THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER | Episode 5 - "Truth" | Reaction

[@cantgetriight]

You'd be surprised what us black folks don;'t do because we feel like we shouldn't. Not just because of what white people would think, but our own community. I remember as a kid I wanted to play hockey because I was really good at skating and I was constantly teased by my cousins about there not being any black NHL players(which I knew wasn't true). Then I remember going to a hockey game with my buddy who played hockey and not seeing any black players on either team and felt like my cousins were right. It's not that race matters, but not everyone wants to be the trailblazer and have all eyes on them for being the "first" anything. I understand why Sam would be scared to take up the mantle, because America can be fickle when it comes to matters like that. (Referring to your argument at 25:25 )

[@cantgetriight]

Also, speaking for myself of course, I am hyper-aware when I'm the only black person in a place at a given time. And I'm usually really relieved if there's at least one black person around or happens to show up. I don't approach them, but at least you know one person will have your back if people decide to be racist. Being black is hella uncomfortable sometimes because people can hide their rhetoric and ideas, but I can't hide my skin.

[@earthzero7]

@UCf-PvMobDW3cvKbFuMyQfzQ EfYou Man... I'm sure you see what I did there...

[@TerrellMcDuffie]

@@cantgetriight To your original statement, well said. People who aren't black have no idea how even doing the simplest thing has to be thought through, due circumstances we didn't create.

[@kostiplays]

Can't understand that since I live in Brazil

[@feitan8745]

@@kostiplays Brasil is still shit with matters addressing race and other subjects like gender, religion and so on.

[@flowr7068]

Fun fact. The story Isaiah told about saving those soldiers, is the same thing that Steve did in the first Captain America movie. The only difference is that Steve was praised for his heroics while Isaiah was put in jail

[@frostydesnowman]

oh yeah i didnt realize..Nice catch Edit: Achara mentioned it too

[@hbhatt]

Not really, those soldiers Isaiah saved were experimented on and had the super soldier serum. They just didn't want people finding out about that.

[@KallenSC]

Not the same, Steve release american soldiers from nazi prison(hydra) Isaiah break US law, even if he do it right thing. Same Did Steve breaking out Sam, Scott, Clint and Wanda from Raft. So Cap was still criminal after that. Isaiah had no chance to doing something big, which allows he be free man and be a Hero for general audience.

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

Don’t try to compare those situations

[@pedrovizcarra5520]

@@ihavenocommonsensebut2008 he already did, there's nothing you can do about it :D

[@CrazyMantriOfficial]

Falcon cleaning that blood and crying at the same time, WOW!!! Get This Man "THE Shield!"

[@ivanvillanueva9092]

@@tejas3839 hardly innocent

[@shubhayukolay9609]

@Pik-A-Boo Yep, you're right.. So going by your logic, Steve Rogers killing a bunch of Nazi soldiers with the shield (who by the way, were in fact the followers of a rogue Nazi organization) is equal to John Walker killing an unarmed man in public with full rage. Not to forget the fact that Captain Rogers did not kill anyone with that shield on screen, neither he used it as a weapon. it was an accessory which helped him knock people out and was primarily used by him to protect himself.

[@IceMetalPunk]

@Pik-A-Boo Nico (a) never killed anyone as far as we know, (b) definitely didn't kill Lemar, (c) was unarmed, surrendering, and begging for his life. You think that's equivalent to a Nazi shooting at Cap?

[@lalithakota9593]

did not notice that he was crying

[@itz_yeastic]

yeszz

[@ttta_raiodosol]

Bucky was apologizing for him and steves ignorance on how a black man will not easily be accepted for being captain America. its not about him giving him a hard time, just that they didn't consider the weight or the pressure the mantle would have on Sam's life.

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

They are guys from the 40s after all, so they didn't really consider the racial and social complications because they just saw Sam as a good dude. The writers continue to do an excellent job with these characters.

[@Doomer253]

exactly!

[@0._m_.0]

Coming from Bucky it was even more sad because he was up and about as the Winter soldier while Steve was frozen shut off from the change and apartheid and all that stuff. Bucky was a live witness and still he didn’t get it. That was so frustrating to even see as an audience. It was uplifting to see him finally apologising and understanding the colored situation.

[@thermicterror2951]

@@0._m_.0 I mean they let bucky out of cryo to kill people and then they put him back in cryo. He didn't exactly have a life or control of his mind while he was with hydra so he was probably unaware of that stuff too.

[@0._m_.0]

@@thermicterror2951 but his time with the Wakanda-lady (forgot her name) shows he remembered all of the time he was awake, so it made sense to me kinda.. Well considering what you said, maybe i am not fully right but you see, in that episode it felt like that he knew the times he was living in and was kind of ignorant or something... You know.... Just a thought... Maybe its just me, knowing about the shared past of the British rule and colonizer terrors, i kinda related to Sam's situation... So maybe my perspective was a bit off..🙂

[@treylee7791]

Cap’s an athletic and acrobatic guy, so I think it makes sense showing Sam doing some flips and whatnot even though it looks useless. Lol

[@Doomer253]

Agree and really if you think about it Sam has flight, those flips actually makes sense for air combat.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

The flips and all that are also good in potentially acclimating his fighting style and strategy when he uses both his wings and shield in tandem.

