THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDIER | Episode 2 - "The Star Spangled Man" | Reaction

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[@thedarkknight2221]

I love how shows like this and Watchmen have the courage to shine the spotlight on these dark chapters of American history. And bringing in Isaiah Bradley aka the Black Captain America was such a genius move.

[@GoliathWarfare]

Never thought I'd see him in live action. Good on them. Hope he comes back in some way

[@iancruz6617]

Did he wear the suit like the comics at least.

[@thedarkknight2221]

@@iancruz6617 yeah and it’s awesome. Go on Wikipedia and look at the picture they have of Isaiah.

[@iancruz6617]

@@thedarkknight2221 Awesome, so he did.

[@thedarkknight2221]

@@iancruz6617 yeah. And he looks badass! He looks even more jacked than Steve did.

[@7woundsfist]

The black Falcon thing was like when I was growing up every black superhero was "black" something. I loved that part. Just another example of how society marginalizes us.

[@JD43232]

Society doesnt marginalize you. its politics, media and popculture owned by big corporations. Its just the divide and conquer tactic they have always done to people of all groups. almost nobody is racist in the western world 2021. But i agree on that calling a superhero ''black something'' is lazy and shallow....because skin color doesnt matter 1 bit ofcourse

[@CarlosEduardo-iw9jr]

@@JD43232 Do you realize how contradictory your comment is? Lol

[@7woundsfist]

@@JD43232 1: all of these things are constructs of society forged by those with power within that society. 2: don't ever, EVER tell me that racism doesn't exist in western society. As a black man who has traveled the world I've experienced it everywhere to varying degrees. 3. Please @ me because I'm a anthropology major with a focus in sociocultural patterns. I'm built for this son!

[@gr3saeyend]

@@JD43232 skin color does matter. race is real

[@JD43232]

@@gr3saeyend thats actually racist. the fuck. Skin color doesnt matter PERIOD. race? theres 1 human being...its called a ''human''. damn

[@deanjoyner1829]

I think the "Black Falcon" comment was tying in to what Comics did to black characters usually have Black in their name. To signify Hey we have a black character look at this.

[@jordanreed1408]

Yeah, like blacklighting

[@ujamaa4]

That's it precisely, it was more a comic reference than a real world reference

[@tehtayziez]

I think that dialogue was quite an important thing because it was with another black person. Sam took issue with the kid referring to him as Black Falcon because the kid and his father are calling to attention the color of Sam's skin when the whole point is to stop doing that altogether. Essentially this is Sam taking issue with the idea that referring to him as 'Black Falcon', regardless of who says it and regardless of whether you say it as a point of pride or derision, you're still calling attention to his skin color as if it matters to who he is. Honestly it seems like Sam kind of shares a similar sentiment to people like Morgan Freeman who would rather that instead of racial pride be a thing, people just learn to appreciate that stuff regardless of who they, how they look are and where they come from.

[@thefearmakerlive]

Yeah, in the 60s and 70s, when they were creating black heroes, they had to unceremoniously have Black in their names. From Black Panther, to Black Lightning, to Black Goliath (Bill Foster who was played by Laurence Fishburne in the Ant-man and Wasp movie). Though Black Goliath was eventually changed to Goliath. The Falcon, who was a sidekick but did have his name on the Captain America book, and Power Man, who eventually just started going by his name, Luke Cage, were fortunate to avoid that trend.

[@devildham]

That Part

[@theshibu214]

20:48 jaby ... because STEVE trusted that falcon can be new cap and bucky can change himself and set free of winter soldier effect .. but now falcon dosen't trust himself he gave back steve's sheild so now bucky have thoughts that MAY BE STEVE was wrong about BUCKY ..and he can never change ..even that old super soldier said this to buck that U CAN'T WAKE UP ONE DAY AND CHANGE WHO U R .. so falcon giving up the shield is a set back for BUCKY .. bucky is trying to convience falcon to have it ...while falcon although dislikes new cap he don't want sheild

[@Nick-kb2jc]

As a black person, I can tell you that the real world counterpart to the “black falcon” comment is something many of us have dealt with before. It’s something I definitely encountered when I was younger in middle school and high school growing up with many white friends. I was always the “token black guy” and a few people would refer to me as “black Nick”. I thought it was funny at the time and it didn’t really bother me but it definitely would now. Comments like that are actually really common among young kids these days, hence the reason they probably had a young boy make the comment in the show.

[@TerrellMcDuffie]

I agree with your statement & sentiment fully. I was upset that this guy said they should of left that out, I'm not usually one to say you have to be black to understand our plight, but in this case that's exactly the point. At least she kind of got the point.

[@ScarletW82]

How was the other Nick referred as?

[@valentinfranco6396]

We had a white boy Nick and a white boy Dave… predominantly Hispanic area. nothing but love for them though. They were definitely one of us. The white boy before their name was mainly a blood in blood out reference… and we showed us, and our culture nothing but love. They would fight anyone who put down our culture, and on our Hispanic celebration days they represented hard with the flag. No one showed them any animosity for it because we knew they did it out of love. Context is important. It wasn’t a mockery or an appropriations on their part (which I know a lot of times it is). When it came to them, despite not being Hispanic (mostly Mexicans in that area [SW Detroit] but Puerto Ricans and various others as well), everyone you this was the culture that they grew up on so it was their culture.

[@halfcentaur9836]

Falcon is just human, so is Walker. Not chasing was the right call. Bucky also got outnumbered and he doesn't want to kill anymore.

[@CinePals]

Could've tracked them see where they're headed.

[@kaleebbarrett4953]

@@CinePals well he uses red wing for tracking and intel, but did you not see the part were it literally got destroyed Lmaoo 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ariyansingh4914]

@@CinePals the trucks were too far away at that point to even place any trackers or something. Red wing was straight up destroyed and I doubt John walker would've let bucky throw his tracker on the trucks. (assuming John has trackers)

[@vortext1566]

@@CinePals They basically just Didn't wanna fight alongside the "New" captain america

[@halfcentaur9836]

@@CinePals that's a fair point. They do seem to be taking a different approach to tracking the super soldier serum now.

[@zacharygeertruida5542]

And they just introduced another member of the Young Avengers. (The son of the Black Supersoldier).

