"Germany is the easiest country to get into as a Foreign trained Doctor" | Amanda's Story

[@edwardmukiibi]

Thank you Doctors. Now i will Guten Aben soon

[@drcissyatwine]

haha yes.. lets guten morgen 🤣

[@kihembodoreen7368]

"The surgeon.. hehehe it's enough I can't take it anymore. " hehehe I have had a good laugh. Thanks for sharing this. I am not even a Dr. but I am so curious about people who have uprooted their lives and started again. It is incredibly resilient and admirable. Love to see it. Thanks for sharing

[@drcissyatwine]

I find it interesting too watching other people's stories..there is always something to learn 🙂

[@DR.PIRITON-UG]

amanda thnkx for the video

[@drcissyatwine]

Thanks for watching 😄

[@Curiosity1chronicles]

Thank you for this video. Am a ugandan doctor in Germany starting the process of approbation.

[@drcissyatwine]

Good luck in your journey

[@amandaakatukunda]

All the best! Which Bundesland are you in?

[@Curiosity1chronicles]

Kassel, central Germany

[@josephkasule5765]

Can you share with me your contact like email lam a medical student in Uganda but planning to go to Germany but I don't know how to start but I want to go on with my profession I w ill be glad thanks

[@andertonmasanja8128]

@@josephkasule5765 hello Im a medical Doctor in Tanzania working on the same process, It would be nice to link up

[@nevillemuhumuza2753]

Excited to see Amanda. Recall her during internship in Lacor... Cool stuff

[@amandaakatukunda]

mehn Lacor builds another kind of resilience. Still look back on my time there...fond memories

[@nevillemuhumuza2753]

And you know what.. It's built many international doctors.

[@drcissyatwine]

@@nevillemuhumuza2753 Maybe you're next.. are you looking to move abroad? or are you abroad already?

[@drcissyatwine]

So sorry about my clunky editing😭 this is all me.. my production team was too busy with other things.. and now its too late. I was thinking of putting it down and re-uploading? hmm what do you think if you watched?

[@kihembodoreen7368]

It's just fine.. confused me for a second but it didn't affect the story flow. Everything flows and makes sense.

[@drcissyatwine]

Thanks Doreen 🙂@@kihembodoreen7368

[@Milly_in_denmark]

This was so nice listening too. You ladies are making us proud. I get so excited when I see a black doctor in scrubs here, but it’s rare. Is she on KZbin?

[@amandaakatukunda]

No I'm not 😶

[@Milly_in_denmark]

@@amandaakatukunda it’s okay Amanda. Just wanted to come follow and support. Nice meeting you on this channel then😊

[@amandaakatukunda]

Awwwww🤗🤗🤗

[@amandaakatukunda]

I'm definitely going to go follow you😉

[@drcissyatwine]

@@amandaakatukunda What ? you don't know Milly? She's amazing! i feel like she's living my future dream life of when the kids are grown up.. I love her home, style, hair..etc..etc.. she also has a channel just for her home..follow follwo 🙂

[@drcissyatwine]

Bannange nga we over talked haha.. i really was enjoying the conversation.. thanks again for coming Amanda 😄

[@zadeckmelch239]

Sure you guys Over did good lugambo 😂😂😂😂😂

[@drcissyatwine]

@@zadeckmelch239 it was actually 2 hours and i had to cut that down 🤣

[@motivationtostrive1216]

Dear Amanda you have just motivated me, i am a medical student in Nigeria, i don't know anyone in Germany, and i don't know all the procceses but am going to try, am going to work hard and am going to try, thank you for sharing i appreciate and i wish you more success ahead

[@drcissyatwine]

Good luck in your journey 😄

[@motivationtostrive1216]

@@drcissyatwine thank you 💓 I hope I make it at the other end of the tunnel

[@drcissyatwine]

@@motivationtostrive1216 Amen 🙂

[@b__Shaba]

Sounds easy. It’s a possibility if your willing to put in the work. You can use resources like skill share and KZbin to learn German in 3-6 months. Well done Amanda. Great podcast Cissy

[@drcissyatwine]

Thanks.. if UK stresses us we can Guten Morgen 🤣

[@lynnsemakula2587]

Cissy, you’re the best! Amanda’s story is so inspiring! Like who learns medical German!!

[@drcissyatwine]

I know.. right 🙂 she's a star

[@zaweddenorah9363]

Woowww…. Amanda, am so inspired by your story . Your determination to learn German ( on top of your clinical acholi…lol)#impressive. I, too, used to think am not a “languages person “ but I just might give it a try. Cissy, thanks for hosting Amanda. Loved it! P.s: Is short hair to go to style for you people in ‘outside countries’?? Don’t your bu-heads feel extra cold in winter?