[@mithunpv662]

4:05 He's Swinging right arm, not the left. Shield was in his left hand

[@matthewanderson3506]

Bucky in episode two “why’d u give up the shield...” Sam responded with “I did what I thought was right.”Knowing Bucky and Steve wouldn’t understand... Bucky proceeded to say “maybe he was wrong about you” it was right for him to apologize.

[@HamnatPenaya]

Exactly. That entire scene was related to the therapy scene from episode 2. It was exactly what the counselor was trying to get them to do. Open up to each other. Bucky started to in episode 2. But, Sam left it with Steve and you (Bucky) may never understand. Meaning the additional challenges and considerations Sam as a black man has to have. Bucky's apology is only an acknowledgement of that. He was only seeing how it made him feel and trying to be protective of Steve.

[@thegibberishsinger]

During the couple therapy scene Sam says "Neither Steve nor you'll understand why he did what he did" and Bucky was relating all the Shield matter from his own perspective and not connecting the things he must've heard in Wakanda and after coming to this world. He came to terms with all the information only after confronting Zemo. My take on that Sorry scene.

[@CarlosEduardo-iw9jr]

Exactly

[@pungkuss]

Jaby keeps saying "the french guy".... That's GSP (Georges St Pierre), one of the greatest UFC fighters of all time. Super proud French Canadian, and overall amazing person.

[@lionelt7882]

Julia Louis Dreyfus is playing Valentina aka Madam Hydra in the comics. In the MCU, she’s basically going to be an evil version of Nick Fury and going to recruit anti-heros/villains to form a team. Possibly Thunderbolts

[@parsman9914]

She used to be Fury's lover too.

[@AmeerahMuhammad]

Sam literally touched on one of the reasons why he didn’t keep the shield was him being black during the therapist scene at the police station. And Bucky “not contributing” is debatable. I think he made he it all about his own viewpoint. That Sam was wrong. And perhaps taking a moment to see the full scope of the multiple reasons of why Sam didn’t take up the shield needed to be addressed. Also I think it made sense for how these characters relate to each other that it wasn’t this huge apology moment. Then people would have complained that it was too heavy-handed.

[@phivanle7]

10000%

[@jalinsvision]

he apologized because sam didn’t take the shield earlier in the show and kept bugging him about it. sam literally said He thought what he did was right (not taking the shield) and this is right after the isaiah scene. He’s apologizing for not understanding why Sam did what he did 💀it’s not that hard lmao

[@shanicejoiner1452]

Okay why was I about to comment saying it's really not that hard to understand 😂

[@melsaint8616]

And also these two just watched Isaiah explained what his experience has been as a black supersoldier, how he was treated differently than Steve was, and they still don’t get why Bucky apologized to Sam for not understanding why he did not accept the shield. Smh. Is it really that hard to understand?

[@Holipsism]

Thank you. You just saved me a lot of typing. lol

[@thedefinitionisthis]

Yeah, I was wondering why they found it "clunky & confusing". It was laid out pretty clear. And the execution made sense given what Sam said about the legacy of the shield being complicated.

[@GuyWithNoNickName]

11:31 - The flipping helps, because in the heat of battle Sam needs to be prepared to catch the shield in any situation. If he’s doing flips and such in battle he needs to practice catching the shield without being steady.

[@Low-KeyGmg]

I think it will be a vibranium cap suit. Feels like having his wings ripped off and embracing the shield means the end of him being falcon and the beginning of him taking up the mantle of captain america.

[@thedarkknight2221]

I honestly think that this is tied with episode 8 of Wandavision as the best episode in all of Marvel TV history. And it could not have come at a more relevant time. When Isaiah Bradley said “They will never let a black man be Captain America.” I was shook to the core. Especially when you consider the fact that Steve Rogers did the exact same thing Isaiah did and was celebrated as a hero and Isaiah was locked up for 30 years, and it absolutely would’ve been for life had that nurse not busted him out.

[@harishkumark2112]

The guy who came back with the explosives for carli was sent by Sharon Carter if you noticed the phone call she was on, this further implifies that she is the power broker...

[@earthzero7]

Jabby -- "I didn't understand that... " Bucky blamed Sam for the blood on the shield and all that had gone wrong since Sam gave shield up. You could see it in the look as he left the shield with Sam and walked away. Bucky was indeed apologizing because he didn't take Sam's feelings about the ramifications into account that contributed to his reasons for not taking up the shield. If you think that this wasn't part of Sam's reluctance to take up the shield, you would be dead wrong. As usual,--Achara was right, but please also stop calling it a "woke" moment. That totally diminishes the importance of his admission. Bucky was realizing that he had not fully thought about Sam's experience and point of view. It (Sam's ethnicity) didn't enter your mind when you were thinking about Sam's decision because you are not black. There's nothing wrong with that. For a black man in America that is as experienced and as worldly (though Sam likes to joke that he is not) as Sam is, that is ALWAYS something you are aware of. That's just another aspect of the "Truth."