[@deanjoyner1829]

Grandson but yes

[@theavastark6463]

Trash Steve's the original so hes just better

[@thestranger1475]

@@theavastark6463 what?

[@Kidapollo92]

The fact that the cops were coming at Sam then realized he was a “celebrity” speaks volumes about today’s society The experiments isiah talks about happened in real life the Tuskegee studies black people were experimented on with syphilis

[@leinad95]

jaby stormed the capitol confirmed.

[@morrisguinn6868]

I think they didn't chase those bad guys because they were out numbered, under powered and they didn't have a solid plan

[@jenrenee8747]

I feel like everyone forgot that Bucky got the same super soldier serum that Steve got...I know the Russo's basically relegated Bucky to guy with gun after Civil War but he has the same abilities and strength as Steve/Cap

[@lagnok]

Jaby with wandavision: this sitcom stuff sucks, whats the point (despite the point beig obvious from the get go0 jaby with falcon and winter soldier: this real world racial stuff sucks. (despite it being evidently important to the themes of trust and mistrust and dissappointment by government inherent not only to the plot but the two central characters). seriously, what is it with this dude sometimes.

[@CinePals]

You’re oversimplifying everything what I said. I emphasized positive feelings about what you said. But take what you want so you can feel empowered at your keyboard.

[@gaurishtembhe9440]

US Agent is not a bad guy. He is just a Perfect Soldier and Huge Patriotic. And abt tone shift in between is because both of them don't want to talk abt real issues by cracking some jokes but end they end can't hide from it.

[@radhikashukla8482]

It's a defence mechanism of defecting with humor.. They don't wanna be vulnerable and truthful so they hide behind joking with each other.. They both are dealing with issues that are so complex, Bucky is dealing with PTSD and how he is now, and sam is dealing with captain America stuff and what it means to be a black superhero now, and I think that they are trying to avoid it by bantering with each other..

[@maskiez]

I agree with Achara. The black falcon thing is not as little as people thing. Most of us see people by the color of their skin first before everything. Why can it just be a guy instead of a black guy or white guy or asian guy? Why the separation? But because we do this too often and it becomes the norm and nobody care about it anymore. But these things can really shift your assumption of a person dramatically. Like how as soon as we see a white guy, a bunch of stereotypes about white guy will pop up in our head.

[@kayzzle9084]

Imagine dealing with racial issues in real life constantly. Its crazy how you cant even handle seeing it 3 times in a row in a tv show. Must be nice. Im not gonna tell you guys what to do but I think it would be in your best interest to not watch this show anymore. Its gonna touch on major racial issues and its obvious that that makes you uncomfortable.

[@Doomer253]

I would've thought Jaby could relate. Especially with recent events. I guess that 'White Adjacent Privilege' is too strong to give up?

[@CinePals]

Guess I'll stop watching it because I'm not qualified to give an opinion because of my race. I grew up dealing with racism too. Not the same way, but I assure you I have and in some ways that I don't even feel comfortable to mention publicly. But that doesn't stop me from having an objective opinion about a show and story telling. I understand the idea of having to deal with it constantly. And I can see that angle as far as how it makes the viewer feel, "This is how it feels in real life." Cool. Understood. For me, objectively speaking, it reminded me I was watching a show that was trying to tell me something. All other instances, didn't stop me from being absorbed in it. And to be honest, it wasn't so much the meta moment that bothered me. If it was somehow woven into the show at an earlier point (and maybe that wasn't possible, just saying), I wouldn't have had anything remotely negative to say about it. But I'm not a show runner, I'm just a dude on a couch watching a show and letting the world judge my dumb opinion.

[@CinePals]

@@Doomer253 I don't even know what you want me to get from that. America doesn't look at me as white, white adjacent or white friendly. Never even heard of "white adjacent privilege." I'm NOT trying to keep up with some pain olympics or say I have it as bad as anyone else. But keeping it real, I know where I stand in society as far my ethnicity goes. That doesn't stop me from looking at a show and being objective about it.

[@hiten836]

@@CinePals please dont engage with these guys your true fans who watch all your content know that you're obviously not racist. Also your opinion is honest which is what a lot of your fans like. While i myself prefered this episode I'm still going to continue to watch your reactions. Also if the pressure gets to be too much on this channel you could always post on these reactions on the indian channel,given how many marvel fans are over there aswell. All in all I know you get a lot of heat but please don't give in to the haters and quit.

[@kayzzle9084]

@@CinePals You’re definitely reading into something that’s not obviously there. Nowhere in my comment did I mention YOUR race and what you have dealt with in the past. I find it weird that you even felt the need to bring up your struggles and try to play the victim here. No one said you couldn’t give an opinion because of your race. I honestly had your best interest and was giving you advice because as I previously stated and as your reply confirms you are obviously sensitive to the topic and can’t handle it. I felt like your opinion was coming from a place of ignorance so I was just trying to help you out a little bit as to why the real world scenarios were back to back.

[@DCF..]

I know Jaby doesn't want to watch review or easter eggs videos cause he doesn't want to get spoiled, but I wish he would atleast talk to other people who he could trust not to spoil him, because he missing alot of things, not just because he isn't a comics fan and doesn't know to backstories, too much things gets over his head, and that's why we watch review videos to fill in those missing things. Marvel does a good job giving you enough, sometimes right in your face, sometimes subtly, and I admit I don't get some things but at the end it all makes sense, like with the stuff in WandaVision, every little weird thing at first, made sense at the end.

[@ReaLifeHDchannel]

John Walker: "That was a bad idea." Bane: "For you."

[@mageeaaron2624]

Enjoyed this reaction! 🙏🏽🙌

[@CinePals]

Thanks. :)

[@anniestrinkets8431]

So Jabby didn't understand the reference of calling falcon, Black falcon, while they were visiting the Black Captain America 🤔🤔

[@alexandersmatrala7641]

Well, Sam is doing the banter mostly. Bucky never usually responds well, or at all to it. I think it works. They're two very different people that were connected through Steve. Now that he's gone, there's no middleman between them. Ps: Well, they need to introduce new characters. Most of the episode was with Sam and Bucky anyway. If John Walker isn't a major character after this show, then it's kinda redundant. Still, to not have a black and white story, we need to understand where all sides are coming from. That's how storytelling should be.

