Gerard Whateley and David King break down the AFL Grand Final - SEN

The final Monday Means Test of the year! Join David King and Gerard Whateley for an in-depth analysis of the 2022 AFL Grand Final.
0:00 Initial GF takeaways
11:20 Patrick Dangerfield interview
21:13 1st Quarter
25:54 2nd Quarter
30:03 3rd Quarter
35:53 4th Quarter
41:51 Final Votes

[@Alfredromeothatsme]

As a Geelong fan I have to be honest and say I lost heart after last years finals. The turnaround has been unbelievable. Kudos to all involved.

[@cbgg1585]

Can’t blame you. No one would have saw this coming. Sure, Geelong can never be written off as they are proven list management pros, but to win the flag in such dominant fashion is worth commending.

[@jasonevans4291]

You should be thanking the inside man! Steve Hocking

[@nathancooper1]

As much as I hate the Cats, I’ve got nothing but massive respect for what they have done this year. Been a privilege to watch it.

[@Ozvideo1959]

I felt the same way at about round 6, after we lost to Hawthorn. I remember commenting at the time that our time as a top four team was over. I'm glad to say I got that wrong.

[@mattfuller7313]

Nathan, out of pure curiosity. Why do you hate Geelong? I think they are generally considered one of the best cultures in the game, a long standing club, fans that aren’t particularly rude or abusive (I don’t think). I’m just curious, maybe it was a throw away line from you. Maybe not.

[@godamid4889]

Professional club. They play the game the way it should be played. So happy for the entire community, coaches and players.

[@leighmurrell5494]

They had a "Team" this year as opposed to just a bunch of good players. Very impressive all around!

[@TheGezzagirl55]

I loved the fact of how cleanly played the game was. No hugely noticeable breaches and no major injuries is a plus.

[@paulkyriakopoulos3444]

A breezy win and a bruise free prem win. A swans choke of all time.

[@godamid4889]

@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 a bloke like you would have been folded like paper money. Not sure where you get off saying it was bruise free.

[@tin-n-tan]

​@@godamid4889 I saw Geelong players smash multiple swannies. Z Guthrie was flattening dudes!

[@godamid4889]

@@tin-n-tan yep, lol - it was great!

[@kalebarancelovic]

12 months is a long time. I remember when Geelong lost to Melbourne in last year's preliminary final in Perth, Chris Scott was being shown the door by the media and people were calling for a massive overhaul of their list.

[@thexentrader897]

the media are parasites in any or every area of life ....how the masses still watch/listen to the idiot box is a fkn joke and a fkn disgrace

[@jimhaze87]

GO CATS!!

[@ddw-ge1ss]

Well the list has changed heaps

[@protoindoeuropean]

Which is precisely why change came. His system wasn’t working and got new ideas

[@cbgg1585]

The irony is, Melbourne have reverted back to Geelong predictable down the line one on one footy, while Geelong took what Melbourne were successful in in 2021 and ran with it. Now it’s Godwin’s turn to change things up which were non existent all season!

[@cuzzywuzzyfuzzy]

The team overhauled it’s gameplan took a huge gamble and every change possible seemingly paid off

[@terrythekittieful]

No stuffing about this time, that boring old handball, handball, handball down back and barely getting ten metres closer to goal, that sort of thing was thrown out to be replaced by more risk, more attack, more dare, they perfected it and hardly put a foot wrong on Grand Final day. Can hardly wait for the DVD and watch all those fantastic plays.

[@cuzzywuzzyfuzzy]

@@terrythekittieful teams couldn’t set up behind the ball. If it was a short kick it was a incision that hurt you through the middle of ground or an attacking move. Just as dominant contested as the best teams and a even balance of pace experience

[@joelwooden4733]

Danger had an inspiring game. I know they love danger, however, you can't deny his potency and will to win. Danger cops a lot of undue hate due to his personality - you can't play the way he has over the years without some hate.

[@joelwooden4733]

He will and should go down as a legend

[@cbgg1585]

People don’t hate Scott Pendlebury, people don’t hate Dustin Martin, people don’t hate Josh P Kennedy, people don’t hate Luke Shuey, people don’t hate Ollie Wines, People don’t hate Petracca, people don’t hate Lachie Neale.. All these players are superstars who play a similar brand of footy to Dangerfield throughout their careers. Dangerfield is just plain unlikeable. The guy is a fl0g of the highest order.

[@pauldoherty6413]

@@cbgg1585 why do you hate him then? What riles you up so much about him? I’m sure he’s dying to know!

[@michaelsinclair8018]

@@cbgg1585 Strange you put Dustin Martin there. Vile, "I am so shy" Dusty.