[@conorosullivan8059]

1000% agree

[@Doomer253]

That skillshare bit was pretty dang funny

[@stillhere95]

Sam said in the previous episodes, "I did what I thought was right" when he gave uo the shield. Bucky and the audience thought that it was a matter of him not feeling worthy. When Bucky apologised, I think the show is insinuating that the idea of a black man inheriting the shield and the complex nature of it, was at least a part of Sam's decison to give up the shield. Assuming Sam tells Bucky abt his talk with Isaiah, Bucky is realising this, and so is the audience and thus the woke apology. I like the apology, it is smthng that should happen irl but doesn't.

[@ahmadsafwan278]

I find it a bit weird that Jaby mentions the story of his friend about Rue and then completely not understanding Bucky's apology... Buck gave Sam a hard time for giving up the shield without even considering what that would mean for Sam. Yeah, Sam felt unworthy and being black is definitely a part of that. I think he's aware that a lot of people will have a problem with him taking on the mantle because of his race

[@ezekieltete6584]

Jaby always seems confused 😂😂😂

[@pixxiespit]

Think about it this way Jaby; Sam’s sister once said something like: “This country doesn’t care about my life (or experience), so why should I care about it’s mascot?”. So Sam feeling reluctance toward becoming that mascot when the country or those who feel suppressed by this country’s history and continued racism and ignorances, is perfectly understandable. Get it?

[@anushiyak1522]

there's an interview of anthony mackie mentioning that sam gave up the shield because he didn't want to be a mascot of a country that has done so much wrong to his people. and the shield with the american flag painted on it, is a big reminder of that. for bucky the shield was about steve not america so when sam put it down, he thought sam was being disloyal to steve but it was for whole other reason which was, once bucky had understood, he apolgized in the 5th episode.

[@LauraCourtneyette]

I don’t think those are wings in the case from Wakanda- I think it’s a new Cap America suit.

[@CircleRed3]

Bucky's apology... Here's what that scene means. Bucky's apology is like when someone says I'm sorry after finding out you had something bad happen to you... not like cause he himself did something wrong...Bucky did nothing wrong. Bucky was simply just showing compassion for NOW understanding what position Steve put Sam in ... They never considered how heavy a burden that it puts on a Black Man who would take on the role of Captain America given the racial issues that still exist in this country. In that moment, he became aware of an issue that neither he or Steve ever had to think about. That's all. 🙂

[@karthiksubramanian2279]

Damn...John Walker is growing on me a lot...can't wait for his US agent portrayal

[@feezy6speed]

That’s what they want jaby, they want you to know so badly what’s in the box, Vibranium wings would be dope tho.

[@fayismhd2968]

So this is what it feels like to be first

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

Many ppl were saying it's gonna be a great cameo, and will make u cry, while in reality it was just a lackluster and emotionless.

[@fayismhd2968]

@@IronMan-jj2fd mm... you sure you are on the right place buddy?🤔

[@nagasainarasimha1645]

@@IronMan-jj2fd what the hell r u talking about

[@ariyansingh4914]

@@IronMan-jj2fd don't believe in the "many people said" this is exactly the problem with Internet folk. It was so completely taken out of context to the point where this episode being emotional and new character reveal was in 2 separate interviews and had nothing to do with each other... 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ This is what's wrong with people yous don't do the research and just believe word of mouth from Instagram pages or twitter etc. Maybe watch the interviews themselves. All the writer said about the new character was "it's a grounded character with strong personality" "I'd love to see them next to one of the world shakers like thor" that was it. Nothing else. Of course... People then end up blowing that statement out of proportion as usual and dissapoint themselves.

[@IronMan-jj2fd]

Fee - ells lyke

[@RockyBell]

I think Bucky said sorry because he didn't do anything for Isaiah and he knew it for long time even when Steve Rogers was cap. In a sense Bucky was ignorant and didn't care.

[@mikemartin8194]

Achara is,so gorgeous. That smile.

[@dem_bears]

They broke his left arm & he was swinging at them at the end of the fight with his right arm

[@ishaanmahesh5858]

8:17 what's in the box..what's in the box ...what's in the box

[@MrGuest442]

Honestly I feel bad seeing his arm break while him screaming in pain but what he did was unbelievable cap never did anything like that he sliced someone in half

[@AidantheLegend]

Sharon released Batroc...and he went to help Flag Smashers...so is she with them too?

[@markcruz359]

doesn't make sense if she was the Powerbroker. since the Powerbroker want them dead

[@ariyansingh4914]

@Haydz Dayz possibly, I think she's gonna use batroc as some sleeper agent maybe because we see in one of the trailers that batroc wears the flagsmasher mask. It's a very quick shot tho.

[@CedricBassman]

All those people here still in denial about Sharon being the Power Broker lmao.

[@gowravks3506]

Nah man she wouldn't betray Sam and buck...I think she's using batroc...