[@elrockz2636]

Always so over the top critical... Only Achara gets it.

[@animeguy64]

11:04 they showed how black people are actually treated irl thx marvel

[@ssjcajas]

Bucky and Sam don’t hate each other. They just had a best friend in common. They are pretty much just acquaintances and not friends at this moment in episode 2. The Black Falcon thing probably has to speak about how we attach race to everything even tho Sam’s race has nothing to do with the fact that he is Falcon.

[@CircleRed3]

Here's the reason for the BLACK FALCON scene with the kid... (yep, I'm late to this show) 🙂 The kid represented the black community being proud of Sam... Sam was pointing out that he's not just there for Black people, he's the Falcon for ALL of AMERICA. This is an important point that some may not get or better understand till later in the series.

[@frederickmueller8687]

The cultural zeitgeist is a little funny here. Jaby is feeling like back to back to back scenes are all talking about anti black racism is a bit much, and I can understand that. I’m not here to call names or tell anyone that they’re wrong. That said, I’m going to push back a little. The scene with the kid is very relevant, because it represents a certain movement in comics and in Marvel itself that changed. The X-Men were literally an allegory for the civil rights movement, but outside of storm, the main conflict is between people who both look a certain way. (Yes, I know Magneto is a Holocaust survivor, but it’s not completely relevant to this point.). Prof. X and Magneto both present as white folks, but they represent Martin and Malcom. Who where the black superheroes of the time? Black Panther, Black Adam, Black Lightning, most supes of the time were Black “insert super name”. It’s an actual thing. I understand you’re tired, I’m not mad, and honestly, it’s fine. Smaller references aren’t going to land with everyone the same way. Comics folks aren’t all one way or another, and reaction videos are for actual reactions. There’s no reason to scold someone because they haven’t lived your life, and it’ll likely harden their opinion of you, and we’re all guilty of it.

[@ogfkh1979]

The Black Falcon was a reference to Black Panther.. Like how when Black Panther was reviled to the rest of the world black people saw someone as ther hero they can actually relate to...

[@nellybell32]

Point of the “Black Falcon” scene. How many people learning Sam Wilson will become Captain America literally going “oh a Black Captain America”. The point being when Sam becomes Captain America he should be “Captain America” not “Black” Captain America. Sadly there is a good bit of people who will always think of him as Black Captain America and so somehow less than 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@jester1924]

You can hear the wobble in his voice when that 7 Eleven Captain America says to "stay the hell outta my way." Like, he knows that he's poking the lion with that line

[@xavabhinav]

Isaiah was the first black Super Soldier and acting Captain America when Steve Rogers went in ice.

[@velanm8679]

Me: every Friday waits for their reaction When it comes out(also very late): so crappy and have no clue and misses all the Easter eggs😒

[@michaelsmith7094]

If Achara likes that marching band in the episode, she should check out some drum corps performances! They’re like marching band but insanely good and perfect to the tee. They’re amazing.

[@KarinaHunter]

Were you really not aware of ppl calling heroes things similar to the "Black Falcon' title the kid used? Later ppl call Sam "Black Captain America" rather than just Captain America but also in the comics there had been a lot of that (they've tried to correct for some of it in the MCU over the years) like in the Ant Man comics Goliath (the character who helps Ghost in Ant-Man & The Wasp) was named "Black Goliath" for example.

[@Nightlightknight]

I think they didn’t chase the trucks, coz Bucky found medical supplies in one and I guess it was assumed that this was a medical run? I mean sure, the Flag Smashers are rogue paramilitary but they weren’t running weapons so they let them go, plus they were outmatched to begin with.

[@mannat6026]

Sam is so witty I love him.

[@perrycampbell3192]

That older black was called the patriot in the comics. He is from the new avengers

[@Antwannnn]

"older black" just sounds weird as hell lmao Maybe I'm just sensitive 😄

[@dragonweyr44]

New Cap is Wyatt Russell, son of Kurt Russell

[@Es2daB]

I think they're building up Walker's character because they probably have plans for him after this series. He would definitely be Thunderbolts material, if they decide to bring them in

[@dragenoxinside]

I think they left the trucks alone because they weren't after the super soldiers they were just trying to save the hostage, which is also why they didn't go after the truck at the back but for the truck with the supposed hostage at the front. But then got entangled in the mess. Also I see the Black Falcon as going both ways. Just like they call out the racial profiling they also teach you that people shouldn't discriminate regardless of their skin colour. Like if Sam ended up as Captain American he wouldn't be Black Captain American he would just be Captain American.

[@iameNeRG]

It’s just one of those things of putting a color before everything.

[@glennwelsh9784]

It just *feels* wrong each time Achara calls him Captain America.

[@davidjuneja]

Well official subtitles named him captain America.

[@layton6202]

He is captain America

[@Killm33]

Giving some shine and back story to John Walker is important because it's how you establish a new character the right way. Marvel is not a slap-stick studio. Every character in the MCU both big and small serves a purpose.

[@ToureGrantham]

Alright, so the “black falcon” joke was actually pretty poignant imo. Maybe its something that only black ppl might notice on the surface because in my community having a black superhero is the exception to the rule. So, oftentimes with older generations of black ppl especially, it almost feels like its a necessity to point out that superficial characteristic as an important trait so that its readily apparent that they(black superheroes) exist; i.e, Black Lightning, Black Panther, etc. Which is why the kid says his dad calls him that. The writing doubles down on this idea with Isaiah Bradley's character because, as we just saw, marginalized ppl arent often given the recognition deserved for their service specifically because of the insidious nature of white supremacy and its effects on society. Im not trying to sound preachy, but hopefully this comment gives a little bit of insight in how the “general black community” champions their heroes.

[@souravmeena6808]

uk i have been wondering if iron man showed up instead of falcon .......would this still fight .......i mean "guy who litterally made thonos bleed...........

[@gunzhots]

My take for the relationship between Sam and Buck is that, they are just friends or simply just partners. They don't totally hate each other. Its just how friends insult one another because they are comfortable around each other. It's not like how Tony hated Cap and Buck in Civil War.

