The Allegations That Could Destroy NBC

On August 12, 2021 a lawsuit was filed in New York against Horatio Sanz, SNL Studios, NBC Universal, and 20 other fictitious persons- people involved but not yet identified. The allegations in the suit strike at the heart of NBC and implicates executives and SNL cast members in sexual abuse.
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[@Jose-se9pu]

Judge: "you are accused of sexually assaulting a minor" Jimmy: *slams the table and laughs histerically*

[@xenos_n.]

😂 ... Tru

[@Menaceblue3]

I got a fever in my heart.... And it needs more -cowbell- Criminal complaints of sexual harassment and aggression!

[@4Everlast]

15 years old allowed to go to a drug and alcohol fueled party?? She might wanna sue per parents.

[@djeieakekseki2058]

Dino S. Dominic NBC and all these people must be punished severely, but let's not ignore the fact that she was 15 and has a brain.

[@vollsticks]

@@4Everlast You never sneaked out of your house to do something your parents wouldn't approve of at that age? Sure, lets blame her parents, you absolute fucking weirdo

[@Jenniferentrance]

there's nothing to give me any faith that even if this does go to a jury trial that the situation will properly be investigated and the people truly responsible will be punished

[@fistfulofgroovy9746]

Welcome to the disgusting world we live in... Isn't It Wonderful!?

[@tomasotreasaigh111]

Well in fairness if you wish to have faith in the legal system then maybe you should remember one of its basic rules "Innocent until proven guilty!" So far these are only allegations but you seem annoyed that the accused haven't been found guilty and punished already. That is due process, do you believe in the legal process or not? Btw I have no problem believing that her allegations are based in fact, but these things need to be investigated before we start calling for people's heads.

[@SomePotato]

@@tomasotreasaigh111 Right. And a settlement would shut down this investigation. You can't settle a murder case, you shouldn't be able to settle sexual assault.

[@tomasotreasaigh111]

@@SomePotato I totally agree, but anyone can make allegations and the legal process should be observed. Have YOU ever had anyone accuse you of something that wasn't true? Wouldn't you like to have a chance to explain yourself? Ps I don't really like Jimmy Fallon, he does deserve due process though, no matter how I feel about him.

[@residentelect]

@@tomasotreasaigh111 And what you said segways rather nicely into the phenomenon of "trial by media" (which has existed for decades thanks to us enjoying freedom of the press) has in the past decade evolved into "trial by social media"... I'll not mention "Cancel Culture" as that can of worms is overflowing... Fallon, and many other individuals may exist in the collective public consciousness as obnoxious, even down right reprehensible, but irrespective of any allegation, hearsay or Twitterati storm, the only place a man or woman can be found guilty of said allegation is in a court of law by a jury of his/her peers, or in exceptional circumstances by a judge alone. Going waaaay back to 1215 the Magna Carta states "All free men have the right to justice and a fair trial with a jury".

[@lampoon9871]

I just want to thank you Georg, you make outstanding video essays, I’m never not entertained, and I always leave with something.

[@tommylakindasorta3068]

I agree 100% with this comment.

[@residentelect]

@Tano ... and a hit of Hiptang.

[@ezragoldstein1870]

11

[@kenlieck7756]

Sanz apparently always leaves with something as well...

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

i was hoping this was a spot of fun..... i'm sad every time i hear these allegations and we know where there's so much smoke, there's a fucking forest fire

[@Onoesmahpie]

Stop supporting hollywood

[@caucasoidape8838]

@@Onoesmahpie They don't even provide good "bread and circuses" anymore.

[@felphero]

I think absolutely zero shit will happen to NBC

[@PenitusVox]

I was indeed watching this on my TV. I felt so called out.

[@theunknowncorps22]

14:20 "I dont think it has anything to do with corporate culture" goes on to explain how corporate culture is involved.

[@katrinalemcke2806]

May have been the joke :)

[@adjacent-smith]

Jane Doe seems to have known what she was getting into better than the accused..

[@ronaldeffinreagan]

What do you mean? She was 14. I don't understand. Can you clarify?

[@adjacent-smith]

6:00 is where I commented. Up until this point she's running a website, traveling from out of state and most likely presenting herself as an older woman and doesn't reveal that the until after age of consent, then sweetens the pot by bringing along older friends.. Haha Idk if I'm jk or not but I dunno if dumb ass dudes in their 20's stand a chance against an enterprising young woman..

[@wetbehindtheears]

Excellent video. I'm always interested in so many different aspects of this story but had not heard of this case yet, so thank you for bringing attention to it.

[@kurtdewittphoto]

Apparently Chris Hansen should have hosted SNL during all this.

[@XxRaceRCxX]

take a seat, right here

[@adrianbecerra5139]

🤣😂

[@anhedonianepiphany5588]

You may want to look a little deeper into Chris Hansen before using him as an example of a "good guy".

[@XxRaceRCxX]

@@anhedonianepiphany5588 I'm pretty sure we're well aware that Chris Hansen isn't perfect. It's a meme just enjoy it for what it is.

[@GoldenPickaxe]

@@XxRaceRCxX isn't perfect is an understatement

[@user-qf6yt3id3w]

'Rich celebrity who was outspoken about respecting wamen turning out to be guilty of sexual misconduct' is the modern version of the 80s classic 'Anti-gay fundamentalist found with rentboy and a load of drugs'. The only difference is that the rentboys were above the age of consent.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

Exactly. And these guys are always so dreadfully bad talking to women. Yeah, all that "toxic" stuff they white knigh against is exactly what gets them turned on. I may be "toxic" or "problematic" but I've never made a girl feel creeped out. Either she liked me or she didn't, no skin off my sack.

[@xBINARYGODx]

plenty of times they were not above age, or they were once caught, but its clear the relationship is not a new one, if you get my drift. Hell, Gaetz went as far as to adopt his underage rent boy! (not necessarily serious with that last bit, but yes on the other stuff) PS - It is not safe to be hooking up with random rent boys - you need one or a few you can trust. If someone is caught with one that is college aged, there is a strong chance that relationship started when the boy was younger than college aged.

[@xBINARYGODx]

@@LembeckIsStaying Why would you be toxic or problematic? You know, you can still be a "creep" even if you cannot find any girls to claim you made them feel that way. Your post is weirdly defensive - did a blue hair girl call you sexist and you got all triggered?

[@localalien6173]

Spot on. The more woke people are...the less I trust them. How about Canada's golden boy: Justin Trudeau? Then he got caught in black/brown face and then said he wasn't sure how many more pics would be uncovered. It was like 4 separate incidents.

[@joshDammmit]

Well, in some cases above the age of consent

[@Kyrieru]

Sad that I trust a film buff's journalistic integrity more than any news site.

[@m3gAnac0nda]

There are great news sources out there. Even mainstream outlets release interesting stuff.

[@HOTD108_]

@@m3gAnac0nda Yeah, Alex Jones just tells it like it is, man.

[@m3gAnac0nda]

@@HOTD108_ indeed he does. Keep dem' frogs pure !

[@halrun209plays5]

What are time we live in

[@daniellejoiner4929]

@@halrun209plays5 3:00 pm Edit: sorry, it’s 3:01 pm now

[@danielponder690]

so that episode of Family Guy with Meg and Jimmy Fallon is based on some truth I'm guessing.

