Germany's PUMA On The Prowl Ft. NUKES! - PUMA - War Thunder

The German Puma gives the Begleitpanzer a run for its money!
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[@pigeon5520]

definetely one of the best IFVs,that 8.3 aint gonna last long

[@fenfrostpaws2000]

Works well enough at 11.0, so a BR increase or two won't be bad. I just hope they don't nerf the survivability

[@commandervocal3848]

Hopefully while they are at it they move the BMP-2M up to 9.3+

[@Frisher1]

@@fenfrostpaws2000 No what is likely to happen is they are gonna fix MUSS as it currently doesn't work like it's supposed to and then up it to 8.7 or 9.0, they aren't gonna nerf survivability

[@fenfrostpaws2000]

@@Frisher1 this is Gaijin we're talking about, can never be too sure XD

[@Frisher1]

@@fenfrostpaws2000 I guess

[@derritter3873]

This thing is literally the same br as the Type 89 rn. And the Type 89 can barely turn its turret anymore, and it’s missiles can no longer fire at anything above or below you since it’s speed is now 2 degree per second. Thanks gaijin. Now I no longer use the Type 89 anymore.

[@pedror598]

It's clearly not going to stay at 8.3

[@Saiga906]

Always remember gERmaN SufFeR

[@Future183]

Hahahaha cry

[@frazzle620]

this works at every BR onwards from 8.3, this thing is wayyyy too strong at it's current BR.

[@MD-wn4ui]

And the German mains were crying about the lack of ATGM's lol

[@brunoturossi]

@@MD-wn4ui but MUSS :/

[@frazzle620]

@@MD-wn4ui Spikes nonetheless, Fire-and-Forget ATGM's

[@mrprism5382]

Fix its bugs and issues with ammo, and slap it 9.3 easily. Give it dumbed down MCLOS SPIKES and it's 10.7 easy

[@123TheCloop]

@@mrprism5382 fix its bugs..... even with the bugs its a 9.3 IFV lmao. if anything if they fix the bugs including the MUSS its more than a 9.3 IFV with APS

[@bigsmoke9486]

Fun fact: the PUMA is the only vehicle in WT to have a 5.56 MG.

[@mcdonnelldouglasfa-18c49]

Imagine it with spikes, correct APS functionality and selectable armor packages

[@Ikaisu.]

So10.3

[@Liverpool2102MHB]

@@Ikaisu. 11.0 lmao.

[@Vibakari]

Gajin: 6.3!

[@b-17gflyingfortress6]

@Tz'arkhan Besomar Ironic really. Her chief enginner was Russian and she was built by Soviet Union

[@Registered_Simp]

@@Liverpool2102MHB 12.0 LMAO

[@weepweep2225]

Justin: “DONT PUSH UP!!!” Also Justin: pushes up…. 😭😂😂

[@tatihof4919]

The Puma fighting against IS 4s is like a Lepoard 2A6 fighting against a T-55. It's just not fair.

[@janpanek6284]

Well that is Gaijin for you. I doubt noone told them it is OP on test server, but as always, those imbeciles do not care.

[@julianviefers6703]

The aps is inconsistent tho. Had multiple times where it didn't interfere the missile

[@captainfactoid3867]

It only works against certain kinds of missiles.

[@cacommanderash1919]

The soft kill APS mainly counters/disrupt wire guided ATGMs with laser guidence (mouse guided) but doesnt disrupt missiles like SS-11's or any other key guided ATGMs and i think barrel launched ATGMs

[@HoChiMeme]

Good. Burn hard agent of the antichrist

[@RMMinc]

@@cacommanderash1919 isn't being impossible to jam like the main thing of wire guided atgms?

[@markacostajr.1584]

This thing is worse than the pt76 57

[@eriklammertkhlhansen1522]

I was totally bullied by 3 Pumas having spawned 3 times over and just lost my barrel and tracks and then gerning shot in the side… this vehicle is not balanced but it sure looks fun. =D Vehicle request, after having reviewed the new update vehicles: The American striker, M1128.

[@bubba9r]

WHY is this thing fighting WW2 tanks? Wow just wow.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

its not? what ww2 tanks are at 7.3?