[@drcissyatwine]

Thanks Norah.. Wow Amanda also knows Clinical Acholi.. that's amazing.. that reminded me that i used to know clinical luganda more than regular luganda at some point haha yes please do go give it a try and let us know how you get on 😄...😂😂 our bu heads do feel cold in the winter.. but there are hats for that.. for me the hair was too much work so i cut it but i am regrowing it and i shared more about my hair journey in this vlog kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJ-yaWiHhL2KbNU

[@zaweddenorah9363]

​@@drcissyatwine Thanks Cissy. Munange Amanda and I did our internship together from lacor hospital and yes, we would clerk in Acholi. BTW...I love your content. it has given me courage to consider opportunities out there. Thank you. Also, you introduced me to "Mukwano gw'abato" and my kids love it. Keep doing what you do.

[@drcissyatwine]

@@zaweddenorah9363 aaw thanks for saying that.. i love mukwano gwabato.. did you watch the interview i did with Diana? i was star struck myself..such a big fan😄 yes please do not limit yourself .. you can do anything😄

[@simprozaanek2026]

Thank you so much for this video , i first watched it last year but i keep coming back to rewatch it Am a Dr from Uganda but currently practicing medicine in west Africa for the past one year ,now studying my German language B1 under Goethe institute ,exams in april I have a concern n request for some guide, i would like to move to Munich to do my B2 and FSP ,n later work there , i have a family,husband and 8 months old baby , so if i move to Germany for my B1 and FSP ,after how long wil they allow my husband and baby to join me 😢, and can i do without a blocked account of €13k .i have tried to search for a mail for Munich medical licensing board so that i ask some questions but hasnt been fruitfil,do u have a mail which i can text and they reply back. Thanks

[@nellymiyombo6938]

Grew up speaking English, was taught in English, but getting that 7 in IELTs writing was a struggle, I cannot imagine starting to learn German and passing the language test😂😂😂 Their licensure exams seem so easy though, its like its just there for formality purposes 😂. Well done Amanda for making it thus far.

[@drcissyatwine]

So true.. it sounds difficult to me too..but mind over matter.. where there is a will... there is a way 😄 i guess if things were bad enough where i was.. its a good option to consider

[@amandaakatukunda]

The exam is still an exam like people fail but I believe after all we go through in UG...we can definitely pass these exams

[@kihembodoreen7368]

By the way child care is also such an issue in Uganda. Us working mums really struggle. But what makes it easier, is the possibility to get into my car and drive to my mothers house, or sisters house and just breathe.. That sense of community and family. I would really struggle if I moved countries.

[@drcissyatwine]

that's the option that we dont even have here so do enjoy it.. its a privilege many take for granted :-)

[@dr.ogwangjoshua1391]

Pleaaase Enjoy this privelage. It’s a big one . Abroad is very very exhausting with kids and needs a lot 5X more resilience because no one will ever come to your rescue and you are only with your spouse . Working shifts here and there and rent is soo tough can be almost half or more of a monthly pay check

[@doctormenn]

Am considering German from Amanda's chat. Letbme start on the language kati kati

[@drcissyatwine]

Good luck with the Guten Morgening hehe.. you can do it.. come back and tell us when you do

[@amandaakatukunda]

All the best!

[@anenadiana3785]

Thanks Amanda and Cissy.

[@drcissyatwine]

you're welcome :-)

[@lamemogolo]

Thank you so much for sharing Amanda's story! There are so many opportunities all over the world. As someone who has lived in the USA for over 5 years, I don't think the USA is that bad. And in terms of payment/salary; those who are fully qualified attendings/consultants get the big bucks, but the trainees get enough to get by. But inflation is not helping; things are tough out here too; especially for trainees (residents and fellows).

[@drcissyatwine]

USA does sound way better in terms of money.. Een today Consultants in the UK are on strike citing better pay elsewher like the US. Also the racism issue isnt that much different..someone who knows better was saying it can be worse in the UK because they pretend that they are not racist which is like burying your head in the sand. There was even a report claiming There is no institutional racism in the UK ! Atleast its acknowledged in the US...which is always the first step to solving a problem.. So if you're reading this. please don't be put off by the US... try your luck

[@kitandwehusam5947]

Thanks for the video cissy. Yet to start on this path, between 🇩🇪 and 🇬🇧 buh she didnt tell us costs for the exams plus documentation

[@drcissyatwine]

You’re welcome 😊oh yes.. i guess you will have to search for the germany ones but i did the prices for the Uk ones at the time i made the move

[@amandaakatukunda]

Sorry for the late reply Currently the first exam costs between 390 and 600€ Second exam costs between 400 and 1,100€ Cost varies according to Bundesland.

