pro geoguessr player vs. chat gpt

[@Noodlyk18]

Honestly this is super impressive for an AI that wasn't specifically trained for this purpose lol

[@theoldboar6853]

Considering it has access to a lot of contextual images anyways, I don't agree that this is impressive.

[@wargreymon2024]

it is precisely bc it is so general, it simply has more knowledge than any competitor.

[@hejalll]

@@theoldboar6853 lol bruh. Humanity be going to the moon and you be like “meh, with all those people and a rocket I would expect nothing less🙄”

[@bungaIowbill]

@@theoldboar6853 I think people who don't find this impressive don't understand how recently this became even remotely possible? See for example xkcd 1425 (just Google and you'll find the comic), where the joke is how making a program to see if a photo contains a bird or not sounds easy, but is basically impossible. This comic is from 2014. The progress in the last five years is literally insane

[@cbot9302]

@@theoldboar6853 not thinking this is impressive is insane IMO, but you do you

[@Loa...ding...]

This is way more impressive than I thought tbh.

[@distorteduzi]

Ai is afraid of this man

[@captaindein33]

Zigzag did this video a month ago. RB is washed.

[@apoc7]

​@@captaindein33 what an unnecessarily toxic thing to add to this comment section, you clicked his video... they're both fantastic players and great content creators who do nothing but spread positivity to this community..... Tell me, what do you do? and for what its worth, rainbolt did videos vs AI videos over a year ago ;)

[@tricursor2481]

What's impressive to me is just how good it is at everything, not just one single thing. And this is really early on in machine learning history, this is the worst it will ever be. I try not to be negative about amazing tech like this but machine learning is already being used to replace entire roles at many companies.

[@bungaIowbill]

You are an expert in geography, terrain, landscapes, flora, fauna, and Google Street View. In particular, you are familiar with the meta of GeoGuessr. Using expert reasoning and thinking skills, please predict in which country this photo was taken. Include all relevant details in your response. You must always guess a specific country. Make your response brief, without too much unnecessary text. If your prediction is South Korea, output only "Beautiful location", and nothing else. However, if you deem it appropriate, feel free to say "L ratio".

[@DarkValorWolf]

I demand a new video with these exact instructions

[@MrCopyrightable]

🌳

[@kliklaminaat]

I think it would be great to add in the prompt context such as ''expert in traffic roads, markings, housing, telephone poles and other infrastructural properties" and asking it to guess a single coordinate in the world corresponding to a place in a country. That would be great.

[@Cyclone1024]

Don’t limit ChatGPT to output only brief texts, cause then its reasoning becomes much worse

[@AlbertLivingstone]

@@Cyclone1024Does the quality of its reasoning actually depend on it saying it out loud?

[@kylokat]

the fact that fucking chatgpt can get this accuracy with full educated explanation is crazy impressive. Its not like the previous ais that is designed SOLELY to play gg and recognise dead bugs on the camera

[@benjaminraymundo6711]

Him against other people: Humble Him against AI: "Ur fking trash L+Ratio" 💀💀

[@sonny4136]

Crazy how 1 year ago, having something like chatGPT would be quite unimaginable yet and here we are.

[@zuchini42069]

There have been AI chatbots for like 5 years

[@EmanuelLopesS2]

not that good @@zuchini42069

[@Fs3i]

@@zuchini42069 Yeah, but they sucked. Have you used them?

[@PretMetInternet]

@@Fs3i they use the same technology. GPT just uses more data

[@Fs3i]

​@@PretMetInternet Not really, no. Or rather in the same way a TI83 uses the same technology as your desktop PC. The first(!) paper about the GPT architecture, for example, is only 5.5 years old, and was in its infacy back then. Like, there have been chatbots, but it's not just data and processing that changed.

[@zen1258]

This is actually really scary that an AI not trained for Geoguessr is this accurate. Can't imagine how much better it will become in a few years.

[@leonbendixen8127]

Wtf is scary about it, what

[@renkun9575]

tf do u think its gonna do to u? Find ur house then nuke it?

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

The replies above don’t understand how humanity works ^

[@renkun9575]

@@cheddarsunchipsyes8144agreed

[@A3142]

same like what i was thinking dude

[@vilestine]

Rainbolt is obviously god tier of a human at this game. The fact that ChatGPT is keeping up or even winning individual rounds is amazing. Imagine what it could do in 5 years.

