Get Rich Farming T17 maps

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T17 Farming Strategy: maxroll.gg/poe/poe-atlas-tree...
- Run 8 mod T16 maps for the most drops.
- Feel free to modify the extra points for the type of scarabs that you want to drop, that's just bonus stuff since Back To Basics limits what else we can invest into.
Changes for Farming T16 8 mod maps:
- Run the juiciest map that you can, if you run a T17 roll for as much of "More Maps" as possible
- Remove one small point and allocate Singular Focus
- Ensure that you have all of one map favorited
- Scarabs:
- 2x Cartography
- 1x Cartography of Duplication
- 1x Cartography of Corruption
If Back To Basics is nerfed in the future, run Red/Blue altars instead and juice for Quantity.
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[@abhidey646]

So glad to see you making these videos despite a low retention league! Sometimes it feels so lonely to be playing PoE in 3.24 :(

[@frostyiv1509]

same :( , still glad my guildmate still stick around farming

[@MilleniumFDH]

Read it as "low retardation league" lol Guess it's not that far off from the truth lmao

[@the_gengar_master]

Fuck yeah. I met a friend on other day and ive been helping him level. 😅 Leagues been fun if you avoid the graveyard. Enjoy the cheap market.

[@GankoInitiative]

So exited to share this with the community. Thanks Subtractem!

[@lukasp.6572]

Thx for the farm mate, I personally went for dunes and had a lot of fortress dropps. Just got 5 fortress in one map :D

[@aayushs8128]

100k subs by next league end? We have to get you there sir.

[@ecosuite2014]

holy crap!! i have never made so much C before in this game....thank you sub.!!

[@Carno836]

Great video, i really hope it will still be applicable next league, because i dont really care to farm much in this league and i dont like doing t17s, but next league i will for sure be doing them on a tankier build

[@GankoInitiative]

Feel the same. Hoping this or Shrine/Terror/Maven version survive.

[@MikeSakaru]

I'm 100% sure they're changing T17s next league since it was never their plan for them to be so much *harder* than the Uber Bosses that they're supposed to be the "Stepping stone" towards. Makes me sad, as T17 map farming with Flicker Strike Trickster was the only enjoyment I got out of this league. But hey, hopefully the game itself will be in a much better state so it won't matter.

[@guitarsolos89]

Why do u spec into removing specific extra content nodes if back to basics removes extra content? Or do u run another strategy with same tree?

[@subtractem]

It also limits the types of scarabs that drop

[@the_gengar_master]

Great video man! I'm still very much enjoying this league. 😊 I'm gonna try incorporating this strat after I get off work in the morning. Farming T17s my main focus now that my builds a lot stronger, but I feel like I still might need to rely on shrines and headhunter buffs to rush the boss. They are OP! Even with a mageblood its baffling. I'm playing LA deadeye. I might drop my artillery ballista for a 6 linked manaforged arrows. I use it to gain frenzy charges now but its by itself. Mapping has been mostly fine as long as I don't put any nasty allflames on. I tried meatsack on a T17 and bruhs thats nuts. I wanna know what kinda health multiplier that gives cause its ridiculous. In those areas I might wanna trade spread for power. Those haunted modifiers I thought about maybe specing into "less effect" on the atlas skill tree, but idk how bad that might NERF loot. 🫤 Sorry for the rant. 😊

[@TheZerosteel]

i just read bla bla bla im copying fubgun build.

[@kkeithf]

I've been running the strategy for a while and you get a better return and more quant on the map without using back to basics. More monsters more maps, you want shrines, breach,and alters.

[@GankoInitiative]

B2B’s benefit is its speed. You might get the most margin with Destructive Play and the juice you mention but it didn’t feel like the highest T17 yield per hour.

[@kkeithf]

@@GankoInitiative what kinda char are you using? I'm not that fast, ea witch, but I don't like being in maps for long either. I'm not using destructive play, burned out on killing guardians. I also have bad luck with b2b rolls.

[@GankoInitiative]

@@kkeithf BAMA so very totem like. Give it a try. For nothing else sounds like you’ll enjoy the tempo

[@kkeithf]

@@GankoInitiative I did try this. Didn't notice more seventeens, I did notice the lack of fun from not getting acceleration shrines.

[@GankoInitiative]

@@kkeithf gotcha. Yeah shrines are fun. That might be the way to go early league.

[@MsMoeb]

Do you also run back to basic for the T17 maps ? Don't they hurt too much with more explicit modifier ?

[@GankoInitiative]

Yeah if your build ain’t ready for T17s farm the 8mods in 16s or buy in bulk from TFT.

[@rendalf256]

Best t17 sustain strategy I played yet, but got two nameless seers in a row and both didnt appear because of pandemonium bug :D

[@subtractem]

Had the same bug too. Super annoying!

