GET Race Kit- Initial Ride Impression, 2021 KTM 300 TPI

[@doc_d4566]

Since your stock ECU is out, why not send it to Two Stroke Performance (or one of their distributors) and get it reflashed. I'd like to see a comparison between the TSP reflash and head (which is cheaper) and the GET ECU (which is more expensive). I'm hearing great things about the TSP kit.

[@gary444]

Great idea!

[@neumann534]

Really good idea

[@Ttnorth11]

Yeah mate. Got to do this.

[@Cee-FJedi]

Totally agree. That would allow for a good balanced review and comparison. Only issue is that maybe the ECU map is modified specifically for the Injector Relocation etc? I have the TSP ECU and med head and it's brilliant.

[@mrdelfs]

This is more watching you ride than any review

[@TokyoOffroad]

I have a separate video which covers the features and installation of the kit. This video was intended to be a ride impression review

[@Crazystuffyousee]

Interesting... But I was expecting something considerably different for the amount of money this kit costs and because it relocates the injectors. Unless there's significant proof of gains on a dyno, the only advantage I can see of this kit is because now you can actually run pre-mix without damage. Well...if running pre-mix didn't prove to be harmful to the injectors.

[@riders.oregon4474]

Excellent riding there man!

[@j-moto1215]

Hey Great video, really liked seeing how the bike pulled up that hill at such a low rpm. I’ve just got a new to me TPI and it’s got a stutter at 0-1/8 throttle, I’ve played with the air bypass a bunch and it’s helped but not cleaned it up yet. Wondering if you have found that these aftermarket fuelling solutions help with the lower throttle inputs and help clean up the bottom end of these TPIs. Looking at the GET and TSP kits. Cheers

[@krp6147]

Fantastic star can't wait to hear more about this item 😎👍

[@dwankers]

Are there benefits just using the injector relocation kit and not buying the ecu upgrade?

[@zaclionakis9822]

iHey, great video, many thanks for sharing! Just one fast question. Is there a noticeable difference between get ecu and the race kit (I 'm on a 2019 tpi)

[@marcusm.3486]

Red spring is where it's at ☺

[@TokyoOffroad]

I tried the RED spring yesterday and really like it. The power is still smooth and linear, just stronger. I left the preload adjuster at the same setting (PV starts to open at 5,500rpm) and richened up fueling. Bike ran great.

[@marcusm.3486]

@@TokyoOffroad I thought you would like it, that's awesome!

[@dannywilliams3947]

Great video. Looks like an amazing place to ride. I appreciate you showing how the bike lugs, so important in really technical riding areas. I do have a question, does your current setup include the rk tek head as well? If so, did you use a richer setting to compensate for the additional compression? Can you increase how much oil is pumped in addition to managing how much fuel? Sorry for so many questions...

[@TokyoOffroad]

Pleased that you enjoyed watching the video. Yes, I have an RK Tek head installed. I added the RK Head as the first major mod and initially used it with the stock ECU and found that it ran really well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGXKlGVpj8uXfJo In my latest video I'm using the RK Tek head, GET Race Kit, RED PV Spring and richened up the fueling. As you can probably tell the bike lugs very well. Power is strong but still linear and easy to control: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXfEYpyop9OabdU

[@dannywilliams3947]

@@TokyoOffroad I appreciate the return note.

[@ptft4]

Hi Mark, what is your long term impression of the GET kit, can you share the pros and cons?

[@TokyoOffroad]

First of all the cons: it's expensive, requires installation & setup and only works with the stock KTM OEM reed valve (I prefer the construction quality & reliability of VForce). The pros I value are: improved performance, during initial setup it's easy to adjust fueling while out riding with smartphone app and tweak to your own preference (ignition timing can also be adjusted), traction control works and helps in slippery conditions, oil injection quantity is significantly more than stock possibly resulting in higher reliability of engine, injector relocation to before reed valve allows use of premix (delete oil pump- dongle required) if so desired. I'm still using the kit and much prefer it over stock.

[@ptft4]

@@TokyoOffroad Agreed, its a high price to pay to make a new bike run as it should. The option to tune is what it tempting me coming from a carburetor bike.