[@tinuraviel9507]

@@marcusborderlands6177 at 7.3 / 7.7 you have the T-32's for USA and the IS4 for USSR for exemple. They both are heavies designed during last phases of WW II and out before 1950. So yeah basicaly another case of WW II designs fighting 21st century tech 😂

[@marcusborderlands6177]

@@tinuraviel9507 they are not from WW2 like your comment said. If you just meant heavy tanks, which is a WW2 concept, then just say it. There are even more egregious issues right now, like the 6.0 105mm heat m51 plague. I feel disgusting using it, and it makes all armor irrelevant

[@elkrumb9159]

It’s not tho and I’ve always hated this argument anyways

[@tinuraviel9507]

@@marcusborderlands6177 IS 4 : designed in 1943, production 1943/1946 ... T-32 designed 1944/1945, production 1945 ... definitively not WW II tech?? Really ?? Not being used during the war doesn't mean not produced. Concerning the M51, even though its 105mm HEAT is kinda strong at this Br it is unconsistent and it is just a sherman hull at the end with less armor than the 76mm jumbo wich sits at 6.3. And the ammunition it fires is accurate.

[@raizencore]

Love a good redemption arc, 2 nukes in a single video? Are you freaking kidding me? Hats off!

[@firecracker7736]

I hate this thing so much “I’m mainly 8.3 Russia and have some 8.0 America” literally when I hear that gun behind me in my T55 I’m like “well this is great”

[@killthemall55]

I feel you maaan. You hear that thunk thunk thunk in the background and you feel your life is about to be expired

[@IDecaturX]

I’d expect this to end up at least 8.7-9.0 and even the bagelpanzer going to 9.0 but the BMP-2M? That’ll go down now XD

[@lexmen1089]

Because "Is frtting killed to much". Atlast someonr knows thqt anythibg beyond 9.3 isnt habitable for it.

[@bro3217]

Bagelpanzer sucks balls in uptiers and is broken in downtiers. So making it 9.0 would be the end of jt

[@SPECTR_Eternal]

Unfortunately for BMP-2M it blows up from a wet fart targeted roughly in its area. PUMA on the other hand, can easily tank multiple APHE shells, sustained 30mm fire, a non-Tandem ATGM to the face and even most of the low-medium powered autocannons from jets. The fact PUMA gets a crystal-clear thermal imager and a 30x zoom (not to mention a laser rangefinder) at 8.3 when most of the Soviet tanks barely get their stabilizers and 1st-gen nightvision is fucking stupid. BMP-2M should not be at 8.7, but rather 9.0 as well as this PUMA. In fact, I consider this vehicle worthy of 9.7 if it ever gets SPIKEs, if not 10.0. I mean 1956's EBR fighting IS-3 from 1947 for stupid enough, PUMA is from 2016! And BMP-2M, while a good glass cannon is from 2013! One thing is having good weapons and literally zero armor, having insane armor and good weapons is the other!

[@bobboo101]

@@SPECTR_Eternal then it got buffed. It now deserves 10.0

[@lurlene595]

imagine that year ago this thing was at 8.3

[@-_-death4646]

I met one of this thing in the Test Server in my ADATS. It took me 5 missiles to kill it. That's what we call ARMOR

[@unoriginalplays120]

Everytime I see this thing I immediately go for the barrel.

[@PatrickLipsinic]

The Begleit got a stab but they nerfed the SAP-T's pen by half.

[@emilsinclair4190]

Yeah and this vehicle is still missing a lot of stuff it has in real live. The armor is even thicker and the aps works better.

[@RandomHui]

this thing is stupidly survivable, ate my ATGM like it was nothing, bouncing my APFSDS like 70% of the time (maybe I was extremely unlucky), stock tanks with HEATFS are literally their meal since they have ERA and extremely sloped front, not to mention the APFSDS belt and can break my cannon in less than 1s

[@Maximilian7992]

This thing is supposed to shoot 200 rpm yet it starts overheat after firing 25 rounds

[@nerokcubreva]

the rmp is just a measure of how rapidly a gun can fire, not how long it can sustain fire. The a-10 can fire at 4000 rpm, but the gun will melt if it fires 4000 rounds in a minuet

[@emilsinclair4190]

@@nerokcubreva the gun can actually fire at 700 rpm but the puma just uses 200 rpm because it wants to be more accurate. So o don't think that your reasoning is correct.

