Germans vs Soviets Bagration Flames of War V4 Battle Report #8 100 Points

[@toysoldier68]

Great presentation and wonderful miniatures! Subscribed!

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! Working on another flames of war battle today!

[@tritarch6687]

A friend and I like to joke whenever we fail a dig-in checks we say they left their shovels at home.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

😂 better use that helmet and start scooping!

[@mouser98k]

Really well done video, and well painted troops. I know the editing to make this video took a lot of work, it's really appreciated.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thank you!

[@IronBear0023]

Extremely well done video. Please keep uo the great work with V4. Very motivated to play my next game after seeing this.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thank you! 😀

[@Anvilarm07]

Great batrep. I really enjoyed it. A very few minor mistakes, but they have already been mentioned in the comments. I liked the music, the audio and the camera work. And there were great paint jobs on all the models.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks for watching and for the comment!

[@greasycleric2162]

I just started playing FoW with a friend, I bought waaaay too much Soviets so I have enough for mid and late war. These battle reports have helped me so much learning the flow of the game

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

That’s great! Makes it all very worth it. I have a Soviet horde to paint but Anthony will be back for another game soon I hope.

[@MajorSvenGaming]

Your entire channel is just great.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! We're working on a new FoW battle report this week.

[@tabletopgeneralsde310]

Great game buddy, nicely done. The miniatures look great. These tank clusters are so aweful. Take care and happy new year 2022.

[@militarywargaming7840]

Tanks normally have a sop for spacing because of artillery and air but this is a game of war per se and not a wargame. Well presented methinks and a HNY

[@tabletopgeneralsde310]

@@militarywargaming7840 well I know that is the game, but so tight looks just wrong. That does not mean the game was bad or I do not like the players. It is just that I like if the reality is not miles away from the game, that is why I have such big problems with V4 and Team Yankee

[@militarywargaming7840]

@@tabletopgeneralsde310 no I agree entirely with you here and also agree the players and presentation is great. The problem with v4 is it teaches no tactics and actually bad habits methinks which if you try this in a wargame is likely to see you seriously unhinged. Minimal spacing, advance with Overwatch, tank damage fuel and logistics need to be in any game if you are trying to replicate tank warfare along with more realistic terrain methinks..for starters but that’s my opinion for what that is worth. Best wishes

[@militarywargaming7840]

@@tabletopgeneralsde310 no I agree entirely with you here and also agree the players and presentation is great. The problem with v4 is it teaches no tactics and actually bad habits methinks which if you try this in a wargame is likely to see you seriously unhinged. Minimal spacing, advance with Overwatch, tank damage fuel and logistics need to be in any game if you are trying to replicate tank warfare along with more realistic terrain methinks..for starters but that’s my opinion for what that is worth. Best wishes

[@tabletopgeneralsde310]

@@militarywargaming7840 , that is the reason to play battlegroup or only a few tanks, like in BA or CoC. If you want to go crazy, play BA tank war in 15mm. That is also fun, but these tight packed tanks are not my sort of beef. Best wishes to you.

[@Leadive393]

At 28:55, love it how that T34 always passes platoon moral on the re-roll!

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

The commander said fight or I shoot you myself!

[@danielneal264]

FWIW, Under The Cover Of Smoke is not usable under a Meeting Engagement. If the mission doesn't allow pre-planned artillery markers, the card becomes essentially worthless. This is a risk you run taking it to a tournament setting where you don't know mission type for sure in advance. It is very strong though when you can use it.

[@danielneal264]

Also - the bazooka skirts rule gives the Panzer IV a save against RPG-6, because RPG-6 is FP5+. So, it becomes SA5 vs AT10.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! Nobody had called that out yet so I’m glad you did! Will definitely remember that one.

[@danielneal264]

@@MiniatureGameMontage All good - this was a great BR. The pacing is just about perfect and hit all the highlights. Minis looked great, too!

[@GhostMaker00]

Great too see 2 new forces! Thanks

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

He's been working on those Soviets so I'm excited to do more Eastern Front. I just need some terrain that fits. Thanks for watching!

[@christopherwiegand3027]

Stormtrooper rule is the key to German tank success. Great video!

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Yeah I couldn't quite find the right area to use it. Like at one point I wanted to blitz and shoot and scoot but I still needed to tactical move. I need to position better, use cross here's more effectively, etc. All comes with experience! Thanks for watching.

[@Leadive393]

Great game! Love the fast paced action.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thank you very much for your comments. We will improve based on them. 🙂

[@Leadive393]

To claim an objective, you need to start your turn with a qualified team within 4". So at 35:35, you would need to wait until the next turn to claim victory.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Right thank you! I posted the video in my local group and they said the same. Got a bit confused from the mission page to “holding and objective.” Always appreciated!

[@wagonmaker5509]

that depends on the mission your playing free for all says ends there turn on an objective, so as soon as they take it. most of the missions have this rule.

