Germany approves BMP-1 Sale to Ukraine

Germany approved the sale of BMP-1s (Pvb 501) from a Czech Company to Ukraine. These are former East German BMP-1s that were converted for the Swedish Armed Forces as such the name Pvb 501. This video details the way the BMP-1s went and also why the German government has to approve the sale of a Czech company.
Disclaimer: I was invited by the Panzermuseum Munster in 2019 and 2020.
English Channel of the Panzermuseum: / germantankmuseum
German Channel of the Panzermuseum: / daspanzermuseum
00:00 Intro
02:04 Tracing the BMP-1 - Long Way of the BMP-1s
03:11 The Swedish BMP-1 the Pbv 501
04:26 Swedish Sale Announcement
05:55 Why Germany has to approve the sale
07:52 Why not to send the Marder to Ukraine
08:51 Timeline Graphic of the BMP-1s journey & Summary
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[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

More information & corrections: According to documents from the Bundestag Germany received 1112 BMP-1 from Czechoslovakia and 24 BMP-2 from the Soviet Union. Contrary to what I said in the video all BMP-1 according to this document were produced in Czechoslovakia, whereas all BMP-2 were produced in the Soviet Union. The ministry is not "finance and climate protection" but "economics and climate protection", thank you to user Kadenbauer for pointing that out.

[@jurgbangerter1023]

Repeating Barbarossa together with UKRANIAN AZOV NAZIS.---THE GERMAN NAZIS MUST BE THRILLED....HEIL AZOV, HEIL BUNDESWEHR Are you aware that the Nazi authorities in Ukraine kill people in the Donbass, burn their own people (for example, in Odessa), kill journalists and any citizens who are against it. If not, you need more information and not this false publication Who wants to know the truth Watch the film by an American journalist Oliver Stone " Ukraine On Fire 2016 " Zelensky's Nazi regime has bombed Civilians in Donbass for 8 years killing 15'000 Innocents, what now the Fake News tell you is are all ll lies from a Ukranian goverment which has comitted war crimes for 8 years.

[@wolfi9933]

>According to documents from the Bundestag Germany received 1112 BMP-1 from the Bundeswehr and 24 BMP-2. Dont you mean NVA? Because the Bundeswehr received them from the Nationale Volksarmee.

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

@@wolfi9933 oops, sorry fixed.

[@jurgbangerter1023]

@@wolfi9933 the famous VOlksarmee which used to shoot their own in the back when they tried to cross over to the West and wasn'tr Kodename Erika a STASI, takes stupidity to put all this Fascist Ex Stasis into power

[@syjiang]

🤣 I always wondered why at the start of your videos you state you were invited to the museum. Good to know.

[@ericmyrs]

Those have got to be the most well maintained BMP-1s in existence. Passing German, Czech and Swedish QA is no mean feat.

[@Pyrochemik007]

If they are of czechoslovakian production, even the steel is of better quality, since there was a continuous streak of engineers in steelplants since austrian monarchy. Let alone the machining, which requires both experienced, educated workers, but also worker´s dedication, which was in short supply in the east. It was alwas a soviet flaw, that companies in various provinces were making quite differing results.

[@solareclipse9379]

They still outdated :( it's like if they supplied them with muskets.

[@CarlosSempereChen]

@@solareclipse9379 Ukraine's lost at least 30 BMP-1s since February, so while they're old, they're definitely in use right now.

[@bananapower1907]

@@solareclipse9379 mostly used for transportation

[@knispelwedges427]

Having a tank is always better than having none. Simple as that.

[@KokkiePiet]

The Panzermuseum in Munster is well worth a visit, but beware that Munster is not Münster, these two towns are about 200 km apart. During the time that conscription was stil a thing in Germany loads of young men who had to present themselves at the Kazerne in Munster were quite surprised that they where in the wrong city in Münster

[@christopherg2347]

It is indeed quite the issue. I still think "did he mispell Münster?" for a moment everytime I hear "Munster".

[@fulcrum2951]

Monster

[@jakeholmannf]

At least they didn't end up in Ireland!

[@omnisciency]

and make sure not to go to Ireland thinking our province of Munster has the tank museum either, think most we have there is a Cromwell or Comet (that caught fire a few years ago)

[@BobJones20001]

@@jakeholmannf As a Kiwi that is the Munster I know. From that famous victory over the All Blacks all those years ago. There has been a couple of impressive wins since by the national team. Best wishes to the Irish from NZ.

[@glebasidial]

You totally Cracked me up with that "These Are Not The BMPS We Are Looking For"with that storm trooper emblem, great sense of humor.

[@AkeN996]

This "not visualised" video is quite visualised. And I love it. 😂

[@Swellington_]

Damn, I didn't even notice 😂😆🤣

[@Josway37]

I believe the channel is using a different definition of visualised than you, Ernest, are.

[@AkeN996]

@@jeangingras4631 It's the aliens 👽🖖🏼

[@AkeN996]

@@Josway37 Yeah well... it's a joke...

[@memkiii]

I squint when watching it, so it is not too visual.

[@patrickwentz8413]

I was thinking about buying a few hundred million dollars worth of military equipment from Germany. Now that I know I can not sell them to a shady 3rd party I will not be buying them.

[@Holozon]

oh they got extra carefull when a bunch of Aussault rifles sold to the Mexican army ended up used by drug cartels, some 15 or so years ago.

[@markkringle9144]

...unless your selling them to the Palestinian Aurhority. Then it will be fine. Lol!

[@markkringle9144]

...or the French.

[@tobiaswilhelmi4819]

Don't be sad. Instead of buying from the German Armed Forces, which are restricted to law, you can buy them directly from our shady weapon producers. They produce in Italy and export over Malta or Cyprus, and off you go without stupid democratic regulations. Italy has the workplaces, Cyprus a little "fee" and Germany can claim to "can't do anything about it". Everybody happy.

[@Pyrochemik007]

They have also laws in place, which forbid weapon transports through their country, if they do not approve them. Guess who does get approved, when czech arms exporters do not? That is right, Rheinmetal. Yes, to the same destination. And czech exporters need to secure expensive complicated transports through romania instead, that means 3 countries instead of one before reaching sea port.