[@nerokcubreva]

@@emilsinclair4190 you referenced the gun overheating, I was just clarifying that the rpm of a gun has nothing to do with its thermal performance

[@xela79]

@@nerokcubreva well it does sort of, if the puma fires any faster the barrel would also overheat faster.

[@-snek-3548]

And its 10.0 now to be expected

[@hellogoodbye388]

Puma with missiles, "I have become death, destroyer of worlds."

[@SOP.D]

Shove that in 9.3 and it still performs

[@nacrokingswatcher1820]

Puma is my favorite ifv glad to see it in game

[@jensonbacon2523]

Thanks for the carry in the 2nd game Justin! Good to see you in game too!

[@jackgamer6307]

Every time a puma gets shot and survives, remember this: Gaijin thinks this is a light tank

[@HoChiMeme]

This invincible sabot firing autocannon ifv from 2015 with thermals and an active protection system is the same br as the T-62. Immaculate balance. This game is beyond mental.

[@steveshumate1983]

It's only .3 BRs above the warrior which has no stabilizer, no armor, a slower firing gun with no apfsds, and no stabilizer, and a missile that's super slow. Makes perfect sense

[@aratay3117]

The undertiered vehicles are getting more ridiculous with each patch

[@brunoturossi]

Ptard57 was not enough for gaijin, we need something more broken

[@luckysamurai]

if you crack the ammo rack in the back of the turret all it can do is run away (the blow off panels mean all of the ammo just burns away)

[@brunoturossi]

@@luckysamurai totally reasonable. You just need to hit the ammo with your no stab no laser rangefinder no thermals tank and let the puma run away

[@alanwatts8239]

That double nuke run was some interstellar shit LOL

[@atlock6905]

People: PUMA IFV is best IFV AT 8.3 Also: what about BMP-2M 1200 pen at 8.7 ? Anyone wanna talk?

[@janpanek6284]

At least BMP-2M is not in a regular tech tree.

[@thaleschelski9986]

@@janpanek6284 and it makes even worse, because people don't even need to play russia to play it, just need to be active and you recieve rp for it, and people can pay GE for it to insta research, something that if it was in tt, would not be possible, only if it was the next vehicle

[@janpanek6284]

@@thaleschelski9986 Yeah true, I forgot there are still people throwing Gaijin money...

[@thaleschelski9986]

@@janpanek6284 yeah, and these same people complain about the game alot, but keep on donating money like a dispenser, and if the community really wants gaijin to fix things, they need to attack where it hurts, the pockets, but they spend their time cursing each other

[@HoChiMeme]

At least you can kill a bmp.

[@nickykonarski3365]

Nukes nearly every game now it's gonna get bumped up a lot

[@Andrew85or]

Better survivability than all the US MBTs combined.

[@habsburg4858]

We played yesterday and my friend said :" dude... i think this guy is a youtuber😂😂" 19:55 - IchMagEnten

[@Mocha_122]

Guess I won't be playing 7.3 anymore

[@Sebastian-yl7nq]

This thing most certainly can't stay at its current BR. Haa to get up to at least 9.0, 9.7 at max ... although it can honestly be effective at any BR They could also add another Puma version with the ATGM at top-tier

[@MexTazoky]

9.0 max

[@simonlind44]

@@MexTazoky Lol no. It's straight out better than the 9040B which is 9.3. it's comparable to the 9040C, so 9.7-10.0

[@creed_zero]

Make it go up to 9.3/9.7 and give it Spike atgms then okay otherwise not above 9.0

[@simonlind44]

@@creed_zero No. It'd be fine in its current form at 9.7. It doesn't need ATGMs.

