Get the Most Out of Debian: 12 Essential Setup Tips

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@buriedbits6027
@buriedbits6027 2 ай бұрын
28:16 This is amazing! When I was installing Debian, it asked if I wanted to install other interfaces like MATE, Cinnamon, etc. I had heard of these, but I wasn’t sure if I should choose them during installation. I actually came to your channel to figure out if I needed to install these other interfaces, but what you’re showing now makes it clear that I don’t need to worry-I can install them later. Thanks a lot for pointing that out!
@MrAlanCristhian
@MrAlanCristhian Жыл бұрын
With Debian + Flatpak + non free firmware i don't see the point of install a debian derivative like Ubuntu
@sixdroid
@sixdroid Жыл бұрын
non free is not necessary in most cases
@sale666
@sale666 Жыл бұрын
Also ubuntu is so unstable it makes you hate linux...
@HafifSyukra
@HafifSyukra Жыл бұрын
​@@sixdroidnecessary for nvidia users
@albussd
@albussd Жыл бұрын
​@@sale666No. Not true at all. Let us not be unreasonable and sensational just to bash something.
@mazensalem5105
@mazensalem5105 Жыл бұрын
​@@albussd honestly I was using Ubuntu but I only switched to Debian when my sound drivers didn't work. And Debian is more staple than Ubuntu it is just a fact
@Kinsfire
@Kinsfire Жыл бұрын
A little side-note on removing libreoffice in it's entirety: iof you type 'sudo apt remove libreoffic*', it will list all the pieces that it is about to remove. Much shorter than the entire list.
@WebDesignSecurity
@WebDesignSecurity Жыл бұрын
This was helpful as there was no reference to the removing of LibreOffice in the blog post that Jay mentions in the vid (@LearnLinuxTV)
@GerardWassink
@GerardWassink Жыл бұрын
Addition: “sudo apt autoremove libreoffice” is even better because it will also remove dependent packages that are not in ure elsewhere.
@marjiram7709
@marjiram7709 Жыл бұрын
0:20 0:31
@yatheshtpoonia9225
@yatheshtpoonia9225 Жыл бұрын
​@@GerardWassinkthat was helpful
@GerardWassink
@GerardWassink Жыл бұрын
@@marjiram7709 ????
@davemeech
@davemeech Жыл бұрын
Switching from OpenSuse Tumbleweed to Debian 12 now, giving this a rewatch before pulling the trigger!
@the_gtc
@the_gtc Жыл бұрын
For those who are having issues with Nvidia, my laptop was very old and I had to enable Non-free repositories and enable them in the terminal, and then use the sudo nvidia-detect command to find which card I had and what driver was recommended for me. the reason I say this is because following the method shown in the video led me to have no GPU shown within Nvidia X server settings. Now, I am able to because I had to install the Tesla 470 driver. Just a heads up! Might save you all a bit of pain that I had to go through...
@tg5441
@tg5441 Жыл бұрын
I got so many ACPI errors at start but it seems not affecting the running of the system after installing Nvidia driver. Any ideas?
@PrivateUsername
@PrivateUsername Жыл бұрын
It's not just Nvidia, my new AMD rig is unusable with Debian. I think 8 was the last version I was able to install without issue. Between the failures related to missing drivers (because it's better to be "pure" than to actually be functional), the installer failing to set the boot partition as being actually bootable, and now using a failing video driver - Debian is junk. Hopefully by the time 13 is out it will be at least as good as Ubuntu, Fedora, or even OpenSUSE.
@abaneyone
@abaneyone Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this clear and concise tutorial. I have been using Debian bookworm testing for a while and liked it. So when this official stable version was released I had to install it. I love how we no longer have to search for non-free ISOs with this new realse. I appreciate all your vids, the way you pause to give us time to see what you've written in the terminal is excellent! Thanks again for all that you do!
@muxman3132
@muxman3132 Жыл бұрын
My experience with steam on debian 12 is that debian has an "installer" that will install steam, but steam installs the latest version directly from steam, not a debian repo. And steam then keeps itself updated independent of debian repos.
@cssplayer91
@cssplayer91 Жыл бұрын
So its a snap pack? And how do steam games run with proton mode enabled?
@koye4427
@koye4427 Жыл бұрын
@@cssplayer91 It's not a snap, Steam ships its own native Linux binaries and libraries for itself and games to use. Once you enable it in settings, Proton support should work out of the box.
@leonbishop7404
@leonbishop7404 Жыл бұрын
​@@koye4427it's steam native vs steam runtime
@joshua_lee732
@joshua_lee732 Жыл бұрын
That how steam always has been.
@muxman3132
@muxman3132 Жыл бұрын
@@cssplayer91 No, it's a deb package through apt. It's just not the actual client. It's an installer that runs and installs the full program from steam. That way debian doesn't have to keep up with every new version of steam. They just give you a way to install it and then steam keeps it up to date.