[@tanmaysharma9301]

I think Sharon is the Power Broker.

[@Dilligff]

Sam isn't going to need the serum. The 'suit' (which I assume is a new Captain America suit) was made in Wakanda and will likely be based off of the Black Panther suit T'challa wears. At least that is my theory.

[@gesk]

Bucky is over one hundred years old! He was born at a time in America even New York went blacks were openly treated with hostility at most benign racism at best.

[@allhellloose7632]

JABY DON"T ENJOY THE SHOW .... HE TRIES TO PUT HIMSELF IN DIRECTORS SHOES ... & WHAT HE COULD HAVE DONE. Achara is a normal person with whom I can relate.

[@Zoom-jm7yf]

Yeah lowkey it seem like instead of watching a show he keeps trying to see himself as a professional critic instead of an audience member idk just my opinion 🤷‍♂️

[@Dancingqween3]

Thank u i always want to say that.. i feel so fustrated wstching their reactions... i can relate to the lady but i feel mostly he influence her and she agrees with him mostly after that 😑😑

[@sauronishere8040]

And yet he doesn't understand most of the obvious parts of the stories.

[@manuelaguilar4515]

Broke left hand, swang with the right. You asked right.

[@DefMM123]

Such a great episode hope the finale is epic!

[@孙澤宇]

I have never cared about Walker before but after that sentense scene it just hit me, AND I LOVED HIM AS A CHARACTOR. Because this charactor is a mock in the face to those who fantasize and idolize army or soldiers for more than what they are. I mean yeah the deeds protect the country and the quality requires dicipline and effeciency and strong and sharp and so on, And I truly appreciate that, I do. But people are fantasizing like it's a role of a saint's heart and a roboticly-efficient physics combined, like TF?? You don't win a fight because you are kind or smart or know better, you won cause you followed the order efficiently and the order given was right. That's all a soldier is, a sharp hard gear for the giant machine, and Walker IS what the military ask for, and the bests even. PS. My brother fell for the "advertisement" of the army, got into it, just to find out it's just another job, even a crappier one, I mean, duh, why would it be their first choice if they had better jobs to do? So you know what kind of teenagers most of them were like. Yet STILL the rumors of the army of love and its solders of saints are running. PPS. I'm not talking about the US, but I don't think it will be too much different. PPPS. If you actually know people who choose to join the army out of a good heart dispite all the things they could have, then good for both of you. But if you are bitching or angry or rude in the comment after all these, just don't discuss on the "good person matter", cause we're just NOT, how would know anything about it?

[@lycantrophy024]

This!!! is what im talking about. THANK YOU MARVEL for showing US what REAL SICK AND TWISTED the WORLD is. hands down.

[@ionsinha2645]

Val used to work with fury in the comics... Something like an Soviet mole or something... I feel she's working with sheild... I mean we already know sheild is as persistent as hydra so who knows they might mention quake or even LMD Coulson...

[@gekkehenk1673]

The wings are now probably for the Torres guy, hes gonna take over as falcon, why falcon (now) is going to become the new cap with a new suit from that box

[@571danu]

It sucks that no reactor even wants to put in any of Johns emotional scenes. People already made up their minds to blindly hate him and feel nothing for him.

[@SirSpitsAlotable]

Apparently JLD was originally gunna show up first in Black Widow

[@Dom_510]

The box has his Captain America suit

[@priyanshjoshi7]

I have one a humble request for the playback of the episode, please do increase the volume of the episode a bit Jaby, your microphone voices are too deafening at times....

[@dragonweyr44]

"What's in the BOOOOOOX?" Brad Pitt, Se7en

[@sumitchaudhary3177]

There is a new Vibranium suit in box for new captain america.. Sam ..

[@puspthakur4322]

Probably its new black panther 😎

[@HistroMorphic]

Lol jaby understand the bastard moment at end

[@jacklarkson4505]

we cant find her...she is gone,5 mins later popped up in central park...i mean how the hell she get there with out being detected...so realistic.

[@bigboiidex3212]

Fucking.Will.Power! 10/10

[@comicscookingmore8113]

Kurt Russell is amazing

[@BalbirYaduvanshi07]

i am sure its new vibranium capt america costume

[@quanthinh3487]

These show are so good that they make MCU movies like child plays.

[@SeanTube2099]

Your point about the conversation between between Sam and Bucky is weird, it seems like you’re saying that because Marvel didn’t film it in a cookie cutter manner as they discussed a serious subject, you thought this was a flaw??? I personally think people talk in different ways and it shouldn’t always be filmed in a predictable manner.

[@Tommy_23t]

Sam didnt take up the Cap. America mantle at first because he thinks living up tomantle is hard especially for a black man. He thinks the world will NEVER accept a black man as Cap. America.

[@benjaminfaulknor9588]

When marvels starting to get more mature cause it’s been 10 years and all those kids have probably grown up and I’m all for it

[@benjaminfaulknor9588]

@@Blitz-dm3kv True but not like this. That opening fight scene and the ending of the last episode is the most violent the mcu has ever gotten

[@sarth89]

yeah man!