[@lolmaker]

Was Jaby's brain switched off during this episode? He seems to not get any of the messages. 1. I completely agree with Achara's POV on the "black falcon" part. I've seen Marvel characters being called black-something if their skin color is black. If it were a white person playing it you would not call them white-something just "something". And from what I've read in the comments it seems like there are quite a few black hero's that undergo this treatment. Just call them by their actual names why add black if it isn't necessary. Plus I think its a good scene because we see Wilson not reacting aggressively, rather he treats it like a teaching moment, that surely shows me one of the reasons that Wilson is worth the cap mantle like Steve thinks. 2. Personally I don't mind when mainstream entertainment media calls out bigotry, racism, mysoginy in the real world but I guess that's a matter of preference so I guess Jaby lies on the other side of the spectrum. Marvel has consistently been calling out the "evils" of the world for decades now in their comics so I don't believe its a result of corporate virtue signaling which is probably why I'm okay with it. 3. About the animosity part, I found it quite clear that they both don't hate each other, rather they're going through differences with each other. By Jaby's logic the entirety of Cap Am Civil war is not "congruent". That entire movie is built on the premise that the avengers are split because of two different ideologies, yet in the movie we see how members of the two factions are able to have casual and amusing dialogue even though they disagree. I've had similar experiences in real life where there may be animosity between me and someone else but until we actually bring it up its in the backburner similar to how bucky and wilson finally were forced to confront one another in the therapy session. Till then, they don't acknowledge the problems with each other but that doesn't mean they arent friends. Friendship isnt an all hate or all love type deal imo so just cause you have differences doesnt mean you hate the person. Then again these are just the opinions of a stranger on the internet so who even cares.

[@TheChrissyj3]

Am going to be very honest... i come from your brothers channel since i know yall brothers i thought i could support over here too.. i dont mind helping someone cash the bag or pay their bills.. so am coming back to watch.. the problem i have is when its time to give your opinion.. its so ruff watching and listen too that i remove directly after your done watching the movie.. I get it we see things diffrent... am not a marvel superfan, i dont know the comics but i like to educate myself but somethings are so on your face with these movies that you cant miss or with a little research you can understand why they acting the way the do.. thats the thing frustrating me. I respect yall opinion but man 🤦🏾‍♀️. Achara seem to get it most of the time .. dont be so over critical.

[@hognatius_valentine9057]

Disagree about the action scenes. If this is like a six hour movie- no action movie has a huge action opener and then each subsequent action scene be bigger or equal. You might get a big opener and certainly a big finale, but I’m not expecting massive action scenes every episode. I like the mix and, for me, I’m loving the character arcs and social commentary.

[@mk._.0610]

people who are asking them to stop reacting just because he's not a comic nerd and doesn't know every single thing should stop because most of the MCU fans doesn't know most stuff from comics either and only became fans after watching movies. he is just watching and sharing his experience with you. For people like us who know a little bit about the topic it can be a bit annoying sometimes when the other person doesn't get it. but we have to realize when we were learning about that topic, we were ignorant too. So, when Jaby and Achara are watching they are learning too. And Jaby when you said why they didn't track them one reason was also that redwing also acts as a booster for falcon if you remember from the first episode and to catch up to the trucks, he would need his booster and they would have definitely seen Bucky running behind the trucks if he could get to them at all.

[@trentbresler3179]

The comics your thinking of is Michelle Wolf and Maya Rudolph. I think the race relations I think is extremely important, especially when it comes to leading to falcon becoming Captain America, because of the Isaiah Bradley story line in the comics. That storyline was basically the Tuskegee airmen wrapped in the Captain America story. It was also touched upon in the watchmen series on Showtime. If you had a black superhero that was just as good if not better than a white superhero would America accept him for just being a great superhero or would the title black (enter the name here...in this case it was black falcon but it is touched on by Sam Earlier with the white panther comment earlier).

[@MyMaxzi]

He lost me when he said the racial prejudice etc in the show was back to back. Like haven’t you seen the shit going on in the US? A constant for people is a start

[@manuel-cecconello]

Achara sounds really invested into it.

[@thecrewchief5925]

Man jaby is quiet watching and enjoying and then there is achara...dang go get it who are you how did they get so strong.. U're cute😂❤

[@james78669]

They don't like each other coz both of them were best friends with captain America 😀

[@deetrain5890]

Comic book movie universes. People cannot actually fly and shoot beams from their eyes. The DCEU claims they are real world, when there is no real world comics... Marvel is entertainment. These stories are more adult and hav3 real life issues we don't have homogenous heroes and Archie comics.

[@dummytest8325]

Hi Jaby

[@jiorts]

bucky doesent want to lose another friend

[@shahriarbariarib2282]

Where's steve's grandson ?

[@SriTejaChilakapati]

When fake cap landed on the truck, during the fight he pulls out a gun and shoots one of the bad guys. Steve would NEVER harm someone until and unless he's 100% sure he NEEDS to kill them. For me the moment he shot someone, he lost the worthiness of being the Captain America.

[@rl8259]

Remember when Steve kicked that guy of the ship lmao he killed people all the time.

[@blackmantis3130]

What makes him fake cap?

[@susanagomez9799]

YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

[@nileshghadge5016]

Guys, stop schooling Jaby in the comments, I can't like them all 😂🤣

[@CinePals]

Hilarious.

[@nileshghadge5016]

@@CinePals I know, right? 😂 Kidding

[@layton6202]

@@nileshghadge5016 look out for the punch that's coming your way

[@nileshghadge5016]

@@layton6202 from who?

[@rockydelone3042]

He’s absolutely irritating because a lot of these questions he’s asking have either A) already been answered and/or B) Ongoing discussions in today’s climate. It’s like wtf kind of box is he in rn?

[@SinkfieldHoops]

the point of the kid scene: a black director, is still just, a director. a black CEO, is still just, a CEO. a black president, is still just, a president. a black kid, is still just, a kid. and probably what they foreshadowed is with race being an issue of the mantle of CA: a black captain america, is still just, a captain america. he may not be 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙚 captain america but he holds the title and mantle

[@daglorious1]

Hey jaby.. black panter , black lightning , black vulcan , black fire,.. shout out achara for peeping it

[@joelhenry5489]

Black Spider, Black Manta, Black Tiger...

[@AmeerahMuhammad]

EXACTLY.

[@blackmantis3130]

The black panther part I don't agree with because it is a real thing but the rest you're right.