[@lazaroiustefan]

The relocation kit helps the piston to lubricate better? Or is just about power delivery?

[@sakariputtonen2683]

IS stock bike that bad? Many people who have GET race kit, are happy with it but one also see's many post anyone have better map or my bike wont idle/take long time to start. Professionaly mapped GET has some potetial but general maps are just general..

[@TokyoOffroad]

Yes, the map being used will obviously make a big difference. I've had no starting, or idling issues using the maps supplied by Tacomoto (developed by Harris Performance)

[@sakariputtonen2683]

@@TokyoOffroad good to hear. My 2020 te 300i was flawless from the dealer, sportrider map from new. That said, i wanted to try coober ecu and it made the bike more torquer and smooth.

[@chrisbracken7889]

Try Kevlar reeds

[@osvaldodavia8844]

@Tokyo Offroad hello, congratulations for the video, I live in Italy and I have a KTM EXC 300 2018, the bike, unlike the 2020/21 models, does not have an altitude sensor, and to reset the control unit when I climb a lot, I have to turn the bike off and on again , with this GET you have to do the same operation anyway ?? or does it reset automatically while the bike is going ??

[@TokyoOffroad]

Altitude compensation on the 2018/19 model can only be done when the engine isn't running due to there only being one pressure sensor, even if a GET ECU is used.

[@osvaldodavia8844]

@@TokyoOffroad this is the manufacturer's response regarding the product: GET GK-KIT2TI-0000 RACE KIT ECULMB 2 STROKE Dear customer, I report the manufacturer's reply "We confirm that our control unit is reading the barometric pressure even with the engine running: it is therefore not necessary to switch the engine off and on again to adapt the carburetion to the altitude ". At your disposal and have a good day

[@TokyoOffroad]

@@osvaldodavia8844 - Did you state that you have a 2018/19 bike? If it’s true it’s good news. But unless the GET has an internal pressure sensor to read atmospheric pressure while the bike’s running I don’t see how it’s possible…

[@osvaldodavia8844]

​@@TokyoOffroad I contacted the shop again, I asked specifically how does the control unit update itself with the engine running, having only one sensor, NO ANSWER !! luckily I didn't buy it, otherwise I would have spent some useless money, the doubt remains (mystery) about this annoying effect, just go up 400 meters above sea level and at 1 / 7-1 / 8 of the gas opening, it seems that there is no gasoline .. .I am forced to turn the engine off and on again ... really painful. with the carburetor I even went up 1000 meters without the slightest disturbance ... I think it will sell this model.

[@TheTedbull]

@Tokyo Offroad Do you have an update after a month? Still running the GET kit? How does it compare to reflashed ecu? I have a bad studder in the mid range. Looking to clean that up and get bike as smooth as possible without adding power.

[@TokyoOffroad]

Yes, still using it. I did a two day ride this weekend and the bike ran flawlessly. It’s running very well, make good power from bottom to top. In a responsive but linear way. Power off the bottom is good making it easy to lift the front wheel just using throttle. 3 other TPI riders also rode it to compare to there stock bikes and were impressed how responsive it feels compared to their bikes. The big difference to an ECU flash is the you can make adjustments to the timing and fuel maps yourself using the GET App on your smartphone.

[@l8starterl8starter55]

The last time you rode Hino you where on the 2017 250exc, any chance of a comparison between the carb 250 and 300 tpi? Or is that something your planning to do another video on? Thanks

[@TokyoOffroad]

Yes that's right. I still love riding my 2017 250 EXC. I need to finish the build of my 2017 300 EXC. Will be interest comparing carb 250 vs carb 300 vs 300i...

[@jerseyjeeper1575]

Add a pro circuit platinum pipe and an RK head.. then hold on. Power valve adjustment makes a huge difference (assuming yours is out now)

[@kirkthepimp1]

He’s got the rk and fmf

[@jerseyjeeper1575]

@@kirkthepimp1 I yanked the gnarley for the pro. Way better.

[@jerseyjeeper1575]

For me anyway

[@kirkthepimp1]

@@jerseyjeeper1575 I believe it probably is better, but seems like a lot of money for very little gain if any.. just my opinion!

