Gertrude Grob-Prandl - Vocal Range (G3-D♭6)

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Dramatic Soprano

Dramatic Soprano

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@AhmetOzturkk
@AhmetOzturkk 7 күн бұрын
Just saw this, kind thanks! To any doubts, live audience member Robert Evans has reported her voice was twice as large as Farrell's (!) But, it is the super-bright kind of dramatic that sits a little higher in tessitura The tenor equivalent is Tamagno, or Agustarello Affre.
@operaanimelover369
@operaanimelover369 2 ай бұрын
I love Madame Gertrude Grob-Prandl's massive, ocean-like voice. She may not be a total vocal actress. However, her vocal size and excitement thrill me to a high degree!
@babydrane
@babydrane 2 ай бұрын
She is amazing. The lower end needed work, obviously, but I love how young, energetic and oftentimes sweet she can sound singing at the volume that she does. If you love Wagner, give her a try so you can hear a fresher, brighter Brunnhilde cut right through heavy orchestration without barking.
@KajiVocals
@KajiVocals 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Clearly aiming for a C on that last note but hit a D-flat in stead.
@jmiller05
@jmiller05 2 ай бұрын
I notice that she sings the low notes with a kind of nasal, conservative placement that seemed popular with Germanic singers. I think i much prefer the darker, heavier chest placement from Italian singers.
@Orfeus80
@Orfeus80 2 ай бұрын
I love the combination of her wonderful German diction and energetic phrasing with her powerful voice. She's my go-to dramatic soprano in the German repertoire.
@ER1CwC
@ER1CwC 2 ай бұрын
I partly agree, but I do find her vibrato quite bleaty, particularly in the top half. I think I’m in the minority here though.
@Orfeus80
@Orfeus80 2 ай бұрын
@ER1CwC you're right, it gets bleaty but I'm a sucker for natural diction and phrasing. For this reason, Nilsson doesn't do it for me, so it's a compromise I have to make.
@ER1CwC
@ER1CwC 2 ай бұрын
@@Orfeus80 How about Traubel then?
@Orfeus80
@Orfeus80 2 ай бұрын
@ER1CwC I adore Traubel but I consider her a lower voice, comparable to Flagstad's. And I find myself preferring Traubel's phrasing and expression to Flagstad's monumental and lethargic, as you once called it, Lol.
@ER1CwC
@ER1CwC 2 ай бұрын
@@Orfeus80 All fair points. I think that Flagstad had a special glow to her voice that did a lot of heavy lifting. I agree on the relative merits of Traubel, but she just didn’t have that.
@pixelchords3201
@pixelchords3201 2 ай бұрын
The most pitchy of the famous Wagnerians. She could even give Rysanek a fright. And yet I've heard people on KZbin praise her pitch... Nice A and B-flat tho.
@michaelpapadopoulos5450
@michaelpapadopoulos5450 2 ай бұрын
Huge voice, but i find her consistently sharp.
@JustinPollinger
@JustinPollinger 2 ай бұрын
A lot of haters up in these comments 👀
@Tsquare07s
@Tsquare07s 2 ай бұрын
I notice you removed the Flagstad's vocal range video. Copyright?
@dramaticsoprano5168
@dramaticsoprano5168 2 ай бұрын
Yes. I'll remake it soon though.
@Tsquare07s
@Tsquare07s 2 ай бұрын
​@@dramaticsoprano5168 Thank you.
@Thearchivebeyondimagination
@Thearchivebeyondimagination 2 ай бұрын
A very german voice. More beautiful than i though.
@pixelchords3201
@pixelchords3201 2 ай бұрын
According to herself she trained in the Italianate way. I think you can hear it in the low notes and the in the fast vibrato on top. It is similar to pre-war Italian sopranos.
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре 2 ай бұрын
I don't think she had a very huge voice. Yes, her top is very strong but average and low notes are not big. Compare them with the low voices of Astrid Varnay and Ellein Farrel.
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре 2 ай бұрын
Nilsson had the same type of voice: huge top and week bottom...
@dramaticsoprano5168
@dramaticsoprano5168 2 ай бұрын
I think it is a very loud voice but not a particularly heavy voice. Certainly, Varnay's was notably heavier. I'm not sure about Farrell. I've always thought Farrell and Grob-Prandl were quite similar naturally.
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре 2 ай бұрын
@@dramaticsoprano5168 Farrel was heavier than Hertrude.
@Thearchivebeyondimagination
@Thearchivebeyondimagination 2 ай бұрын
Верха Фаррелл просто отвратительны. Хуже чем у Варнай. Вне оперы, да, у неё есть нижний регистр. Но когда доходило до определённых опер, она всё это дело кастрировала. Пела ту же Джоконду так же, как она бы напевала какие - нибудь поп вариации 60 - х. Варнай очень хороша, велика, но не без проблем. И её нижний регистр можно объяснить разницей тесситуры и тем, что она курила 40 лет.
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре
@ПоэзияРоманаЛафоре 2 ай бұрын
@@Thearchivebeyondimagination У Варнай голос был просто шикарный, особенно средний и нижний регистры. Верхние ноты она тоже великолепно пела, хотя давались они ей не так легко, как Нильссон, Джонс или Гроб-Прандль. Однако, в моем понимании драматическое сопрано должно мощно звучать во всем диапазоне. Варнай, Флагстад в этом плане эталонны. Что касается Гвинет Джонс, Биргит Нильссон, Хильдегард Беренс и Гертруды Гроб-поандль, то их низы звучали слабо, сиедний регистр тоже не ахти. Все-таки драматическое сопрано обязано иметь мясистый низ и обьемную середину.
@alleviation91
@alleviation91 2 ай бұрын
I never liked this woman's voice. Pitchy, and bleaty, her borderline wobbly voice drives me through the roof. She also sounds like an up jumped lyric soprano, rather than a mature dramatic. I much prefer Traubel, Flagstad, Varnay, etc. Loud as all hell, though, and possessing suprising flexibility. Her musicality isn't bad, either! I just can't stand the sound she emits lol.
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