Getting Over It...But You're A Box - Boxman's Struggle (Northernlion Tries)

[@MrStatistx]

Please hire someone or use your unity degree and make "Egging over it" where you just do the same as here or in Getting over it, but the voiceover is you talking for 6 hours about whatever unrelated thing you want. Grocery stories and all.

[@bemo_10]

Also the player should be an egg.

[@MrStatistx]

@@bemo_10 I mean I assumed that was implied

[@bemo_10]

@@MrStatistx True, wasn't thinkin much when i posted the comment.

[@maxsterry5013]

but is the egg bald

[@RND_ADV_X]

There's a pretty good idea for a game in this. Use the mechanic of not wanting the egg to break, and make it that you start at the top of a huge pile of terrain items, and you have to figure out how to navigate your way down. You could hide egg-transforming items in the terrain too... So like an oven that fries you, a hot spring that turns you into a hard boiled egg, an incubator that hatches you partly so you get little feet or wings.... Etc. This would allow for multiple pathways down the junkheap and replayability. I have animation experience and would totally work on this idea if there are any programmers who would want to code it?

[@FreyrFox]

7:28 semi-fun semi-fact: Bennett himself often refers to all these similar games as `golfing over it clones`, as he feels they all pull a lot more strongly from its inspiration than from getting over its. good video, nl.

[@cookiebandit18]

Hey, that's exactly how I thought about it.

[@PHeMoX]

Of course he would say that, as he actually stole the game idea from a very similar older free game himself. The most notable difference being that particular older game looked terrible and was like a decade old. To pretend Getting Over It is somehow an original game is laughably uninformed. I don't mind the success of the game, but I'd say it's pretty uncalled for to make any remarks about the clones. At least Flappy Bird's creator never pretended it was his original idea. And Getting Over It actually isn't a flawless game really. It's no Super Meat Boy in terms of control. You're fighting the poor controls, which in my opinion is just poor game design.

[@FreyrFox]

@@PHeMoX no one, myself or Bennett, pretends its his idea either. The first few minutes of getting over it mention the game plenty enough to give it it's due credit

[@IanZWhite00]

PHeMoX Bennet talks about sexy hiking within the first couple minutes of play. He literally says it’s where the gameplay came from. The entire game is created from pre-made assets, ripped from their original context. The narration discusses the ideology behind this in depth. Also the controls aren’t bad. They’re precise and consistent, and it’s very possible to get good with them as with any other well designed game. They just seem obtuse because they’re unique. Go read some reviews for the early twin stick shooters where major outlets were struggling with the concept of camera movement, they’re actually hilarious. It’s okay to call the other clones derivative. Sexy hiking is an inspiration in gameplay alone. These other games borrow the visuals and aesthetics, narration, music, and general presentation nearly exactly, on top of the gameplay. This could be a genre, the sort of single-level, interactive-sculpture style masochism thing, but making the styles so similar is what throws people off.

[@leonhardfrommhold8463]

@@IanZWhite00 yeah, many clones don't manage the weird controls without them being random or boring, One that did it well I think it Pogostuck, a new idea, incredibly difficult but in its own way. Another great example of the single level masochism climbing archetype is Jump King, that one is truly great. I do however feel like these games made are just as much to be enjoyed while playing them yourself as they're designed to fill days upon days of streaming time for bored variety streamers with sadistic chats

[@wildshadow12]

Someone please mod NL's commentary on top of Boxman's Struggle, to be like bennet in the original. *Drops back to the beginning* "The challenge is mantaining your psyche, so you don't get super tilted"

[@zalen_Offical]

The nl bit where he just goes full philosophical and just rambels thru motivational posters till they resonate is best bit

[@Thomas52a]

Za Len the entire video was S tier

[@umbaupause]

To be honest, what gets me about Getting Over It is that the actual movement mechanics, quirky as they were, were actually really polished. When I played that one, I never felt like it was cheap cause it has bad controls or was jank in the wrong ways. That's why it kept me going without raging a single time for hours. This one uh. Issa box and you fling it around. The difference is staggering to me.