@steveyuhas9278
@steveyuhas9278 Жыл бұрын
12 days ago you posted this 12 things to do in Debian 12 and I started watching this at 12pm. Weird lol. Thanks for the video!!
@NOPerative
@NOPerative Жыл бұрын
Frozen Bubble is addicting! FYI Installing Debian 12 from the Live Environment sets up sudo automatically but if you use the Debian Installer from the GRUB menu it only sets su. If you only have su you can still authenticate then issue sudo commands until you exit su; you can also change your account type from standard to Administrator and after logging out and back in or rebooting you can now use sudo (settings > users > your user profile). Have verified this with Debian 12 Cinnamon and KDE Plasma desktop environments. You can install downloaded deb packages with gdebi by double clicking the package or right clicking and select open with then picking gdebi; all packages installed with gdebi can be found (normally) in the '/opt' directory. You can clean up your system after a package removal with 'sudo apt autoremove' for a dust free Debian. Awesome video BTW! It was nice to see you so happy. Kind of stoked about Debian finally touching down; have been waiting two decades for Debian to make a splash and it's finally happened.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 Жыл бұрын
It's the satisfying sounds.
@NOPerative
@NOPerative Жыл бұрын
@@wayland7150 The music is hypnotizing. Nothing audible is obnoxious - totally agree. The tunes of the game are a big draw for me as well. 👍
@adanz17
@adanz17 Жыл бұрын
26:07 the list of packages is not actually included in the blog post so here it is: libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk3 libreoffice-help-common libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-style-colibre libreoffice-style-elementary
@WebDesignSecurity
@WebDesignSecurity Жыл бұрын
I knew there would be at least one thoughtful person like myself! I was about to post this myself after seeing it was NOT included in the blog post that Jay mentioned. Thanks @adanz17
@eparker1022
@eparker1022 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial, thank you! There are a couple of things about synaptic that you may want to add... 1. After installing synaptic, install apt-xapian-index, then restart X (or reboot). Open synaptic and you'll have a quick filter field in the menu bar. Type in your search term (you might also want to select All on the left), hit Enter and it will bring up packages where the search string is found. It's probably trivial but now you don't have to open the search window. YMMV but I find it to be a lot more convenient. 2. You can click on the Packages header and toggle between ascending- and descending-sort. Makes it much easier to find what you're looking for.
@jimmyrichards5595
@jimmyrichards5595 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aarongibbs3838
@aarongibbs3838 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are an amazing instructor. This was an exceptional tutorial! Not only do you provide the 'how' but you give us the 'why'. So many instructors leave that out.
@smudge0161
@smudge0161 Жыл бұрын
This is great news. Hopefully Jay will write a Debian Server book. His Ubuntu Server books are excellent and I think the community would benefit from a well written guide to Debian Server.
@Dom_Mason
@Dom_Mason Жыл бұрын
My favorite distro! Can't wait to upgrade to Debian 12 now that it is released and stable. Thanks my friend for all you do here. Love your content! ❣
@slyvaughan5808
@slyvaughan5808 10 ай бұрын
Just a note that its probably worth installing nvidia-detect and using it before installing the nvidia-driver.
@lxlDmitry
@lxlDmitry Жыл бұрын
26:00 sudo apt remove libreoffice-*
@mrsmithsmith8418
@mrsmithsmith8418 Жыл бұрын
@LearnLinuxTV Don't forget to make a video on keeping flatpak programs up to date like for security updates, as apt-get update and apt-get upgrade won't update flatpak programs at default when initialized.
@tostadorafuriosa69
@tostadorafuriosa69 8 ай бұрын
sudo flatpak update
@LillyAnarkitty
@LillyAnarkitty Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to future flatpak videos on this channel! Flatpaks seem cool but they clearly have a bit of a learning curve
@U1TR4F0RCE
@U1TR4F0RCE Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m curious about the system vs user flatpak situation since after watching the bash series I wanted to make a script to install everything I need but want to do it properly.
@Ben-hg3bz
@Ben-hg3bz Жыл бұрын
I had to install VLC in flatpak because the VLC version from Debian repositories doesn't work with RTSP streams.
@clivewiddus3953
@clivewiddus3953 Жыл бұрын
The only down side I have found id the Gnome package manager is not very stable, but of course you can use the KDE one, or the command line tools. Just as a personal comment I would add #13 my user to the sudoers group so you can use sudo and not have to go to root.
@Spacial_
@Spacial_ Жыл бұрын
Just installed debian on my laptop yesterday. I loved the fact that it lets you choose the DE instead of a pre configured option. I tried switching on kubuntu once and it was a mess. Uninstalling kde fucked up all sorts of things and i had to reinstall the whole OS. Ill admit i lacked the knowledge to fix it, but having a choice out of the gate is sweet, specially when you can just toggle your option and its ready to go.
