George Carlin on Abortion | Teacher Reaction

[@Danno_GK]

Every argument you’ve raised he could counter quite easily I’m afraid. This isn’t going over a child’s homework.

[@coryfoster4907]

Most definitely! Very weak talking points from this guy. Pro-Life is complete bullshit and selfish.

[@Danno_GK]

@@margaretirvine3267 That’s fine. What isn’t fine isn’t having Absolutey zero argument to it. Saying “don’t agree” doesn’t make you right. Also, not agreeing with something isn’t a bad thing, it’s fine. It’s makes us human.

[@robbyascher9090]

I think as long as YOU stay on the shallow surface, YOUR beliefs won’t be shaken. But if you dig just under YOUR surface, you’ll have to admit he’s right about a lot of it.

[@venceditche2099]

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[@Z-one1000]

First I want to say I respect your honesty. I do want to say however that if the "sanctity of life" were true, no state would ever have a "death" penalty.

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

When one takes away the sanctity of life from someone else in cold blood, then isn’t the death penalty a proper recourse to in fact protect the sanctity of life by making laws which deter from it?

[@marcussmith8747]

@@TeacherEddieHistory That's the thing though, 1) most people who are executed aren't afraid to die, so therefore it is not a deterrent, 2) the statistics for every state/country that still employs capital punishment, have horrible records for innocent people being hung/lethal injection etc. In theory it's a good idea, but until we are at a point of being able to guarantee the correct person is executed, we shouldn't be doing it.

[@Z-one1000]

@@TeacherEddieHistory Doesn't it just make us no better than than the murderer themselves? It's hypocritical. I mean let's call a spade a spade. The death penalty isn't meant to administer justice, it's meant to satisfy a need for revenge.

[@jackwhitbread4583]

​@@TeacherEddieHistoryno I don't agree that it's proper recourse, it is vengeance plain and simple. If the sanctity of life actually exist then that means ALL life should be sacred.

[@Lenka18s]

@@TeacherEddieHistory Actually, nope. If you believe in sanctity of life then you believe in it and that's it. Where is the consistency???? A government has many other ways how to deter from crime so why choose the most cruel and final one??? Not to mention alarming statistics on innocent people being executed.

[@oldeskul]

When people ask why I'm pro-choice, the short answer I give them is, if you do nothing to solve the underlying issues of why someone would get an abortion before banning then then you've only further compounded the issues, so until we as a country are willing to tackle all the reasons why someone would terminate their pregnancy, just leave abortion-on-demand alone.

[@Ur_killin_me_smalls]

Yes! 👏👏

[@michaelmoore2052]

And what might those be, the issues that don't have to do with the miniscule amounts of abortions related to incest or the various forms of sexual assault that can lead to children? The VAST majority of abortions happen as a result of sexual irresponsibility and lack of accountability. This problem was heavily amplified by the sexual revolution and the shift of women prioritizing career over family. The solution is quite simple, it just isn't going to happen because women in the west will not go for it.

[@Ur_killin_me_smalls]

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[@michaelmoore2052]

@amandathomson644 And that tells me you got nothing.

[@Ur_killin_me_smalls]

@michaelmoore2052 yes Chad. You won 🏆 🙌 👏

[@revylokesh1783]

The thing with abortions is, the best way to resuce their number is solid sex-ed for teens, and unrestricted and cheap access to contraceptives. But *that's* something conservatives don't want *either*! 😵‍💫 Telling people to juts "don't scr*w around" is just not gonna cut it.

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

I agree

[@Electro_Patronum]

Not to interject religion into politics but since we’re talking about conservatives I felt like it’s appropriate to say that simple piety is not a solution either 👍

[@christhornycroft3686]