[@RND_ADV_X]

I think there's also a lot of emergent humor in the player being a burly topless man with a sledgehammer stuck in an iron kettle. That's visually funny and connected to the mechanics, but it's also a really smart allegory for modern culture.

[@Fachewachewa]

Most of the "clones" are meme games, getting over it was more than just memes. Bennett has welcomed all the clones, but he said they were more inspired by golfing over it than getting over it, and I think the gameplay is definitely what separates them. Also, I think I remember the narrator in golfing say something about the controls being part of the frustration in getting over it, which I think is a mistake. And every subsequent game in the genre followed that same mistake. (The whole value judgement is entirely mine, not Bennett's. And I still think there's a value in all those games, I'm very curious to see what it leads to)

[@Gabriel-to8uo]

Also Getting Over It has fun stuff like the narration and the music

[@kingoftropes922]

Good to see another game with the story integrity of God of War 2018 according to NL

[@salvadorhernandez985]

This one has no dialogue my dude

[@viniciuscavequi4652]

Ah yes, a fellow Isaac watcher

[@legion999]

@@salvadorhernandez985 just the way nl likes it

[@kingoftropes922]

@@viniciuscavequi4652 Hell yeaaaah brother

[@litapd311]

literally posted about that in the Isaac video today lol

[@Zengane]

>You ordered 300 Q-Tips >They gave you an ATCQ album ily NL

[@O-M-0]

"This is my original game I made, be cool Bennet"

[@JohnC20938]

Maybe it's not the spot, maybe it's you. -NL 2020 Truly Inspirational

[@PunFalafeel]

20:00 the greatest quote in the human history

[@ThatMrBurger]

“Us baldies used to be the bad guys in games” look how far they’ve come lol

[@GiornoGiovannaGangstar]

eggman yells at Amazon and falls off of rocks

[@flackbyte]

Hopefully we see a little bit more of this on the NLSS. Seems like a good banter game.

[@DragonFreaktheGreat]

@@manuelh.4147 that's what makes it a good banter game lol

[@NeoBoneGirl]

DragonFreak the Great There are good banter games that are actually fun to watch though lol

[@pasty609]

@@NeoBoneGirl Chicken horse for example

[@godlyvex5543]

I'd rather see pogostuck or jump king, those are probably a bit better than 'fling box'.

[@TheJedihunter]

AHHH So this is what Alice In Chains was talking about.

[@coltonmurphy6508]

TheJedihunter under rated comment

[@Rankerquat]

It's not a true parody of Getting Over It unless you have a narrator talking about, I don't know, Popover recipes and Andy Warhol quotes in your ear the whole time.

[@MrStatistx]

They should just hire NL for something like that. Imagine a 6 hours game like this and NL just goes off about anything.

[@valenciansun]

“To be, in a word, unborable.... It is the key to modern life. If you are immune to boredom, there is literally nothing you cannot accomplish” -- David Foster Wallace

[@axertian]

Wonderful commentary on this one! Relaxing yet hilarious- I would love to see more. Looking forwards to what comes next!

[@cheatyhotbeef2636]

I recently got into visual novels, so hearing you besmerch that genre by saying how abundant it is, music to my ears.

[@heyitsthatdude17]

Getting Over It.... But You're An Egg

[@armstrongturbo]

12:30 giggity

[@Cezkarma]

"Now pull it out slightly" "Now put it in slightly" Now we know how NL... Heats things in a microwave

[@PKchaos14]

I cant believe NL got through this video without singing " Iiiimmmmm the maaann in the box"

[@UCvow2TUIH0d2Ax2vik9ILzg]

As silly as that might sound, your philosophical talk about what these games mean, and the the "maybe it's not the spot, maybe it's you" is something I really needed today, after I walked out of a lecture, feeling far too emotionally overwhelmed by not understanding the lecture. But when you think about it, I'm on a far more advanced level of knowledge than I was in high school - yet I feel like trash because I'm having trouble advancing more at a fast enough pace. It's such a "maybe it's not the spot" moment.