[@lavrentivs9891]

Some of the differences to the Pbv 501 compared to the regular BMP-1 were the removal of the autoloader and ATGM-launcher, as the first took up considerable space and the latter would have created supply issues as Sweden has her own ATGMs. They were primarily bought to increase the level of mechanisation of the swedish army and were purchased along with the MT-LB which became the Pbv 401 in swedish service. (This information is from an old newspaper article about the aquisition of the Pbv 501, that I read back in the mid 90's, so I might have gotten some details wrong) When I did my national service in the north of Sweden in 00/01, the 501 had already been found to have worse mobility in deep snow than expected and was thus used in southern regiments, but the Pbv 401 was considered a good vehicle with good mobility in the far north and used (in my company) as communication vehicles.

[@michaelguerin56]

Thank you. Always good to have user perspective. I make the occasional comment about gear we had in NZ.

[@TremereTT]

@@michaelguerin56 I Imagine NZ tanks with added mithril chain mail skirts and soldiers wearing Swanndri bush shirts where ever they go.

[@michaelguerin56]

@@TremereTT My old Engineer unit pioneered the wearing of green Swannis in the NZ Army. The blanket-counters came up with their own weird camouflage interpretation which had a full length frontal zip, double fabric layers over the shoulders with a seam on each shoulder connecting four pieces of fabric. This resulted in considerable discomfort when carrying the AN-PRC 77 radio in addition to my regular kit. The sappers in our section were 5’6” or shorter so muggins got to carry the radio. That silly design also reduced the available movement permitted by the garment and holes quickly developed in the arm pit area. We could wear our Swanndris whilst working but, the official ‘idiot blanket-counter design’ had to be taken off, in order to assemble and launch bridges, etc.. We would put it back on during smoko breaks or when going from point to point in the back of a Unimog or rover.

[@TremereTT]

@@michaelguerin56 This sounds so amazing. I love when such over the top stereotypes turn out to be true at least a little bit.

[@lucidnonsense942]

@@michaelguerin56 I love your faith that anyone outside of NZ knows what a Swanndri is.,.

[@matof1428]

For someone who grew up during the Cold War behind the Iron Curtain (including mandatory military service), it is a very strange view of the classic "Soviet" bmp with the Black Cross of the Bundeswehr.😀

[@greymauzpcgaming603]

This current coverage of both military and political actions inside Germany/EU is amazing. Please keep this kind of content coming. As a layperson in the United States who is simply trying to keep up with events there, this contextual detail without political bias, and pure analytic detail is very valuable. Thank you!

[@TremereTT]

As German Im totally appalled that we have a similar law as ITAR in place. it totally goes against my understanding of ownership

[@youtubeoppressivecensorshi8047]

It’s sad that United state won’t give heavy weapons

[@midi5581]

@@youtubeoppressivecensorshi8047 Shipping time and training time matter

[@willrobinson9767]

@@youtubeoppressivecensorshi8047 They don't have any..... None to give...

[@nutzeeer]

@@willrobinson9767 no old patton tanks? (Ignoring spare parts and training) Yea i guess you have no russian vehicles ha

[@Philtopy]

I have been in Munster tank museum last Saturday and our guide, an old small guy and veteran in the museum, said „I wouldn’t even gift those to my grandmother.“ He pointed out several things: 1. the vehicles are supposedly in bad condition as of now and need maintenance 2. the BMP-1 is badly armoured for its size 3. the gun sits very low in the chassis, meaning it cannot shoot over friendly infantry, thus it cannot cover advances or retreats very well. They have more modern 200mm now, but same height. 4. the visibility and crew comfort is very bad He pointed out that these vehicles were built in a time where the Soviet Union had great pushes and offensives in mind with thousands of armoured vehicles involved. The main protection for the BMP-1 was its speed and numbers. But on a modern battlefield Their survivability is difficult to rate as „good“. He suspected they can mostly be used for supply runs and as a 2nd line transport. But using them in direct combat would be suicidal. I would really like to hear your thoughts on this subject!

[@andreasarnoalthofsobottka2928]

Given the weight of todays personal protection gear, weapons, ammunition and other equipment, it would need months of training for a strong young man to walk some distance let alone to run a few meters. So any vehicle built to military specifications with cross country capabilities and light armour protection is useful to transport and supply the volunteers, reservists and veterans close to the combat area. (or in case of retreat get them out and Back)

[@MilitaryAviationHistory]

03:42 - yeah, I wouldn't have been able to pronounce that either 🥳

[@BenjaminWeimer]

According to the Swedish armour historical society four of the five BMP-1 for evaluation and testing were named, Patton, Monty, Rommel and Guderian.

[@Holozon]

the 5th will be called Selensky.

[@petter5721]

True, I was involved in this work 😀

[@danielhalachev4714]

Who was the 5th one? Zhukov?

[@BenjaminWeimer]

@@danielhalachev4714 Well one was tested to destruction. I presume that one went nameless.

[@danielhalachev4714]

@@BenjaminWeimer Poor guy 😀

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

The initial disclaimer, the one at the very beginning, regarding the museum footage, etc, put me in stitches... as if someone would think you went to witness some new German mobilization. Oh and the video was awesome. Your explaining skills shone like never before this time. All this process couldn't have been any more German really. I was learning and laughing at the same time, thank you so very much for the amazing work, mixing seriousness with the properly controlled amount of irony is no easy deal! Have a great day m'friend!

[@anders_karlsson]

The Czech government owned company VOP-026 (the company that also refurbished them) bought 335 Pbv 501 (with the Czech government taking over the end user German agreement) with the understanding that it was to modernize the Czech own bmp-1 fleet. It was afterwards revealed that the actual buyer was the private company Excalibur, with the Czech government just as a middleman, Excalibur sold 250 of them to Iraq. Apparently this was planed all along with the approval of both German and Czech governments to get around the Swedish variant of end user export laws that on paper have more restrictions of approved end users. What is being sold now is apparently 56 of the remaining Pbv501s The modifications where: removing the sagger mounts and loader hatch, the autoloader was removed for safety reasons and the side skirts where replaced with new ones made of rubber. (Note I took this from the Swedish Wikipedia article but it sounds about right from what I remember from what was in the news at the time.)