[@glenscholes9213]

Danger is so far up himself its not funny

[@PetraKann]

David King should be coaching. Excellent analyst

[@fuzznakano]

He’s the best

[@14lenox]

100% !!

[@mattfuller7313]

He used to be an assistant with Richmond.

[@Bendoverandgrabyourankles]

David king is the best at analysing a game Simple as that.

[@297fihsy]

I agree with Kingy - why didn’t Geelong play like this earlier?! A lot of it is due to personnel, sure. But Geelong of the last 5 years were always a much scarier team when they were behind and had nothing to lose.

[@tin-n-tan]

it's all a little overblown man. we have consistently rinsed teams for 5 years. a lucky bounce a few shitty umpiring decisions and we have 2-3 flags in the cabinet. that's not ripping on any other team either, it's hard to win flags and you need everything going right. we went into multiple finals series previously with our best players (Stewie, Hawkins) not playing or injured (Joel, Danger, Jezza). We also didn't have Jezza who is a top 5-10 in the comp player, and some of our younger players needed to get bigger, stronger and more experienced (Guthrie, Miers, etc). flags are hard to win. (I'd also argue that this year's competition was weaker. Richmond were a good team with one of the best finals players that has ever lived. Collingwood, lol. Sydney, lol. both these teams wpuod struggle to have more than 1-2 players that would make the Cats team if you played everyone in position).

[@newdiggszweiundsiebzig]

This is the really frustrating element for close followers of the Cats - shouldn’t have taken so long. Anyway, I’m satisfied at least that this talented list is now a Premiership one.

[@tin-n-tan]

meh, we were a few shitty umpiring decisions and Dusty away from winning a couple more.

[@perrystalsisworldofbiology767]

It was over after Hawkins kicked those first two goals by just pushing his opponents away like they were 12 year olds.

[@greebo7857]

Love this format, SEN, but please can you turn off the screen in the studio if you keep doing it?

[@championsofitaly9321]

Kingy nailed the 3 votes, I thought Stengle was best on and has been best recruit of the year from a Hawk

[@joeyfotofr]

I'm trying to get my head into footie and I look up to see that you're playing a 49er game in the background. I loved it... Go 9ers...jt

[@harryhookings650]

well for starters mate, its footy and not footie :)

[@joeyfotofr]

@@harryhookings650 Thanks Harry, FOOTY, got it. Since, I'm a Californian who lives n France & am already spelling badly in several languages why not Aussie. i appreciate correction...jt

[@lloydtownsend4316]

@@joeyfotofr love to see you getting into it - it's a great sport with so much excitement. If you ever have any questions I'd be happy to help

[@lloydtownsend4316]

P.S go Packers

[@joeyfotofr]

@@lloydtownsend4316 Thanks man, My French plombier, (plumber), Is my friend Michael O'Leary who is from Geelong. He's as much of a Geelong fan, as I am a 49er fan, so I have a local coach. It amazed me how similar the business side is shared between the two sports... that & this idea the the field is different in different stadiums which changes the geometry of everything. What inspired me was the brilliant way they played togeather as a team - even knowing almost nothing of the rules that jumped off the screen right away. Loved it.

[@dubmoth76]

Yay!

[@itssimo0374]

Dangerfield should have won Norm Smith

[@ptizzle9343]

I reckon horse packed the white flag in his travel bag, and his gameplan was all wrong. Seeing papley start in the centre square was an early sign, an attempt to provide some spark in there. Hickey got schooled and Reid was underdone, from there it was all down hill.

[@cmadelaide56]

Papley has started in the centre square for almost every one of the 9 games in a row that Sydney won. There was nothing new in him starting there. JLs game plan was fine, Geelong we’re just far and away the strongest team of the year and they played a near perfect game.

[@supercoachkissofdeath9325]

No one was beating Geelong this year

[@andrewhowden6198]

Except Sydney… back in Round 2 of course 😂, well played Geelong, Kingy’s first sentence summed it up. Neutral supporters witnessed great players who paid all their dues, like Selwood and Smith, get their lasting glory.

[@sonjakozman1699]

@@andrewhowden6198 then Sydney lost by 80 points, how embarrassing.

[@Tony_Pepperoni_]

except for freo at geelong's home ground lmao

[@shramo]

Kingy: "Told ya!"

[@subtlefeatures1087]

Really weird I had close as a real game breaker was watching it at the g too. It’s funny he says men vs boys. I said to my partner the cats lads look more physically built. More mature.

[@robbh2405]

Geelong should've won by more as they missed quite a few shots at goal.