[@josephkasule5765]

​@@amandaakatukunda thanks alot for the video can you please share with me your contact lam a medical student in Uganda but my plan is to come to Germany and I want to use your path can you help me please I will be glad

[@keljose7839]

Please do a video about salary scale of doctors in Germany.

[@drcissyatwine]

yiii how when i am not in germany? maybe if Amanda starts her own youtube channel.. which she should 😄

[@keljose7839]

@@drcissyatwine like hosting her back to tell us more about salary

[@drcissyatwine]

@@keljose7839 Oh right..got it😄

[@Calvynmike]

This has been very interesting. Currently looking through options of German, uk , Canada.

[@drcissyatwine]

Ahh decision time, let me know which one you end up in

[@dr.ogwangjoshua1391]

@@drcissyatwineI am in canada . Please use UK , Australia, Ireland or Germany. Canada is tough to enter the system you can easily get trapped and loose your profession. Or even Dubai

[@raymondluyima7281]

Hallo Dr Cissy, i would like to Ask Amanda something about the process. Something to do with document Apostille and legalization before they're submitte to the german offices. If you could please connect me to her, id really appreciate that. Thank you so much

[@drcissyatwine]

what's the specific question and i can ask her

[@amandaakatukunda]

If you drop your email, I'll get in touch

[@peteridiiro2806]

Fellow Ugandan from Jinja. Am in my 3rd year med in Hungary Europe. I've been advised to go to Germany after here. Am starting the language in 4th year. Will be there in 2028!

[@drcissyatwine]

good luck 🙂

[@mujuniemanuel7547]

Thanks for the video.

[@drcissyatwine]

You are welcome!

[@josephkasule5765]

​@@drcissyatwinethank you for the show Dr cissy, could you share with us Dr Amanda's contact to inquire from her about how to reach Germany, am planning to go in Germany after my medical school

[@serynasandraawino8738]

Dr Cissy and Dr Amanda .thank you for sharing . Recently there has been an international German language examination as a mandatory in addition to other requirements for becoming a doctor in germany .My question is, for how long is that certificate valid before applying for the medical language exam ? can i do it one year prior

[@serynasandraawino8738]

In Uganda these days we wait for 8 months before internship. I am thinking of putting that time to use by learning the language

[@drcissyatwine]

sorry no idea but maybe Amanda can answer if she sees this one day but i would go ahead and google to get a quicker answer

[@doctormenn]

How about if you havent yet done internship? Can you do internship from Germany??

[@drcissyatwine]

Yes you can do internship from Germany. It is called Praktikum

[@amandaakatukunda]

You have to do internship in Uganda first

[@12drmane]

Hello Dr Cissy, I have been seaching for videos on YT on how to get a medical residency in germany as foreing doctor but I must say this one is the best I have come across sofar. However, I would like to know if there is any way I can get in touch with Dr Amanda so that I can ask her some calarifications on some points she mentioned.

[@drcissyatwine]

thank you 😄 you can ask here and she comes and responds to comments as she said in the video..i can remind her too if its taking a while

[@miriamchirowodza8332]

Point of correction. The level of German knowledge required right now is B2 and that language is not easy at all.(doesn't compare with ielts)Also the process of processing documents and clearing exams doing it from outside that country is not a joke. It sounds easy because that lady was living in that country with her husband.

[@miriamchirowodza8332]

Plab route is way cheaper and easier in my opinion

[@drcissyatwine]

I don't think she made it sound easy at all.. it sounds really difficult but if someone is interested in that path for whatever reason, they can be encouraged that its possible

[@amandaakatukunda]

The language is no joke, as I said I even repeated what I thought I knew😂 Processing documents: I did it during COVID so everything took long. Exams were even cancelled. Now things are moving faster...some regions of Germany are slower than others. I'm in Bayern

[@believer2010ful]

Thank you so much. Why can't people be realistic. She is also skipping out many things.Even Bildungsgutschein is not that easy to get

[@believer2010ful]

​@@drcissyatwine. Dr Cissy, read your heading "Germany is the easiest country to get into as a foreign trainened foreign trained ...