[@garlottos]

"Help, I've just escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement" -Stewie Family Guy has said a lot of things that you only understand after the truth gets out. I wouldn't be surprised if this was another one

[@steverambo4692]

Seth McFarlane knows a lot of open secrets

[@JoanWhack]

@Top Lobster Macfarlane has always given me the impression he's being very virtuous for the wrong reasons. Never trust anyone who says all the right things. They're over compensating for something else

[@yetanotheruser1989]

I was thinking the same thing

[@bobmacabre6873]

He’s prone to violence and anger… I have no evidence… I just say this to myself…

[@yoredeerleader]

I never a trust dude whose name sounds like a font style.

[@normdeeploom5945]

😂 that’s the wisest things I have ever heard since that Lorem Ipsom fella advised me to invest in Theranos

[@TokyoXtreme]

I think “Fallon” could be a font name as well.

[@FreyaEinde]

Poor Ernie Helvetica is gonna feel so misunderstood

[@ghiblinerd6196]

yes……yes. 😁👉

[@amvfan15]

he's apparently Comic Sans perverted brother

[@dinogoldie9716]

Dang! Horatio Sanz used to be my favourite font.

[@namelessentity5851]

If anyone remembers the ep where Lindsay Lohan hosted, the opening joke was about her just turning 18, and had a few cast members come out and 'creep on her' Looking back on that now.... damn, so it wasn't a joke.

[@killerwillies575]

I remember there being an online countdown back in the day for when the Olsen's twins turn 18yo. And it was a lol thing. Not like woe that's fucking disturbing

[@AT-5000_Autodialer]

@@killerwillies575 Yeah, and that was everybody both celebrities and the whole damn internet. It was a different time.

[@killerwillies575]

@@AT-5000_Autodialer it's crazy this was the cultural norm.

[@AT-5000_Autodialer]

@@killerwillies575 yeah, it's only until now even older men dating barely legal girls is unacceptable. Simply look up how many old rockstars dated underage girls. Ted Nugent was infamous for it.

[@killerwillies575]

@@AT-5000_Autodialer my go too is Jerry Seinfeld dude was the star of biggest show at the time in 93 and was dating a 17 year old in his late 30s. Or how Roman Polanski won best picture after he left the country for raping a minor.

[@halfabeet]

And here I was thinking SNL's only crime was to be so dedicatedly unfunny

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

Also picking a political side with the coastal effete superiority of the 1%.

[@garak55]

Also being litteral chinese commie propaganda.

[@razumijinatreides4691]

@@garak55 wtf?

[@andybaldman]

U must be a trump supporter. SNL isn’t for you.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

@@andybaldman You must be a child, assuming that people who don't like overt, MSM-derived comedy with an obvious agenda are Trump supporters.

[@PPunktAlex]

So what I'm gathering from this is that there's a good chance Jimmy Fallon isn't even fit to host a parasite.

[@battra92]

Jimmy Fall on the stage.

[@DatBoi-mo9vc]

@@battra92 jimmy fall off the stage and breaks his neck

[@flywheelshyster]

that's one of my favorite mike jokes!

[@robotjox77]

He would be slapping his desk at that one.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

clout will get you everything

[@ifiveoh]

She was FLYING to these parties every week or two from OUT OF STATE. Imagine a child telling her parents “I need to be in Manhattan this Friday for a party” and her parents just saying “Yep, sounds legit. Say hi to Horacio for me!”

[@fixitluis]

Right its like she and her family made themselves the bait

[@nolaray1062]

That’s what I was trying to wrap my head around. A time to TRULY say WTF.

[@Caffeine_Club]

Yep. I'm trying to figure out how in the fuck this goes on, and no one thinks that this is off. That girl should never have been going SNL by herself. I'm assuming her parents were doing a really shitty job of parenting.

[@austincde]

@@Caffeine_Club mom's were bringing their kids to Neverland ranch & people were leaving their kids with R Kelly too. Edit: I mean to say it's because fame/power means they must be trustworthy or competent

[@alanlight7740]

Fact is that there are a lot of people who have never bought into the idea that teenagers should not be doing anything sexual. Historically a woman her age would have already been married with two children, so biology is on their side. They just know that in the modern world that there's nothing to be gained by pointing out the obvious, so you don't hear much from them. So I'm not really surprised at this.

[@HebaruSan]

No, those are forward slashes. Friends don't let friends use backslashes in URLs.

[@IMelkor42]

Journalistic integrity? Pah! How can I trust someone who doesn't know the difference between forward and back slashes??

[@realGBx64]

Friends don’t let friends using backslashes for anything else than escaping characters. Don’t use inferior operating systems please.

[@mooseitself]

I've never felt so justified in baselessly disliking someone before.

[@arnoldfreeman2885]

Good for you. I also instinctively disliked Sanz for decades but after I saw his many Comedy Bang Bang appearances I grew to like him a lot. Now I think my instinct may have been correct.

[@coreym162]

It wasn't baseless if they are obnoxious which they are.

[@zetetick395]

_PILE ON! PILE ON!!_ \😫/

[@justintime1343]

@Moose Itself: Would that "someone" be the Plaintiff or Defendant?

[@Quantumrobert]

When I first heard about this I thought, ok I remember the name Horatio Sanz, but cant think of who it is. Then I saw a photo and thought, ok I remember that face but I still cant think of anything memorable that he did. Cant remember one joke, one character, anything. Now I have something to remember him by, I guess.

[@submale5892]

So this is why everyone hates comic sans.

[@MinistereMR]

Underrated comment 👆

[@BestKiteboardingOfficial]

You win the Internet today

[@thereignofdando]

Tremendous!

[@normdeeploom5945]

The more I hear about this show business the more I start to think there might be something sleazy going on.

[@deanobeany]

You mean an industry full of thin skinned, narcissistic individuals working in a deeply shallow line of work where there are millions of dollars floating around might be sus? Nah, I don't see it

[@oanaalexia]

might?

[@normdeeploom5945]

@@oanaalexia allegedly

[@reshpeck]

I'm starting to think that some of these high-powered Hollywood types are real jerks!

[@antraxxslingshots]

It seems nothing but a swamp of filth...but i honestly ask myself how people behave so "shocked" as more and more shows on the surface and everyone knows and talks about (for decades) that this seems totally common in the model business. Will that ever be dealt with?

[@lumenationwasstolenbyytfrome]

Seth McFarlane may have outed this, the skit seemed odd at the time, for Family Guy. I've always seen it as some form of truth telling. It's Season 4 Episode 4, where Jimmy Fallon "uses" Meg for an SNL Skit.

[@Wait..WHAT24]

I remember that episode. Yikes 😳

[@hirograveyard8236]

I think he’s done that with other things too. I feel like he’s one of the people who also publicly called Weinstein out for what he was and people just laughed because it was in the context of humor. NBC is the Animal House of the television industry

[@christinaluna713]

@@hirograveyard8236 Really, the television industry is the Animal House of the television industry. It’s sad. When I was young, it was my dream, to live in that world. I’m sooooooo glad that Life helped me to dodge that bullet. Sometimes, I think one’s dreams get crushed so that one’s soul will not.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

That's also where Stewie runs around naked in the mall yelling "help, I've escaped from Kevin Spacey's basement" Peter also beats up Fallon for fucking Meg

[@bimscutney1242]

Imagine that. The entertainment business is sleazy. Who would’ve known?