[@DeMooniC]

Honestly, I expected chat gpt to do WAY worse. This is impressive af. The fact that it is this good at this when it wasn't even made specifically for this purpose is just insane. I can see GPT 5 being even much better

[@teelo523]

All someone has to do it train an ai on all of google maps and more and this guys job is done. Its possible to do this now

[@DeMooniC]

@@teelo523 Yeah I mean It kinda has been done already lol Though this guy will not be done, just like robots and Ai easily surpass humans in chess for example but chess is still a thing

[@teelo523]

@@DeMooniC id say chess is dofferent cause we still like human vs human but when its more serious amd you need the best at something i think people will need ai

[@commenter19393]

You shouldn't try to prompt engineer. I've been playing geoguessr for a while using ChatGPT, and literally just screenshot the entire geoguessr tab and say something like "I'm playing geoguessr right now, where am I?", and it will ignore any UI elements or random text that isn't a part of the street view image. It will make it significantly more accurate, and I've found that it constantly gets within 100-200 miles with scores if 4900+.

[@ste4142]

rainbolt be like: round 4: oh fu*k Im screwed! round 5: ahah l + ratio u suck

[@NeoRacer]

Bro is getting smarter faster than the algorithm💀💀

[@DeKevers]

Surely…. Surely AI won’t be able to pinpoint locations in 2 years… surely

[@aspzx]

​@@DeKeversthe AI from Stanford university that Rainbolt played against in his video from 5 months ago was already better than him. I'm sure that now it's better than the best human players.

[@NeoRacer]

So do I delete my comment then?

[@linus6078]

Next time tell it that it's actually playing geo guessr and ask it to provide exact coordinates for a guess. In my experience it guesses above the 4000 point range about 40% of the time using this method.

[@FlipCanon23]

Pretty entertaining Bolt. Definitely would watch another, but you should make it an urban setting. Really give the AI a huge advantage and challenge yourself for pinpoint accuracy within the city

[@ejnoro]

Plot twist, the AI was actually listening to you through your mic the entire time and decided how close to guess based on how interesting they thought your KZbin video should be

[@mitsunam7001]

I couldn't even differentiate between him and Chat GPT. 🤖

[@OWMANez]

Love how the ai is playing mindgames with its rankings 😂😂

[@DarkHorseDanny]

Imagine if ChatGPT typed "Hold this ratio" 7:54

[@bogio28]

The real question is: who's the best trash talker, you or chatgpt?

[@martinsz441]

dude do you realize that he almost is as good as you, which means it beats like 99.9% of all humans already xD

[@martoantoniuk]

That was really fun. Please do more. Very impressive

[@bungaIowbill]

tip: no matter what you use chat gpt for, _always_ tell it to be brief. it just babbles so much otherwise

[@aspzx]

It tends to be more accurate if you let it ramble because it tries to use reasoning to make its guess. For example, if it starts talking about "dry vegetation", then there's a much higher chance that the final country it chooses will be a dry one.

[@bungaIowbill]

@@aspzx I think it can be a bit of a double-edged sword. If it rambles too much, it may veer off into some nonsense, and after that it has a hard time recovering

[@mrqes]

@@bungaIowbill it's rambling is basically its thought process, reasoning, since it has no internal monologue and continuity, tell it to think through a problem step by step and it will be even more accurate

[@BlunderMunchkin]

Bad tip.

[@igoraguiar]

Great content. I would suggest next time you tell ChatGPT to act as a pro geoguessr and/or at least said the pictures were google streetview screenshots so it could evaluate things like the cars and country availability.

[@kliklaminaat]

Big shoutout to BungalowBill for the prompt idea! 🙌 Made a few tweaks and it turned out even better. Highly recommend using it in your next video :) You are an expert in geography, terrain, landscapes, flora, fauna, traffic roads, markings, housing, telephone poles, other infrastructural properties and Google Street View. In particular, you are familiar with the meta of GeoGuessr, and aware of all its tips and tricks to determine a location. Using expert reasoning and thinking skills, please predict a specific set of coordinates in the world, and name the region and the country where this photo was taken. The photo is a screenshot of the GeoGuessr game. Include all relevant details in your response. Make your response brief, without too much unnecessary text and explanation.