[@daglorious1]

@Son of Martha tru but thats ok . The more u know the more u understand.. thats why scenes like that are there , eventually it’ll spark a thought 💭

[@CinePals]

That didn't fly over my head. It was the stack that threw me. It's easier to notice when the writers are doing something if it's back to back to back rather than over the course of the show. I like all of it. And I would have liked that particular meta moment more. It's just how quick it was one to the next. Forgive me if I'm being ignorant somehow.

[@MrHerolet]

It’s a jab at multiple black comic heroes across both dc and marvel having the “black” prefix in their names to tell people they were literally black characters, a trope that stopped during late 90s, characters like Black Goliath were then referred to as Goliath, for example

[@CinePals]

That wasn't lost on me. I think I was just thrown because it was all back to back so I could start to feel the writing. If it's spread out, then I'm still engaged in the narrative. I like all that "real world" stuff in general being integrated. It's just how they do it is mainly what I'm fixated on.

[@priyanshjoshi7]

@@CinePals that's genuine.

[@MrHerolet]

GETJaby ay that’s fair bro everyone’s got an opinion😎

[@velanm8679]

If you notice properly bucky is not joking around with Sam only sam is because hes always that fun guy...but when Bucky talks about Steve and the shield he gets serious too...

[@CinePals]

I thought about that later. One of the consequences of your opinion being on the internet is the corrections to your thoughts rarely find their way to people.

[@OakTown2g]

Jaby seems to overthink the whole episode and show but Achara seems to be picking up most of what is going on just fine. Sam loves to troll Bucky and Bucky is just annoyed with him. The show is not flawed, you are just not picking up on every current polictical nuance the show is dishing out! This show is not meant to be an action comedy alone. The show is going to cover trauma, PTSD, black experience in America, family and finances. The show is speaking on a few things that get overlooked or glossed over in everyday life for veterans and people of color. Nothing too preachy though!

[@Doomer253]

Exactly. This ain't rocket science. Just empathy science.

[@inzaghiscornsalad7034]

that's why rationally speaking, it's the best disney series yet. yes wandavision loki they were all marvelous experiences, but this was something else.

[@anandasb1984]

He makes the kid realise that there's no white cap or black falcon.. Its just cap and falcon.. Thus passing on this wisdom to the next generation..

[@CinePals]

Yeah, I get that. I think it's just because it was stacked instead of spread out that it stood out to me.

[@layton6202]

Yet he call's Bucky white panther

[@ariyansingh4914]

@@layton6202 literally out of humor but yea sure, take it seriously.

[@anandasb1984]

@@CinePals I'm inclined to agree with you.. Keep reacting and reviewing. Have been a fan of your channel since the very beginning..

[@koyapol]

the intro music is from the captain america: the first avenger movie. The scene where steve was a stage actor.

[@animeguy64]

I knew it I was surprised how many people didn't

[@sjw4life546]

I find it interesting when people say they don't want to see "too much racism" on their screens. That is never applied to any other issue. Nobody said oh WandaVision is too much grief. The punisher was lauded for being a show about soldier PTSD. The only type trauma that people don't want to see is racial trauma

[@smileitsbisma]

I fully agree I found it weird when he said this but I feel what he means is he doesn’t want the show to just focus on that alone which I understand but like you said they never apply it to other issues and therefore can be shown on screen too. I think they should actually showcase more of this stuff simply because it’s real.

[@Anmol.singh.10]

The point and the meaning of that Black Falcon scene was to give a Sarcastic Answer to all those who give racist remarks on the Superheroes. For instance Cap has a Black Sidekick Falcon,Tony has a Black sidekick Rhodey. So they're basically trying to show us Falcon is a very vital character himself and till the end of the show we might end up being a Falcon fan. And not just him Rhodey also. We're going to see his Journey in Armor Wars. So they're trying to show the Stereotype people have for a Black Superhero. Thats why Black Panther has a big meaning. We'll get to see Kamala Khan,Iron heart,Miles Morales,Blade,Moon Knight(Oscar Isaac)

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

@James Harrison *eye-roll*

[@mageeaaron2624]

Exactly. Especially in memes lol

[@iancruz6617]

Hm no mostly smeone said it some heroes has black in there name like some

[@iancruz6617]

@James Harrison yea that terrible

[@CinePals]

That wasn't lost on me. I think I was just thrown because it was all back to back so I could start to feel the writing. If it's spread out, then I'm still engaged in the narrative. I like all that "real world" stuff in general being integrated. It's just how they do it is mainly what I'm fixated on.

[@AmeerahMuhammad]

I think Achara gets this episode MUCH more than Jaby does...also I don’t think there needs to be a “quota” of how many times racism can brought up in a given episode.

[@CinePals]

In my humble opinion, someone's understanding of something should never be based on how much they agree with you. Alternate perspectives is important. I don't take issue with how much racism is highlighted. It's the execution. It was back to back to back. For some, they might say, "Well that's how it feels in real life." Fine, I'll grant you that. For me, I could just feel the writing because it was stacked instead of spread out. For some reason, the latter two being back to back was fine for me. When you have all three in a row, I start to notice I'm watching a show and it's got a message rather than it feeling like a story I'm absorbed in.

[@brandonjuno]

@@CinePals All shows have "messages." Where are we going with this?

[@nonechuks6683]

@@salmankhan2739 I wouldn't call that cop an outright racist. It's more systemic, I guess? It's part of a larger picture of how law enforcement view black men and women. Cops treat an emotional black man or woman in public as if they're an impending threat - then it emphasizes a point that Sam is just another black guy in America if he isn't recognized for his fame. All of it ties back to IRL.

[@Killm33]

Racism can and should be brought up as many times as it needs. It's 2021 by the way.

[@AmeerahMuhammad]

@@CinePals all shows and films have a message. So I don’t get why that’s an issue. Also I take no issue with varying perspectives. It’s why I watch reactions. And my opinion and perspective is that based on your own comments is that you didn’t grasp a lot of what was going on in the spirit of why it was there. Racism isn’t “spread out”. It is STACKED. That’s the entire point. The writers and producers have stated that they will talk about race a lot in this show. Specifically what it means to be black and be a superhero in America.