[@mrnegative48]

only took Scott 10 years to play a bit more attacking, was well coached this year

[@dama301]

Disgraceful how Whately pushes for Night grand final - he is biased working for football media. If they move to a Night grand final AFL will not be as good and the day will no longer be special. The media push this and most fans don't want this. I mean the main reason mentioning it'll be better at night is for the musical performancs, I mean are you serious? I reckon as many people were watching the game. They just weren't each stuck at their own home

[@paulkyriakopoulos3444]

It a night time final will eventually happen it's all got to do with the big bucks and that is root of all evil.

[@dama301]

@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 sadly that's completely right $$$

[@tastyj111]

I personally prefer nighttime games incl the grand final. I just think it looks better. I'm probly not the majority though

[@dama301]

@@tastyj111 fair enough, I like the nightime prelims into a day grand final.

[@waynekavanagh745]

Sydney were never going to last the game out, last week they were stuffed by three quater time.

[@edmcboy7308]

Football is very serious

[@lukemcnabb_1]

Up the catters!!!!

[@Redandwhite_bluesuedeshoes]

Who was the one who said: ‘Chris, your game plan isn’t working’…..?

[@godamid4889]

Probably Chris.

[@itssimo0374]

Unless you were a cats fan it was a bad way to end the year!

[@neilcampbell3212]

Sidney were finished at three quarter time against Collingwood

[@johndesign39]

Men Vs boys

[@72jaymbee]

Oh come on "as good as you'll see" - great season, boring GF tho amazing team the cats

[@297fihsy]

It was an incredibly boring match. Though I think Kingy meant “as good as you’ll see” in terms of Geelong themselves

[@paulkyriakopoulos3444]

Maybe we think it's boring but in reality cats out muscled out played and have to say out coached. Frightening this cats team.

[@godamid4889]

@@297fihsy you're right. No one gives a shit about what the neutrals thought.

[@paulcasey5204]

Preferred the old camera angles, this is toooooo close............

[@rt-ks2bh]

People on this page are saying david king should be coaching,,but you dingbats will be that 1st to knock him when he starts losing games,,sitting on a comfy chair talking about it sounds really good doesnt it,,but in the real world coaching is bloody ruthless and bloody hard,,,when a coach is winning nobody says anything but when a coach is losing everybody puts him down real quick,,an unexperienced coach ,,,i have my doubts,,,sorry but thats the cold hard truth,,as an analyst fantastic,,game overrrr

[@championsofitaly9321]

Shades of Hawthorn 2014 for the Sydney Swans. Bad luck Mugasso’s 🤙🏽

[@petermcculloch4933]

As a neutral football supporter I am pleased Geelong crushed Sydney's traffic jam style game plan.

[@cmadelaide56]

Traffic jam? It’s not 2005 - did you watch any Sydney games this year?!

[@petermcculloch4933]

@@cmadelaide56 Yeah, I watched a couple of games and I tired of the ump calling for a ball up after ball up after ball up.They were not so bad on the bigger grounds where they couldn't lock the game down.Even Essendon were able to beat them on the MCG but on the smaller SCG, no, I refused to watch after about mid season.To me, Sydney are a bad advertisment for the game.

[@harryhookings650]

@@petermcculloch4933 and its as if the sydney fans dont know the rules the way they yell at the umpires i understand that 90% of fans are like that but from personal experiences sydney fans are some of the worst

[@russellcampbell9198]

It wouldn't have worked so well four years ago because they didn't have the players either literally or in their development to be successful at it.

[@antonverzak3304]

Patrick Dangerfield was best on ground. Go watch the game again. Norm Smith went to the wrong person.

[@kochstevens3210]

never seems to b any descent open play on the SCG because its like a soccer ground(too short & narrow)Sydney play it well, but struggle on a proper AFL ground's like the MCG.

[@pauldixon1766]

Maybe check their record at mcg and marvel in last 5 years and revisit that statement?

[@kochstevens3210]

@@pauldixon1766 point is we should have big playing surfaces for all 36 players to display their skills, not a soccer ground where u get gang tackled by 4 or 5 players every time the ball spills free. AFL at the SCG is like watching rugby. Accor stadium would b a better long term option for the AFL as its similar to the MCG.

[@tclayden1]

As a neutral fan and was a dreadful game to watch (again) turned off 10 mins into third. To many grand finals are one-sided! Congrats to the cats, well deserved flag.

[@moregoldmoregold]

What a smacking

[@themetalpig7613]

What logic is King using to say as a neutral viewer that GF was great to watch. It was a slaughterhouse that was over early and boring af! It likely would've been better for neutral fans if the Pies had made it. Sydney were atrocious.

[@jimhaze87]

Pies..🤣🤣🤣

[@TheDirge69]

yep, it reminded me of the tigers-giants granny

[@peterhorrocks9969]

Concur Pig!!!!At the end the fairytale team (Pies) needed to have contested the Granny, not for one second am I suggesting Collingwood would have won but wouldn't have lost by 81 points!!!