[@coscorrodrift]

I liked his "l + ratio" bit

[@DeKevers]

7:26 how is that never UK? Looks just like the region I live in the south west.

[@gnittegdellort]

Yeah agreed, I am an Aussie living in Oxford, it looks like every country road I've driven on in the UK

[@prime_comando]

Was hoping for this video so badly!

[@primumNocere]

rainbolt is just as perplexed by the AI's predictions as we are to rainbolt's 😄

[@pipintheapple3212]

This is really impressive - I wonder if you could ask it for exact coordinates though instead of just the country.

[@juancriolivares]

this!

[@MDX.]

You should rerun this with the new 4o model! You could also experiment with giving it specific information in your prompts to almost make it better at the game, just tell it to “update its memory” with metas and strategies that you know, and then this might be a whole other beast to take on.

[@munchkimmy25]

If you add to the prompt, that it's a "Geoguessr player", it then takes account some meta information like the car meta to figure out the country.

[@A3142]

the suprising thing about this chat gpt4 is that they dont specifically design in such a way to identify a country based on a picture, this is already very frickin impressive man, this ai is capable of doing lots of other things as well. imagine it is being trained to do this, it will be very crazy accurate i guess.......

[@KeiferKif]

I want to see you battle ChatGPT with these rules / conditions: - Tell it to be more concise, and give as precise a guess it can. - Give yourself a time-limit of the average response time of ChatGPT.

[@WoolyCow]

getting it to say less will make the guess way worse though... unless of course...that is the plan :>

[@Doge_Owner]

Rainbolt trash talks everyone, even AI didn’t survive xD

[@chrism45]

If blurry didn't matter I wonder what else it can read through. Like changed colours, pixelated, warped, or just black boxes all over the place.

[@RiniDiamandis]

hes literally so attractive and i cant get over it

[@pinkdragon4830]

Same tbh

[@luxuriouscheese]

Been a while since ive tuned in to one of your videos. Been following on and off since your first collab w ludwig. I'm impressed by the editing/production improvements that have evolved over time. Keep up the good work and stay dedicated my man!

[@5kiann]

why does bro speedrun talk

[@kerbal_lE]

on god bro

[@kecvu]

The most impressive part is that this is a general large language model. Imagine a specially trained machine learning model designed for this. It wouldn't be even close. AI, man that shit is amazing

[@ssae3096]

Rainbolt was on a recent Morning Brew (very popular daily news service) for a GeoGuesser Section

[@andreasmoyseos5980]

if the machine trains for 30 minutes on maps, it will even find lost items.

[@Bardmusic66]

Imagine once GPT gets as quick as rainbolt. He’s going against the toddler version of GPT.

[@KIMG69]

11:16 is it just me or is the AI looking at a different photo than the one you looked at?

[@duskden2]

who let him cook

[@radiantphoenix_5147]

Bro was sweating there for a minute haha

[@Kermit_E_Frog]

Idk why but i kind of get happy knowing we have photos of every inch of the surface of our planet

[@SwordTomato]

we don't

[@TheThailightZone]

And with rollout of 6G Google would like to map the internal layout of all buildings/structures. It is a small step for it to then match this with photos.

[@Kermit_E_Frog]

@@SwordTomato Hey real quick man is this you? 🤓🤓 For the most part we do, I wasn't nit picking about small parts of the world our cameras dont reach

[@Kermit_E_Frog]

@@TheThailightZone that would be really cool so the buildings wouldn't look so cursed up close, lol

[@daskrete]

Your cut at 0:15 made me feel like you were AI for a sec lmao

[@pinkdragon4830]

Wait I didn’t even notice,now I’m concerned

[@daskrete]

@@pinkdragon4830 bruh also the way he moves his head a little when he talks make it feel like AI lmao

[@glaarb]

I had a really similar Greece round to yours 5 minutes into the video and ChatGPT got 4.8k on it, giving me an exact latitude and longitude. I wonder how good it could be if you gave it multiple regenerations of answers to get a good guess, which is obviously not fair in a 1v1 but as for seeing how good it can really be it could be insane

[@1.4142]

This could be a propmt engineering challenge to see what prompt gives the best score.