[@TADAMAT-CZ]

Those BMP-1s were actually upgraded by the exact same company (VOP-026) whi bought them later and wan'ts to sell them to Sweden

[@Pyrochemik007]

I will add our latest czech news. Soon after the war started in Ukraine, the company offered to sell these while cutting off their profit from price. They will shift the delivery of BVPs into Iraq to later date. (that is a czech call sign, it means battle vehicle for infantry). They were just waiting for someone to pay for their investment. If they do not lie, it shows how heavily is czech society supporting ukraine, because it means giving up huge profit. This company is quite large however, and they can buy BMPs from any former warsaw pact country to repair and resell.

[@demonprinces17]

Sounds like someone doing an end run around the law

[@jkotekvolnycz]

@@Pyrochemik007 and also the VOP-026 was already trying sell those BMPs to the Ukraine but did not get the Germany approval in 2020.

[@cooks37]

VOP is not government owned. It is a subsidiary of a company called Excalibur Army.

[@solkaz4175]

Inspected by Germans, Swedish, upgraded by Czechs, transported back and forth between 3 countries and with EU regulations, these BMP's must be expensive.

[@miroslavdockal9468]

They was, because Euro control safety politics. But it bring job to 100 of mechanics, and 500 of " büro Mauses"......

[@joemammon6149]

& it will be quickly destroyed in the Ukrainian conflict. it got sold to free up some space in the warehouse.

[@TheKitMurkit]

@@joemammon6149 yeah, Germany sends a lot of old equipment to Ukraine, like those Soviet anti air launchers, that had a lot of expired rockets. But Ukrainians are thankful, because they need everything.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@TheKitMurkit it's also better to send equipment and vehicles the Ukranian officers already know intimately enough to operate in their sleep, one-shot weapons and weapons that they already have ammo production lines for than new or even surplus western vehicles and multiple use weapons with a completely different design and use philosophy and thus different layout and in different calibers.

[@mennymoto]

Don't worry, EU won't run out of taxpayers' money soon.

[@simonnance]

People always underestimate, or ignore, the logistical and training issues with giving Ukraine *insert western weapons system here*.

[@TheEulerID]

Some western weapons, like NLAW, Javelin, StarStreak and Stingers are relatively easy to integrate. Tanks, aircraft, complex radar and missile systems are a whole different game as they need major maintenance and support infrastructure along with very extensive training. It's no surprise that it's the former I list which are proving to be the successes in this enterprise. As far as the BMP-1s are concerned, I suspect they will be replacing losses and primarily used as armoured troops and supply taxis, not as offensive weapons. What the war seems to have proved so far is that these things are highly vulnerable if used as assault weapons.

[@GoMrTom]

When I was in the german army I was trained with the german Panzerfaust 3. The training lasts one day. No big issue and no excuse for not sending a lot of them so that the Ukraine soldiers can destroy russian tanks.

[@simonnance]

@@TheEulerID for sure. 1 shot disposable weapons (NLAW) are an easy win. Even something like a Javelin comes with a logistical train though, reloads, batteries, maintenance. A simple one to be sure, and the maintenance is fairly easily bypassed by just getting a new set. For something like a tank or airplane the logistics gets pretty crazy pretty fast. The Russians have been doing am excellent job of demonstrating the effectiveness of tanks without proper logistical support, and 90-95% of any airforce's manpower is pure logistical support for the airplanes. Western, high tech, hardware tends to be particularly intensive in maintenance and parts. I'd expect some BMP1s to be replacements, but I also think the UA is working on standing up reserve formations for deployment, and some of these will go into "new" units. Foot infantry with machine guns, MANPADs and ATGMs are great for defense, but you need the mechanisation for counter-attack and and offensive maneuvers. The active supply of IFVs suggests that Ukraine is preparing for more of the latter.

[@simonnance]

@@GoMrTom definitely, I'm 100% for sending as many easily deployable, disposable/semi-disposable and simple weapon systems as the UA needs. You can fill a truck with a *lot* of NLAWs or PzF 3's, and it's not a big loss if the PzF 3 launcher needs to be thrown away after a while instead of repairing it. A Patriot system on the other hand......

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

I also should point out. This is a war between Ukraine and Russia. If we send in German or French or British or American equipment, suddenly it's a NATO conflict. The ancient enemy is out to destroy Russia just as the Soviets said! We aren't losing to Ukraine we are losing to NATO! Quick. Declare full war, deploy all troops, and start using tactical nukes!

[@meanmanturbo]

Man, as a German speaker you must just love getting into these Swedish military compound words. Must feel right at home. Am Swedish speaker, and to an extent German speaker

[@TremereTT]

Swedish compound words work just as Germans. Many Swedish words are also easy to understand as they are often similar to old or uncommon or related German words. like the same word means Tank in Swedish and Chariot in German.

[@meanmanturbo]

@@TremereTT Yes, thats the point

[@dieterdodel835]

Tschörmany

[@meanmanturbo]

@@dieterdodel835 Tyskland in the language of glory and heroes.

[@jh5kl]

everyone knows that germans and swedish have these words just to see foreigners struggle with them, we know ok?

[@jinto74]

Germany: We switched BMP-1 with Leopard 2. April fools! Ukraine: Haha! You got me! Russia: bruh...

[@androidkhh]

One of the best videos you ever made. So helpful and necessary. 😀

[@michaelguerin56]

Good video. I just realised (and probably should have done so earlier) that military forces retain official ownership of museum vehicles, etc.; to minimise bureaucratic overload of the staff officers and civilian staff who handle end user issues. Thank you Bernhard, for the explication and explanation of your typed and spoken disclaimers. I had briefly wondered about them, every time you did a museum video BUT was naturally more focused on the primary subject matter of each video.

[@SilesianusMaximus]

For interested: the Czech company is called Excalibur Army.