@jamespleger752
@jamespleger752 Жыл бұрын
In my own experience, at least, having multiple DEs is not a good idea; I have never been able to get it to work without problems on real hardware. Just because you CAN do something does not mean you SHOULD. Better to carefully choose one DE you like, and then stick with it. Deb 12 was no different; I tried installing a second DE (LXQt), using tasksel just as Jay suggested, and it had so many problems I had to back it out. Fortunately, the original DE (Cinnamon) still works.
@Spacial_
@Spacial_ Жыл бұрын
@@jamespleger752 yep, totally agree. Now if i wanna test some other DE, i’ll install a new OS on a different drive and go from there. I guess i learnt it the hard way hehe
@sixdroid
@sixdroid Жыл бұрын
you installed kubuntu then Uninstalled kde? lol
@joshmartin8856
@joshmartin8856 Жыл бұрын
Doesnt 'apt dist-upgrade' upgrade packages for the latest repo based on the version defined in the apt config, not the current distro version? Shouldnt this be 'apt upgrade' unless you are in the process of moving to testing/unstable distros?
@pcallycat9043
@pcallycat9043 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video, but, re: thunderbird vs evolution, not only does evolution work better in exchange server environments, but it also correctly authenticates with apple services for mail/reminders/calendars, and is the only linux client i've found that will do this.
@montecorbit8280
@montecorbit8280 10 ай бұрын
But I'm not sure about is if you need to mess with KDE's software library if you install KDE, or one of the other desktops....
@CampRusso
@CampRusso Жыл бұрын
=\ any reason to not install chrome thru the software app now that I have flatpak added?
@SphereS7
@SphereS7 Жыл бұрын
It's a simple variable export to make Firefox run under Wayland and not XWayland (which you should do anyway for performance sake). You can even do it so that it falls back to X11 if you ever switch to it at any time. Don't know why this isn't the default yet.
@polnyjj
@polnyjj Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I'm newbie and didn't know this. Ram usage of firefox decreased significantly.
@SphereS7
@SphereS7 Жыл бұрын
@@Fracture1603 You can also do it in ~/.profile to avoid doing things as root.
@jwiz2974
@jwiz2974 Жыл бұрын
Another thing among the first things 'to-do' is to set up and configure a virt environment for running non-distro python software packages, as this is now a requirement with the Bookworm release. Strangely most linux youtubers miss out on that.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
Link to this being official and not just your opinion
@mikechappell4156
@mikechappell4156 Жыл бұрын
Since when do updates require a restart? Unless you're updating the kernel.
@synen
@synen 5 ай бұрын
BTW the commands to remove Libre Office completely are missing in the blog post. Thank you Jay.
@buriedbits6027
@buriedbits6027 2 ай бұрын
This video is excellent! Well paced and you cover everything in detail which is great because I am relatively new to Linux in general. 😊
@peterjansen4826
@peterjansen4826 Жыл бұрын
I used both vlc and mpv on Linux, for 'recent' AMD-GPU's mpv works much better, vlc has some big problems with those GPU's. I also noticed stability-problems with vlc (crashing when opening a new video from an open instance), this is not just on my system, I heard other people (Chris Titus Tech) point it out too. I had the same video run much better on mpv than vlc. mpv is a great videoplayer with bad marketing, it currently is superior to vlc but most Linux-users and Windows-users don't know how to properly set it up.
@jimmyrichards5595
@jimmyrichards5595 Жыл бұрын
Just an fyi; For someone that doesn't know how to use mpv very well there are some nice GUI front-ends for it, such as SMPlayer and Celluloid.
@folksurvival
@folksurvival Жыл бұрын
MPV is the best media player.
@dcwaku
@dcwaku 8 ай бұрын
Very helpful video. I just started with Linux and was using Mint, but I moved to Debian since I will only be using Linux for certain things and I want a stable platform. Your video was more helpful than most of what's out there. I subscribed. Thanks.
@thisweblabvideos
@thisweblabvideos Жыл бұрын
Amazing news. As a long time debian as primary OS user. I like these news. Debian is by far the best piece of softare i have used. I have zero issiues ever. I use stable apps on it. On workstation I use gnome, on laptop KDE ... all works seemless. Completely uneventfull and pleasureable experience. Hearing its has gotten better is hard to beleive but good to hear. I do not tend to upgrade that soon (workstation is still on buster, and laptop on bullseye) ... but this one sounds like a moment I should do that. Have fun with your transition ... I expect you will use it long time.
@aerosmythe5077
@aerosmythe5077 9 ай бұрын
Awesome help with plenty of detail . It's hard to find help of this quality . Thank you !