[@SirWeirdGuy]

I've heard politics might be pretty bad too

[@PhiltheMoko]

Religious organisations are fine though right guys?

[@elias_xp95]

@@davexmit You’ve never met a sleazy woman?

[@thathertonfuels8355]

Sleazy human beings in any business or profession. Imagine that.

[@Football__Junkie]

The pause after “Marble Chomper” was classic 😂😂😂😂

[@toppersundquist]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@HOTD108_]

@@janettebuckley4170 I think we all know exactly what it means, deep down.

[@MatteBlacke]

I was thinking of Hungry, Hungry Hippos too 🦛

[@michaelsoltesz3779]

All the good names got snapped up fast back in the aol days. 🤣

[@francinebacone1455]

Oh, thank god! I thought he said "Marvel Trumper"... and i was like ??????? ..and now I'm still like ?:0?:0whaaaaaaa?:0:0:0???

[@janeallgood9833]

"The cast of SNL loved reading a 14 yo's fan page about them." Not sad at all.

[@ravendeafening192]

what is sad about that

[@rikrob5172]

Might have been the only one out there.

[@TheSquad4life]

@@ravendeafening192 a lot

[@candideggplant1575]

In this context sure but in another it is "this celeb really cares about their fans and is a genuinely great person and isn't a stuck up asshole"

[@kdandsheela]

This is the least sad thing about this story. In fact, if there were no grooming or sexual contact it would be kinda wholesome

[@adammocaby2636]

I have always despised Fallon. He is obviously not who he appears to be.

[@psynumb]

Agreed. You can always sense his disingenuity.

[@reinarforeman6518]

That's not true, he appears to be a douche.... and is one.

[@mrspoons3970]

People always look at me weird when I tell them how much I can't bear that guy. They say, "What about his lip-sync battles?" and I say, "You can't see that he's totally fake?"

[@Aster_Risk]

He's a phony grifter who pretends he's a good guy, but did blackface and is now also at minimum an enabler to sexual assault.

[@Walkbi]

Plus: he is painfully unfunny…

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

A new refrain for showbiz: "Never meet your heroes; they'll always try to r4pe ya."

[@ahlishaholloway233]

This complaint crystalizes everything I dislike about Jimmy Fallon. His friend openly flirts with an underage girl, and he does nothing. John Oliver comedically points out Amazon's abuse, and he silences him. Trump says he wants to ban all Muslims entering the country, and he ruffles his hair. All cases show the same pattern of behavior. Jimmy doesn't have a spine, and cares more about people liking him than standing up for anything.

[@PoochieCollins]

What was Fallon's response to the Muslim ban?

[@xSwordLilyx]

Yes, I have had a conversation with a coworker about talk shows and inevitably ended in discussing mutual dislike of Fallon. It's not one thing, it's what every action he does implies. No backbone at all.

[@moehoward8691]

Why can't the girl take some responsibility here. She chose to be with those people.

[@TIMEPPF]

No amount of alcohol could make Sanz or Fallon attractive.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

teenage hormones will…

[@fall190]

I mean fallon isn't a hunk but he isnt ugly

[@mrdog4529]

I though Sanz was just Fallon in a fatsuit

[@tubbylumpkins4885]

@@mrdog4529 same

[@LukeWarm05]

...or funny.

[@Franck_Major_X]

The sad or overwhelming part of this, after a while I decided to search more videos about this case, but I don't see many videos talking about this.

[@phyarth8082]

They say “Never meet your heroes” Interesting is biographies been written in three versions: autobiography by author, by historian or fan and third by enemy of the author.

[@TheFarSideNoob]

I used to think "don't meet your heroes" just meant you'll be disappointed that they're flawed people like everyone else. Now I it seems like you shouldn't meet your heroes because they might be sociopaths who leverage their fame to get away with pedophilia and/or sexual assualt.

[@unskilledlabor1]

Literally whose hero is Jimmy Fallon?

[@musicandmagic909]

@@unskilledlabor1 or Horatio Sanz

[@fielalmanga]

@@TheFarSideNoob it's not pedophilia as she was already 15 years old

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

@@unskilledlabor1 A lot of women and girls found him attractive and he had the biggest ratings before the Trump presidency.

[@atrainradio929]

Schmidt’s reporting is amazing. I never heard of this (very recent) lawsuit because it’s seemingly not garnering much attention. Thanks Schmidt for bringing it, however, to my attention.

[@jnnx]

I’ve heard both Jason Bermas and and Matt Jarbo report on this.

[@ShummaAwilum]

Might be because there are several significant world events going on that are absorbing everyone's attention right now.

[@djangofett4879]

@@jnnx who?

[@mitchh3092]

Yeah it's amazing what you can bury when you own massive chunks of the news media

[@mitchh3092]

@@sg-yq8pm so the gist of that was "You didn't hear about it as early as I did, so you're a piece of shit" You seem great.

[@akaJughead]

I'm going to guess that marble chomper comes from Hungry Hungry Hippos, and that Sanz is trying to call himself a hippo. He used to use his weight in his comedy, so it makes sense to me that he would keep that theme with his screen name.

[@dildonius]

It still feels like some kind of gross pedo-slang lol.

[@JacksonKnives]

I assumed it was a clever reference to Demosthenes and overcoming speech impediments to become a successful orator. But your guess is undoubtedly more plausible.

[@dasfowler]

@@JacksonKnives I agree, Hungry Humgry Hippos is more likely, but if there were ever a moment that I wished the horses were zebras, this is it.

[@cunegonde4]

Thank you for covering this in a solemn, serious way. This news came out two weeks ago and yours is the only video I’ve seen that handles it in a mature way that respects the victim. But also really funny when you began to say the complete web address.

[@CustardCream515]

Thank you for a. doing these videos on stories I otherwise wouldn't have heard of about awful goings-on, b. dealing with them with all of the available facts and c. getting angry exactly where any reasonable human being would get angry. It genuinely makes these videos so much more palatable to know that even the guy making them is as disgusted as I am. Thank you Georg

[@tabathaogost4982]

I thought it was way too dramatic

[@yaash4123]

What facts?

[@AmberAmber]

@@yaash4123 Court docs • don't be a nonce.

[@lisagibson2975]

@LeviWilliams off topic, whose that in your icon?

[@gjmarkjesse1324]

I believe her, she really does have a case against them. I hope she gets justice against these predators.

[@jdschrunk4900]

Unless she saved those chat logs or an eye witness comes forward, unfortunately she has a very weak case

[@rhetoric5173]

Case for what? Underage drinking? Most do it with fake ids. Go out more

[@notwerkinginthishouse8634]

@@rhetoric5173 Read the room

[@MohammedAls66]

@@jdschrunk4900well that literally how they found Trump guilty without any hard evidence.

[@JDMimeTHEFIRST]

Women don’t even own their own bodies in half the country , so I doubt it. Police often cover up evidence of rape and don’t even send in the rape kits for testing half the time. In Alabama, they want to legalize rape and arrest women for simply coming forward if there’s not enough evidence. America hates women.

[@fredbloggs5902]

The SNL skit of Hermione ‘Growth Spurt’ (Harry Potter) is pretty revealing, Lindsay Logan was only 17 at the time. Update for all you ‘fact checkers’ out there: The skit aired 1st-May-2004 Lohan was born 2nd-July-1986 She was 18 on 2nd-July-2004 So she was 17 at the time it aired. Got that?