[@SarahAdryen]

thank you so much god bless you

[@drcissyatwine]

thanks Sarah God bless you too 😄

[@zadeckmelch239]

I moved to Germany in April and write now I have enrolled to language school. It would be good to get in touch bambi. 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@drcissyatwine]

Ah.. then this video was just for you it seems.. goodluck in your exam

[@tinokash7911]

Which school did you enroll in , and any recomendations

[@ianndei467]

I enjoyed watching this video really insightful. From your experience @Amanda how favorable is it for me a Kenyan to apply for approbation in the German state of Hessen compared to the other states in Germany?

[@amandaakatukunda]

That I cannot say...I don't have experience there.

[@drcissyatwine]

let us know if you find out

[@agbolagoriteolubayo2859]

Thank you for this You just got my subscription Pls did you do your cresential evaluation? I mean degree certificate to be equivalent to german. If yes ,how long?

[@drcissyatwine]

no idea.. will ask Amanda to tell us when she has a chance

[@gracenyamaizi6937]

I'm tempted to try it out. Are there good prospects for Pharmacists? Also, i have a bit of background knowledge of the german language (studied it upto A-level in high school), would i still have to go through all the stages upto B2?

[@drcissyatwine]

No idea but hopefully Amanda will come along and tell us

[@amandaakatukunda]

I'm not sure how it works for Pharmacists but I will find out and come back 😉

[@gracenyamaizi6937]

@@amandaakatukunda Oh thank you! Will be glad😃

[@TheStudyArena]

@amandaakatukunda did you find an answer regarding pharmacy?

[@TheVividArmadillo]

Thanks Amanda and Cissy for this informative and fun seminar. I'm a medical student in my final year. I am studying german and will do B1 soon. What is the name of the program you did? Could you share the link. Also, can I go to germany without intership?

[@elizabethorishaba7373]

Did you get an answer, is it possible to go to Germany without doing internship from here in Uganda

[@amandaakatukunda]

Heyloo, you absolutiely need to do internship. Make scans of all your internship certificates and get notarised copies if possible. I enrolled at the VIA Institut in Nürnberg

[@drcissyatwine]

😄

[@julianjoy6927]

Thank you so much for bringing this. I ama medical doctor just finishing my internship in uganda but would like to relocate to Germany. Is it possible for me to get Amanda's details just to get in touch with her fir guidance please...

[@drcissyatwine]

Do you have a specific question i can ask on your behalf?

[@julianjoy6927]

​@@drcissyatwine I am currently working on my relocation journey from Uganda to Germany and needed some guidance on her concerning the licensing exam after finishing Germany language classes

[@elizabethorishaba7373]

This letter of internship and medical council, is it for Uganda or internship is supposed to be done in Germany

[@amandaakatukunda]

It's from the Uganda medical council

[@doctormenn]

Do you pay for the residence or you are paid as a resident.

[@drcissyatwine]

You are paid

[@amandaakatukunda]

You are paid

[@julianjoy6927]

Halo @dr cissy Atwine. Hoe can i get in touch with Dr Amanda?

[@drcissyatwine]

@julianjoy6927 you comment your query and she can answer when she gets a chance..she has no public profile

[@xyz-ip9hr]

What is the eligibility criteria for germany? I am FMG, is Philippines primary medical qualification good enough to enter germany?

[@drcissyatwine]

no idea..will ask Amanda

[@NelsonEgbe-2024]

I am not a specialist in my country.. I am a Senior medical officer 14yrs postgraduation, can I enrol into their residency training.. Pls pathway

[@drcissyatwine]

I think the process is the same that she has described but i will ask her and come back if there is something else

[@XJacksonvilleX]

do i have to complete residency years to be able to work in Germany like Amanda? or can i go after graduation and do residency in Germany?

[@amandaakatukunda]

I went a few years after graduation. If you're already a resident you'll probably still have to retrain. Their standards for residency are quite different from UGs at least. It's tough to convince them that you're up to par

[@amandaakatukunda]

Go after grad. After residency you'll still be required to retrain according to their standards

[@amandaakatukunda]

Go after grad. After residency you'll still be required to retrain according to their standards

[@drcissyatwine]

thanks Amanda 😄

[@XJacksonvilleX]

oh that's vital information to know. don't you think it differs per state? I'll have to change my plan if that's the case​@@amandaakatukunda

[@kimoichetabarapberenge1765]

Hallo doctors, don't worry my daughter is joining you soon, let her just invest in her German language. Love from Kenya

[@drcissyatwine]

Good luck to your daughter :-)

[@zadeckmelch239]

Could Doctor Amanda drop her contact in the messages please. Am here in Germany I would love to get in touch.