@aoldatabase
@aoldatabase 7 ай бұрын
I was struggling so hard to install the propreitary nvidia drivers but you made it so easy. you got a fan for life now that was life saving!
@kosodrzewinka
@kosodrzewinka 4 ай бұрын
Hey Jay. The link to the article on yout page doesn't seem to work...
@zaki21435
@zaki21435 5 ай бұрын
For anyone using gmail with thunderbird make sure that you use IMAP instead POP( which is selected by default), since POP doesn't sync when Emails are read.
@flow5718
@flow5718 Жыл бұрын
I'm on LMDE 5 and am seriously considering going back to Debian. The 12 release looks awesome, wasn't a big fan of the 11 release with the outdated GNOME desktop.
@vk5932
@vk5932 Жыл бұрын
I am going to try Dibian 12 soon, that's why I'm here, very clear and straight forward for our new to linux user, I've always want to learn how to add extra repository in linux, the way you gave true to life example just excellent, Thanks
@buriedbits6027
@buriedbits6027 2 ай бұрын
31:43 I understand that at this point, you’re going to install the NVIDIA video driver and the proprietary software. I know I could use Google to figure this out, so it’s kind of a silly question in itself. But my criticism here is that the GUI interface you’re using to install applications doesn’t really identify scenarios like needing to install an NVIDIA driver or drivers for other hardware devices. In most other operating systems-let’s take Windows as an example-the OS can detect hardware and present the user with the information that a device is present and that drivers should be installed. With Linux, it seems like the OS isn’t aware of the hardware in the same way, or if it is, it doesn’t present that knowledge to the user. I think this is an area where Linux falls short and doesn’t quite fill the gap. macOS is a bit different because it has kernel extensions (KEXTs) that are pre-built for various hardware configurations, given Apple’s more controlled hardware environment. I’m not sure what the experience is like on a Mac Pro, where users can install PCI cards, but for most Macs, it’s more streamlined. I know Linux is great for what it is, and being free software, it’s impressive. But I think there could be improvements in how it handles hardware detection and driver installation. Of course, this isn’t something you can control directly, but it’s feedback I would give to whoever develops Linux.
@fixer1140
@fixer1140 Жыл бұрын
Hello Jay, could you make a video about how to purge snap packs out of Ubuntu and install flatpacks only? Gotta love this channel
@hackerman.1337
@hackerman.1337 Жыл бұрын
They made it impossible to remove it's always gone be there partly use Debian.
@fixer1140
@fixer1140 Жыл бұрын
@@hackerman.1337 that's a joke, right? Come on, just say that's a joke. By the way, Hello friend...
@fixer1140
@fixer1140 Жыл бұрын
@@hackerman.1337 thanks for the explanation. Basically every now and then I make some tests on a virtual machine running Ubuntu and I prefer flatpacks over snaps. Guess I'll try with this new Debian releas. Thanks again.
@yigitorhan7654
@yigitorhan7654 Жыл бұрын
​​@@fixer1140If you don't mind using the Cinnamon desktop environment or installing another one, Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu and disables snaps in favor of flatpak by default. I have never tried using another desktop environment on Mint though so Debian 12 is a solid choice if you don't want to use Cinnamon.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 Жыл бұрын
If you have to gut Ubuntu to that extent maybe it's time to use a different Distro? You're like the people who use Windows but hate everything about it which makes it Windows. When you're fighting that hard against your OS it's time to switch.
@tridens6708
@tridens6708 8 ай бұрын
Thank as New Linux user this was a God send adding the extra software repository and desktop easy to follow 😊❤
@abod2745
@abod2745 Ай бұрын
6:32 if you choose the cinnamon version, also install the second package
@kapiell2999
@kapiell2999 Жыл бұрын
thank you sir your videos are really helpful
@jamesbryant837
@jamesbryant837 Жыл бұрын
Just downloaded Debian 12 bookworm as a new user. Your vid helped me walk through setup with minor hiccups. Only lingering question is on adding the backport repository. Don't yet know how to use the clipboard so I could not complete this task. Great video.
@mebeingme947
@mebeingme947 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Regarding backports, I thought this would also be indicated in synaptic for the package as second option if I recall correctly. Where I had issues though was on installing firefox from flatpak that it crashed randomly. Found out that Firefox has hardware accelaration enabled by default however the flatpak config had it disabled. Enabled it in flatseal and problems gone. Other option is ofcourse to disable it in Firefox itself. This might be helpful for others running into the same issue.
@chuckevans2792
@chuckevans2792 10 ай бұрын
TYVM
@ManuelJordan317
@ManuelJordan317 2 ай бұрын
Huge thanks for this video!