[@Pyrochemik007]

Hey russian bots, Ukraine is armed with Excalibur, game over.

[@TrangleC]

If I remember correctly, the modifications were all minor stuff, like air conditioning and stuff required to make them legal on German roads, like proper rear lights and indicators.

[@jesper509]

Seat belt, don't forget the seat belts.

[@falanglao01]

Post-2020 the modification would have included conversion to electric engine + a trailer for a 5-ton battery 😅😅

[@DottorHealer]

Changes were minor yes, mostly to conform to NATO standards but also useful ones like the removal of asbestos components so your crew doesn't get cancer, improvement to the fire detection&suppression system and better heating system

[@TheWorldEnd2]

All ponts valid except electric engines are much lighter and smaller than combustion engines, the space left over by the oversized combustion engine and fuel tanks could be used for storing batteries.

[@altergreenhorn]

Hope that Germany will leave black crosses on the BMP it would be nice if Germany just ad a wolfsangel on it because Ukrainian Aidar, Azov, Pravy sektor.. like it very much

[@mindbomb9341]

Love your videos!!! :) Your English is always improving. It's very impressive. What I am about to say comes from my old days as an English teacher. Now, I recommend you try to relearn the pronunciation of the word, "vehicle". It's VEE-hik-al. Not vee-HIK-el. :) AGAIN!!!! LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!! AND YOUR ENGLISH IS GREAT!!!!! Just helping you polish it up a bit since this word comes up in almost all of your videos. I think you have already corrected the word "morale".

[@brealistic3542]

Very good video as always. Very detailed. Great info.

[@raskolnikov9067]

I took some photos of the Pbv 501 in 2009 at a now closed down armour museum. They were absolutley spotless on the inside. Restored for a large amount of kronor and then just never used. I thought they all were scrapped, but good to know that they will come to use after all. I am not sure if i can post links on YT otherwise i would. Ps. Did you not dare to try to pronounce Stridsledningspansarbandvagn? ;)

[@lavrentivs9891]

I thought they had all been sold back to the same czech company that restored them, I think I even read somewhere about suspected economic crimes with the vehicles being sold and repurchased in an elaborate scam.

[@Holozon]

as german speaker, we can read and understand, and with some weird accent, even speak swedish written language just fine. Nearly every world is similar, and often its guessable from context. strid- streit Ledning- leading- pansar- gepanzert- bandvagn - Bandwagen (vehicle on bands or chains). so it is a battle-leading armored chain vehicle to me with absolutely no knowledge of swedish.

[@TheGrace020]

@@Holozon Quite right ! :DD

[@tavish4699]

You can send links no problem

[@drox3992]

if I was a non-Swedish speaker I would be hella scared of even attempting to pronuce it. But I am not so it's is pretty easy, just a little mouthful.

[@jonnekallu1627]

For the record the artillery that Estonia sold to Ukraine was initially bought from Germany by Finland which later sold them to Estonia. So Estonia needed the permission of Germany AND Finland to sell the weapons to Ukraine.

[@juhanuus]

Estonians did not sell those howitzers... we gave them for free

[@jonnekallu1627]

@@juhanuus "we gave them for free" You did? Well that's some bang for the buck for sure!

[@tavish4699]

@@juhanuus doesnt matter It still falls under the endnutzung So germany must have aproved

[@smokejaguarsix7757]

@@tavish4699 Absolutely ridiculous bureaucracy.

[@tavish4699]

@@smokejaguarsix7757 yea i have to agree but that s how we germans are

[@matthewwadwell6100]

Thanks for the video explaining the background - talk about complex!

[@gerardoramoncesarreynaldo9469]

Excellent report with meticulous details.

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

I remember when you went to this event. It's surreal to me that these vehicles will be used in a major war in Europe ... taking place in 2022. We live in interesting times. The Marders are really cool. The Germans saw the weaknesses of the BMP and the BTR platforms, and the engineers did a great job marrying the best of both worlds. The BMP-1's gun is so... gross. 1 man to do the job of 2 or even 3. It reminds me of those WW2 French tanks that were operated similarly. But yeah, the gun of the BMP-1 is a headscratcher.

[@Seth9809]

In war games it's really powerful because people forget to account for the low rate of fire and poor visibility.

[@markkringle9144]

Seems like you could retrofit the gun with a 25mm automation. My sense is that would simply the operation for the turret gunner.

[@robertkalinic335]

Dont you dare shitting on that gun it can take out contemporary tanks, it has flaws but concept is nice.

[@markkringle9144]

@@robertkalinic335 I've heard reports that it's not very accurate at distance. It would be effective against APCs but the small turret makes the gunner have to load it, so reducing the rate of fire.

[@828enigma6]

I was wondering about a refit with the 30 or 40mm chain gun. That would be exciting if it could be made to fit.

[@idiotsavant7276]

Russia - “we’re fighting Nazis “ Ukrainian- “go buy all the German shit you can get your hands on and give them that wet dream”

[@chemtrailpilotxy5415]

Most underrated comment.

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

I am buying Soviet tech to fight your army Russia I dare you to try to stop me. Remember what we recovered with all our tractors? Yeah. Half your tanks

[@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq]

Theres alot of poltical reasons why the Ukriane couldn't do it and why it couldn't happen practically, but would it be interesting if Ukriane started blasting the soviet Anthem and Stalingarde quotes just before they start unrolling all the tanks?

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq despite swiping a lot of Soviet tanks. They won't help much against Russia. Russia has more tanks and they have ATGMs too. So the armor they steal is simply an enhanced cost against the Russians, a tank lost to a bog can be recovered. If the local farmer does it, you've removed it permanently from Russian hands, because it can be slotted Into a defensive line and force the Russians to blow it up as a credible threat, regardless of if it was controlled by a crew or a remote control. Speaking of which. Why don't tanks have a remote control on the back to act as ATGM bait?

[@KioneWinterHowl]

@@glenmcgillivray4707 Cause that'd be a big expensive one time use bait. Can't use anything too old cause it'd be weird to see modern Russia rolling out the T-54s for some odd reason, and can't use anything too new cause it'd cost too much.