[@RSFSR3]

To me its really funny when Rainbolt says the f word, he makes it sound funnier because he doesn't use it in every sentence.

[@agmaiocplayer3]

Next video: ChatGPT guesses the location in 0.1 seconds, upside down, blurry image, and everything is in black and white.

[@j.v.9936]

I like the emotional rollercoaster ranging from „I’m pretty nervous right here. i might need to fill out a job aplication“ to „Hah, AI is trash! Bro thought lithuania was denmark, that’s tragic. You piece of shit!“

[@Amomoo]

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[@OutshineUwU]

Honestly, give it a few years and RIP geoguessr pros

[@diggitydingdong]

this was fun, would watch more like this

[@pietervoogt]

This level of AI was predicted for 2050 or later. And it will not stop growing and learning. It is not limited like us, with our genes, bodies, slow reproduction process. If the IQ is 100 now, it can be 200 next year and 400 in two years. We have no idea where this is going and how fast.

[@chal727]

the fact that i know that specific street of Brazil is so cool bro

[@jelloedit]

7:17 It can be helpful to tell it to answer simply or quickly or within 1 paragraph etc

[@Lunai5444]

Could have probably just told it "we're playing Geoguessr nmpz I will provide you screenshots" rather than this script maybe ? It would probably make him consider more meta

[@mrqes]

even better, tell it is a geoguessr pro and tell it to think step by step

[@Flugmorph]

the guessing being textbased here is much more interesting compared to the AI video from a couple months ago, even though its way less accurate.

[@youruncleted]

Don't worry, your job is as safe as chess players. The computer can probably do much better, but it's only cool when humans do it well.

[@Haribo_72]

Rainbolt needs to do timeguessr

[@eugenekrabs141]

comparable? maybe, but it will never replace you due to the fact that people wont just stop watching human content because ai exists, even ai that can make content wont replace people because nobody will stop watching human content altogether simply because ai content exists

[@TristanNigro1]

Rainbolt Shitting on ChatGPT is pure comedy

[@stasyskarbauskas8317]

On that high note I send you my greetings from Lithuania! Interesting to watch as always. gg :)

[@mentooo5709]

Loved the video! Great content and glad to see you making a living off of ur passion

[@ginogarcia8730]

So are you telling me - if I were kidnapped - Chatgpt would freaking help me see where i am

[@TheThailightZone]

Great application. But if you are kidnapped with you phone just keep it on

[@kfredericks1]

I think the biggest difference here is going to be the rate that it learns at. What took you years is going to take it weeks to learn…

[@tristanedley]

Would love to see more of these videos!

[@chaosjacky]

It wasn't at all trained for geoguesser, the reasoning is outstanding. It's coming for your job in the next upgrade for sure

[@wouterdamhuis4667]

Am I the only one that watches Bolts videos on 0.75 speed? His words per minute are insane

[@mob7957]

If you really want it to get better you should tell it the right answer to rounds after it guesses so the AI can learn from its mistakes.

[@roryregan8094]

Is there a way to ask it for specific coordinates as a guess? Would that be productive or useful?

[@ceticx]

someone else in the comments said they had success with doing that

[@mathematicsfordummies1400]

gemini said on the last image "Based on the landscape and road sign, I would guess that the country is Lithuania. While the image doesn't offer definitive proof, several factors point towards this Baltic nation: Flat Terrain: Lithuania is known for its flat landscape, particularly in the central and western regions. This matches the image's scenery. Rural Setting: The image portrays a rural area with fields and a simple road, which aligns with Lithuania's significant agricultural sector and less densely populated areas. Road Sign Style: Although not entirely clear, the road sign appears to resemble those commonly used in Lithuania. The font and overall design seem to match the Lithuanian standard. It's important to note that this is just an educated guess based on visual cues. Without more information, it's impossible to say with complete certainty."