[@themetalpig7613]

@@peterhorrocks9969 yeah they had half a season of evidence that they create close games. I mean they lost to Geel by 6 I think and Syd by 1 point.

[@godamid4889]

No one gives a shit what neutrals think. Go have a whinge about the weather.

[@andrewwattie7144]

"For a mutual fan that's as good as it gets". Completely disagree Kingy, as a mutual fan that was dreadful, I stopped watching at half time. The highlight of the day was Robbie Williams. Not to say Geelong didn't play entertaining footy, but it wasn't a contest.

[@stormblessed2673]

how can Kingy say this a great watch for a neutral fan lmao? it was an absolute one sided blow out, seems the tv ratings were down too...

[@patrickmilner4149]

What's there too breakdown? Sydney never turned up and got pummeled, end of story.

[@BorisBewick]

Umm how it happened?

[@patrickmilner4149]

@@BorisBewick they never turned up, that's how

[@jimhaze87]

GO CATS..

[@andrewadam4869]

how was that good for a neutral fan

[@godamid4889]

Who cares? Follow a team that can make the granny next time. It's not about yooooooo....

[@andrewadam4869]

@@godamid4889 I don't care. just saying it was not a good spectacle at all. Also flagmond 2023 mate.

[@godamid4889]

@@andrewadam4869 Kingy wasnt suggesting it was good for neutrals, so that probably answers your original question.

[@gustaaf1892]

These two are real Danger fanboys. Great player, but they are prone to give him credit more easily than other players. Shame the GF was so one-sided. I suspect even some Cats supporters would have liked more of a contest to make it a more memorable occasions.

[@jimhaze87]

Bollocks.. GF was awesome... We were to good.. GO CATS

[@Boz196]

Nah there’s nothing better than an easy grand final. If the 2010 replay was as close as the week prior I probably would’ve dropped dead.

[@mitchking9435]

He was great, deserved norm just as much as smith

[@Redandwhite_bluesuedeshoes]

A master class in the ‘Art Of War’….Putting pressure to bare…..Imposing doubt where it never existed…..Scott will lecture at Harvard like Sir Alex Ferguson…..

[@godamid4889]

Are you stupid? We loved it!

[@timhunter7441]

Worst grand final since Geelong pumped Port by over 100 points.

[@sonjakozman1699]

The gws gf recently was pretty bad, another one to switch off

[@jimhaze87]

Nope 2007 GF Was F*cking awesome after a 43 Year drought.. GO CATS..

[@godamid4889]

That was a great grandfinal. Record breaking. No one cares what neutrals think. The day wasn't for you losers.

[@paulfitzgerald4982]

Nothing could top the way the cats demolished the power in 07 - power supporters still change the subject when 07 is mentioned- lol

[@peterfromgw4615]

@@jimhaze87 Mate, totally agree with you. I had the misfortune to sit through 5 losing Geelong GFs since 1967 prior to the 2007 win. 2007 was redemption for the club and for the supporters. The way the club carried itself this season has been uplifting. Grüße aus Australien.

[@sonjakozman1699]

Collingwood was a more deserving grand final contender.

[@jimhaze87]

Geelong Would've Also Fucking Smashed Collingwood 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@vivekpadmanabhan3260]

Should've won more games then. Lost 2 finals. Can't expect to be in the GF

[@sonjakozman1699]

@@vivekpadmanabhan3260 didn't say I expected them, halfwit, just commenting that collingwood wouldn't have lost by 80 points. Pretty hard to argue that.

[@jimhaze87]

@@vivekpadmanabhan3260 Spot on Mate 👍

[@subtlefeatures1087]

Pies would have got pumped. There’s no “more deserving” or “put up a better fight” they didn’t play because they lost. Pies supporters need to accept that. You only just beat teams in the bottom 10.

[@timwhite8685]

PATTY

[@debtslave9225]

A spectacular watch for neutral fan? A spectacularly boring game more like it. People want a contest to watch to build excitement, not a one sided bloodbath.

[@godamid4889]

Newsbreak: the granny wasn't for the neutral fans and the whingers can gagf! ☺️🖕

[@akuiiratawhi8924]

Richmond would have taken it to the Cats

[@James-tz7zn]

haha

[@brianjones5548]

Pie's I would have thought

[@vikramparmar8093]

what year's Tigers? What a bizarre statement.

[@eponymous7910]

Richmond lol, they're finished

[@scottmcgowan4813]

Richmond lucky to make the Finals and getting beaten by Brisbane in the elimination final....hahaha

[@chemistryset1]

David King is insufferable; I'm not sure how anyone could pay attention to him without losing their mind