Conservatives by nature believe in fairy tales, so when you're talking science to a conservative, you might as well be speaking Swahili. I was raised conservative and was homeschooled by one. Science was literally the one course I didn't ace when I finally was allowed to go to (Christian) school. Obviously, I'm not religious now because I gave up things that hurt me. My dad would tell me to memorize everything I learned in Grade 9 Science and then immediately forget about it because it was "not of God." When I hear parents indoctrinating kids with that delusional nonsense that doesn't work in the real world, it infuriates me, because I saw myself as a kid being abused. It's terrifying because I'm reliving my childhood. When I hear a parent say they don't want their kid to "swear," I just roll my eyes. You know they're doing it at school, right? Or they're at least going to do it when they're an adult, so what's the difference? Parents are so worried about school "indoctrinating" their kid, but at least schools can back up what they teach kids with evidence. These parents can't. That's what they're afraid of. That their kids will learn something they can prove and their cover will be blown. Kids will realize how full of it their parents are. Well, good. And I'll be there to enjoy every minute of it. I hope these kids have a daughter who gets pregnant in junior high, so they have to jump through hoops to say it was "God's will." Should we make her drink "bitter water"?

[@karenmandeville7116]

then why are animals' lives not sacred? they too were born.

[@Eidlones]

I don't think Carlin was actually talking about abortion specifically, and just used it as a jumping off point to talk about the hypocrisy that people use on both sides. Like for example I don't think he went off topic with the whole holy war bit at all, cause he was talking about how people that say "Life is sacred" will also endorse killing when it suits them. He loved words, and meaning, and how people used them. Him talking about how people say life is sacred, wasn't saying that they're stupid for being pro-life, he's calling them out for the hypocrisy of using the term "life is sacred" when they don't mean "life", they mean "the lives I think matter". Another example is his bit on how the earth will be fine. He goes off about people that wanna "save the planet", and how dumb they are and whatnot, when the actual point of what he's saying is about humanity's hubris. "Save the earth!", no, you mean "save humanity's livable environment", but that's not as noble a thing to say. The earth will live on long after us. To quote the bit, "The earth is fine! WE'RE fucked." He's calling out the arrogant use of "saving the planet" as a way for humanity to have a self-inflated image of our own importance.

[@lisannebaumholz5028]

Disagree! Carlin WAS talking about the issue of access to abortion and contraception at the time. Hypocrisy, sure. Now, decades later, how many states in the US have banned abortion or even access to contraception? Even if a prospective mom faces serious consequences for sepsis or worse carrying a fetus to term when the fetus has already died in utero... There is no more important freedom of choice than an individual's right to choose what happens to their own body. This is why laws about abortion and other issues about an individual's rights to determine decisions about their.bodies are so emotionally charged.

[@Eidlones]

@@lisannebaumholz5028 I'll agree that he may have been making some sort of comment on abortion, but it certainly wasn't his main focus. Him talking about things like "Why aren't they counted on the census?" and etc, aren't him saying "They aren't people, if they were they would be on the census", it's "If they believe that they are people, then why aren't they given all the same things that people who are born, are? Why only some of the things" Again, pointing out the hypocrisy. The majority of his later stuff has always been around how people control each other, and use language to warp view points (both for other people, and themselves) away from "truths" (His "soft language" bit is a good example). In interviews he's said that he loves one on one discussions with people, but add in just one more person, and it starts to turn into people trying bull shit each other. He loves people, but hates humanity, cause humanity tends to try and warp reality to what they want, rather than what it is, through language. Look at any bit he does, and the majority of it will be about the people surrounding an issue, not the actual issue itself. My thoughts, anyway.

[@lisannebaumholz5028]

Fair enough, and I appreciate your thoughts and comments. But I really don't think that this particular George Carlin piece "Abortion & the Sanctity of Life" has nothing to do with issues of abortion. Of course it did, and still does, comment on experiences of people who have to or do make difficult decisions about pregnancies. The onus is on the women in any scenario...all joking aside. 100% of people who choose to have an abortion are women. 100% of rape victims who are involuntarily impregnated are women. And where are the men in these scenarios? Really, where are they?

[@chadh.johnson3550]

It must feel comforting to be so secure in your opinions that you can claim his arguments "hold no water" yet do nothing to justify your claims. If you want to disagree, fine. But don't try to make it seem like your arguments are somehow more intellectual than his. They certainly are not. Actually they're somewhat moronic. Try rewatching this and only listen to yourself. Remember the first part is about abortion and the second part is about the sanctity of life. Perhaps you'll stop confusing the 2 topics. You're a teacher? Of what? Try harder and perhaps future generations will stop the slide into arrogant ignorance.