[@reasonablekinda2269]

@COOKIE ZOMBIE you know that Joke about how Steve is what America wants to be while John is what America is, Steve didn’t see color, to him Sam was a good man and his friend just as Bucky was so in a sense the joke makes sense and is kinda real lol. Steve is what America could’ve been, I’m hoping Sam would be the same.

[@GitaAyuPuspita]

yeah i was like 13 when i saw iron man and i didn't mature enough to understand the complexity of superheroes. but now in my adulting phase of life, i start to understand more and i like the way marvel starting to show us that there's not 100% good or 100% bad character. It depends on the perspective

[@RichardStrong86]

We'll see how that theory holds out for you when they introduce the Young Avengers.

[@The_RedVIII]

"You are delusional!" Cut to Achara pretending to be Winter Soldier. lol

[@myself_yuvraj]

Sam cleaning the blood off the shield while crying is one of the best scenes of mcu.

[@ravikatta8685]

Yeah bro 😭😭

[@aryandsouza8011]

The acting is too good in this series. Wyatt rusell is doing such a good job that I absolutely hate his character. And let's not forget the actress playing karli morgentheau

[@MR._SNAJI]

I agree

[@subhashismandal9871]

He probably was crying because he got his ass whooped big time. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Chinachik]

@@subhashismandal9871 Not as bad as John Walker did though lol

[@loganbigmo]

The Countessa is in _Black Widow_ ... this episode doesn't introduce her well because it was filmed & written with the notion that we the audience had already been introduced to her in _Black Widow_ which was meant to come out before this show.

[@ariyansingh4914]

@FlickTalk I mean it would make sense she'd be in black widow

[@loganbigmo]

@FlickTalk Because it got reported by Vanity Fair, who did an interview

[@Doomer253]

That's not a bad theory. I like it.

[@loganbigmo]

@@Doomer253 It's not a theory though? Lol

[@Achara]

Ohhhhhh...that makes so much more sense

[@erikabooker7604]

I feel like where Sam is coming from is a point of view of “ I am black . I can’t be captain America. “ like that whole conversation with Isaiah kind of showed his point of view and why he chose to give the shield to the museum rather than keep it. I feel like Bucky was apologizing for giving him a hard time bc he didn’t realize that as a black man he may not have wanted to take on the sheild . As someone black I completely wholeheartedly could see why Sam gave it up . Just like you said about the rue and hungry games story I was told the same thing when the movie came out . Like it’s just weird man lol

[@Usthereout]

Yes! Just like when Barack Obama became the first black president, not everyone can deal with the negative response you're going to get from society

[@The_Story_Of_Us]

I love that Falcon and The Winter Soldier is so much more complex and deep than I thought it’d be.

[@yoongisgummysmile9648]

@Jimbo Bimbo fr...if wandavision and tfatws were movies, they would be in my top movies... they are probably still two of my favourite mcy products tho...and it makes me that much more excited for loki

[@saveion106]

The scene where Bucky apologizes to Sam makes sense, because the entire time Bucky accused Sam of giving the shield, he never took into consideration how large of a mantle he would be taking on. Not just as captain america, but Black captain america. Just like in episode 2 where the kid called him Black Falcon instead of just falcon. Race definitely plays a huge part in the position so Bucky is apologizing fro not seeing it from Sam's point of view

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

Yes it does and a lot of white people called Obama the first black president more than they call them president

[@fourteendoesart3133]

Hey, welcome to unboxing with Sam. Today we are gonna open the box and what does it have? It will be revealed next week.

[@ariyansingh4914]

Puts up a clickbait thumbnail of it being his captain america suit but just turns out to be a bunch of wakandan snacks

[@fourteendoesart3133]

@@ariyansingh4914 I would love to eat some wakandan snacks mate. M' Baku: Just Kidding We Are Vegeterians.

[@BluEx22329]

Wakanda box is that?! Lol

[@VikasKumar-yy3rx]

It's the flower, a substitute for the serum

[@the_varunrvel]

I can hear it with the voice and energy of Anthony Mackie

[@yashraipancholia9789]

Apparently the part where Torres asks Sam Wht should he do with the wings and then thats where Sam says, “keep em” and thats basically an easter egg revealing that Torres is going to be the next Falcon after Sam and Sam will become Captain America

[@Doomer253]

So hoping Torres repair those wings and shows up in the finale.

[@yashraipancholia9789]

@@Doomer253 i dont think that he might show up as the Falcon in the finale Wht i meant was that in future he might take over the mantle of Falcon as per the easter egg

[@Doomer253]

@@yashraipancholia9789 It would still be a cool moment if it happened in the finale. *fingerscrossed*

[@feitan8745]

just another damn fine episode, nothing else. People were expecting a big war, but instead they just did what they "thought was right".

[@goldlucario5371]

I’m glad someone else caught this! Hoping for another hint towards this in the finale!

[@reggiebrown9508]

Subconsciously Sam felt the same way of what Isaiah said about a Blackman being Captain America. And Bucky apologizing for not realizing that was the reason Sam gave up the shield.