@buriedbits6027
@buriedbits6027 2 ай бұрын
17:29 I know that you have your script but I would have like to see evolution, the email client. That’s ok I can open it once I install Debian. 😊
@albussd
@albussd Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for making the content. One question - you installed some apps by downloading .deb packages from offocial website, while installed others as Flatpak. For instance, you could have installed firefox directly through the .deb from Mozilla's official website but chose Flatpak. Why so? Is there any technical reason? I was thinking that maybe installing the official .deb provided by the software company, if it's available, would be preferable to installing a Flatpak version. Please enlighten. Cheers.
@arkeynserhayn8370
@arkeynserhayn8370 9 ай бұрын
Are you still around?
@albussd
@albussd 9 ай бұрын
@@arkeynserhayn8370 Yes, I am.
@HarpicBoy
@HarpicBoy 9 ай бұрын
Want to know more about this too.
@arkeynserhayn8370
@arkeynserhayn8370 9 ай бұрын
@@HarpicBoy It depends on the type of software: 1. Deb provided by distro 2. Deb provided by software company (aka "upstream"), which once you install it, it adds its remote repository to your APT. 3. Flatpak version. Usually, you shouldn't be installing packages from a repository other than your distro, for example you should install debian firefox not the one provided by mozilla, as it is tailored for your distribution. Then comes the second problem, that when software in your distro repo is outdated (or is on prior LTS release), for example debian stable, so if you want newer versions, you should install the flatpak version, (so it comes with its own libraries); And finally, there are rare instances when you know a particular software is better installed in a particular way, for example vivaldi, which is not in distro repo (it is not fully open-source) and the flatpak version seemingly have weaker sandboxing, so the best way to install it is by their own website, and getting your consequent upgrades from their repo. Ok, as rule of thumb: Install a software from your repo. (If its a chromium based browser and it is not in the repo, install it from their website) If native "deb" has a problem, install the flatpak, If flatpak one has a problem install the one from website. Distro deb > flatpak > 3rd party deb.
@HarpicBoy
@HarpicBoy 9 ай бұрын
@@arkeynserhayn8370 Thanks for your insight. Coming from windows the option of using 3rd party deb files seems more intuitive to me. I will try to use distro repo and flatpak primarily, for learning and getting used to linux environment. But say If I chose to download something from 3rd party, will I be "breaking" something big in the distro to a point I run into trouble or will I be good for the most part, as long the deb file is coming from a reliable source and not some random website. (like valve, mozilla, etc.)
@name-kx9qc
@name-kx9qc 6 ай бұрын
it took me a while but i finally found a proper tutorial on installing the nvidia driver, thank you sir, you earned a subscriber (new linux user btw) for whatever reason every single tutorial out there that i found just doesnt mention having to tick those two options in the gnome apps store
@Destide
@Destide Жыл бұрын
Best Frozen Bubble video I've ever seen thanks
@kuhluhOG
@kuhluhOG 8 ай бұрын
Since this is also a channel for SysAdmins, here a small please about switching to root: Please use "sudo -s" instead of "su - root", "su" or "su root" and set up the logging properly. The reason for that is simple, "sudo -s" can be configured to log who did which commands and when. The others don't. So when you work together as a team of SysAdmins, you can look up who did what as root without any downside besides that the logfiles could become quite large. You can even let it log the inputs and outputs of each command.
@JarppaGuru
@JarppaGuru Жыл бұрын
30:23 its that easy choose flavor. waiting day when distros are just themes
@francistheron2263
@francistheron2263 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Saved me from headaches and sleepless nights. Almost wiped Debian and installed Windows back on this system. In my mind I made it so much more complicated that it really was. 👍
@Riurelia
@Riurelia 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad I found this video. I just installed Debian on a new computer. My aspect ration was set to 4:3 even though I have a 16:9 monitor. It turns out I just needed to install the Nvidia drivers.
@BobCollins42
@BobCollins42 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned (and demonstrated) a Gnome extension for flathub. Is there an extension for Plasma?
@Another_Bad_Creation
@Another_Bad_Creation Жыл бұрын
Does Debian installation give the option to install the OS with out the extra software.
@Voodoo_S3
@Voodoo_S3 Жыл бұрын
Depends what you mean by 'extra software' do you consider the desktop environment and file manager extra software? For a minimal desktop I'd deselect "standard system utilities" and probably "Debian desktop environment" and select DE of choice (if you want a DE) during installation and that should give you a pretty minimal desktop installation; there will still probably be a fair amount of extra software installed by the DE but it's fast and easy to remove unwanted software through package manager. If you don't want a desktop just deselect everything during install.
@jesse7631
@jesse7631 Жыл бұрын
You mean the additional 83 games included with the GNOME environment? I'm afraid not.