[@mikitz]

Technically, since both the sperm and the egg are already alive before anything happens, shouldn't we criminalize jerking off for guys and menstruating for women?

[@RP3ZO]

The video was called this title. The show was not. The whole show was not about these subjects. Yes he veered off ‘the narrative’ because in the show there was no overarching narrative.

[@VerchielxKanda]

That's pretty bad that you just say that the people there all agree and are cheering because they're fans. Guess you've never seen his hecklers. Also, if he were alive today, he could easily counter your counter arguments, cause he IS a genius. And of course he's good at making serious things funny. He'd only been doing it for 40+ years-

[@martincharlesworth932]

Oh Wow .. this guy George Is so right ... we do choose who and what to kill and what gets to live or be protected ... thats just facts and very hypocritical of us

[@goranmekota7540]

Comedy is almost always a bit of a one-sided caricature. Caricature itself is a comedic tool. If it was a balanced philosophical debate or scientific analysis no one would find it funny.

[@scotttrueblood4126]

for you to say you know when your pregnant is over stepping cause im guessing you have never been pregnant???? so to assume you know what someone else knows isnt something a teacher should assume

[@THEBATMAN28AHH]

I appreciate someone taking the time to hear this stand-up from Carlin, but i think you might have missed a huge chunk of it where he does mention more about soldiers and the sanctity of life stuff. He does recognize that some people believe kids are born to just be soldiers someday. So he doesn't really talk against his own point. He's making the case that our idea of sanctity of life is primarily selfish.

[@JoyfulRacoon-df2gl]

He not only made you laugh, he made you think.

[@josephmarrero5373]

George Carlin is the best,,, The best never rest, rest in peace my friend.❤

[@mikitz]

Just to note that most of verbal comedy derives from the clash between the pragmatic interpretation and the semantic interpretation of the message, meaning it's a real buzzkill analyzing pretty much any of the message on a deeper level. You either get it or don't.

[@ThatThrashGuy99]

I don't check your channel in a week and I see 3 new uploads? Missed you Teach!

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

Thank you 🙏

[@ComradeRagdoll]

The Hypocrisy of AntiAbortionists and ProTorturists shows! You’re a Genius George, may you Rest In Peace.

[@DannisTheManace]

I think you're missing the point.

[@valerianschneider5084]

thx for your honest view. howeve if you realy think it through. i cant see how you cant come to the conclusion that sanctity of life is a thougt construct (a very idiolistic one) and nothing more. and used and bent, as he stated, to fit our needs and purposes. which is understandable, but at the same time destroys the concept.

[@gb1706]

At least you’re honest about your stance. Knowing that you’re pro choice for certain things is very commendable.

[@greggary7217]

I don’t care which “side” anyone is on, any time you start trying to analyze the morals or beliefs of a raw standup comedy act you are at the very least missing the point & almost certainly bound to debate points that the comedian exaggerated, misconstrued or otherwise models with - to.get.a.laugh. Trying ti use it as a basis for serious debate is almost as funny as the act itself . It’s comedy.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

I am pro-choice because and only because proper sex ed and an actually good foster system arent something we have yet.

[@tyronebaxter2692]

Dude stop picking everything apart (THAT'S WHY THERE CALLED JOKES) that's what comedians do 😅😂😊

[@galadballcrusher8182]

Seriously if we wanna debate relugion and sanctity of life the only religion that really keeps life as sacred would be Jainism. They don't even kill mosquitos.

[@devonm042690]

When he was talking about the sanctity of life, he wasn't talking about abortion anymore. He'd used the correlation of the sanctity of life coming up a lot in abortion debates to jump topics. Also, several times you said that digging below the surface of his statements causes them to break down. You never elaborated though. Especially with that last one where he was summing up the hypocrisy of the so-called 'sanctity of life' as 'we get to choose which forms of life are sacred, and we get to kill the rest'. Where's the flaw in that statement?