[@sumerlawrence]

Having 3 exchanges with race was to much for you yet people of color have to deal with these things their whole life. Myself including. It's the struggle Sam is dealing with with taking up the mantle of becoming Captain America. Seems like there's alot of things you don't seem to understand in this episode.

[@rl8259]

This is a show in a universe with gods and witches we don’t want to be reminded about racism every 5 minutes.

[@CarlosEduardo-iw9jr]

@@rl8259 Any entertainment material that tries to reproduce the real world even with fantastic elements will have real-world situations happening. The way racism was addressed is still quite subtle for me.

[@AmeerahMuhammad]

Exactly

[@Doomer253]

@@rl8259 It's part of the world. Even in the comics. In fact Captain America comic is political as heck.

[@CinePals]

My issue isn’t the inclusion of these topics, in fact I expressed a lot of positivity about it. It’s simply the proximity within the show. It’s a nitpicky thing on my part that’s being taken completely the wrong way.

[@dhruvboricha5]

I really liked this episode and thought it was great. I felt Jaby was overly critical of this episode here but it's your opinion and I respect it👍

[@CinePals]

thanks.

[@Rea3443]

Also, Steve was the only reason why they came together so without him, they're here and there with each other.

[@Vexen-A077]

I think what Sam was referring too in my opinion when they had the therapy session when he said to Buck " this is some thing you or Steve will never understand" is that perhaps also sam took into consideration how people wouldn't like the idea of a black captain america. it must've hurt and that's why he did what he did, gave up the shield.

[@rambleswrites6937]

It's not animosity. Their relationship is continuously evolving and they haven't had the chance to get along yet. Bucky is projecting onto him because of Sam giving up the shield. Sam's pissed off because Bucky doesn't seem to understand his perspective.

[@ryanroberts3270]

They’ve been doing this long before this show tho. So it can’t be just that’s

[@rambleswrites6937]

@@ryanroberts3270 This is just after Isaiah AND that Sam doesn't want to be there with the therapist.

[@ryanroberts3270]

@@rambleswrites6937 ohh ok

[@aldyjonas]

Isaiah is in the comics, he is the only survivor of the super serum experiment that the government did on black soldier. When they send him to the winter soldier they were expecting to be kill, when that didn't happen, they locked him up

[@avgnfandon2]

@Kev Prz that’s not what happened at all

[@avgnfandon2]

@Kev Prz I misread that, my bad big dawg

[@aldyjonas]

@Kev Prz didnt know that, but still is about racism

[@Sykretts]

If you paid any attention while watching any of the Marvel movies that had steve + wilson + bucky in them, you'd know exactly why bucky and falcon hate each other and yet at the same time tolerate each other and also sometimes prefer the comraderies of each other - It's having Steve as their common point. They're both very good buddies of steve, but from different eras, so they both have that "he's the new friend, i'm the old friend" feeling causing the natural tension/hatred between them. Then, there's the losing a common best friend part that causes them to connect on some level as friends. So yeah, it is absolutely not a surprise why falcon and bucky can simultaneously hate and revere each other. Also, achara's clearly got a better read on the situation based on her interpretations of it all. Jaby's just being a very annoying/ignorant contrarian, kind of a let down if i'm being honest. The scene with the kid calling wilson "black falcon" is a direct setup for special treatment given to a hero based on his race/skin color - the very next set of scenes build on that by revealing the black Captain America, who, just like steve was a Captain America (google Isaiah Marvel) , but because of his skin color was treated differently by those around him. It's like the color of the skin mattered more than the role the person played. Also, the reason why falcon, bucky or even walker for that matter didn't pursue the truck any longer was that they knew they were up against something they were not equipped to deal with - a whole band of super soldiers, boosted by the same super-serum that made Steve, Bucky and Isaiah what they are. You need the entire Avengers team to tackle a team of rogue super-soldiers. I don't think this is as hard to compute as you made it out to be in the video. I mean, if you're gonna watch these shows just for the surface level stuff, you might as well not watch them anymore Jaby. You had the same issue with WandaVision with the unwarranted nitpicking.

[@mageeaaron2624]

I understand. I can see Jaby's point of few as well at the same time. I don't believe he's being ignorant, I think he just doesn't understand completely. Remember, they haven't read some of the comics and they only have a little knowledge from the movies and the some internet theories. Plus, I think Jaby is a little use to the old formula of the MCU when some things are more straight forward. However, the MCU is adapting more and changing the formula which confuses some people. However, it's awesome that you picked up on some of these things like I did 💪 But I do understand. I sometimes get a little disappointed when I pick up things and other people don't understand it. However, I have to remember that not everyone can get things right away. Which makes us special. Regardless, despite some disagreements and similarities, I still like watching these two react

[@Sykretts]

@@mageeaaron2624 Mate, everything i mentioned in my comment has solely to do with the MCU movies. It has nothing to do with the comics. I am well aware that your average react youtuber has 0 knowledge from the source materail, so I actively make it a point to leave out any arguments made based on those. If jaby can't understand why bucky and sam have the dynamic they have after watching the Winter Soldier movie, then he was probably sleeping through that movie. I'm only calling out Jaby because I've noticed a trend in his videos since about 6 months or so where he's been overly critical of almost everything he reacts to, almost to the point where you wonder if he's actively making an effort to do so on purpose, to maybe try and come off as a smart person who's asking valid questions, but in reality his comments have the exact opposite effect, where they make him come off as ignorant and as a contrarian.

[@KingOfThaDead64]

You need your own youtube channel.

[@CinePals]

I don't pay attention. I just read comments.

[@hiten836]

@@CinePals lmao 😂😂

[@AnishPhule]

If slow down the credits and look at them, you can. see lines from the Sokovia accords and other things that are erased before the actual credits come in. They are written in very small letters and intentionally made not easily readable.

[@Dancingqween3]

Omg this reaction is ruff jaby 🤧

[@CinePals]

Sorry. Will try to be less disagreeable next time.

[@zerekanthony2203]

@@CinePals you're way overly defensive bro. Sure some peeps are attacking you but the far majority are just disagreeing and sharing their own experiences and takes. You're accusing others of not being tolerant of other opinions and ur snarky comments are u showing u aren't that tolerant.