@АлексейШилин-д1ф
@АлексейШилин-д1ф Жыл бұрын
You can deselect all DEs when asked and end up in console-only system. Then just use apt to install e.g. gnome-core or even more minimal gnome-session package. Beware of the latter though: you'll get no file manager, no text editor, no terminal -- nothing, as minimal as it goes.
@hrmf32
@hrmf32 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@marksulloway5669
@marksulloway5669 Жыл бұрын
Peppermint OS will give you a stripped down Debian 12 install. @@Voodoo_S3
@RNMSC
@RNMSC Жыл бұрын
While I do have the root account enabled on my Debian systems, I prefer to use sudo commands for updating and installing things, simply because there are situations where I may step away from my computer while an update is happening, and if the update finishes, or aborts out, the ability to sudo may still be available, but in general I'm not leaving a terminal open with root privileges for any kitty cat to walk across the keyboard and randomly rm -rf the system.
@a500
@a500 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Having been in windows or Mac since Solaris 7, it was daunting trying to return to linux, this was clear and well paced, giving me a nice desktop in the process.
@KFRogers263
@KFRogers263 2 ай бұрын
I switched to Ubuntu sheesh...over 10yrs ago. Mainly run XFCE. Now I wonder, why I'm not running base Debian. seems like I get more bang for the "buck". Nice reviews on this. Thanks
@tomaszkonicz
@tomaszkonicz Жыл бұрын
shodn't it be rather "sudo apt upgrade", when updating software after the "sudo apt update"? Why "sudo apt dist-upgrade"?
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 Жыл бұрын
One gets the latest for the current version of the OS where the other will actually upgrade the OS to a newer version. That's how I comprehend it. I always use apt upgrade.
@deus_nsf
@deus_nsf Жыл бұрын
Something very important that should be said: proprietary Nvidia drivers will break Wayland desktop rendering, so if your desktop environment relies on Wayland, you have to chose a non Wayland renderer of that same desktop, or an other desktop alltogether, otherwise you will not be able to log in anymore.
@YannikaLuvz
@YannikaLuvz Жыл бұрын
I'm a little concerned now, since I'm fairly new to Linux and I'll be using Nvidia proprietary drivers. I have no idea what Wayland is or how to change renderes, hopefully it all goes well and if it doesn't, guess I'll just have to learn some new stuff. Thanks for the heads-up!
@deus_nsf
@deus_nsf Жыл бұрын
​@@YannikaLuvz don't be afraid, Linux is a cool experience, it's going to be frustrating and painful though, but what isn't? :) 2 very important tips that aren't given in this video (well they actually are I just double checked but it's not very clear), by default Debian doesn't grant you root access, to use the "sudo" command you have to add yourself to the root admin priviledges list, there's a pretty simple command you can easily find on the internet to do that (completely restart the computer after that, just log out won't be enough). The second tip is that, there will basically be 2 main sources of software, debian repo, and flathub repo, sometimes both work, I recommend the debian repo first for more stability, but if the software doesn't work or only partially work, uninstall it and switch to the flathub repo to have a flatpak version of the software you're looking for. It's a bit dodgy at the moment, probably because the distro basically just came out, but it's not the end of the world and will probably get much better quickly with updates :) Oh and to answer your question, Wayland is a special type of desktop renderer, but don't worry Gnome and Plasma to name those both have non Wayland based fallbacks, it's not ideal to be honest though and Nvidia is being kind of a dick about it, it's really long overdue that they open source their driver stack...
@sixdroid
@sixdroid Жыл бұрын
don't use Linux if you have Nvidia. runs good with Intel gpu and amd
@sixdroid
@sixdroid Жыл бұрын
@@deus_nsf it's not frustrating just if you have Nvidia gpu
@smibssmibs
@smibssmibs Жыл бұрын
I have attempted to follow the advice to use the latest Firefox from flatpak, but it broke my integration with KeePassXC so I went back to Firefox ESR, which shall be "good enough" for real usage.
@julian.morgan
@julian.morgan Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of stability and would always choose it over instability with rolling releases - I had a miserable time with Manjaro for example - but at the same time a distro that releases with applications that even the application's devs recommend updating (Libre Office) seems a bit absurdly over cautious? Or is it more about lack of organsation? If the latter that's perhaps a bit more worrying as I wonder what else they might have missed, at least on the desktop as I'd assume most of the testing and double-checking is aimed at Debian server? Would it be fair to say that Linux Mint is a better balance between being stable and reasomably up to date? Any downsides compared to Debian and just adding what you need as per Jay's tutorial?
@cmdrnova
@cmdrnova 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! I just moved from Windows 11 (crap) to Debian 12 (sweet) and this helped a lot
@gid3on
@gid3on 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the difference between software from Deb and Flatpak. Now - when removing the deb-versions and installing the Flatpak versions, what will happen to settings? Will they be recognized by the new installs? Ie. will Thunderbird read the mail accounts already in the system?