[@jackwhitbread4583]

I dont know that 3 months is necessarily more than enough, at a missed period a women is already 4-6 weeks pregnant and you know not all women are regular and would know automatically that they are pregnant. I had one at 9 weeks 3 months after my youngest was born, i had a 2 year old and a newborn and i was really suffering with post partum depression and had a husband who refused to change diapers or feed either of my children. It was a terribly dark time for me and i was not in my right state of mind. Abortion is deeply traumatic for most women and we generally dont take it lightly and we are riddled with so much guilt and self hatred. Please don't judge what women do too harshly, you have no idea what she might be going through.

[@Johan92Johansson]

My teachers used to tell me to motivate my claims.

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Stop saying you support pro choice if you don't support it. You're pro life.

[@boozefueledreviews6928]

Maybe the weakest Carlin reaction I've seen... I guess you missed where his bit went from abortion to religion? RIP George!! Not everyone is going to get it!

[@wjadam024]

George spoke on uncomfortable truths.

[@shadyd2544]

The vast majority of abortions are carried out early in the pregnancy the exception usually only for cases the mothers health is in danger. Think i could probably disagree with you a bit on the exact cut off date of it but you seem pretty reasonable.

[@Platinumdose420]

y so serious? XD

[@MrCBTman]

Why didn’t you react to the first half of the bit??? 🙄

[@jamlocys1235]

You are not making any sense! That's not the point, knowing George Carlin he is not an old angry man either! Do your research please! but anyway 👍

[@starlight7617]

you say you're pro choice, yet you don't accept if someone just dosen't want to be pregnant and have a child, so..

[@goldenapplesaga5446]

Personally, im not for abortion. However, i listen to both sides of any arguement on principle reguardless of what it is because i believe thats the best way to resolve a problem. Abortion is the easiest arguement for me to completely sympathise with both sides. So much so that i want either side of this debate to come to a middle ground because they both have very important points

[@Maukustus]

really makes you go "hmm thats funny"

[@MrRagston]

🎵🎵 Somebody's indoctrinated 🎵🎵

[@dall1786]

Your surface comments are just old and tired please stop. You're not making an argument for anything here

[@TheBillybob895]

I enjoyed this reaction~ I would love to see you do more comedy reactions, everybody does bill burr reactions, you could try doing some of his bits

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

Great suggestion!

[@tigeriussvarne177]

Good to see you again Teach. Would you mind to check out the "german George Carlin"? "Volker Pispers_ German Cabaret Artist about the History of USA and Terrorism"

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

Thanks I will

[@tigeriussvarne177]

@@TeacherEddieHistory Awesome! I hope you like it. ^^

[@anthonymustane2824]

if you don't have a uterus you don't get to have an opinion.

[@tracematson385]

Personally, I am pro-choice, and anything beyond that I do not have the education to form an opinion on. I do not know anything about Row v Wayde, in fact, this is the first I have heard of it. I would like to know where you came up with the 12 weeks if you don't mind my asking. I do disagree with the if you dig into Carlins' logic it doesn't hold water. The reason is that your statement of them having been born in the first place seems to create an endless loop. If they weren't born then we wouldn't have a discussion in the first place, but because they were born they did a lot of evil stuff. So while I agree that you shouldn't abort for no reason other than fear they will be the next Hitler, I also agree that life being sacred is made up. After all without fungus, bacteria, and bugs, we wouldn't be here either.

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

Roe v. Wade is a landmark Supreme Court decision from 1973 that legalized abortion in the United States. The case was brought forward by "Jane Roe," a pseudonym for Norma McCorvey, who challenged a Texas state law that criminalized abortion, except to save the life of the mother. The Court's ruling established that a woman's right to privacy, as protected by the Fourteenth Amendment, includes the right to choose to have an abortion. This decision has had a significant impact on abortion laws and debates in the United States. It was overturned by the Supreme Court, last year.

[@gregorysiegel1178]

Glad to see you back

[@Orion5010]

its been too long since ive heard that voice.

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

My brother!

