George Boleyn: In His Sister's Shadow?

[@BriarMB13]

This is such a sincere examination of someone who has been robbed of their complexity in the told histories. Always a joy to see you tackle that, and hear your own opinion! 🐂🐂🐂

[@aprilnelson9044]

😀😃Excellent! Thanks so much

[@kellyblaxton3189]

A big "Hey!" from America! I love your videos!

[@leannboyea1822]

Very interesting, still not sure what to think of him. Thank you for this!🐂

[@LKMNOP]

Which is the way it should be when you're a historian. You're supposed to not take sides. If you watch other videos, there are times that she does not care for her subject. But at the beginning she always claims this. She still will give a very unbiased video, but she knows sometimes bias will come through. But she will always tell you if she does not like a person.

[@dorian4534]

I'm fascinated by the dissonance of the primary sources versus the way George Boleyn has been treated, and how his wife has been portrayed, especially the 1970s miniseries. Always seems they either play up or play down his culpability, while always making Jane somehow the victim or the villain or both. The real George? I think he made the wrong enemies, the wrong moves, or thought himself more important (ie untouchable) than he was. 😔

[@NannaVildeJensen-qr5sh]

How interesting, especially concerning the marriage between Jane and George🤔 I had no idea such letters of affection between them exist, which really indicates their marriage (at least) not a terrible one

[@BarbaraRoberts-oe9hc]

I enjoy your episodes 😊

[@historybuff7491]

I have always seen George Boleyn as like Icarus -- flying too close to the royal court -- in this case. He was trying to move up in society, like his father had. With his sister as queen, he may have seen it easier to do so. How much he was pushed by father and family or how much he was competing with his sisters, I am not sure. Just like Icarus, the tragedy is sort of his fault.

[@timefoolery]

Oooh, a lovely, long episode on George! Thank you, Dr. Kat. ❤

[@jimmorris6060]

Hi Dr Kat. Working my way through all your videos and really enjoying them.

[@cindygrubbs5856]

Thank you, Dr. Kat! ❤

[@hadleyjames8627]

Fascinating and interesting topic.thank you Dr. Kat 🐂⚔️📜⚜️🛡

[@TheLazerface]

As always, an excellent rundown of the actual facts and analytic review of them. 🐂 You are always my go to for Tudor related content and you never disappoint!

[@Shane-Flanagan]

I would not make a very good Tudor Courtier so, going by that checklist lol 😂

[@kateparsons4784]

I always find your videos informative.🐂

[@erntefreude]

Greetings from Germany! I love your channel and content!

[@pennyatkinson5740]

I feel sorry for him. A pawn in the game of getting rid of Anne so Henry could remarry and ridding himself of the in-laws!! Thanks Dr Kat!🐂

[@timpancakes2011]

Another interesting video! 🐄

[@eliscanfield3913]

His widow doesn't strike me as so big a fool as to accuse her own spouse of treason and incest. Nor does not having kids prove a damn thing. In those days they wouldn't be able to tell if one or the other or both had plumbing problems unless they had kids with other people. There's a reason why IVF or having extramarital relations were my only options for having children. (I went with the former, the idea of the other squicks me out so thoroughly)

[@mburns75]

Thank you for covering this topic. My knowledge of George has largely been shaped by fictional portrayals, so your research offered a refreshing and thought-provoking perspective. After hearing your insights, I agree that it’s unlikely he was as violent or daft as he’s often depicted. Your analysis of his marriage also lends strong support to the idea that it wasn’t nearly as troubled as commonly portrayed.

[@johnkearns672]

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[@Crub837]

Thanks 👍

[@Jo-pp7yj]

A big set-up! 🏰. 😎

[@irena4545]

Anne seemed to be an intelligent and capable woman of great charm, her brother easily could have been the same. And he had to die for the same reason as Anne, to make things easy for Henry. As an influential man with connections, he would have been his sister's prime defender as well as a witness that she never betrayed the king, and that would have been awkward. He may even have been privy to some very private information from Anne , so he had to be utterly and thoroughly discredited. How horrible for the Boleyns, to lose two of their children like that at the same time. 🐂

[@llewballantine6678]

🐮This was really interesting

[@LKMNOP]

Not to mention that if you're in the privy chamber or the privy council, you hear a lot of secrets and plans that aren't made public. So Henry must have trusted George to that extent. So I think you are right that it wasn't just that Henry wanted Anne.

[@LaLayla99]

I love your history lessons! You really show the true history (or at least what is known) versus the historical fiction of entertainment. It sounds as though GB took advantage of the opportinities that came his way but he worked to deserve them. 🐂

[@bmj1680]

I wish that there was more information about him. He seems to have been intelligent and highly educated. As you point out, he must have been a pleasant companion otherwise why would Henry want him around. The cabal against the Boleyn must have been very anxious to be rid of all of them. 🐂

[@albertlabozzo2856]

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[@Lucyverre]

Interesting 🐂

[@TaniaEccleshall]

Very interesting, I also don't believe any of the charges used to condemn the Boleyns 🐂🐂🐂

[@jillmcbride7339]

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[@jeancohen5949]

cow was all there was in the social glifs for my feed-I hope it's close enough to a bull.

[@rosevale3218]

With the fall of favor of his queen because she was unable to produce a male heir, I believe all the Bolynes were doomed. The older Henry became and the desire for a son caused, in my opinion, him to look elsewhere. He'd already had a dissolution of his first marriage, so this had to be a clean break with Anne. How better than her death? I have always believed that the evidence of the treasonous acts were put forth by factions antagonistic to Anne from the start. I think Anne really loved Henry and only caved under duress as you say because he seemed determined to rid himself of their marriage. 👸🗡⚔️ 👨 🏰

[@clarepotter7584]

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[@Shane-Flanagan]

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[@G.L.McCarthy-vr1oe]

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[@ThinWhiteAxe]

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[@sjj39]

It was Lady Worcester who made the allegation of incest.IMO.

[@ReadingthePast]

I think that is a likely answer - I wonder who put her up to it though (if anyone)?

[@sjj39]

@ReadingthePast Someone blackmailed her maybe. Had something on her...?

[@hannahrobbins1017]

what makes you think that? (I confess I'm not 100% sure who that even is and therefore how she was connected to the various factions)

[@TheLazerface]

@@hannahrobbins1017she was one Anne’s ladies-in-waiting and a main informant against her.

[@stoker1931jane]

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[@maryarigho5868]

I rather like George, don't believe his wife and he did not get on or that she testified against him. He obviously wasn't jealous of Anne because they were great friends.📖

[@karennobel8575]

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[@lorraineavery366]

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[@08andylee]

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[@kellyburns5032]

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[@andrearoyd2942]

Thanks x

[@jeancohen5949]

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