@MichaelProcario
@MichaelProcario Жыл бұрын
I am a long time Debian user, but the info on changing desktop environments and flatpaks was quite useful. I think flatpaks will be great for getting up to date software without constantly updating the whole system. You use the terminal enough you consider putting on the dock.
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting how some software like Libre Office benefits from being very up to date where as a text editor is probably better if it never changes. It's a shame that so many tweaks are needed to get Debian 12 into shape. I feel that Mint requires none of these. I will be installing this today and trying Plasma Wayland.
@narwhal4304
@narwhal4304 Жыл бұрын
@@wayland7150 While true, Debian is a distro you setup once and then run it for at least 2 years before upgrading, so setting it up isn't a big deal long term IMHO.
@erickleefeld4883
@erickleefeld4883 Жыл бұрын
The running theme here: Debian 12 is an excellent version that solves so many of their long-running problems with hardware support out of the box, and you can seriously use it as a daily driver - but also, you should absolutely replace as many of the graphical user programs as you can with the Flatpak versions. Let each part be true to itself, Debian as your core OS and Flathub as your applications source.
@amortalbeing
@amortalbeing Жыл бұрын
isn't the flatpack version much slower?
@jr2375
@jr2375 Жыл бұрын
I think that overlooks a great deal of the actual point of Debian stable. If I had $1 for every KZbinr who understood what "stable" means in a software setting, I couldn't get myself a cup of coffee.
@popobart
@popobart Жыл бұрын
a coffee machine maybe...@@jr2375
@SukhjinderBajwa
@SukhjinderBajwa Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay for yet another nice tutorial!
@abdelilah_hmidani
@abdelilah_hmidani Жыл бұрын
21:08 I think using ppa beats of Deb package 📦 to update all time
@HermannKerr
@HermannKerr Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I started with Debian years ago (4 floppy disk install) in a commercial environment and I got into using other distributions, The one I am using now irritates me a bit from their last upgrade. I have to admit I whined a bit about Debian as well because it was so conservative but I loved that it was so rock solid stable. I have to admit I know nothing about Flatpacks, so I have a bit of a learning curve.
@ferfykins
@ferfykins Жыл бұрын
Does debian 12 come with pre-configured/installed apparmor and ufw firewall?
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 Жыл бұрын
not sure about apparmor but ufw doesn't come pre-installed
@jamespleger752
@jamespleger752 11 ай бұрын
GUFW, the graphical version of ufw, is available in Synaptic Package Manager. You must install it yourself; it is not-preinstalled. This definitely should have been included in his 12 things to do after installing Debian 12; more important than some of the other things he mentioned.
@VishnuVardhanS
@VishnuVardhanS Жыл бұрын
Hi is it possible to upgrade Debian 12 to Gnome 44?
@John-wx6wj
@John-wx6wj Жыл бұрын
14:20 is there a difference between using apt remove firefox-esr vs. apt purge firefox-esr? What about adding the flag --autoremove?
@hackerman.1337
@hackerman.1337 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there is a difference between using apt remove and apt purge commands in Ubuntu or Debian-based systems, and using the --autoremove flag can further impact the outcome. apt remove firefox-esr: This command removes the specified package (firefox-esr in this case) from your system. However, it leaves behind the configuration files and other associated data that may have been created during the package's installation. These files can be useful if you plan to reinstall the package later or if you want to preserve any custom configurations you made. apt purge firefox-esr: This command not only removes the package (firefox-esr) but also removes any associated configuration files and data. It performs a more thorough removal, effectively reverting the system to its pre-installation state. If you plan to reinstall the package, using apt purge ensures that any previously modified configurations are also removed. --autoremove flag: When used in conjunction with apt remove or apt purge, the --autoremove flag automatically removes any additional packages that were installed as dependencies but are no longer needed by other packages on your system. This helps to keep your system clean by removing unnecessary dependencies. It is a good practice to use --autoremove after removing packages, especially if you no longer need the dependencies. In summary, apt remove is a basic package removal command, apt purge performs a more thorough removal by deleting associated configuration files, and --autoremove removes any orphaned dependencies.
@John-wx6wj
@John-wx6wj Жыл бұрын
@@hackerman.1337 thank you 🙏 that was really helpful!
@nickdaves3467
@nickdaves3467 Жыл бұрын
​@@hackerman.1337this is plain copy-paste of chatgpt answer...
@hackerman.1337
@hackerman.1337 Жыл бұрын
@@nickdaves3467 how did you know?
@hrmf32
@hrmf32 Жыл бұрын
man apt
@johnfratacci6468
@johnfratacci6468 Ай бұрын
new, learning on Linux, just have a question wen you add a bookworm how you saved like seed on video
@ManuelJordan317
@ManuelJordan317 2 ай бұрын
Why at 03:55 was possible use the sudo command? When was added your main user to the /etc/sudoers file?