[@psychegoddessoflight9358]

Yeah it is. So inappropriate. The early 2000s were a terrible time for promoting the sexualization of young girls. Minors. Children.

[@leodwinak]

Lindsay LoHan Just saying

[@damianprice8422]

@@leodwinak autocorrect is a pain in the ass. My tablet keeps trying to change my sister's name to Jay-Z

[@Juggernaut-fg2up]

@@psychegoddessoflight9358 it's called comedy, get over it

[@balthasardenner5216]

@@Juggernaut-fg2up You can do comedy without sexualizing minors. It's true, I've seen it.

[@mjaada]

Never even heard of Horatio Sanz

[@HOTD108_]

You're probably too old for him anyway

[@longliverocknroll5]

@@HOTD108_ I’m not, and I still didn’t know who he was. Although, I’ve never liked SNL, and he apparently was only ever “popular” while on SNL.

[@jnnx]

You must be too young for Mad TV…

[@longliverocknroll5]

@@jnnx nah, I’m old enough for Mad TV too. It’s worse than SNL 🤣

[@caucasoidape8838]

@@jnnx Will Sasso is a fat guy who is actually funny

[@rubievale]

Am I alone in wondering why her parents were ok with her going to the parties, the tapings etc? It's a parent's job to protect your children from this type of thing. None of this is the girl's fault, not one thing is her fault, but I'm gobsmacked at how her folks must have been ok with her flying out to New York on her own, or if they accompanied her, let her attend parties on her own. What parent would be absolutely cool with their 15yr old child being put in harm's way like this? Maybe I'm missing something

[@michaelparylak5649]

Parents protecting their child???? What world are you from?!?!?

[@skywarp0564]

%100 agree, the parents should also be accounted for this problem. The child should've been taken away by Child Services and Fallon should've went to jail but he is famous and rich so oh and in California so he is safe.

[@evanpb]

Well, it's also any individual's responsibility not to groom / assault minors.

[@thespicemelange.1]

But it does take two to tango, just saying.

[@thisisgettingold]

@@evanpb can't groom or assault minors if the parents do their job

[@orangepluto]

Horatio Sanz can catch these hands.

[@AyeCharley]

Bars

[@bostonrailfan2427]

that you, Braun Strowman?

[@protogenxl]

Seth McFarland has a history of hinting at this stuff, is this why they had Meg sexualy assaulted in a "in show" SNL Opening Bit by Jimmy Fallon?

[@shermansadventure1151]

There are so many pedo jokes on SNL. It's like they are mocking the public by being so in your face about it.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

back in 2005 no less…nobody called him on it, they ignored that she was an underage character sleeping with a 30 something guy

[@carybeweary7209]

I think he just wanted to make the "half the audience of MadTV line" Plus,it was just a funny absurd joke about the live from New York its Saturday night skits

[@carybeweary7209]

@@bostonrailfan2427 Peter beat Jimmy's ass at the end of that What do you mean nobody called him on it?

[@AT-5000_Autodialer]

@@shermansadventure1151 give some examples. I can only think of two.

[@thezpn]

13:50 Farrow's story wasn't incredible, on the contrary it was highly credible.

[@Stratigic_Cheese_Reserve]

Me, I've no idea who Horatio Sanz is - sees picture, GUILTY!!

[@DicklessHipster]

That's what the person filing the lawsuit is hoping for.

[@diecarro79]

He would fit in the cast of the Sex Offender Shuffle.

[@toolongforyoutoread6]

He would fail at First Impressions Court.

[@caucasoidape8838]

Jimmy Fallon is the Anti Funny. I'd laugh my ass off if this brings him down.

[@SneakiestChameleon]

I'm starting to remember which late-night Jimmy rhymes with "felon".

[@canesvenatici4259]

I like that you are publishing videos more and more often so I have more Georg Rockall-Schmidt to watch.

[@Jormangunder]

Georg, you're a very sincere and incredible content creator. Thank you for shedding more light on this issue. Also, thank you for all your content, I love your channel.

[@tanveerhasan2382]

I concur

[@TrevorToonArt]

I love the "I'm not like that anymore" defense. No no, I think you are exactly like that still.

[@stumbling]

I'm all for redemption but it is a common manipulative tactic too.

[@burnbabylonburn78]

The fact that she waited 20 YEARS to file a formal complaint tells me everything I need to know.

[@cheezyfilmsproductions1842]

@@burnbabylonburn78 You are obviously a man, and know nothing about abuse victims

[@chipsterb4946]

@@burnbabylonburn78 she got greedy when she got older. Plus the culture today is much different and grooming underage women for sexual abuse is no longer business as usual.

[@cheezyfilmsproductions1842]

@@rsh650 I’ve known more than I should, growing up with six sisters and living on the street, and being a woman myself.

[@InsidiousDr9]

Anyone can say 'if this was happening why did she continue' -- but that doesn't matter as she was a minor. Minor's can't consent (or even sign binding NDAs). Horatio may believe he's a 'different person' but the 'new person' will be the one going to jail.

[@mitchh3092]

He may very well BE a different person. But if he's a BETTER person, he'll accept punishment for what he did. I've seen a lot of people cancelled, and the ones who actually DID grow as people are the ones who own it, including the consequences.

[@mysticx0]

get the fuck outta here with that dinosaur era way of thinking. she knew EXACTLY what she was doing and never cut it off with him....shes no victim. stop acting like 15-16 year olds dont know what the world is about and are far more informed than any other generation ever. so for you its juts a matter of law and not morales. ok. change the law and now its ok according to you? seriously, wtf??? reverse the genders and the kid would be a hero. wake up.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

I mean, you're just factually wrong in a ton of ways, OP. Lots of states have an age of consent at 16 (and in many other countries, it's even lower at 15 or even 14 or you can be in Japan where it's absurdly disturbingly low at 13). In New York it's 17. Quite literally, a minor in any of these state with a lower age of consent than 18 (when federally, a person is no longer a minor) can consent. That's why it's the age of consent. Not saying that what's going on here isn't fucked up and horrendous. It is. But different states have different laws on this. Which is probably why at that party they were so surprised when she said she was a junior, not a senior like they assumed. If Sans had been dating a 17 year old it would still be super gross and repugnant, but it'd be legal. This whole kind of thing had come up only a few years prior to the early 2000s for NBC, when Jerry Seinfeld started dating a high school girl in the late 1990s. At the time, it was incredibly incredibly scandalous in the tabloid media that covered it, but everyone at NBC was basically like "he makes this network millions of dollars every year and it's technically legal so we won't make a fuss."

[@KD-ou2np]

@@mysticx0 the only people who think 15yr olds are not easily manipulated, clueless, and insecure are other 15yr olds and people who want to excuse predators.

[@KD-ou2np]

@@MidlifeCrisisJoe i would bet money that you're a teenager yourself because the only people who think that way about kids are people who haven't grown out of their childhood yet. Maybe I shouldn't tell you this, but the fact that you can recite all this bullshit about age of consent laws off the dome, is something most people would find to be a huge red flag.

[@batmangovno]

Where the hell were this girl's parents? How did they not know about any of this?