[@zerekanthony2203]

Jaby- the reason they didn't continue the chase: First off they pursued cuz they thought they had a hostage but found out they didn't. Secondly afterwards he said they were getting their asses hand to them. Why would they pursue a fight Ur losing, what's the strategy or point in that? Odd thing for u to be bothered by the black joke, surprised that stood out that much to you, I laughed didn't think of it again.

[@CinePals]

It's easy for me to sit here and criticize whatever because it's not my vision. But it was just weird to me they didn't at least try to track them at a distance and see where they're headed or something.

[@dariusswinney3417]

@@CinePals They couldn't do that because Redwing got destroyed.

[@ariyansingh4914]

@@dariusswinney3417 yea and the trucks were too far away at that point to even throw any trackers or something on them, well maybe bucky could but I highly doubt John would've let him

[@The_RedVIII]

The guy who plays the new Captain America is Wyatt Russell, son of Kurt Russel and Goldie Hawn, and you can see the Kurt Russel in him. Also, he is great in Overlord, in case you haven't seen that. He also plays a great part in one Black Mirror episode. Also, the actress with the red hair, she was in Solo.

[@AB-zl4nh]

17:05 When I was a kid, whenever I wanted to be Superman or Spiderman my friends would say I am Black Superman or Black Spiderman. It reduced me to being something only connected to the shade of my skin. But I am that and more. That is why to some of us, like Falcon, we're not Black-something. I don't say Black Spiderman, I say Spider-Man Miles Morales.

[@joelhenry5489]

Jaby wanting a quota on how much racism can be called out in a show.

[@Doomer253]

Yeah that was a real 'Side eye' moment for me.

[@brandonjuno]

"Three moments back to back might be too much." Damn, imagine being Black for three days in a row, crazy.

[@Killm33]

OMG yes!!!

[@Killm33]

@@brandonjuno 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️‼️💵💵💵💵💥💥💥💥💥

[@layton6202]

I'm black and those back to back to back scenes were so cringy it was hard to watch it gave me white savoir vibes

[@ParanormalSecrets]

I really enjoy watching Acharas reaction. Jabby doesn’t seem to keen on what is going on.

[@CinePals]

Always go with people you agree with. Fast track to broadening your horizons.

[@jomz2058]

@@CinePals Achara is the reason I sub more than you lol. I like how you both balance the quality of each video

[@layton6202]

@Mr. Efyou Man I'm black and people like you who can't see things objectively and just go straight to making accusations are beyond pathetic, those three back to back to back racially charged scene were so pandering it was hard to watch, they weren't even trying to be subtle. It felt like a white celeb who had racist tweets in the past trying so hard to be woke.

[@jinxie712]

I think the Black Falcon thing comes from them naming characters like Black Lightning and such.

[@CinePals]

That was clear. It was the stack that threw me. It's easier to notice when the writers are doing something if it's back to back to back rather than over the course of the show. I like all of it. It's just how quick it was one to the next.

[@jinxie712]

@@CinePals Guessing you mean by stack is going from Isaiah to the cops like right after. I've said in other vids that I think it was kind of a question and answer. Part of what Sam is afraid of is that they won't accept him as a black Captain America. Isaiah is a physical representation of that. Listening to his story on how they treated a black Cap (even though it was in the 50s/60s) might have gotten to him and let out in anger. The cops immediately stopping them and wanting to arrest Sam for harassing a white man, elevated the situation more. I see people ask why the cops were there. Black neighborhood in Baltimore... I'm thinking they patrol that neighborhood heavily. That's why that second cop car got there so fast. It even took Bucky saying something for them to really look at Sam to see who he was. And the cop apologized to Bucky for arresting him.

[@CinePals]

@@jinxie712 that part I liked actually. For some reason those two things being next to each other felt appropriate. The black Falcon meta moment immediately preceding it is what made it feel like a stack to me. It’s honestly nitpicky on my part, but just wish they had found a way to have it earlier in the episode somehow so it wasn’t right next to the other moment highlighting real world stuff. When it’s a domino effect, I notice the writing, that’s all. But maybe that’s the point.

[@mackeym10]

@@CinePals well it was less highlighting real world which it does has some for of real world problems. But noting very important comic book lore. "moment" like are going to happen alot when your in a black environment tell a a story about a black man. Plus there not many times the police would have been able to be used like that. the whole show is kind about real world stuff like buck therapy, rules of engagement wit fake cap

[@amandadougherty6615]

I feel like Bucky’s statement that everything is very overwhelming for Walker is going to be key to Walker’s character going forward. I think his desire and ego to be *awesome* is going to lead to his downfall into a straight up antagonist. Lots of people have been commenting on how he was doing cool stuff and trying so hard and putting out an olive branch to Bucky and Sam...but Steve didn’t try to be Captain America. Steve just volunteered to serve in the military- Captain America happened incidentally later, and he never really wanted that. And he couldn’t do the cool stuff, he wasn’t the star, before he was made into a super soldier. In fact, the doctor who gave him that specifically *rejected* the John Walker of the group of potentials. This guy wants to be a hero, he wants to be “Captain America,” the personality. And Cap never, never would have hacked into a colleague’s tech to spy on him and follow him. That shit was what he got mad at Black Widow for doing. In short- this whole episode didn’t show me the good parts of Walker, it showed me exactly why this is going to go to his head in a way that’s going to turn him bad. I’m actually super surprised at how many people came away from this episode liking this guy.

[@dominiqueodom3099]

I agree A lot of the smaller things throughout the episode made me go "Cap would never do that"

[@amandadougherty6615]

@@dominiqueodom3099 Exactly! Very subtle, but it was totally there, I thought.

[@layton6202]

@@amandadougherty6615 then clearly you watched this already having your own expectations put on to it, if you'd paid attention you'd see from the beginning of the episode he was a genuine guy with genuine intentions he didn't go out and seek to be captain America he was chosen to be captain America. People like just look for any excuse to be cynical, Bucky and Sam were disrespecting him for no reason when all he did was tried to be nice and get along yet you come out liking them more, they have no reason to treat him that way Sam gave up the shield that shits on him.

[@layton6202]

@@dominiqueodom3099 did you forget he isn't tryna be Steve and captain America was made to push propaganda that's what captain America is it's just Steve who had a different opinion not cap

[@LoveKSJW]

I don’t think having three racial references in a row was “a little much” at all. I think that’s literally what black people and POC deal with daily. Imagine how much it feels like in our actual lives....