[@aflyingcowboy31]

@@creed_zero It is highly unlikely the spike ATGM will be added soon, or if it is it will go to a BR that faces hard-kill APS, i.e. if the PUMA gets the spike atgm it will go to 10.0 -11.0 easily. The spiked missile can work in a similar fashion to the US javelin.

[@sealclub13a79]

the amount of hand holding that germany gets at every tier is unbelievable lmao

[@icy3-1]

Just yesterday in my games with Yedi and Sneak, Yedi told us that he was a hundred or so thousand RP away from the Puma and isn't consistently grinding. Seeing this, I couldn't be happier to see him play it with you :3 With regards to BR balancing, imagine Gaijin bringing the Puma and Begleit up to like 9.0+ and keeping the BMP-2M at 8.7 -Icy 3-1

[@firestarteronyoutube5542]

16:41 just sayin, if u shoot the very tip of the barrel, or the muzzle brake, thats generally the best way to kill a barrel in my experience from front on. If u hit the side of it at an angle of, say, 60 degrees or more, itll probs ricochet

[@clarenceng8834]

I saw at least 6 pumas in a single match all of them rushing toward the point. Some of them seem to think that their puma is unkillable.

[@superbrain3848]

if Gaijin adds the BMPT it will probably be like the Puma RN, you get T-90 Level of protection, 2 BMP-2 Guns and really good ATGMs.

[@purplenurp5590]

Yeah I'm thinking this and the bmpt will be at 9.0

[@superbrain3848]

the BMPT will not stay at 9.0 for sure, you get 4 Kornet ATGMs and decent Protection and Remote Controlled turret. will be more around 10.3 imo

[@alexanderthemeh733]

2 BMP-2 guns but one shoot pure AP and another shoot pure HE, basically gonna perform like BMP-2M with T-90 hull in Warthunder

[@davefedoruk6598]

Just unlocked it. This is arguably better than the HSTVL (although size is a thing) . I was looking forward to it with Spikes at 11.3, now I'm convinced they're going to have to wait until they mover the BR to 12 or so.

[@_jagerbomb]

ah yes, the famous germany suffers

[@cutthroat795]

First match with this thing, got like 3 kills and got pummeled. Died with like 1600 SP lol

[@camung2361]

double nuke ? wow thats rare...

[@levismith7423]

That ERA has eaten my APDS from a Conqueror, Cent mk10 even Vickers mk 3

[@crazyadam9281]

This should go upto 8.7-9.0 th BMP2M should go up to 9.3 the bagel that could stay where it currently is since it doesn't have the survivability of the Puma nor the awesome ATGM's that the BMP2M has.

[@a_stone]

Oh but don't worry, the BMP-2M will still be 8.7 even though it should be at minimum 9.3.

[@Sacrilege7294]

Absolutely brainless. So is the Begleit. Thank you, Gaijin. More handholding for Germany to enjoy.

[@destroyerarmor2846]

Git good. Skill issue

[@EcchiRevenge]

gErMaNy SuFfErS

[@nopoint30]

“Absolutely brainless” Well. So is the entire top tier in terms of gameplay and game sense. Someone I watched said people who buy top tier vehicles suffer from having no experience there. I say bs. At that br it’s like racing but with every assist available known to man. Hell, even just a laser range finder is game changing (looking at you Ikv 91)

[@unlockingsnow8571]

@@nopoint30 he's correct when he says they buy a top tier vehicle they have no experience. Everyone says it, including Justin himself. you'd be the only person calling BS. If you are new to war thunder and instantly buy a leapord 2pl, do ya think you're gonna be very good when you vsing other way more experienced players? Plus what's this horseshit about having every assist? You litterslly have to play to unlock the laser range finger and apfsds for the 2PL. And before you even try to say "well when you buy a t72av turms, it comes with everything stock", that's not top tier... That's 9.7. And if you were to get uptiered in it, you'd get slammed at 11.0.

[@julianviefers6703]

Remember Japanese have the same shit lol

[@angrywehraboosnoises8016]

You have to to try the begleitpanzer again. It got a better turret speed and elevation A stabalizer More ammo It is like a puma but with a better gun and better mobility and better ammo

[@derisers8953]

better gun lmfao

[@angrywehraboosnoises8016]

@@derisers8953 yes better gun. It has a better pen on a flat angle and missiles which are alot better than the pen of the puma

[@shaunkelly9053]

No wonder this is 10.0 now.