[@GeneralBulldog54]

This was the Internet of the very early days. They probably thought it was for school, job or going out with friends since it was the weekend. Also, if the plaintiff was from the tri-state region (so think Pennsylvania or New Jersey) they theoretically could've made it to NYC and made it back in little time.

[@michaelsoltesz3779]

Children need love and guidance. When they don’t get it from parents….they often look for it in worse places…because they don’t know any better.

[@ar2042]

How did a junior of highschool go to so many hollywood parties full of rich untouchable people and not being talked to by an adult? Its like a walking time bomb

[@windmonkey95]

dropping her off at these parties, more than likely.

[@medusagorgo5146]

Well, if they were anything like my mother, they probably didn’t care. I grew up basically on my own, with no structure or guidance. My mother worked a lot (she was a nurse) and if she wasn’t in bed with a migraine, then she was out partying with friends. I had no limitations and I did whatever I wanted, I drank, smoked pot, went to bars (I had a fake ID) and stayed out all night but hey, it was the 1980’s and we all thought we were going to die in a nuclear war lol. It all worked out in the end, I joined the army and we haven’t died in a nuclear war….yet. Btw, my mother is a much better grandmother than she ever was a mother and I made myself a promise to be a better mother to my children than she was. I think I succeeded.

[@SuperCroc69]

Level headed, non hyperbolic video. Rare commodity. Subbed.

[@CybershamanX]

Hey, Georg. I know this might sound weird to say, but great video. I really appreciate your work on stories like this as you drag the twitching vampiric corpse of corporate sexual harassment into the light of the sun. Question: have you been following the ongoing cases of sexual harassment in the gaming industry? Blizzard Entertainment is the latest to get its moment in the light, but it has been happening with other companies, too. (Of course; as if its a rare occurrence.) Bethesda had its moment not very long ago. As per usual, the main offenders got shuffled around/different titles while the obligatory, lower ranked sacrificial lamb or two was thrown onto the chopping block. The Blizzard fiasco is a real shit show. If you haven't seen it already, it might be worth a look. It's got some ludicrously awful elements/responses from the company in it. On the other hand, I can imagine that researching these kinds of stories might be exhausting/depressing, so I would understand if taking on yet another one would be difficult. At any rate, please take care and thanks again for the work you do. 😎

[@patrickdavenport6254]

Where the F were the parents???? How does a 15 year old just get to go to after parties?

[@fall190]

your daughter is going to parties with rich men in another state, sure ITS FINE ...

[@nhmooytis7058]

She pursued HIM. And these days 16 is no child! If she didn’t like it she shouldn’t have kept seeing him. That’s not victim blaming. Still the guys were dolts, didn’t they ever hear the old saying “Sixteen will hey you 20”?

[@patrickdavenport6254]

@@nhmooytis7058 But the law will say she's 16, and that is that. They will not care one iota about how "grown" she was. He's going to jail regardless. And even if she was old acting or even manipulative, he was still twice her age, so he probably had the upper hand as far as manipulation goes. Plus, he should have known better and been strong enough to say, "No! You're a kid! I will give you an autograph, but that is it. Go home!"

[@maximusprime3459]

True, 15 year old girls with the will and determination of a woman twice her age can find their way into a lot of places.

[@nhmooytis7058]

@@maximusprime3459 age of consent should be 14, to keep up with teen culture now. Anything below, harsh sentences. Anything above if consensual, personal business, unless involving positions of trust like teacher/student and doctor/patient.

[@blackhatfreak]

I know for a fact that Jimmy Fallon is a very angry drunk; he almost choked Zach Cregger to death, his words.

[@andrewwoodward8563]

Holy fuck, is that real? Do you have a source for this information, please?

[@blackhatfreak]

@@andrewwoodward8563 It was on a Newsboyz Stream, it should be on the Official WKUK VoD channel.

[@andrewwoodward8563]

@@blackhatfreak do you know what episode it was? Or what the clip is titled?

[@galifan]

@@blackhatfreak seconded, what episode is it?

[@Grinder1999X]

I heard he used to go party with 2 shirts cause he'd do coke and sweat so much. Idk how true that is

[@jakethet3206]

At first, I was confused how this could take down a network. All the networks have survived stuff like this. Then you got to the part where Lorne met this girl, and then I understood.

[@Kainlarsen]

I already hated SNL for being mediocre... this just makes it more founded.

[@geelee1977]

The person that has MORE culpability than Horatio, are the PARENTS!....I'll be damned if my 15 year old child is going to ANY after part, let alone an SNL after party.

[@theodorebear6714]

*"If you want to metoo me you can but I'm a different person now."* Right so people who have been abused need permission from their abusers to come forward? I don't think so. Naturally the creep denies what he did to her too. That's not really letting her come forward about the abuse.

[@BarginsGalore]

“I’m a different person from when I did the thing that I absolutely didn’t do and it wasn’t as bad as you said”

[@pablodmdp]

You seem quite judgemental over somebody who is trying to apologize, and make amends. And whose apology is being used against him. U must have a sparkling clean record to be preaching like that, friend 👌

[@calebk9111]

Even though it says that making these allegations would be unnecessary now, this statement also admits that he did wrong. That's important.

[@chenzenzo]

The moment the plaintiff disclosed she was "a junior in high school," the conversations and contact should have ended there. "Later at the party" should have never happened. I don't like Fallon in the least, and could take or leave Sanz, though I'm unsure about what "Talent" SNL casting agents saw in either of them, let alone the vast majority of cast members since 2002. Either way, I enjoy the analysis by Georg Rockall-Schmidt far more than I've enjoyed SNL since Phil Hartman was killed.

[@GuyNamedSean]

I wanna know who the fuck was that called Sanz out but then did literally nothing to stop things from continuing. That's almost as disgusting to me as being the actual culprit.

[@basilbaby7678]

Hartman was a class act.

[@jnauttube]

I hadn't heard of Sanz until today. The only thing I know about Fallon is that he's never been funny. Ever.

[@jbjacobs9514]

But unless I missed something, and you are certainly welcome to tell me so, Fallon was not involved in this nor did he sexually assault or abuse anyone. Was he one of the ones present? I feel this is sort of manipulative including his name here while no info is disseminated about his involvement or lack thereof. If there is a link to other situations where he was involved, please tell me!

[@redvenge709]

@@jbjacobs9514 Um, did you miss the part where Fallon gave her beer and casually asked her what her plans after high school were? The whole "the table went very quiet when the plaintiff disclosed she was a junior in high school" bit? There are other occasions where she is harassed and Fallon was present. Georg's question is "why did all of you stand there ignoring or even encouraging this?", which one can certainly apply to Fallon.

[@Elbenzo64]

Universal Studios probably running the numbers right now on how cheaply they can change the theme of an entire attraction

[@bydreaminc]

Which attraction?

[@chartreux1532]

Somehow i completely missed this Story, which is weird, usually such stories are even covered regionally all the way here in the Bavarian Alps. That said, is anyone surprised at all? This isn't the first time NBC (along with many other US Channels) had such Scandals. There is a Reason why the "Stereotype" of American Media, whether Hollywood or outside of Hollywood had this "Stereotype" of grooming, sexual blackmailing and more since it's Inception. Hell, as a Historian i found such Reports all the way back in the early 1920s in French, German, British and of course American Newspapers. Hollywood and Media in general have this Image since forever and it's well deserved Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

[@khosrow]

Jimmy Fallon is untouchable. They delay making a fuss about the law suit for as long as they can.