[@taoteng]

Cooles Video, toll recherchiert. Thumbs up !

[@bstange]

Thank you for your amazing overwview.

[@BraceletGrolf]

Not visualized ???????? I see some visualizations here :D

[@isaacdressel4267]

Shocked and appalled by the amount of visualization

[@54032Zepol]

You see nothing!!! Only air!!!!

[@Iceaxehikes]

Germans; "So you want us to drive military vehicles through Poland?" Nato; "Yes".

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Polish: Just remember to stick to the designated corridor this time...

[@bkane573]

I strongly suspect, based on experience with the polish people/military, that not a single German soldier would be allowed to accompany those vehicles.

[@heinrichschmitt5252]

Awesome content as always.

[@Taeschno_Flo]

Thanks for the info. Ill use it once i finished studying History.

[@josephsolomon5873]

Well the Russians are leaving all sorts of spares and parts around....

[@riverman83]

As a swed I remember the Pvb501s being bought from Germany. The plan was to Mechanize all the northen forces with BMP-1s and MT-LBs. However even before they had been deliverd the Swedish government decided to cut the army with 90%, so all the vehicles became unessesary. What a waste of money and good vehicles. Happy that Ukraine can use them against Russia though.

[@Strategy_Analysis]

Excellent explanation. Thank you.

[@jcobb7762]

Great material, thank you

[@meanmanturbo]

I am pretty familliar with the Swedish part of this story. Could go on a long rant about early 2000s defence decisions, but thats besids the point. I belive the Czech company that bought them where the same company that did the renovation in the first place. And the renovations costing more then the purchase price for the Swedes. The most major changes for the PBV 501 was the removal of the autoloader and the rack for the ATGM.

[@johanmetreus1268]

AND the removal of the asbestos-liner! About the purchase price, in fairness, Germany was almost paying to get rid of the materiel then.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

@@johanmetreus1268 Removal of Asbestos is code for “removal of venomous snakes”. It’s to avoid panic. You would probably be fine getting into a vehicle after being told they removed 99% of the asbestos, but how would you feel if they told you they removed 99% of the venomous snakes? You’d probably want to know how many snakes were there in the first place.

[@MrRschwab]

Which Czech company built the East German BMP-1 order? Czech quality surpassed USSR built units. I recall stories about all new USSR built vehicles having their engines and all power trains removed in Czech factories. They were stripped down and totally re manufactured, including heat treating all critical components. Assembled with correct tolerances seals, the were installed in a 100% inspected and certificated hulls. The USSR thought a job well done was 50 hours before major engine failure! The reworked machines averaged 500 hours plus.

[@Holozon]

thats russian technology vs european technology. most of them were probably built by skoda factories.

[@cooks37]

@@Holozon Facepalm. Did you come from the 19th century? Škoda has not been making weapons for 80 years.

[@letecmig]

BMP-1s were built in Czechoslovakia, in Slovakia in the 1980s.... not Czech part of the federation. Upgrades done in Czechia

[@trickiejohn]

Prior to the first Gulf War, I was serving in Munster with 32 Armoured Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers. We had “loaned” one of our Centurion tanks to the museum. The RQMS Tech, was responsible for checking the CES (list of loose parts and equipment required on the vehicle for deployment). We left that tank in the museum when we deployed to Saudi Arabia. I left the Regiment shortly after returning from the Gulf. For all I know the tank may still be in the museum.

[@ForOurGood]

Extremly good article. Thank you.

[@clausbohm9807]

8:20 Love the NATO icon symbol on the tank (front and back markings) with its place in the organization ... like a counter on a wargame map. Very easy to understand what it is and where it belongs. Looks like 2nd battalion (2) of the 82nd (82) mechanised brigade (X)

[@ausaskar]

lol I'd imagine you'd have to cover it up if you actually started fighting.

[@marcofrank2082]

It means second company of the 82 Panzergrenadierbataillon. As I read it. Edit: This means it was part of 8th Armoured Brigade which was Part of 3rd Armoured Division.

[@paulh2468]

Respectfully pointing out a minor English error in this video. At the 2:33 minute mark, the closed caption showed the words "info plague". I heard you pronounce this as plague. A plague is a word for disease pandemic, such as The Black Death plague of 1350 CE. "The Plague" refers to bubonic plague, caused by Yersinia pestis. Covid-19 can be informally referred to as a plague. A plague of locusts is anther example. The correct word is "plaque" (pronounced plack), an inscribed tablet attached to a wall or other structure. The only difference is the 'g' versus the 'q' in the two words. Other than this, your English is perfect.

[@nattygsbord]

So how many deaths in Ukrainian war zone has been related to Covid-19?

[@nbenicewicz]

Hey off topic from this video but, I've got a question. Does anyone know if Ukraine ever actually took into service any of those BMPT-64s (converted T-64 tanks into IFVs/APCs)?

[@samdumaquis2033]

Great work

[@grizwoldphantasia5005]

Uber-complicated, yes. Since there's still 90 minutes left on this April 1st, I am obligated to say something foolish: At least it's not Lyft-complicated. Then I wonder, do Uber and Lyft operate in Austria and/or Germany under those same names? I sure hope so; Uber must have generated some good Germanic jokes. I often wondered what kind of jokes were spoken of by Uber employees in the US, too. But aside from all that, thanks for the de-complication.

[@piotrd.4850]

Robin Williams explained German comedy and humour kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaKUqpKPi6xsb9U

[@GrandTheftChris]

The best Uber joke in Germany was that it got banned.

[@Holozon]

i think uber is not allowed to operate in germany, for professional small personell transport u need a taxi-schein and a Ortskundeprüfung, (yes there is a government authority, that tests your driving skill and your knowledge of the city. you have to know and find every street in a city in the shortest distance and time in a real life test , and only after this you get a licence to provide as taxi in this city, and this tests are pretty strict, you have to know every single street and corner of your city by heart to have a chance of passing) which basically destroys ubers concept.