[@swiddt3954]

I've been already running this strat with you while watching your stream and liked it a lot. FYI the "No smuggler's cache" notable has no effect related to scarabs and is a wasted atlas point.

[@subtractem]

good point, updated!

[@swiddt3954]

@@subtractem btw I'm also playing your build and it gave me a lot of firsts like the feared and my first lvl 99! Thank you for your videos and content this league

[@xintong5398]

if i remove al the shaper/conquer map modes wil it reduce my normal t17 or 8 mob favoured map drops? because i am on standard and those maps dont sell for anything

[@GankoInitiative]

I remove them when I run 17s for 16s. I haven’t tested it extensively enough to know if some of them are getting converted to 17s when running 16s. Run some batches of both ad report back :-)

[@elwenlie]

Can i run this strat as zoomancer ? Im kinda having a hard time fighting some bosses, or this strat is for high budget char only ?

[@GankoInitiative]

You will want to be able to blast through map bosses since the map will be full of them.

[@azure6051]

when farming the t16 maps in a t17 map do i still use the same scarabs?

[@wsbe]

this is like a divine every 2 minutes? damn

[@GankoInitiative]

Community CHALLENGE: try and get 4 T17s to drop on the same screen. Happens occasionally in the boss room.

[@nerfits]

Does the drawn to power atlas node not work with horned scarab of pandemonium? i figured that would net more chances at atlas boss spawning thus more maps

[@GankoInitiative]

No shrines in Back to Basics maps. If you want to stick with shrines you can go for the Terror scarab instead. It just doesn’t scale as well. But easier.

[@nerfits]

@@GankoInitiative ty for the response, cant believe i forgot about b2b and shrines, awesome work!

[@MilleniumFDH]

Hey man, do you have a PoB/guide to the build you're showcasing with?

[@subtractem]

I do. It's my soulrend build from a few weeks ago.

[@MilleniumFDH]

Have you made any significant changes in those weeks? ​@@subtractem

[@EthernalMist]

For what reason you take nodes to block extra content? Ominous Silenc for eg.

[@subtractem]

It changes the scarabs that drop

[@bekogaming331]

one lil question, why not running this t16 strat into a t17 instead with the high more maps % modifier? is that stat irrelevant for the t17 drops?

[@subtractem]

That is a t17 only modifier

[@bekogaming331]

@@subtractem i was just wondering if you could only run t17 instead of jumping between t16 and t17. self substaining t17 in t17 sounds good to me

[@subtractem]

T17s don't drop in t17s

[@bekogaming331]

@@subtractem aaaah kk thx :D

[@janmannaerts8681]

Running t 16 8 mod maps with favorite map slots or dont take favorite map slots to get more t 17 maps ?

[@GankoInitiative]

Favoriting is okay either way. Just DONT take singular focus when farming for T17s and DO when farming for your preferred T16 8Mod.

[@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814]

i recommend Cemetery, very fun to run

[@GankoInitiative]

Open layout is good for some builds, brothers gift is great but not great density and Sanctuary not as valuable as Ziggurat or Fortress.

[@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814]

@@GankoInitiative I run sanctuary because it is also 0.5 div/map cheaper than fortress and has the 2 most expensive fragments in standard, and the dark seer which is 20 div in standard. Assuming you can handle the boss, overall running fortress is better only better on divination barrel farming, otherwise sanctuary is the best just for the cheaper, frags and for most builds faster layout.

[@GankoInitiative]

@@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814 gotcha

[@SuperDiadra]

Why do u take +map to be a tier higher 1-15?

[@gpumi]

Yet another video showing that juiced back to basics T17 fast farming is the best thing right now... for those with a strong enough build to run the content. Nice vídeo though

[@Zoomakroom]

You can still get nearly the same result by only using B2B on the T16s. Unspec B2B and use that point to get Singular Focus when you run the T17s.

[@GankoInitiative]

Video is mostly about farming in T16s…

[@mikaliao647]

hi, how do you reach ~400% quantity on your maps ? I can barely reach 200 with my setup

[@subtractem]

Back to basics

[@mikaliao647]

@@subtractem Yup, it works, i didn't see that back to basic was random, I just got a lot of low rolls. I think it's a funny strategy but my build bricks on so many mods that it's basically unplayable

[@Sports7764]

I think it's a bit misleading to say the pandemonium scarab is 17 c. If you want to buy 1 scarab at a time it is yes, but most people don't have more than a couple of them, so you have to trade a ton of times to get them, or pay a large markup, like 25c + each, or 4 per 1 divine (maybe the prices already jumped up again since I'm a bit late). Unless I'm missing the better way to buy these without paying a massive markup to get multiple in one trade. Would love if you showed how you bought your scarabs in the future. Thanks.

[@GankoInitiative]

While technically true that there is a range on scarab costs based on bulk vs single purchasing, it’s not misleading to site one of those prices. Also 8c won’t make or break the margins on this.