[@HamnatPenaya]

But the best part is Sam wanting to prove that wrong. By seeing the hopeful side still and putting in the work to take up the sheild anyway on his terms. And you could feel the pride when his nephew is admiring the shield.

[@reggiebrown9508]

👍🏿

[@homersmith4057]

Your on point here. Sam saying over and over that the shield belonged to Steve was acknowledging the image of Cap as the Blond, Blue Eyed, All American symbol. Sam doesn’t fit that image and didn’t feel comfortable trying to assume that image/mantle. The cultural significance of that mantle never even occurred to Steve or Bucky when they “appointed” Sam the next Captain America.

[@reggiebrown9508]

@@homersmith4057 you explained it better than me.

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

I knew that was a reason before Bucky took Sam to see Isaiah, White America will always have a problem with a black person or another race taking over a mantle they believe it theirs and theirs only just like a lot of them were pissed off that Obama became president even though 99.99% of all the other presidents were white

[@HumblNick558]

I have to say that John Walker is one of the best well written characters. You can see him literally fold under all the pressure of being Captain America and then to have his best friend die in front of him sending him into dispair. Then get to the court room and he literally speaks facts about what soldiers go through and that the baggage of whatever happened to him during his tour and getting those medals of honor still weighs on him. Now I can’t wait to see him as U.S. Agent

[@apollolancer78]

Clearly shows the govt is clearly at fault in a spur of quickly finding a replacement for Steve Rogers without conducting thorough psychiatric background check to find a suitable candidate

[@monamahajan2403]

@@apollolancer78 well , since the government wants what is called a "PERFECT SOLIDIER". They just don't care about that probably and since he didn't have the serum earlier they probably thought it would be easy to take away the shield from him if he went rogue or something. Atleast that's what I think

[@apollolancer78]

@@monamahajan2403Thinking that the symbol of America is easily expendable, goes to show how flawed and crass the govt is. Esp the Senator, from the moment he commended Sam when he gave up that shield to the point of quick replacement by reinstating John Walker. Which poorly reflects on Govt system.

[@monamahajan2403]

@@apollolancer78 I totally agree with you

[@MiamiDagreat]

Isaiah Bradley story was deep to Sam. And it hit home.

[@CedricBassman]

Until Isaiah started talking shit about Steve.

[@gowravks3506]

@@CedricBassman the man's got a point tho

[@MiamiDagreat]

@@CedricBassman he had a point he save his Squats gets locks up Steve save his squats and his American hero. The cover over Isaiah history they told his wife his was die.

[@CedricBassman]

@@gowravks3506 He got a point in some stuff, but certainly not all of it. How come if white people reduce someone to their race, it is called racism (rightfully) but when black folks do it with white people it is overlooked. The man literally reduced Steve Rogers, probably the morally and overall best Person on the Planet, to "white boy." Seriously?

[@MiamiDagreat]

@@CedricBassman yea but he upset because he don’t get the same respect because he black no one can say no difference they way they did him is sad we so crazy about Steve why we not like that of Isaiah to 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ariyansingh4914]

I love that Sam let joaquin keep the wings, definitely setting him up to be the next falcon.

[@aswinvj1134]

Yep that's a point 😉

[@ariyansingh4914]

@@aswinvj1134 I wonder if they'll set up Eli Bradley as patriot maybe next episode or post credits.

[@Usthereout]

They're setting up the Champions and the Young Avengers

[@aswinvj1134]

@@Usthereout maybe we should see old Rogers as a mentor for the young avengers.... Also

[@donultrawide]

@@Usthereout As a fan of both, I don’t think they’re setting up the Champions for a while, but I also don’t think they’re merging the two like some other people seem to think. I think they’ll stick vaguely to the comic timeline where the Champions form after Kamala is disillusioned with the Avengers, which would probably have to be in around 5 years, while the Young Avengers are basically set with the comic lineup

[@hikari9433]

What I understood from the scene with Bucky is that before leaving, Steve discussed with Bucky about what he was about to do : staying in the past and giving Sam the shield. Bucky apologized because Steve and him thought Sam taking on the mantle would go normally without any trouble. They did not consider the challenges that Sam would face as a person of color becoming the symbol of America.

[@shubamkrishan643]

dude every time Jaby breathes it feels like Thanos on his shirt is smirking even more

[@Hari-zr6dm]

Torres becomes Falcon in the comics, so I guess Sam's old wings will be used by him.

[@phivanle7]

Bucky was not apologizing for contributing to the "black experience" in the country. He just simply apologized for pressuring Sam to automatically take up the mantle without considering Sam's position. Sam even said in the therapy session that it's something that Bucky and Steve will never understand. And also, bringing up Bucky being in Wakanda and how that somehow shows that Bucky knows about the "black experience" in AMERICA is a bit weird.

[@CarlosEduardo-iw9jr]

That's it, Jaby thinks like a white guy. The black experience in Wakanda has nothing to do with the black experience in America.