[@kleinweichkleinweich]

the word was "Über-complicated", which translates to real German as "normal"

[@JakobFischer60]

So that war is fought on both sides with weapons from the last century? And many of them are already in the Panzer museum? That fits to the impression that also the mindset to start that war is from the the century of WW2.

[@imsid7851]

Not really, the West are supplying arms that are current technology. Add to that, Russian military vehicles have advanced well past WW2 equipment. The problem is not equipment based, it is political and economic. Ukraine is being used by the West, we will happily fight until the last Ukrainian but not actually do anything. It's how we do business.

[@Pyrochemik007]

@@imsid7851 Not business. They get guns for free or so cheap it is like robbery.

[@alexlo7708]

Does it come from museum? Are there any other antiques you can sell? Is it genuine or replica?

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

The "h" in "vehicle" is sort of silent. So it sounds like veeya cull. It sort of rolls off the tongue nicer.. heh. Cheers for the insight old chap. Great work as ever.

[@the_Kutonarch]

Looks like both Germany and Big Tech have the same mentality when it comes to End User "agreements". I wonder if Germany denies 'right to repair' too?

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Nope, they even licence manufacturing and modification rights to end users that pass the export criteria. Case in point: Strv122B

[@Dawn_Raider]

I was surprised Germany still have what appears to be a huge stockpile of former East German equipment, where do they hide these?

[@weltbunte1134]

We have huge depots for those old GDR stuff, ... please dont ask where. ;-)

[@bkane573]

Same place they hit everything before WWII.

[@jamesduda6017]

Great video

[@kondorviktor]

Hervorragendes Video.

[@sral8769]

this is not a heavy weapon but an obsolete infantry fighting vehicle

[@demonprinces17]

What they fighting against laser tanks

[@MrCemicalX]

There was also the german company Krauss-Maffei Wegman that offered to send their Gepard SPAAG (I think around 50) to ukriane as they were faced out of the german Luftwaffe a decade ago. Haven't read any news regarding this anymore but it seems to be more so something that has been denied or postboned as these systems work differently compared to sovjet style SPAAGs (Guess the Sheilka is the equivalent here) as well. There's enough arcitcles about it if anyone wants to google them. Romania still operates them as well from what I read. So maybe train personal on the border and let romanian personal provide maintenance equipment as they still operate and regulary buy spare parts as well? Considering how russian aviation flies low to avoide radar they might prove useful.

[@stevekillgore9272]

Gebhardts are far better than Shilkas IMHO

[@merzto]

If anything happens with those it won't be disclosed. It would probably true extensive training here in Germany, too.

[@MrCemicalX]

So just as an update I read today in german media that the Gepard SPAAG's got approved to be delievered by the german arms industry. Their are also offers on the table for 88 leopard 1A5's, 100 Marder IFV's and Phz2000 armored howitzers as well as training, ammo and spare parts. Interesting to note is that germany has also agreed to train ukrainian personnal on german lands now as the US do. Probably on NATO training facilities. This is especially interesting because the Gepards that will be delievered, are build on the Leopard 1's chassie, as well as the Phz2000's, which should help with logistics. So maybe there's already a shift happening were western heavy equipement is being trained on, here in germany in the coming days, to plan for mid to long term procurement for this systems to be used by ukraines military. It should be noted though that only the Gepards have been cleared so far and the first patch of Leopard 1A5's would arrive within 3 weeks at the earliest. Dunno about the Phz2000 but they should be faster as they are in use and demand with other NATO countrys. The Netherlands announced to deliever some of their while the german millitary will provide ammunition and training.

[@matikramer9648]

Thank you

[@richhagenchicago]

Get the Ukrainians trained upon how to operate and maintain these vehicles with there modifications, get supply chain for parts in place, and get these into Ukraine. Do it quickly. It is in German, Czech, and Swedish interests to get this done.

[@ricardokowalski1579]

Czech republic is also NATO. From the Russian point of view jumping thru all these hoops doesn't change that. My guess is that these will be left in rear positions and new(er) equipment would be freed for the frontline. There must be a very long string attached to this items.

[@TheNobleFive]

That's what I think too. NATO is NATO. And they're already coordinating to send arms even if it's formally through the EU or whoever.

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

The Stridsledningspansarbandvagn 5011 You say?

[@kebman]

I reacted to the bv designation too xD In Norway we call our small tracked vehickes bv. bv stands for either beltevogn (literally belt wagon), while bv stands for bandvagn in Swedish (literally band wagon). Rumor says that's why Sweden got bands like ABBA.

[@johanmetreus1268]

I'd translate vagn"" as "carriage", but yes.

[@pleitevogel]

Danke für die Erklärung!

[@Nodwick123]

Do this mean the russian/ex-soviet BMP-1/2 there is in current service in russian army is still loaded whit asbestos?

[@swedmiroswedmiro1352]

Theres a good chance yes. However asbestos exposure would mainly happen if the vehicle was knocked out by explosives...and then the asbesros problem would probably not be in the top of my worries.

[@josephmagana6235]

Riding around a modern battlefield in (or on top of) a BMP-1, asbestos is way down on your list of worries.

[@mandalorion]

What happened to the East German T-72's?

[@mandalorion]

@Dave Shame.

[@Rauschgenerator]

@@mandalorion In this case, not quite; I find it very plausible as the Sowjet tanks are built to a completely different doctrine and would be quite useless for any NATO country in the cold war; the west built very sophisticated high-tech-tanks (Leopard, Abrams, Chieftain, Challenger) because they couldn't build such high numbers of them, while the Sowjet Union tried to produce as much tanks as it possibly could to have the superiority on the battlefield. No T-72, T-80 or T-90 is any match to a Leopard or an Abrams and they would have been used very differently on the battlefield. So these Sowjet tanks didn't fit to the tactics of the NATO and there was no other use to them - so they had been sold or scrapped. The Mig-29 suffered from a similar problem (the west needs multi-purpose jets with a high range to be flexible while the Mig-29 is a dedicated short-range-air superiority fighter) and the main reason why it was kept for a rather long time was, the the NATO could gain some experience with possible enemy fighters in training.