[@Leadive393]

At 24:39, the Germans should lose the assault, as the gun teams cannot move into contact. So if the guns were within 6" of the assaulting infantry, they would have been captured (i.e. destroyed).

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thank you for clearing this up for us! We couldn’t figure it out and after about 10 minutes just went with something narrative. 😀 I’m glad I know for the next one

[@battlehawk1263]

Good batrep, keep up the execellent work.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! Had more errors than I originally thought but a lot of fun.

[@BStenlund]

Good Br, and nice camera work! cover of smoke is crasy strong cc for the sovijet

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! And yes it is. I like the cards he brought.

[@usekungfu]

Enjoyed the battle report! I have a question about the Half track platoon, aren't they supposed to within 6" of their platoon command team?

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! yes, the HQ transport should be within 6". We discussed this during the game and my opponent was okay to treat them separately. I later found the correct way in an FAQ I believe.

[@AlejandroRodriguez-li1gh]

If you take the command card under the cover of smoke, you put the smoke markers instead Of placing One of your pre planned artillery ranging at the beginning of the game. Read the card to see it

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

I’ll pass that on. Thanks!

[@cameronmurphy532]

I lover you battle reports especially flames of war ones

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! I really wish I could get more of them in. 2022 Goals!

[@natedavis1858]

Love the table man!

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! It’s always a work in progress.

[@MrElliptific]

Subscribed

[@hawkins1384]

Is there a reason why the models (especially tanks) are always so cramped together?

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Each model has to draw it's own line of sight. So typically the models are cramped together to maximize firepower. If a model is behind that need a gap of 1/2" to shoot through.

[@hawkins1384]

@@MiniatureGameMontage I see, thank you for clearing it out. I was just curious, because it's the exact opposite what you would do IRL.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

@@hawkins1384 Agreed! I wish they could figure out a way to make it different. Range is also important. If you want your tanks to shoot at short range and avoid the -1 to hit you need them in a line if you're close to that 16" mark. Otherwise tanks in the back will be less effective.

[@wagonmaker5509]

@@MiniatureGameMontage its 20mm 3/4", so little more then half an inch

[@valleygamingfowmesbgswl]

Great video models look fantastic. only one way to play Soviets and that's by getting stuck in. remember your units start the game in foxholes and gone to ground. keep the reports coming.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! Have our first mid-war report coming soon!

[@valleygamingfowmesbgswl]

@@MiniatureGameMontage you filming it ?

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

@@valleygamingfowmesbgswl that is the plan. Will be at our local shop so hopefully it all works out. 😀

[@valleygamingfowmesbgswl]

@@MiniatureGameMontage I will definitely keep an eye out for that one. Have fun

[@Leadive393]

at 11:26 or so, I think that the PaK 40's get a 3+ save.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! I think you’re right. I kept thinking they were all 4+ (guns).

[@PMMagro]

Lovely vehicles!

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! :)

[@DirkTheDaringDnD]

Loved the battle report my guy! How’d you paint those T-34’s?! They look beautiful

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Thanks! Those belonged to my opponent. I’ll have to ask him. They looked great!

[@DirkTheDaringDnD]

@@MiniatureGameMontage thanks mate haha. I recently got some Soviet tanks myself and have been trying to find good ways to paint em

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

@@DirkTheDaringDnD I spoke to the source. Vallejo 894 camo olive green base, black/brown gloss pin wash, drybrush of 890 reflective green (Vallejo). Mix in some #917 beige for dusting and Matt varnish.

[@christophernix8003]

All infantry and gun teams start the game in foxholes

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

Shoot! Pretty sure I know that too. Been a few months I guess. Thanks!

[@militarywargaming7840]

@@MiniatureGameMontage personally i agree with you and well presented by the way. Meeting engagements are unlikely in most battles, Recce yes, but if both sides are advancing only artillery ( which should never be this far forward and is better represented off table) and support units might be starting in pits and slits, everything else one assumes is moving...hey but it is a game and the scenario is very basic so I say do what you want and enjoy . Best wishes

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

@@militarywargaming7840 Cheers, Hengist!

[@davetye]

Only infantry can do a dig in order. Not sure about the mortars but the 88 and pak 40 are definitely not infantry.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

My rulebook says infantry and gun teams can dig in. 88s and pak 40s are gun teams.

[@davetye]

Hi. Gun teams can be in foxholes if the scenario allows at start but can't dig in during a game. Some 'guns' are infantry teams but those are mainly light mortars. Similarly gun teams can't blitz.

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

@@davetye Hi, page 46 in the small V4 rulebook (top left) says the only order gun teams may be issued is dig in and cross here. So they definitely can't blitz but can dig in to get bullet proof cover. Thanks for helping clear that up.

[@wagonmaker5509]

please if you even remotely like the dice gods stop saying "anything but a 1" great job otherwise!!!

[@MiniatureGameMontage]

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