[@gamingk639]

exactly

[@Usthereout]

I love how Sam, even though he faced major race related issues, he decided for himself what he wanted to do and who he wanted to be. Whether it was Steve, Bucky, or even Isaiah.

[@antoinerideaux-porche6036]

I'm with Isaiah when you said no self-respecting black man we want to be Captain America and that's true if Captain America was a real person in America . But being that the shield is vibranium which came from wakanda it is actually wakanda's shield not the white us government

[@anithaav9902]

I feel bad for Walker😞 He was not stable and now after taking the serum his mind became more unstable after Lamar's death he is broke

[@apollolancer78]

Well Marvel cleverly paints a little reality touch to current reality situation. It really goes to show even the government has flaws too.

[@sauronishere8040]

lol "even" government has flaws 😁 well! Govt is the most flawed body, to begin with. Watch a Ted Talk about how the most mediocre and incompetent people go into politics.

[@apollolancer78]

@@sauronishere8040 I was just being 'diplomatic' cough cough lol.. Ep5 hits a home run to reality esp with Isaiah's sad story. From police brutality to social acceptance of different ethnicity will always be the topic of debate to come. 😜

[@Doomer253]

Same. I don't like Walker, but I sympathize with him. Which makes for a even greater villain imo.

[@naveenraina1227]

Same i agree 👍

[@tanmaysharma9301]

I don't understand why is Walker lying to himself and to Lemar's family that he has killed Lemar's killer. It was Karli who killed Lemar not the guy whom Walker killed.

[@rl8259]

So he feels justified that he killed that guy for a good reason

[@sehrentamilselvam309]

He wants to give Lemar’s family some closure. Make them feel just a bit better. But he’s not happy that the real killer, Karli is alive. So yea that’s why he’s making his own shield and going after her

[@mirrorman8549]

Nico was trying to kill john and was holding John from behind so Karli could stab him which led to lemar tackling Karli which led to Karli one punch killing lemar...so Nico was part of Lemars murder.. So he isn't technically wrong. ...but its a stretch... I put Lemars death on flagsmashers as a group but more so on karli

[@tanmaysharma9301]

@@mirrorman8549 Yeah because after she killed Lemar the other flag smashers were shocked too as killing people was not their cause. This shows that she doesn't care about the means fair or evil she has to use to achieve her goal. Like when she bombed that building with the GRC workers in it.

[@mirrorman8549]

@@tanmaysharma9301 the other flagsmashers doesn't care about killing too. They were there to assassinate john walker captian America.... But they ran away because they were outclassed and outnumbered and Karli killed the wrong guy and cap is gonna go nuts so they ran

[@nayeebG]

Again, Marvel Studios dont know how to fail. 👌💯💖 That hero training montage.👌💛

[@CedricBassman]

Me after that fucking cliffhanger at the end: "WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!"

[@aryandsouza8011]

Yeah. I was like marvel you can't do this to us. But I guess they're building the hype up for the finale

[@BiggestWolf1]

@@aryandsouza8011 yea I was hoping to see it but deep down I knew. They wanna reveal the suit with Sam in it, flying to New York or some of kind of badass heroic entrance

[@spirallightningtech8552]

Either the captain America uniform with wings or the heart shaped herb.

[@jasonthompson1604]

@@spirallightningtech8552 no way it would be the heart shaped herb

[@cantgetriight]

brad pitt, seven vibes

[@HellfireComms]

Man, even when John Walker's ranting and raving I still feel sympathetic for him. That's good character writing.

[@benjaminfaulknor9588]

I’m guessing it’s a captain America style falcon uniform in the suitcase and it’s going to look fkn glorious

[@Usthereout]

I hope he still has wings.

[@claudeoliver9437]

With Wings on it too. That's freaking insane. Who needs a serum anyway if you're like Sam.

[@benjaminfaulknor9588]

@@claudeoliver9437 My thoughts exactly.

[@seancoetzee5399]

Well there has been toy leaks. I ain't saying no more

[@benjaminfaulknor9588]

@@seancoetzee5399 there’s always toy leaks. The Lego set of the airport scene is how I found out ant-man went super sized in civil war

[@JanPopieluch]

I think Bucky was apologizing for what he had said during the talk with the therapist, the "you just threw it out" stuff. He was thinking about himself and his relationship with Steve and not about what burden the shield would be for Sam.

[@queenofnevers6990]

Also now he saw how even the good assumingly suitable soldier cracks under its weight, and for Sam it had more implications that neither Steve nor Bucky ever considered.

[@ishraqtalukder4518]

John walker seriously needs to have his temper in check.

[@Minority_hunter..]

He can’t. He is getting used to the serum amplification. It took decades for sam to master. Plus he is an anti hero. He needs his temper to be interesting

[@ghostlee6434]

Also it's called PTSD

[@subhashismandal9871]

@@Minority_hunter.. Correction - it took Bucky decades not Sam. Sam doesn't even have the serum.