[@derrickmiles5240]

They think shiskas are trash to be used up and thrown away.

[@DerAykac]

You´re not the only one who completely missed this. FAZ, Zeit, Spiegel and Sueddeutsche didn´t report on this, not that i´m aware of at least. It´s just a guess but i assume our tv stations didn´t report on this either. Makes you think, doesn´t it?

[@chartreux1532]

@@DerAykac Yeah definitely strange, they did report immediately on it in the past when there were such News

[@terig8974]

For some reason media production seems to attract the most vile of hedonists.

[@circuitsandcigars1278]

I was expecting Horacio to say “I don’t like you anymore because you got old turning 16” sick bastid

[@shermansadventure1151]

Paedophilia rife within the entertainment industry?! No way, you've gotta be kidding me!!!

[@Onoesmahpie]

Yes such, among other reasons (mainly modern movies/tv is god awful IMO), is why I have completely stopped giving money to the entertainment industry.

[@e5141981]

Not taking sanz of the hook for his actions but where was this girls parents during all these encounters? Why would you let your child go to these events knowing she was going to be surrounded by adults? Adults do adult things.

[@BigFatCock0]

Just add them to the list of people responsible.

[@foxlancaster4044]

This is my question, as well. She traveled out of state to attend all-night after parties at 16? Parenting: you're doing it wrong.

[@LyaksandraB]

I am of course going to get crucified for "victim blaming", but what the fuck was she thinking? The "pressure" he began exerting was over the internet. What kind of dumbass falls for that? SEND ME NUDE PICTURES! No. Period, full stop, end of document. Of course, you need to have the morality, principles and education in order to know it's wrong and you should say no, which takes us right back to her parents' lackluster education.

[@joshs2734]

I'm not saying the parents shouldn't be more involved, they should have. But grooming children and sexual abuse is not "adult things". "Adults do adult things makes it sound like this fucked up behavior is just what everyone does and should be accepted. Yes, they do adult things, with other adults..not with high schoolers.

[@dinolandra]

@@LyaksandraB children fall for it all the time. She clearly had no guidance since her parents were letting her go out of state to meet people.

[@llYossarian]

6:26 - Maybe it stems from your not being familiar with average ages/grades in American high school ("juniors" and "seniors" are usually 16 and 17 respectively and while 18 is the age of legal adulthood, 16 is usually the age of "consent") ...but the hush that fell over the table would have been from the disclosure that she was a _junior*_ (in high school), not just that she was in high school. That they knew her SATs were upcoming and asked her what she _wanted_ to study in college implies the group only thought she was one year older (or two at most) than she actually was. edit: Now that I've finished the video/seen your last line delivery it seems clear that you DO understand. Sry if I came off as condescending...

[@eparigon]

maybe dont write a comment before you finish a video lol

[@llYossarian]

@@eparigon Yeah, It's definitely one of my worst habits...

[@1dbanner]

Now we know why Fallon and Sanz were always cracking each other up

[@charliefoxtrot3980]

Looks like The Mandalorian will have to recast ANOTHER side character...

[@elroma7712]

This actor was the blue guy?

[@arthurballs9632]

Hollywood's okay with child molesters, but they take the Friederich Engels stance about people who do not share their political ideology

[@mechanomics2649]

​@@arthurballs9632 We get it, you're still bitter about Gina Carano being fired for being a moron.

[@arthurballs9632]

@@mechanomics2649 I would be equally upset if you were slandered, bullied, harassed, fired and blacklisted for "being a moron".

[@bronzergoth7598]

if she was lying she'd make up a far more sensationalist story. seriously almost every girl has been- in highschool, at some party, with some adult man trying to get his hands on us. even without the EXTREMELY damning text messages this is so believable it borders on (unfortunately) mundane. and that's exactly why this behavior has to be prosecuted- it shouldn't be so normal

[@dannydevito7000]

@Stix N' Stones it's not

[@tohaovershell]

This is so, so true. All the girls I went to high school with have experiences like this, because we all went through it together. Me and many of my friends dated guys in their 20s in high school and went to parties with adults present, it should not be so normal, but it is

[@clayformations1638]

Seems this is going to happen to a lot more "celebrities" in the coming years.

[@Aster_Risk]

What do you mean happen to? No one's doing anything to them. They are the problem.

[@clayformations1638]

@@Aster_Risk Yes... that is the frustrating part. Maybe a snowball effect will make them not able to sweep it under the rug.

[@thejamnasium6447]

Like Horatio Sanz through the hourglass... these are the days of our lives.

[@fauxhound5061]

What?

[@covert0overt_810]

🤣

[@Vesperitis]

@@fauxhound5061 "Sanz" sounds like "sand" "Like sand through an hourglass, these are Days of Our Lives" is the intro of an old long running soap opera called, well, Days of Our Lives.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

I'm not surprised that this happened, the Saturday Night Live set has always been a prime place for this kind of thing. Perhaps most surprising is that anyone thought that any of these people were worth protecting when the show has been far from the powerhouse it once was.

[@demarcdegasol]

We don’t actually know if it has happened it’s just a story at this point. Don’t rush to judgement

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

@@demarcdegasol I just said I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not assuming anything I've just heard stories about how the set was. Even from the start it was well known for booze and coke and wild parties and it's unlikely it's gotten any better. However, I'm not assuming anything, it could just be she's lying and hoping the rep would sell the idea. At this point, it could go either way.

[@nataliekowalski7885]

So-if the show we’re still a powerhouse, the abusers would be worth protecting

[@Aycheffe]

if you know anything about theatre groups, its a highly sexually charged atmosphere. most of the actors end up hooking up with one another. its quite normal actually

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

@@Aycheffe I don't know about now but back when the show first started, backstage was, by all accounts, like a frat house.

[@ColdWerdz]

Where were her parents?

[@pascalcooper4518]

This begs the question... where were Jane Doe's parents when all this was "allegedly" going on?

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Same thing every parent with a child in the entertainment industry does. Silently racking in the money

[@dredwick]

They were living as pieces of shit.

[@markstamp3937]

Valid question but it doesn’t in any way absolve the alleged behaviour if true

[@mechanomics2649]

Probably happy that their kid got to meet her heroes. The climate and outlook on showbusiness was a lot different to the average person at the time.

[@yoredeerleader]

I don’t think you can adequately talk about the Internet of the early noughties without mentioning geocities and ask Jeeves.

[@EggBastion]

or NAViGaTR

[@jetjazz05]

@@EggBastion or mAP qUEst

[@HOTD108_]

Tekwar is still a thing.

[@camrunner6633]

Angelfire image hoasting

[@Ozymondias99]

Prodigy

[@liaminwales]

SNL the show that was founded on nose "candy" & speedballs, the shock that there may be something dark in there history. The entire entertainment industry & the consumers are complicit.

[@uselessDM]

Well, just wait until my suit against the George Rockall-Schmidt Show goes through. All those podcasts left a scar.

[@PerfectTangent]

He had no pants...

[@uselessDM]

I could see EVERYTHING your honor. Well, after I got my magnifying glasses out anyway.

[@BadlanderOutsider]

Sometimes he has a beard. Sometimes he does not. IT CANNOT STAND.

[@HappyCynic]

The lava lamp touched me.