[@meegomae]

Finland :97 from ex-East Germany in 1992 (of these 66 were made in Czechoslovakia, and 33 were made in Poland). 162 units total.

[@johanmetreus1268]

Least two ended up in Sweden for trials, covering everything from terrain capabilities, weapon effect on Swedish materiel (where a poor strv 103 got penetrated front to back by the long rod penetrator, it fared bit bitter against HEAT) and of course its own protection levels.

[@thomasmusso1147]

Interesting and informative .. thank you. A short version. Why? 'It's complicated'. 😏.

[@Joe3pops]

Is not rocket science. Resale of thus equipment is spelled out on the fine print End User Certificate. No matter whom.holds it presently.

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

3:31 "Why did it take so long?" They brought in engineers from SAAB so they could upgrade it to be twice as expensive?

[@johanmetreus1268]

:-p

[@stephenle-surf9893]

And ten times more efficient knowing saab.

[@aurathedraak7909]

When he said Uber complicated : no pun intended.

[@12v71detroit]

from what I have seen in Ukraine are tanks relavent with all the antitank weapons being used?

[@Kadenbauer]

Quick annotation: export control is not regulated by the ministery of finance and climate protection. There is no such ministery. It is the ministery of economy and climate protection (German: Bundesministerium für Wirtschaft) since the agency overseeing export control and end use certification, BAFA (Bundesamt für Wirtschaft und Ausfuhrkontrolle/Federal Agency for economy and export control) falls under the jurisdiction of the ministery of economy. The ministery of finance is something totally different. They are the guys imposing taxes and trying to find the 100bn Euros for the Bundeswehr :D

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

thanks added in the pinned comment, btw. don't edit your comment anymore, else the "love" will go away.

[@cavscout888]

Even with your admission of your underhanded dealings with the Munster museum, I just can't feel safe any more. Lol. Never even knew Germany had BMP's.

[@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized]

lol

[@ronaldderooij1774]

Yes, I remember that clause. The Netherlands wanted to sell the Leopard 2 it had to soms African country. Nope, said the German government. The Dutch government was not amused at all. I wonder if this breach of sovereignty could be circumvented if future contracts for purchases of German military equipment would me written and signed in the Netherlands under Dutch law.

[@bullpup1337]

it is not a „breach of sovereignty“ but a very common practice. And since EU law applies and needs to be obeyed by the Netherlands, there is no way to get around it. If they dont like that, they dont have to buy. But a contract is a contract.

[@Axterix13]

Plus even if the contract is signed under Dutch law, it wouldn't matter. The contract involves a German company, and therefore, they'd have to put that clause into the contract. Plus I'm pretty sure that the German government would have to approve first time arms sales of certain types, just like they have to approve the resales. And if said contract didn't have that clause, the government wouldn't (and couldn't) approve it.

[@danieltsiprun8080]

If you have the time to explain. Why does Austrian law requires you to state when and where you footage was taken?

[@demonprinces17]

Guessing copyright

[@edward9674]

Have you ever been to the arsenalen museum in sweden? They have a swedish BMP-1 there among other interesting vehicles.

[@obj.071]

i understand why they do it but... damn, germans do love their bureaucracy! jezuz.

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

The EULA's on their computers must be the stuff of nightmares.

[@kazumager4272]

@@ThatSlowTypingGuy Since we mostly use american operating systems like windows... you get the idea... but they still are a nightmare :D

[@PalleRasmussen]

They suck as IFVs, but they will work well for carrying ammo and other supplies to the front in difficult terrain.

[@AkeN996]

They might also help for some troop transportation behind the front, maybe?

[@noobster4779]

They dont suck as IFVs, what is your basemeant for judging that? I can give you an equal ammount of times US military equipmeant was made to look like useless scrap metal, jsut lok at Iraq or Afghanistan. If you are refering to the russians right now its primarily because they dont use their weapon systems the way they were designed for. Soviet vehicles, in contrast to nato ones, were not all rounder designs but very specially designed for the soviet military doctrine of massive tank battles with heavy loses. That why they are cheap and just good enough, they arent expected to survive long. And I assure you having a BMP is still better then not havong a BMP.

[@piotrd.4850]

@@noobster4779 because BMP-1 has weaponary that is next to useless, design that prohobits infantry to carry anything in way of modern equipment and is VERY thin skinned vehicle.

[@gigiduru125]

@@piotrd.4850 Better than walking

[@altergreenhorn]

Hope that Germany will leave black crosses on the BMP it would be nice if Germany just ad a wolfsangel on it because Ukrainian Aidar, Azov, Pravy sektor.. like it very much...everything will be just like in old good times

[@borkwoof696]

One of your sources is an info plaque?

[@kathleenmcmanus8509]

Very interesting

[@hoodoo2001]

When will they get to Ukraine? Asking for a friend... :-) Anything from Germany is pretty much "I will believe it when I see it."

[@Rauschgenerator]

True 😕 Sincerely, a German

[@SCH292]

Only about half will make it to Ukraine. 🤣

[@GoMrTom]

It will take weeks to repair them. Sadly.

[@imrekalman9044]

A few hours before a Russian Iskander strike gets rid of them.

[@MrNajibrazak]

how old are these equipment? 50 years old? EU should just donate all their old weaponary to Ukraine otherwise it just look like they are taking advantage of Ukraine in its most desperate hours.

[@Orcawhale1]

They are about 60 years old, but better than nothing. And some EU countries are infacting dumping all of their old weapons to Ukraine. Which is fine, because old weapons can still be usefull.

[@SteamCrane]

Only vehicles and other complex equipment that the Ukrainians are already trained on. Javelins etc are easy to learn.

[@scottchamberlain3938]

I deal with "Endverbleibskontrolle" or as it's commonly referred to in English EUC, it's a constant pain getting them from prospective clients.

[@loganhall3477]

"Austrian law requires I disclose that" Definitely thought MHV was German this whole time. (Caveats not necessary about Austrian and German similarities)

[@jasoncp3257]

Ive never met a German, always Austrians... we sure if Germany is even real?