[@roshandhekan633]

Does the Genius John Walker know what the real shield made of?😂😂😂😂

[@gowravks3506]

I think he's trying to be like a ..uhh like an independent captain America

[@redeyepeyton]

“Yeah metal” is probably what he’d say if asked

[@roshandhekan633]

@@redeyepeyton 😂

[@5150Amrit]

Actually no one knows what's it made up from, Cap brought it from another timeline. The original one which was shattered in Endgame was of Vibranium but this new one is unknown & the one Walker is making is also of the unknown metal, maybe that Lady helped him to get the Vibranium or any other strong metal? who knows.

[@mirrorman8549]

@@gowravks3506 US agent john walker... Grey area superhero/ antihero in the comics ..surprising how in the comics now he is a pretty good guy and in the show they are trying to make him more of a villian

[@RafidW9]

Sam: look at me, I'm the captain America now. Meanwhile Johnny Walker making the Walmart version of the shield.

[@DCF..]

Bucky apologies because he gave Sam griff for renouncing the Shield. like "you insulted Steve", but Bucky didn't understand the implications of being a "black Captain America".

[@ed.cudric28]

For Bucky’s “I’m sorry” part, I think he apologized because he was kinda blaming and doubting on Sam’s decision of giving the shield up in the first place, they argued about it in the second episode (the therapy scene towards the end). But I don’t know exactly why Sam gave that shield up in the first place. That’s just my opinion.

[@sehrentamilselvam309]

Partly doesn’t feel worthy to follow that legacy and also has the same feeling that Isaiah has about a black man not being accepted as Capt America.

[@ed.cudric28]

@@sehrentamilselvam309 Okay, got it. Thank you.

[@alimoejc1]

Haha that’s funny that you are asking why Sam did not get the serum. I meant not to sound harsh but it states pretty much why in the episode, he did not take the serum. He is not trying to be captain America he is his own person. Plus he has seen what it did to Walker why risk it. Also Isiah’s story with the serum is reminiscent of black struggle in America so yeah hmm it’s pretty much stated why Sam will not want it. I don’t think he needs the serum anyways it seems more like a cop out but that’s me.

[@MarcSpctr]

The cameo was Madame Hydra, she was supposed to be introduced properly in Black Widow which was supposed to release before TFATWS. She basically teams up with Ross to build Thunderbolt, a team of anti-hero like Zemo, U.S. Agent (John Walker), etc.

[@thepirate8765]

If the Wakandans made a suit like BP then the suit could build up kinetic energy and Sam can disperse it like a Super Soldier without taking the serum....just a thought.

[@itzante2148]

Jaby, I fear you missed a lot of the show from the black experience. Bucky gave Sam a very hard time about not taking on the mantle of Captain America. But he didn’t understand what it means for a black man to take on the mantle of a country that doesn’t always have his back. Being racially profiled early on, the bank, all the comments from Sam and his sister about the country, etc. and for the audience that didn’t get it, the entire scene between Sam and Isaiah spelled it out. And that scene ended up with Isaiah saying no self-respecting black man would want to carry that mantle either. I don’t know, as a black man the part where Bucky apologized for all the shit he gave Sam about the decision to give the shield to the museum felt great.

[@CinePals]

It's been spelled out for me with more clarity in the comments. Thanks man. I think it's more the execution of the apology. As I said in the video, I like the ideas a lot.

[@z0eie]

Watching non-black KZbinrs discuss this show I am always struck with how they categorize the African-American experience. The gravity and brutality of the terrorizing experience that it is and still is today, feels completely lost. Even from two persons of color.

[@FalconFXICCY]

Bucky's apology to Sam was from him rushing to judge Sam over not willingly accepting the shield from Steve. He later came to the realization that Sam's reluctance to accept becoming Captain America had little to do with his capabilities or shunning of that responsibility.

[@anandhups360]

John Walker is actually a good guy but he ends up messing things up.

[@ryanmadej6694]

For those who don't know . John walker gets his own suit and shield and takes the identity of US AGENT

[@obsidiancc2309]

Aight . Even though I knew this...thanks for spoiling for others who dont know

[@Undertaker606]

@@obsidiancc2309 LOL it’s not even a spoiler son

[@obsidiancc2309]

@@Undertaker606 lol true, it's from comics but what I meant was dont overhype as we saw in Wanda vision 👍

[@hebbarraghu]

John Walker is good man love the character

[@sahilkadam2183]

Ok

[@acronvron9665]

But they are doing is what I expected that is making him a villain at least so far. I hope they make him more of a punisher like character. Just like any other hero but who takes the path of violence. Not in the way heros just kill and it’s forgotten.

[@ihavenocommonsensebut2008]

The thing i hate most with marvel is that they such with power scaling. You’re telling me that John throws something around 10 pounds hard enough to make a 200 pound man flying 30 feet but Sam can walk away from being tackled by that man to taking a smack with the shield.

[@JamalKhanStudios]

i don't know why everyone says Jhon deserves it. no, he doesn't.....

[@lambuster1479]

I wanted to see Bucky's confession to that Japanese father more than that of whats inside that case

[@sriram216]

John Walker every 5 minutes I am Captain America