[@123456gordon]

They'll put it at 11.0 just when I finish researching it, you just watch. It's always the same, I never get to play with the OP stuff Sadge.

[@aqeelslamang8305]

I can destroy it rather easily if the hull is visible. If the hull is done though you can shoot the area/box next to the gun. The ammunition is there. It won't detonate the tank but there'll be no rounds to fire. They do dominate the battefield in groups though. Definitely won't stay 8.3.

[@zeoptimizer6757]

Just wait till it gets the SPIKE

[@doctorgumballjlo4718]

Give the puma spikes and I won’t have problems up tier it

[@superknightlol]

its just gonna get better when bug report on this vehicle get fixed. the KLARA ERA should be able to withstand 2 HEAT shell and has 120mm KE protection. the lower composite block should also has 120KE protection. the MUSS work 360 not the front only so it should work even when you arent looking at the missile. frontal armor should be stronger as well, 120mm + protection same with the lower plate. AHEAD should work like HEVT since this has optical tracker and it should work against missile or atgm as well. if gaijin implement the spike or mells atgm as simple tandem atgm it should be at least 10.7.

[@superknightlol]

@@Phapchamp are you on drugs? those claim arent fairy shit, alot of bug report have been forwarded, people that trying to fix the things has already found many primary/secondary sources and prove.

[@leonardo-m2524]

whit all the active protection systems i hope we get the spikes for italy and germani on a puma and dardo

[@Kwisss]

I wouldn't want spikes at all in this game. If they did show up, definitely Israel should be one of the first to have it considering they made it. And any spike vehicle has to be 10.7+

[@mrprism5382]

@@Kwisss spikes can be dumbed down to MCLOS. It would still be a high tier missile due to 1000mm pen tandem warhead

[@123TheCloop]

@@mrprism5382 yh lets dumb down SPIKES to MCLOS because thats totally accurate. sorry but if they add it in, ide rather they add it in functionally and if its too strong for the game then leave them out till there ready.

[@tommyflow5619]

Make spikes like any other basic atgm make it have Los but do a top down style then jt might work

[@mrprism5382]

@@123TheCloop why? It's a widely used missile thay deserves to be in the game, and can be later updated when the tech for Fire and Forget ground missiles is more reasonable

[@meewage7412]

4:44 says it all killed someone called JustinBias

[@arttulehtinen5527]

PUMA together stronk

[@sn0lder]

lmao i would rage so hard if 2 pumas came at me

[@raphaelambrosiuscosteau6685]

Puma, leopard, weasel, tiger, gepard, panther, ozelot and marder gathered in one city and bullied the old poor iosif stalin...

[@alastor6114]

You know, I really wonder what the devs are smoking sometimes

[@_OpFor]

It will be nerfed by the time I grind it out haha

[@lehcetulhakayik]

Justin and 7 best duo (Yedi means 7 in Turkish)

[@jacobb-c7946]

i dont know how but i never knew the bagel got a stab lmao

[@olleronn616]

Let's have a moment of silence for the future repair cost of this thing.

[@Combatwombat-sn7ng]

Can't wait for the bagel video, got a nuke first game of the patch with it lol

[@niccolocaramori7288]

it's so nice to anihilate bmp2m and pt76-57 with this thing but it won't stay at 8.3 but be sure that the bmp2m will stay at 8,7 for some reason

[@popajpopaj9768]

Now bmp2m have reason to stay that low because hawe no armor compared to Puma🤷‍♂️

[@zeroelevens4957]

@@popajpopaj9768expect it has 4 consecutive 1200mm tandem atgms with good mobility and gen 2 thermals

[@popajpopaj9768]

But no armor that's how gaijin work

[@GuitarHeroAddict92]

It is the new PT 76-57

[@DBimo]

yeti the clutch, justin the decoy!