[@missstar5449]

People who don’t live our lives will not understand. Every where you go you‘ll get that.

[@zerekanthony2203]

Word!! I think he should also keep in mind that all 3 incidents happened in Baltimore, a place known for a lot of racial turbulence and unrest. That wasn't lost on me and so I was fine with those things happening in sussesion.

[@djeio]

Isiah exists in the comics actually the quip with the kid does make a point but the cop thing is where they push it

[@LoveKSJW]

How is “the cop thing” pushing it when that happens to black people every single day? That’s the most realistic part, actually.

[@layton6202]

@@LoveKSJW I'm black and lived in the projects and I could smell bullshit from a mile away, those three back to back racially charged scenes were doing nothing but pandering they weren't even being discreet about it.

[@217prateek]

What MCU has achieved, Warner Brothers or DC will never... Today's episode is so good😍

[@sinkingship4454]

and they said that marvel is just playing safe

[@Antwannnn]

DC can. Most definitely! It's WB that's the problem.

[@217prateek]

@@Antwannnn but Warner Media owns DC, so no possibility 😆 After what they did to Ray Fisher and Snyder, I don't think Snyder would want to go back.. That's why Ray Fisher left the Flash movie.

[@MrHerolet]

No one can chase that truck apart from falcon so idk how you think he’ll do against all 5 super soldiers 😭

[@CinePals]

He doesn't need to engage. He can follow.

[@jashwanth9999]

@Akshay 18 If u notice in trailer Sam asks Bucky why he doesn't use his Vibranium arm he then replied he is right handed. And also against Captain America he was engaged with hydra, which makes his mentality much more violent and strong, so he can beat Cap. But now he is totally different person, which makes him not that violent nor that much powerful. Just my opinion.

[@jashwanth9999]

@Akshay 18 Yeah in winter soldier movie he take both falcon and Cap, he was at his peaks in that film. If he also at that level in this series he could have taken down those super soldiers.

[@RippleLiveUSA]

Bucky should have been the new Captain america.

[@Antwannnn]

Nope. Cap gave it to Sam for a reason.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

No, Bucky has too much History, you can see it in this Show he can barely Function like a Normal human being . The new Cap is having trouble dealing with it and you think PTSD Bucky would be ok with it?

[@ariyansingh4914]

Sebastian Stan (bucky actor) said one of the reasons Steve gave the shield to Sam and not bucky was because he wanted to give bucky a break, he wanted to give bucky a life without the weight of captain america on his shoulders, a life that was taken away from him when he enlisted. So that to me sounds like a very nice thing to do if you ask me.

[@Sjamakan]

With the kid who said, Black Falcon, points out that it is rasist, to call a super hero Black while he is Black. And do not label others. Do not say Black kid, white kid etc....because Michael Jackson said it doesn't really matter if your Black or White. That is the point.

[@thestranger1475]

My god...can’t believe that you used goddamn lyrics.

[@layton6202]

But didn't he call Bucky white panther

[@thestranger1475]

@@layton6202 Well that was a genuine joke that turned out to be real.

[@screenwriter7094]

Calling Falcon Black Falcon, was a way for his community to both embrace and claim him. It's a point that the story is making that there aren't a lot of Black heroes. Case and point, there was a black Super Soldier long before Steve yet no one knew about him. Want real world context? Look up the Tuskegee Airmen and the Tuskegee Experiment. That said, what show were you watching? It seems that she "gets it". Obviously you don't...

[@vengeance86]

for better context his name is john walker, also known as the US agents in the comics ( marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jonathan_Walker_(Earth-616) ), and isiah bradley(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_Bradley ) was black captain america, the actor is also the voice of Martian Manhunter in old Justice league the animated series

[@ramengirll]

He also plays the father of the Martian Manhunter in Supergirl (show).

[@jab1073]

I think a prime example in the real world to the black Falcon moment with the kid is in sports. When people talk about quarterbacks like Brady, Brees, or Rodgers it is just quarterback. But when players like Mahomes, Wilson or Jackson are brought up the term black QB is used sometimes as if to differentiate one type of QB fom another.

[@Doomer253]

This! This! Perfect explanation!

[@soumyajyotisarkar]

Please its a request. Stop Reacting to marvel things if you're not a fan. You seriously don't know he is Zemo, the one we're all waiting for. Please dont damage the reaction experience. There are other youtube channel which happens to be True Marvel fan who can actually find Easter egg level details.

[@nileshghadge5016]

Even I don't know much about Zemo from the comics but Zemo being the main antagonist in Civil War how can Jaby not remember who Zemo was. It really amuses me 😂

[@CinePals]

You’re obviously more qualified, you should do it.

[@aswanthganesan7050]

LMAO F off dude. No one's pointing a gun at your head to watch his videos.

[@rashadwalker8218]

According to jaby let's just keep it funny and action packed and leave the racial stuff out becuase it's to "real" got it.

[@CinePals]

Not at all what I said, but cool.

[@ahmadsafwan278]

Man, I like how Achara understand these two dudes' relationship better than Jaby did XD No hate btw, really like the reaction and discussion here.

[@arav13]

They couldn't do anything against 8 super soldiers. He can fly and chase but what else can he do?

[@CinePals]

Track them to where they're headed. Stealth like.

[@pranavk6024]

@@CinePals redwing is broken. So no can do unfortunately.

[@arav13]

@@CinePals I don't think falcon can be Stealthy without red wing. They can just keep running in circles and start throwing things at falcon

[@Aman-os3ib]

@@CinePals Exactly. I don't know why it's so hard for them to understand. By following them he could have known their location and with back up these guys could have been captured as in the very next scene they showed these guys are vulnerable to bullets.

[@OmniSelect]

The john walker captain america is actually U.S agent in the comics. He's not really a villain in the comics, hes just not a good person.

[@atwunz]

An Anti Hero?

[@OmniSelect]

@@atwunz Pretty much...hes short tempered and only cares about fame.

[@ariyansingh4914]

@@OmniSelect brings some homelander vibes

[@Chuckyprime_]

Similar to Hayward in wandavision

[@nathanaelmeikle8196]

@@ariyansingh4914 I wouldn't go that far