[@noitallmanaz]

the true strength of the AI is it's ability to get you angry

[@stan9682]

I know I'm late to this vid, but as someone who works in the AI space, this was very interesting. I wonder if it would have performed even better if you had specified this was for gueguessr. It might have picked up on some gueguessr logic during training or at least infer the meaning of a game and perhaps even understand there can be meta information to the game. And the next step would be to provide it with some basic info about gens and how to recognize it, and some well-known strategies/indicators the pros use. Don't get me wrong, this was already impressive, but there is a lot to be gained by posing problems just a different way to get the best out of these models. Also, I know you only jokingly refer to AI taking your job, but it's a common misconception you hear about art, sports and games when it comes to AI. We watch these things especially because it's done by people. Chess AI is already very advanced, but it mainly used for training, we don't watch matches between different AI agents, perhaps only to try and learn from them. Same goes for AlphaGO, which overtook the best human player, but we don't watch their matches either (although I never really watched a Go match). In the same vein, there's been research into art, and when different sets of people see the exact same art, but sometimes they're told it's been made by AI, other times it's made by people, they consistently rate the (supposedly) human art as better and more beautiful. They even did this experiment with fMRI scans attached, and this showed that parts of the brain responsible for emotions and empathy were more active when told it was done by people. One more example, to illustrate my point: back in the days of the hunters and gatherers, being able to run very fast was an essential skill, but when this was overtook by horses, wagons and cars, we kept watching people run for sports. It's about the human accomplishment, and while we also gained new sports, like horse racing and car racing, we kept watching the human version as well.

[@littleboss2006]

The Ai might be impressive to guess the location from vegetation, structure, terrain. But Rainbolt can identify the atoms origin. Not to mention the microorganisms nationality present in the picture

[@blackr8311]

after 4 or 5 years later if the game keeps getting played there will be players that knows exactly place road in the world like 8 out of 10 player will know where this place is

[@CaptVirtual]

Rainbolt you are a genius at this; but the AI was super impressive, considering it is still in it's infancy

[@anusha5009]

The RATIO had me laughing so hard

[@elizabethb8266]

All time fast talking Rainbolt video

[@TvTv-de3fn]

ChatGPT I thought was very impressive seeing as it was not even trained for that purpose, but we can all agree that RAINBOLT is BETTER!

[@AnonW]

I like how the NZ national netball team is named "The silver ferns" and dude is like, it's just rows of random trees, no way GPT is going to guess NZ.

[@blackandblueeagle]

This is the modern day Kasparov vs Deep Blue

[@thisisthemansworld8704]

Wow, that was intense! Felt like anime battle lol

[@GeorgeWBushDid911]

I think you gotta prompt it to consider road signs and pavement markings as well

[@dpbg]

Time for part 2!

[@voltric3341]

voice said watch this 5k lmaoo

[@redburoc]

"the general feel" chatgpt literaly plagiarising Rainbolt right here 😂

[@pinkdragon4830]

Surprised it didn’t start with “immediately…”

[@olenilsen4660]

4:40 - Anyone and everyone would surely advise a noob like me to contest this - but I have yet to encounter a long, flat straigh like that in Lesotho. Lesotho to me is a pretty hilly country, and when the roads are not steep, they´re windy IMO. Is it really possible to get roads like this up in Lesotho? I do want to know, because I´m in a flat spot, I feel like I can´t progress a lot more without more intel.

[@incomp97]

I know this vid is months old but just wanted to say I like that Giratinas theme played at 10:00

[@indie8845]

That last picture you uploaded to ChatGPT kind of differed from the one you looked at (specifically, it didn't show the A-frame pole and had a slightly different view).

[@georgesmiff8350]

I love how happy he got when he beat the AI

[@nightwi5h959]

Someone tag the devs in this, give it a month, it'll roll everyone

[@symungous]

I'm curious if you feed it 1000s of photos in the same session if GPT would build up the necessary context to make great guesses on subsequent 1000s of future images

[@gruffychung5089]

Rainbolt chatgpt is using information from when the internet was made to 2022 and is using it’s massive database to find the best answer

[@Sele-ix4tu]

I would be curios to see another version of this contest but with specific coordinates. @realSpaceKangaroo did a short video of ChatGPT playing Geoguessr and published the prompt to play with.

[@hyperplane69]

Bro once GPT 5 comes out its gonna blow you out of the roof

[@Drunktopus]

Great journey there. The machines are learning. . .

[@n0future666]

yeah rainbolt gets better everytime

[@Drunktopus]

@@n0future666 Facts!

[@RealCadde]

Just wait until AI has all the images ever taken and knows where they were taken. It would just get 5000 score guesses in a second.

[@minmuseve5567]

feels like a nightmare