[@Sports7764]

@@GankoInitiative Good to know thanks

[@GankoInitiative]

@@Sports7764yeah don’t be afraid to pay bulk pricing. the time savings will pay off.

[@iTzVictorSB]

If you are running T16-T17 , why u put higher map tier chance nodes on atlas, as it says T1-15 chance to become 1 tier higher, not working for T16 or T17, if im wrong let me know, kind of noob :D

[@GankoInitiative]

It impacts the Map Equity system and boosts the T16-17 drops

[@relldew2546]

If you re sustaining on t16 with the 8mod scarab , you dont need to take chiselled perfection , since your maps wont have quality . Regardless verry nice strategy , thank you

[@GankoInitiative]

True, while you are in the T16s you can drop it because most but some aren't quality. Then ya wanna remember to add it back in the T17. Or you can keep it and forget it which was kinda the point of Sub's all-in one template (just change 1 point singular focus).

[@ernoti]

Not running maven for more bosses and maps?

[@GankoInitiative]

Can’t do Maven on B2B so ya gotta pick one. Maven is slower with higher upside and is a good change of pace. B2B is better T17 yield and a fun fast pace.

[@ernoti]

@@GankoInitiative oh i didnt know maven also didnt work, i see

[@bennym1956]

Advice to myself, keep on dreaming ! Finally got my 2nd Divine ...👍👍 lol

[@OlafKnolaf]

Chiselled Perfection is useless if your maps have 0% quality.

[@subtractem]

This is a shared atlas that also runs T17s that can have quality.

[@irfanrafi_ardian]

Singular focus decrease the chance of t17s to drop, got it from some guy on Reddit

[@subtractem]

Yes, I say that in the video. You don't use Singular Focus when farming T17s.

[@irfanrafi_ardian]

true, i just forgot to add that it were good when starting off t16 self-sustaining with map supplies

[@dizzy2020]

One thing I've not seen anyone comment on - the Shaper Guardian Maps can drop ALL the T17 maps - just sayin...

[@subtractem]

I am aware of this and considered commenting on it but cut it from the video. Since they can drop all five T17s I think on average it's not ideal due to the price discrepancy between them. A bad streak of dropping 40c maps instead of 120c maps would feel awful when you're investing scarabs.

[@Shiro_Okami5]

I've been running back to basics but recently, pretty much every abomination, fortress and sanctuary map I've run has had an abyss in it........ anyone else seen this? Don't think its intended.

[@GankoInitiative]

I have noticed the bottom mob density slot is almost always abyss but not sure if it’s unintended or changed.

[@Dirty__Dan]

The lantern is what is providing the abyss mob. It’s not part of the back to basics.

[@ecosuite2014]

welp! fun whjle it lasted lol...

[@taylorhayter2835]

What build is that lol

[@subtractem]

my soulrend poison pf from this league

[@Sinocrez]

Did this strat with 10 maps, I can confirm it is indeed a profit :D dropped 6 ziggurat in one map GL bois

[@GankoInitiative]

Six in one! That’s quite a nice spike.

[@Sinocrez]

@@GankoInitiative currently sitting at 16 after doing another 2 maps

[@GankoInitiative]

@@Sinocrez wow nice. They won’t all be like that. In 10 you can expect between 4 and 15. But with how fast they are it’s easy to smooth out RNG.

[@thomasgrimm1664]

So maps are like a key to a dungeon? Interesting... I'll try this to make some quick money.

[@MrJaldal]

Bro....grab the "Boss has wildwood wisps if map is cleared" node...i ran the exact same thing to farm up maps. The wisps really help with the boss drops!

[@IridescentBob]

B2B disables wisps

[@MrJaldal]

@@IridescentBob It didnt when i did it. The boss always had it.

[@markusk3015]

Wtf is a T7 maps,looks like a Vanilla game in TL2 on veteran difficult.OmG

[@subtractem]

???

[@markusk3015]

@@subtractem ah sorry T17😁

[@innabanaag5707]

Second

[@absentgamer5129]

first

[@dragandraganov3655]

If they nurf and B2B its better to delete this shit game...

[@marc-andreblais5818]

ok but seriously can people stop making t17 farming strats, i cant clear a single one and its getting annoying, like really annoying

[@XX-vs6lt]

Get good boi

[@GankoInitiative]

Thats the good thing about this one. You still need a strong character, but you can farm in T16s and sell the T17s

[@DantesBlowtorch]

this isnt a t17 farming strat, its a strat to farm t17s

[@marc-andreblais5818]

@@DantesBlowtorch ah i misunderstood but im ssf so its useless then

[@GE_Photon_Lord]

@@marc-andreblais5818 You can farm those scarabs in ssf ( betrayal, all scarab nodes etc.).