232 жыл бұрын
is crude oil a mineral and can crude oil run out ?
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
Oil is not a mineral since it doesn't have a crystal structure. But it will never run out because it is subject to all of the same economic factors that govern mineral supply and demand.
@aaronfaes44232 жыл бұрын
@@GeologyUpSkill so we can always use oil than ?
@GeologyUpSkill2 жыл бұрын
Yes. In the future we probably wont be burning it for fuel and it will be more expensive, but we will never run out.
@aaronfaes44232 жыл бұрын
hey but the club of rome says that civilization will collapse in 2030 or 2040 not because crude oil or gas will run out but because there will not be enough to grow the economy and because that eroi or eroei would become to high and they say humanity would die of to 0.5 or 1 billion of the current population i am really scared from that future ?
@geoffgeoff1432 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder why we want to mine asteroids and other planets.
@canadiangemstones76362 жыл бұрын
Only idiots do.
@alishafipourgeologist45202 жыл бұрын
👌👌
@snoosebaum995 Жыл бұрын
switzerland ran out , no mines there
@GeologyUpSkill Жыл бұрын
Switzerland mined coal salt and copper in the past and still has deposits available, but finds it cheaper to buy resources from other countries now. That is very different from running out. If imports became more expensive or impossible, they could easily restart mining.
@wadefreeman73403 жыл бұрын
You talk but you donot show us practically. thanks
@GeologyUpSkill3 жыл бұрын
I am speaking from 35 years of experience working on mineral exploration projects at every stage in the development ladder. The iron deposit I showed in this video is one practical example. There are literally thousands of others all over the world.
@wadefreeman73403 жыл бұрын
ok thanks I appreciate your beatful job . lol
@Linuxguy14110 ай бұрын
@@wadefreeman7340 and he is definitely lying about minerals not being run out lol