[@drcissyatwine]

Are you a Dr too? how exciting.. email me and I'll put you in touch

[@zadeckmelch239]

Yeah I have written to you already thanks 🙏🏽

[@drcissyatwine]

@@zadeckmelch239 And i have responded 👍

[@amandaakatukunda]

Waiting to hear from you 🤝🏾

[@kayizziritah3029]

Black excellence, love seeing brown people rinse and make a positive impact. Welldone Amanda und schöne Grüße aus NRW

[@drcissyatwine]

ooh are you in germany too? no idea what the last sentence means but it looks like german

[@kayizziritah3029]

@@drcissyatwine 😂 Yes it's German. I am quite an OG in Germany than Amanda but my journey is different I came to this country, started a new career from scratch, apart from high cost of living than in Uganda, Germany can educate you for free. I come from a natural science background currently into my third year of PhD in molecular oncology/stem cell research.

[@drcissyatwine]

That sounds so interesting! how long did it take you to learn German ?@@kayizziritah3029

[@kayizziritah3029]

@@drcissyatwine I never really devoted a specific time line to learn the scientific German. Basically because one can survive with English when pursuing a science research path. Ofcourse I need German for my daily navigation as it's the official language of communication at work. Also my potential future workplace will involve mostly English & less German.

[@amandaakatukunda]

@@kayizziritah3029 WOOOW I am so impressed. May God continue to help you excel

[@karenhazel7526]

Please share the Facebook groups

[@amandaakatukunda]

I was in a group called APPROBATION FÜR AUSLÄNDISCHE ÄRZTE but they are many others

[@drcissyatwine]

Let us know which ones you find too

[@karenhazel7526]

I am hoping to connect. Please share her contacts ❤❤❤❤

[@amandaakatukunda]

If you drop your email, I'll get in touch

[@drcissyatwine]

😄

[@karenhazel7526]

I wrote before i got to the part of the video which she said she does not want to share her contacts publicly. 😄. Anyways, if she does get the chance to see this or if you could please pass this question onto her, I wanted to find out what she did in order to familiarise herself with the healthcare system here in Germany after arriving. Did she do any Praktikums? I have been living here since 2022 and in this time I was heavily focusing on improving my language and I now recently have B2. I have submitted my document but according to people on the Internet who did submitted their documents, it takes more than the four months stated on their website. It could take up to 9 months and I’m wondering how can I use this time More productively in order to get familiar with the healthcare system and with the conditions that are common here in Germany. I came immediately after my graduation here to Germany so I do not have any work experience so I am nervous about stepping into the hospital as a non-student. I did do my one year internship in my final year of study. What would be the best course of action to fill up this time while waiting for the processes to be done? Thank you so much for the informative video and the time taken to make your videos. Looking forward to your response

[@amandaakatukunda]

Dear Karen, if you share your email, I can get in touch. I came to Germany shortly before COVID. It took a very long time to process my documents. In that time I attended a special preparation course for the exams. I did this even without an exam date. It was very helpful. I even met people with whom we formed a discussion group. It pleases me to say that except for one person, we all have our approbation today. After the course, I did a hospitality for about 2 months maybe and that also helped me get familiar with the system

[@TotalyNotMay910]

And you say it’s easy???

[@amandaakatukunda]

In my experience,apart from learning the language, it is easier than getting into other foreign systems

[@drcissyatwine]

It sounds easier than the UK and the US to me too.. besides the exam part.. working even before finishing all the exams is really a game changer

[@keljose7839]

How long would it take under normal circumstances to clear the first part of the exams given the fact that I have I have the B1 German certificate. And what are the costs involved

[@amandaakatukunda]

The costs really vary depending on the course you visit and the area you're living in. Since you have B1 already. I'd say 6 months to getting a temporary license

[@amandaakatukunda]

However when I came, I also had B1 but I could hardly follow a conversation. So I actually repeated B1 and did B2. You have to get used to different accents and people talking fast

[@believer2010ful]

357 ,000 sq km Germany . Uganda 241,000 sq km. So basicaly ug is 1.5 times smaller than Germany.

[@drcissyatwine]

oh..ok.are you in germany or are you looking to go there?

[@dr.ogwangjoshua1391]

Canada is 41x the size of uganda

[@gaollingategetsi]

Thank you for this video Dr Atwine! can you me your phone number please!

[@drcissyatwine]

If you want to speak to me you can book a session via this website calendly.com/atwinecissy/30min