@westcijosh
@westcijosh Жыл бұрын
very good work you are doing bro
@igrewold
@igrewold Жыл бұрын
Great idea J to talk about after installation tweaks
@1monki
@1monki Жыл бұрын
Can tasksel save a log of what it installed when adding a desktop environment?
@hrmf32
@hrmf32 Жыл бұрын
Yes, tasksel can save a log of what it installed when adding a desktop environment. To do this, you need to specify the -l or --log option when running the tasksel.
@1monki
@1monki Жыл бұрын
@@hrmf32 Cool, thanks 👍
@davidanderson2436
@davidanderson2436 Жыл бұрын
Kinda sad there is no Debian sticker on that laptop🙄- great video - thanks for all you do! I always install just XFCE4 desktop and always have to add my user to the sudo list as one of my first things - really surprised the Gnome or Desktop does it automatically? have to agree 100% this is by far the best Debian XFCE4 i've experienced this far, very clean, simple install and everything just worked. Thanks again
@JarppaGuru
@JarppaGuru Жыл бұрын
33:47 and they work so long as nothing is updated and drivers stop working and drivers go back to default. bcoz nvidia not yet make drivers for 0.0.1 version you wanted update
@spielp
@spielp Жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video. Much appreciated.
@calholli
@calholli 2 ай бұрын
Why would anyone use other distros other than this one? It looks great and it works. What is the benefit of using something like cachy or nobara vs this? They all blurr together and look the same (if you use KDE on all of them). So what is the real distinction?
@NeftisIsHere
@NeftisIsHere 4 ай бұрын
you got the reason wrong, your voice relaxes me and help me sleep hahahah
@GManWrites
@GManWrites 11 ай бұрын
39.45 you said save the file? How did you save the file, what did you do to save it?
@jsnovais1000
@jsnovais1000 8 ай бұрын
Excellent work!
@s.b.asokadissanayake4276
@s.b.asokadissanayake4276 Жыл бұрын
VLC is and was my favorite multimedia application for decades. If came as a default application. It can be installed from Synaptic package manager.
@MyReviews_karkan
@MyReviews_karkan Жыл бұрын
Is there an upgrade tool on Debian to upgrade between major versions? Or do you have to reinstall every time?
@ronheetman564
@ronheetman564 Жыл бұрын
I checked out the blog post for copying the commands for removing the libreoffice suite leftovers, but could not find it there. Could you please put them there or below this video?
@bintangazharr
@bintangazharr Жыл бұрын
sudo apt remove libreoffic*
@lewchishelltaya5745
@lewchishelltaya5745 8 ай бұрын
Great job on this. I'd love to see a video on how to get Guacamole working on Linux and Windows. Trying to get setup for my parents sake because they always need help. Every video I've seen about it is very convoluted and you need to learn 3 other programs or sign up for something elsewhere.
@jeffsmith6659
@jeffsmith6659 3 ай бұрын
Debian newbie here ... Is there a technical reason why you chose x11 for Plasma over Wayland. I've found tons of opinions on the subject, but no clean kill from a technical aspect. Thank you!
@TheJason13
@TheJason13 3 ай бұрын
For me, Fedora with Wayland doesn't have any screen tearing when there's a lot of action going on. X11 had a lot of it. I was used to it, but never knew why, til I found out about Wayland. X11 is way better for remoting into a Linux machine vs Wayland. RustDesk, for example, doens't have full support for Wayland, but X11 works just fine. Hope that answers some or all of your question(s).
@jeffsmith6659
@jeffsmith6659 3 ай бұрын
@@TheJason13 awesome, thank you!
Жыл бұрын
I like this channel, reminds me of Wizard car mechanic. Such a peaceful way to talk :)
@s.b.asokadissanayake4276
@s.b.asokadissanayake4276 Жыл бұрын
DVD 1 has all the desktop types installed in one go. At log in time one can choose one of the 8 desktops.
@HarmonicClockwork
@HarmonicClockwork Жыл бұрын
This is so helpful, and makes a lot of things clear
@ViikramSiingh777
@ViikramSiingh777 Жыл бұрын
awesome video thanks for sharing
@4thWardTechnology
@4thWardTechnology 7 ай бұрын
really great, I am enjoying debian 12. feels way more smooth that my last distro lmde
@PhinAI
@PhinAI Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thank you!
@MYNAME_ABC
@MYNAME_ABC Жыл бұрын
All you do is replace debian packages by flathub ones, thus running into the issue of external drives not being unmountable after flathub apps closing. This is not the app's fault, but a flatpak container concept issue. A nasty one.
@johnphamlore8073
@johnphamlore8073 2 ай бұрын
You taught this old dog a few tricks. Well done.
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