[@deanobeany]

"He just kept saying 'HIP TANG HIP TANG' and I felt powerless"

[@blujaebird]

Where are these kids' parents?

[@jthom0027]

Where are these celebrity's bosses especially when these parties are happening on company ground? Oh thats right, they are usually sitting right next to where the assaults are happening.

[@caladanrude6395]

@@jthom0027 Both questions are legitimate.

[@Luneland]

I was watching a video of a similar case but with a female Broadway theare actress who groomed a teenager girl and that was my same question. My mom didn't even let me go to the mall unaccompanied. But remember not all families are so caring, maybe she had one of those parents who don't give a phuck.

[@longliverocknroll5]

Honestly though, who cares? It shouldn’t take parents being overly intrusive to not have kids being sexually groomed by adults. DOZENS of adults watched this happen.

[@caladanrude6395]

@@longliverocknroll5 you don't think parents have a responsibility to not let their 16year old daughter fly out to Hollywood to hang out backstage of SNL? Obviously the perpetrators deserve all due punishment that goes without saying but do you really not understand parental responsibility?

[@Tony78454]

I think this kind of stuff belongs in court not as content for a film reviewer... I suppose people love sex crimes

[@GayFrogsTho]

My father's bowel cancer was more entertaining than SNL. At this point, I'd be more surprised if rumours came out that everyone involved was actually really cool, funny and yet held sturdy moral principles.

[@moehoward8691]

Do you have moral principles?

[@EpicGamingDwarf]

Would love to see you cover similar cases like this, mainly the activision blizzard lawsuit comes to mind, especially with just how insane activision blizzards actions have been during the suit

[@inverted_pizza]

only when a show is in decline will they throw these people to the wolves. Never before

[@mechanomics2649]

This is not even true. It's more coincidence that these shows are past their prime. The fact is that society is more open to taking allegations like these seriously than it was before. Of course people are going to speak out now.

[@theCarbonFreeze]

@@mechanomics2649 Yeah but the industry covers for them until theres nothing left. People get thrown to the wolves only after theyve peaked

[@mmickle6191]

Change is needed. Big companies need to stop with this '80s-style "here's money to make this go away so we can keep our 'integrity'" schtick. Those companies need to cut out the cancer, all the way to the top. Abuse of power needs to be eliminated.

[@MuadMouse]

They can't. They hide behind laws that require corporations to make profits for their owners, and there's more profit in silencing victims than in endangering their brand. "Owners' profits above all else" is the foundation of capitalism, and as long as it prevails there will be no accountability. Besides, sexual abuse of minors is just the sort of forbidden fruit that the rich like to enjoy in order to make themselves feel above the rest of us, so they have no incentive to give it up as long as they are in power. Want to actually stop this abuse from happening? Join a revolutionary organization. For real.

[@JosephFuller]

Change was needed 40 years ago.

[@mmickle6191]

@@JosephFuller Couldn't agree more. This situation of wealth and power getting away with it is much too sinisiter.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

Abuse of power is usually how companies get big, and if by some miracle it's not, it's definitely how they stay big. Never trust a company that's existed longer than its founders. If every corporation were automatically dissolved and unspent funds dispersed evenly to all employees when its founding members died, you'd see a freer market and less abuse all around.

[@summarity]

I'm just here for the "backslash" backlash

[@cheechalker8430]

Notice how quiet the media has been about this If this had been Fox News, the story would be 24/7 on CNN and MSNBC

[@manlystranger4973]

The table went very quiet... and then no one at the table did a single thing to help a minor who they knew was involved in an inappropriate relationship with their co-worker. Age old wisdom tells us power corrupts, but in this instance, power or no power, wasn't the guy always and doesn't he remain a pedophile? The power simply gave him the ability to act out his corrupt fantasies at the expense of a young child, but this is always who he was and who he is. And Jimmy Fallon who has been preaching at us for years utilizing his amazing powers of sanctimony didn't have any issues with his friend pedophiling a child in his presence and even helped him.

[@jnnx]

Because he wasn’t their co-worker, he was on-air talent. And without checks and balances, power will always corrupt, and absolute power will always corrupt, absolutely.

[@CarrotConsumer]

Power doesn't corrupt, it reveals. So many of our actions are guided by fears of ostracization or physical harm. Take those fears away and you'll see the real person.

[@djangofett4879]

I never saw Jimmy Fallon being preachy. he was always the go along to get along kind of talk show host. I think maybe you're confusing him with Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel who are very political.

[@SirWeirdGuy]

@@djangofett4879 Yeah he's the guy that was all friendly with Trump when all the other talkshow hosts refused to engage with him.

[@Assimandeli]

@@SirWeirdGuy Jesus christ how horrible.

[@gerjanm7648]

Real tired of these "where are her parents" comments. Cause you're just shifting the blame.

[@RedCloudServices]

Nothing will happen of any significance. “Its a big club. And you ain’t in it” George Carlin

[@Darrylizer1]

Who would ever have thought that Horatio Sanz had power?!

[@virginiapicker]

No kidding. The way I remember it, he ruined almost every skit he was in because he constantly broke character and started giggling. Fallon was the same way. Two of the weakest cast members ever on SNL, IMO.

[@jamesstaggs4160]

You're that famous and that rich, which means there are plenty of willing women that are of age and likely fairly attractive, women that in no way you need to coerce, and you troll the internet for high school freshmen? Why? You know I'm afraid this sort of thing is probably really common in tv and film. There's been rumblings about it for years, on this platform actually. Some of it was a bit out there, but there's too many former child stars that talk about this subject for it to not be a serious issue and not done isolated event. I do hope this goes to trial and more names are named and people.held accountable.

[@LepusProd]

It's really common

[@Aster_Risk]

Because adult women expect something and are not as easily manipulated (grown men as well, because young boys have been assaulted).

[@djangofett4879]

I think a lot of creepy men have an obsession with virgins and they want a virgin wife or a virgin girlfriend they want to be the first person that she has experienced so that she doesn't have any other experiences by which to compare them. it's an insecurity and an inadequacy.

[@kostajovanovic3711]

@@djangofett4879 also, add power to that mix

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

The whole entertainment industry is a promise for a pool of people who are functionally hedonistic nihilists that if you make it big, you'll be allowed to indulge in whatever you want, no matter how illegal or immoral, so long as you can not get caught or cover it up well enough. Hollywood itself was basically founded by businessmen in league with LA's organized criminal rackets, and its golden age was the same time as the golden age of LA's most famous gangster, Mickey Cohen. On the east coast, the theater industry had deep ties and connections to Italian mafias. There are obvious and explicit connections between the Recording Industry and numerous criminal outfits both in the long ago past (look at the Sinatra-Mafia stuff) or the more recent past (it wasn't called "Gangsta Rap" in the 90's because they weren't working with actual gangsters.) These are industries that have always skirted the law and morality, and often flaunted their hatred for both. It's why film producers could pump Judy Garland full of drugs in the 1940's and do the same to Corey Feldman and Corey Haim (inbetween raping both of them) in the 1980's. A ton of this stuff is all hidden in plain sight. But you have to go through tons of history, read or at least skim a ton of autobiographies, and read far too many gossip rags and tabloids to get the full picture of how truly depraved show business is, and even then, you really have to live in it or know people who do before you start learning anything really awful. Frankly, most people don't have time for that, and they want to pretend that the people who play heroes, are heroes, or at least aren't villains. But they are.