[@tokul76]

German probably would not have problems pronouncing Stridsledningspansarbandvagn :)

[@miroslavdockal9468]

These Bmp's are sending to Ukraine for whole week now from Czech Republic, no one officialy talk about it, but this operation isnt truly stealth one. Towing IFV's on trucks through highways pays attention at its own. Who care, when it helps to deescalate that years old conflict of interests....

[@ericb.4358]

Do these Swede-modifiedBMP-1 IFVs use NATO ammunition or Russian ammunition? Very important for logistics and ammo procurement.

[@thomass1396]

i heard the pbv501 came in package deal with pbv401/ mtlb, and the pbv501 was not good enough for the swedish terrain, and never used.

[@828enigma6]

Makes sense. Ukraine army is familiar the layout and operation of BMP vehicles. Good on the Germans for authorizing the sales.

[@benh745]

I'm surprised that the Germans even kept all that old stuff. Just like the batch of Strela's they recently relocated to Ukraine. I wonder what more Cold War era stuff they have in storage.

[@finnkraus5824]

They still have Gdr anti tank missles in stock as far as im aware

[@billrhodes5603]

I bet there are still a bunch of warehouses in the old GDR that has MP-40's, K98's and Panxerfausts.

[@Ample17]

@@billrhodes5603 Panzerfaust*

[@billrhodes5603]

@@Ample17 Yeah, fat fingered that one.

[@danielschwarze6216]

That question was asked in parliament, the short of it: no one really knows

[@juslitor]

so same deal as with the artillery estonia sent to ukraine, old ddr stock bought by finland, couldnt be sent until germany approved of transfer

[@xendk]

very nice

[@Bialy_1]

"Germany approves BMP-1 Sale to Ukraine" translation to normal people English: Germany the 3rd biggest producer of weapons in the world stopped blocking Czech Republic in its idea to sell some dated BMP-1 to Ukraine...

[@maxz9787]

Honestly i think laws that controls where weapons end up are good. We didnt equip the talibans multiple times with weapons COUGH America

[@jamesnoneofyourbusiness8808]

Just give 'em some Leo 2's. Russki nazi tanks have armour made of cheese sitting on top of some very exploding munitions. Stay cheeki breeki 🔥🔥🔥

[@fodz9246]

Hey buddy could you do a video on the bushmasters? I'd appreciate your view on it. Cheers. (New sub here btw great channel)

[@fightingfalcon1986]

Quite interesting. And, what about the former Nationalen Volksarmee BMP-2? Are still in Bundeswehr stocks, were sold to other countries or were kept in strategic reserve storage? Ich werde für das Video darüber bereitstehen. Vielen Dank für diese außergewöhnliche Arbeit und Grüße aus Santiago, Chile.

[@ausaskar]

There was only 24 NVA BMP-2s (the NVA was going down the BMP-1P upgrade path for modernization), so not really a relevant number for military use. Most probably went to museums like the one we see in the video.

[@the7observer]

So ex-USSR BMPs now being used against Russia... Oh the irony Fun fact: If the gun is the same, 73mm 2A28 Grom, it can fire SPG-9 recoiless rifle rounds (with less propellent) which have HEAT round of around 400mm of pen against normal armour and there is a tamdem that has 400mm of pen against ERA. The autoloader from the soviet era wasn't the best having the risk of jamming or injuring the gunner, so sometimes it was just removed

[@dnocturn84]

Ukraine once was part of the USSR as well. Their equipment already consists of former ex-USSR equipment for the most part, of course. And the Ukrainians already operate much larger quantities of BMP-1s in their army.

[@rumrain838]

Its not really because all those countries used to be part of the Russian empire/ USSR

[@demonprinces17]

Think similar but not interchangeable

[@Lykyk]

Exactly 10 minutes long. Efficient.

[@sweracoon7931]

I read these news today at work, and was seriously trying to rack my brain over why Germany were supposedly selling Swedish vehicles via a Czech company. Proper headscratcher this, thanks for clearing it up. As an aside, I had an officer tell me about his experience with the Pbv501. He was not impressed, and quite puzzled by how non-uniform the vehicles were. Granted, this was after the Strf90 (CV90) had entered service, and I assume that is a better IFV than the BMP-1.

[@johanmetreus1268]

Much better, which is to be expected of a construction 40 years younger. The main purpose of the Pbv 501 was to replace Terrängbil 30/40 and Bandvagn 206 as troop transports in order to least have shrapnel protection during marches, not to gain some kind of IFV-capability.

[@JohnDoe-in2gk]

why do you have to state the footage is old? i don't understand

[@h.a.9880]

It's kinda funny that weapons made in the Soviet Union are being used by Ukraine to kick the ass of an Army that's trying to re-establish Russia as Soviet Union 2.0 And wouldn't you know it, all these old vehicles and weapons used by Ukraine are well-kept and effective, while the Russians have constant issues with tyres breaking or tanks being abondoned due to engines breaking for lack of maintenance.

[@h.a.9880]

@@simplicius11 How so?

[@h.a.9880]

@@simplicius11 I'd like them to be more specific befroe I bother "marking" them tbh. Especially since it seems like you expect Russia to somehow turn this catastrophic blunder of a war somehow into anything but a costly failure. There was this guy with a funny moustache, he hid in a hole in Berlin and talked about turning the tide of war within a few weeks, too. He relied on old men with crude rifles, ineffective and expensive wonderweapons and the attack of the Steiner Battalion that didn't even exist. Wonder what Putin will give us other than massively shifting goalposts away from turning Ukraine into a vassal state to some vague "we taught them a lesson".

[@richardvernon317]

@@simplicius11 DONT BET ON IT!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWTJi4Sjgr9nobs

[@GoMrTom]

@@simplicius11 I'm already pleased. I thought Russia would run over the Ukraine like Germany over Poland in 1939. Russia has a big army but it seems that they don't have good leaders. After all these weeks, I think now that the Ukraine has a chance. Ukraine soldiers fight for all. Their nation and their freedom. Russian soldiers fight for nothing. I think their morale is low now. Even Putin didn't expect this resistance.