[@TokyoOffroad]

I'm currently using an RK Tek head and FMF Gnarly pipe. As mentioned in the video my PV is set to start opening at 5500rpm and I'm still running the stock yellow spring. Plan to try the RED spring next and see how that feels.

[@SADECEENDURO]

2017 300 exc with keihin or ktm 2021 300 exc wtih get ecu. Which one do you think is more enjoyable?

[@TokyoOffroad]

That depends on how you like your power delivery. I still love the carb bike feel, but TPIs are fun too...

[@michaelsteven1090]

@@TokyoOffroad I havent ridden the TPI yet but my 300 xcw with a Lectron is a blast..I'll be buying A TPI this year..I hope its not a letdown.

[@1MarkBevans]

Sounds positive, might help my modded TE250i as using the JD dobeck tuner with my settings, interesting!!

[@joaocavadas7624]

Whats the difference between this tpi 300 to 300 six days? Does worth it paying more?

[@TokyoOffroad]

For me I didn't want to pay the extra money for the Sixdays. I had already decided that I was going to use XTRIG triple clamps. I do prefer the orange frame, but other than that the differences aren't really of value to me. I think KTM should start offering some performance, or suspension differences for the Sixdays and Erzberg models. Currently they look cool, but functionally there isn't much difference...

[@joaocavadas7624]

@@TokyoOffroad thank you for the update. Not much of a difference than the past years. Any feedback from the new 2021 sherco 300 factory? Can't decide wich one to choose.. ktm or sherco! Both realy good bikes.

[@jimmiller3594]

have you guys tested the coober ecu

[@TokyoOffroad]

No, I've only just got the bike and have tested the stock ECU and GET.

[@Mardog666]

First of all I would like to say I really enjoy your videos, because they are really informative. But no offense, you really need to learn how to ride a two stroke. You just dont clutch properly and I mean big time, for example 2:13, u dont even have a finger on your clutch. This a two stroke so clutch is your best friend. Second thing is you never gas it, even when u should. And if you dont like the bottom end power, the easiest solution is changing the secondary gear ratio from 13/50 to lets say 13/51 or12/48 or whatever. With the FMF shorty you loose some of that bottom end power as well, get an Acropovic and you will see a night and day differnce in the power delivery ;). I am not a pro myself, so I shouldnt be giving advices :), but I cant help myself.

[@TokyoOffroad]

I'm already running 12/50 gearing. The video was intended to show the ability of the engine to pull low down without clutching it. My FMF Powercore 2 is not a shorty pipe.

[@TokyoOffroad]

And you forgot to say that I should stand up more ;-)

[@bradspm9at]

Spent the best part of 3 years trying master the clutch on technical. Currently riding with a trials champ who told me to keep my fingers off the clutch and learn throttle control !! The extra traction and control i get has changed my riding for the better. Where's Phil FFS ?

[@kimojon9665]

I knew he was trying to show us all how low he could go without it stalling out or dogging out. Had nothing to do about how he rides.

[@MP-1965]

Thanks for this! braaaaap!

[@te4097]

do you know the top speed on these 2021?

[@TokyoOffroad]

No, I haven’t tested it. If you were to use tall gearing (Eg 15/42) 160kph should be possible.

[@goodboyringo9716]

After all the upgrades one could use on the KTM you'd have 16,000 into it.

[@chamjack]

Love my KTM, but you’re right 😂

[@mediocre_moto]

$15k on a new bike, and then another $6k to make it work properly. This is why people are moving to the likes or Beta and Sherco.

[@TokyoOffroad]

Plenty of people ride them stock and have a blast. A lot of this comes down to personal preference.

[@goodboyringo9716]

@@TokyoOffroad .... You'll need skid plate , better battery, brake rotor covers to protect them, the KTM seat isn't so good, hand guards, radiator guards and more. These are not personal preference items just to name a few.

[@kimojon9665]

@@mediocre_moto KTM sells many more units than Beta and Sherco. You say they are moving to those bikes, many more are moving from other bikes too KTM. I'm not a KTM fan boy but get real.