[@Boog3rman]

It's just now getting news coverage on August 24th 2022

[@aminemouktafi7136]

prosecution : mr sanz, why don't you take a seat right over there

[@raijin2950]

Given that there is a similar lawsuit against an ex Fox News employee right now (isn't the first for that company nither) I suppose I shouldn't be suprised. Considering whats happening in the gaming industy right now with Activision/Blizzard, Ubisoft and Riot Games, these issues are disturbingly widespread and exposes a pervasive and systemic problem that desperately needs to be addressed.

[@dubuyajay9964]

This is what you get when you mix counter-culture "free love" with moral relativism. It just took about 50 years for the fruit to fully ripen.

[@letsburn00]

I personally suspect that in every single industry, there are terrible people who need to be brought to heel. The idea that you can just treat people like shit and that when you're successful, you can take advantage of lower people. Which then that means that basic rules of decorum and ethics don't apply is common now, and in the past it was 100% the norm. My own states primary industry (mining) is currently dealing with a huge rash of rape and sexual harassment cases. Stuff that was just "how thing are" back then, when in reality, you're probably ruining someone else's life or career.

[@mitchh3092]

We just need to never shut up about them or they'll go away again like they always do.

[@PhiltheMoko]

@@dubuyajay9964 No, this is what happens when people get enough power to not be held accountable for their actions by the people around them. The Catholic church, other faith based boarding schools, psychiatric hospitals, political sex scandals, Hollywood, sexual abuse in the military, even in humanitarian organisations. Unfortunately it turns out it's a global problem throughout all of society.

[@raijin2950]

@@mitchh3092 I agree, corporations will generally obfuscate as much relevant information as possible and delay legal action. Waiting for the media cycle to move on and then continue as they always have making no meaningful changes. We also have to be careful not to focus only on the perpitrators implicated but also on the systems and enviroment that allowed this to happen in the first place. For example the hostile and toxic work culture and enviroment at Activision/Blizzard was no accident or mistake. Unfortunatly simply firing and prosecuting the perpetrators won't stop others from doing the same although it would act as a deterant and demonstrate that they are not invaluable.

[@horchatatee5407]

Imagine trying to pull the "I'm a different person now" shit with other crimes involving someone's physical well-being. Like murder, domestic violence or bombing a place with people in it. That shit wouldn't and shouldn't fly

[@SocialistStrike]

Legally speaking, yeah, for murder, terrorism, and sexual assault of minors there's generally no statute of limitations, but for domestic violence and many other things, including sexual assault of an adult there is legally a statute of limitations generally. I think there should definitely be some form of proof of the charges, but I don't think there should be a statute, or if so, it should be like 20 years or something. Sanz and some of the NBC/SNL affiliates should be jailed, fired, cancelled, etc. Morally speaking "I'm a different person now", I believe should be taken into consideration as a matter of public opinion, but not legally speaking. If I'm not mistaken, over the course of 7 years, nearly every cell in the body gets replaced, barring some exceptions. A ship whos planks have all been replaced is no longer the same ship. People need an opportunity to become different people, better people. Cancel culture has destroyed the idea of forgiveness. Prison is meant to be about *containment/quarantine if you're a present danger to the public, but also *rehabilitation to take someone who did a bad thing and make them learn a lesson. Of course they aren't required to learn their lesson, but they should have their rights restored after their term of imprisonment and probation are over. The stain of the past should be absolved until proven otherwise.

[@austincde]

Filling up prisons is not the answer either imho

[@kdandsheela]

"comon' guys, I've really grown since then!" Huh, that's funny considering many of your victims haven't 🤔

[@kdandsheela]

@@austincde I think what's really filling up the prisons are more victimless acts like property crime and drug possession. We should definitely rehibilitate perpetrators of direct violence for both the sake of the perpetrator and victim

[@davidburroughs2244]

I'll bet he weinstein's this - runs off to a rehab facility for seven days, cries to the camara, and all is forgiven

[@PixelatedH2O]

If these accusations are true, those who victimized this girl should be strongly penalized for it. However, how were this girl's parents completely clueless and allowing her to attend all these parties and such?

[@katrinalemcke2806]

Not everyone has involved parents. It isn't shocking that a teenager could hide their activities either if the parents are busy.

[@mercury_rising]

@@katrinalemcke2806 she came from out of state!!!

[@katrinalemcke2806]

@@mercury_rising I'm not sure what you mean. There are negligent parents everywhere. There are parents who would love if their kid hung out with "celebrities". I don't understand what is so shocking about a teenager hiding their activities, especially in the 00s.

[@mercury_rising]

@@katrinalemcke2806 you are right that there are negligent parents everywhere. But the difference is, their kids aren’t suing for harm done to them due to that negligence.

[@lsb2623]

and how did a junior in high school get to these parties? where is the parents? Sounds like parents cashing in by feeding their daughters to monsters.

[@Heathmcdonald]

That's actually what it is. It always has been. Have you seen the end of eyes wide shut? That's a pretty accurate depiction and it works the exact same way in the drug world. Nothing is spoken so people pretend it's not happening but it is, wives daughters everyone has a price tag and they will let you know when the meter is up. It's really sickening and I don't understand how people live with themselves

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

If you read up on the Epstein victims, it's quite tragic because most of their parents are disinterested in their daughters and their whereabouts. A lot of these girls are treating these parties as "gigs". They got money and attention from these men, only to realize decades later that they've been groomed.

[@toomanymarys7355]

The parents aren't "cashing in." They were "cool modern parents!" Anyone who gets in the way of their kid's hook-ups was mocked...by Hollywood and popular media....in the 1990s and early 2000s. But there is no connection.

[@thedarintino]

Horatio Sanz was just a no-talent hack placeholder for the “fat cast member” while Lorne waited for the next Belushi or Farley to appear. Hell, even Tony Rosato from the abysmal 81-82 season was funnier than Sanz.

[@marsbron767]

Some monsters are too big to fell, like a hydra its many heads keep it alive

[@Onoesmahpie]

Yes, stop supporting hollywood as I have. Big budget entertainment is pandering and vapid

[@vincentwatkins1892]

The hydra didn't stay alive because it had so many heads, but because it could regenerate heads seemingly limitlessly. Even a one-headed hydra would prove difficult to kill.

[@jliller]

"Mind your own business, don't judge others, who am I to tell anyone how to live their life?" is inherently at odds with "See something, say something."

[@LyaksandraB]

Yep. Just as "need no man" and basically every aspect of civilization feminists make use of.

[@Aster_Risk]

@@LyaksandraB Yes, found the person blaming feminism on a video of yet another man abusing children! Anything to never take responsibility as a man.

[@deadliestvice5356]

@@Aster_Risk They took responsibility for the creation of the modern world, i.e. the everyday accommodations that allow us to be the most free and wealthy society since its inception and beyond for the foreseeable future. Feminism is the direct result of that, because no one would dare to even think about such banalities during an age of war.

[@escher10000]

Not especially. Anybody who pretends you can't oppose sexual abuse without being an asshole is looking for an excuse to engage in one or the other. It is possible to let consenting adults live their lives in peace without turning a blind eye to the abuse of people who aren't consenting or aren't adults.

[@SirWeirdGuy]

@@Aster_Risk It's always someone else's fault