[@emmanuel1337]

Yeah, George is very witty and scores some points here and there, but we have to differentiate sophism from actual concrete points. I never really saw him as this "philosopher comedian", as some people call him -- he's good at calling out the bullshit in politics, provoking discussion and promoting counter-culture -- definitely an intelligent and very articulate guy, but when the comedic and rhetorical veil is stripped out, often times there isn't much there, unfortunately (though I'd say there's still much more than your average comedian and you could still make an effort to reinterpret as a broader critique that he's pulverizing through the points that are then watered down to be funny, but I don't know...). Looking at, for example, his bits on religion and the existence of god, environmentalism and this one on abortion, he mostly brings very shallow points that can honestly be easily refuted by anybody that has given serious thought to the questions, and that's coming from someone that thinks this is the case even for the stuff that I agree with him -- he just tends to use poor, fallacious arguments that don't necessarily follow -- which is fine and common for comedy, just not the type of stuff you'd want to bring to a proper debate (and, again, one can say he really means to make a broader critiques that bring laughter and reflection and that the individuals arguments aren't that important, but I do think he could still do it while making more solid points). So yeah -- Carlin's a good comedian and counter-culture icon, but not really worthy of some of the intellectual hype that some fans give him imo. I guess his actual positions could be more nuanced outside of the stage, but I don't know enough about him to say for certain...

[@dall1786]

It's so easy to refute religion though because you have nothing to base it on it's all bulshit

[@Shubham-yf8lb]

Do you need a graphic designer and video editor with your convenient charges?

[@andreacraig-green1195]

🎉so happy yo see your face again!

[@TeacherEddieHistory]

Aww thank you 😊

[@charcolew]

A historian you may be, but a logician you are not.

[@saboteur1001]

I feel sorry for children who has such a stupid teacher. Some things never change.

[@kevincarrigan635]

Hey Eddie (History Teacher ?), U put some significance on the # of 12 weeks, but what about God in the Biblical context ? I am an atheist, so my view is not made convincing, by pointing out, that Adam was only considered alive, after he took his first breath. I apply that standard to the fetus. If a would be human is viable, outside the womb, then & only then do I consider it a human life ! I was an English teacher (Overseas ESL) & I think you need to look up, & reaquaint yourself w/ the definition of the word sacred. WordWeb gives as its synonym, the word Hallowed. I think it a bit conceited to conflate human life w/ the Deity. I will go so far as to say that human life is precious, & thats it. Why precious ? Because of our sentience ! But other species will follow after us, & because of our lack of linguistic ability, we are ignorant of the possibility that dolphins are smarter than us. More on that ,in the book, "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. Homo Sapien also seems awful conceited to me ? By what standard are we wise ? We think very highly of our species. Judaism, once (& maybe still does) consider abortion, a sacrament. Read, Numbers 5 :20 - 27. I was once a theology student in seminary..... Judeo-Christianity has made a pigs breakfast out of this issue, & more religion will not help us sort it out !!! I trust in evidence based Science. I don't agree w/ everything issuing from George's mouth, but I think he gets the broad strokes (cardinals & bishops) right. God Bless George Carlin ! Amen ! The Bible Belt = the So be it Union; my uncle Thomas.....

[@ComradeRagdoll]

ProLife? More Like ProWoman-Torture!

[@seba6326]

Glad you're back teach!

[@mikmaqwoman]

open ur mind buddy

[@HeavyPhoton]

Ya but will never be an answer

[@_lost_paradise5089]

wow:) Happy to see you back and even more happy to see Mr. Carlin! There's few people who have or ever will live that I love more:)

[@Win-tq2uf]

I don't like an audience that much at a stand up. They laugh at those jokes and do those things in the same day. I wanted actually someone smart to give a feedback instead of just agreeing. Do you know Kurzgesagt - in a nutschell? They make really good simplified videos for teaching, but Idk about the copyright.

[@CyberChunk77]

I'll never understand why "pro life" people like you can't apply your philosophy to yourself and leave the rest of us alone. Do your thing! I don't care. Get your meddling hands and ideology out of other peoples' lives. It's always the conservatives too... claiming to believe in Federalism etc.... yet never see the irony of their meddling ways.

[@randym7976]

Eddie, PLEASE do not "react/review" to ANY more comedy videos! It's comedy, your supposed to laugh, have a good time! I just wasted 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back watching you obviously NOT enjoying his comedy! Why do you bother to analyze comedians? He is either funny OR not, the words are meant to make you laugh...

[@coljagman5441]

I hope you're not a real teacher

[@kenmahoney5255]

Dude know one cares what ya think