[@nikospapasotiropoulos]

Yeah this need to be a 9.0-9-3

[@rabiealkurba2520]

The Weisel is an IFV? Lol

[@lt.dashkov1079]

this is the quickest ive clicked on one of ur vids bro. keep up the content!

[@Gameplaym0ments]

Well hopefully the more we spam out puma's the faster it gets put at a higher BR. Quite dissapointing once again that they kept it's DEV server BR. You'd think they would have learned from their previous multiple undertiering mistakes like PT76-57, harriers, saggittario, EBR's etc... The cycle repeats.

[@Trllin]

I’m gonna PUMA pants.

[@chocolat-kun8689]

It is not just the Puma that is too strong. The goddanm Turms III is also too powerful in its br.

[@hubbel6831]

finally a german light tank that cant get killed by a 50cal

[@francoislouw01]

dafaq! double nuke ?!?!? well done

[@loliking144]

8:07 dude he was saying no, how could you do that to him

[@atticusseverus]

10.0 is where that thing belongs more like. Another clear reason I'm not going past 5.3 in my own lineup.

[@WtSonar]

PUMA TIME

[@MilHistoria]

I want this IFV, but first I have to get through the Marder 1A3, which is going to be a struggle with having about 50k rp left to go, and not having premium makes it worse

[@s.31.l50]

Don’t play the Marder A3. Just buy it and leave it to rot until Gaijin give it some better missiles or something.

[@danieldeak9141]

HOLY SHIT this thing is tough. Cant wait to get mine :D

[@Ali-88248]

Still haven't played since the last update because the stupid update reset twice and I have a slow connection

[@tommyflow5619]

Super happy to see it added wish it wasn't as bugged as it is but it should definitely go up

[@Il_Principessa]

The real enemy of bmp users

[@trexgames2000]

Puma .most likely gets put up in br soon, it even can wreck at 10.0 it's to strong for its br

[@HolM661]

They have to move it to at least 9.3

[@gunther482]

Gaijin didn't learn from the Strf 9040B being introduced at 8.3 I see. Should have been introduced at 9.0 at the minimum.

[@rpscorp9457]

the B was pretty balanced at 8.3. Its slow with no armor and only the single gun.

[@francoislouw01]

one of the most entertaining wt vids ive seen in a long time!

[@BlitZnGodzilla117]

You think they're gonna drop want of the Type 74s after the nerf this patch? On top of that the Type 89 nerf too

[@some_random_wot_dude485]

Even now at 9.3 it is still really strong

[@collander7766]

9040B is actually 9.3, not 9.0. A bit unfairly imo

[@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov]

"A bit" Sweden does not have anything on 9.3, 90105 is barely holding it's ground at 9.0

[@collander7766]

@@SergeiSugaroverdoseShuykov the 90105 is easily 9.0 material if not higher imo, I think it’s great. Think of it as a more mobile Stryker or Sprut that has the luxury of sitting at the low BR of 9.0. Unfortunately now you have to uptier it to take the 9040B.

[@exactinmidget92]

The bagel has stab? Since when?

[@nicholasleon7819]

FemboyObtainer threw so hard lmaooo

[@addedcheese]

Yea, pretty sure the PUMA is going up in BR

[@jPlanerv2]

It will go to 9.0 and later we will get variant with atgms at higher br

[@superbrain3848]

they could put it easly at 13.0 if they add the Spike ATGMs, wich is a option for it to carry IRL

[@randy0210]

Ok man, let’s not go that far lol. Tow 2Bs are 9.3 and freaking Krizentema missiles, the missiles with the highest pen + tandem, are 8.3 + 8.7 respectively.

[@SilverDawnbreak]

@@randy0210 Over a year later... spike missiles aint that great

[@randy0210]

@@SilverDawnbreak I'm aware, gaijin thinks HEAT warheads= no damage. It's why the maverick and the hellfire are so bad in WT .

[@tooniemusk1869]

I have no idea what they were thinking putting that thing at 8.3 haha. Almost everyone that has hard IRCM agrees that it is a gimmick at top tier but that tier it just works. 9.3-9.0 soon

[@shikikanaz4624]

Btw while U be doing a review on the ztz88a?