[@mf_gamesamanda1542]

@12:32 "Now pull it out slightly; now put it in slightly." -RGL 2020

[@stormageddon42]

The thing all these clones remind me of is not the brilliance of Getting Over Its game play but rather the brilliance of its commentary in conjunction with the game play. It made you so much madder while still actually being insightful.

[@ProblmSolvd]

NL is channelling his inner Bennett in this video.

[@DrakeShade93]

based on his ramblings at ~ 19:00 someone should make an Egg-based getting over it clone with inspirational anecdotes from NL as the Bennett Foddy surrogate

[@CL32582]

"Benevolent baldness" Thank you for the company

[@laufendlich]

This handsome man gets balder and balder Last time I saw him: bald Now: bald+

[@veikkatoivari9871]

its a metaphor of how dezentisising from the joys of simple life choises are new hights, with the man and the box being life in practise leaving the player as the player with their own take on the box.

[@zombifiedoll1388]

NL: Faster, faster Me: Master of puppets is pulling the strings

[@supermonkeybutt99]

So I just finished watching all of the getting over it streams and I really enjoyed them. I found this to be a bit slower so I turned the playback speed up. And tbh it's the beat thing ever hearing nl talk like mad man rambling at 200 kph.

[@LexiPixeL_]

You know, the "non-ironic" bit in the video about the real challenge these games provide is one with your own patience, it's exactly what I've been saying about Getting Over It since it came out, and with games like Celeste as well. People see this stuff as rage bait, and really, it's anti-rage bait. These games directly challenge you to not lose your shit, and I kinda like that.

[@mattster5422]

That was an uncalled for rotundness of no and I am please to discover rotundness is, in fact, a word.

[@bibo2445]

boxman and eggman

[@zandiskoul]

I love your attitude towards hardcore games.

[@Kineth1]

12:00 **reads title** Yes, what a bold choice indeed.

[@kamelontti3926]

This was such a good video, Thank you Ryan Gary

[@theprimerib]

I think instead of Charlie Brown esque jazz music in the background it should be Man in the Box by Alice in Chains.

[@dusaprukiyathan1613]

4 minutes in, seems a big difference between this and GOI is that this game doesn't let you do nearly as crazy stuff. GOI let you get ludicrous speed because of how the controls worked, but here the speed you create is directly capped.

[@oposdeo]

I bought this game because of this video and it was very fun! I've already played through it twice ^_^ Thanks NL

[@posidon573]

If you cannot see the man in the box does the man in the box exist?

[@tsuki_4366]

schrodinger's bald man

[@xXRickTrolledXx]

If the man in the box can not see the man in the box, is there a man in the box?

[@PongzeLor]

I look away for a moment and 20 minutes later I see NL falling to the start. Never a better time to start watching than now

[@barockobama5441]

"You ordered 300 q-tips They gave you a tribe called quest album" Low-key on some SoundCloud rapper shit

[@AmyGoo22]

I love philosophical NL

[@Danegermouse1992]

I'm glad NL is getting work starring in games now too

[@Yomommalinkmugen]

NL rambling is the best

[@SuperMistland]

It would be perfect if this game had the tutorial guy from the ATV game in place of Bennet Foddy.

[@crimsonharvest]

Hey understand the genre here is kusoge, so being memey is part of the point

[@Thebroccolihead]

Can't wait for egg to play jump king

[@GoldenBones]

Ryan “games like this” Letourneau

[@robmcg26]

Game doesn't look to be my cup of tea, but the commentary was gold.

[@tomdeacon4751]

The greatest of all anarchist folk groups Chumbawumba who spoke out against the mainstream thoughts of Humpty Dumpty who got down and never got up again. You break that restriction eggman! 2020 is never gunna bring you down!

[@Aeroxima]

Price in USD: $4.99 Price in time: You can't afford it

[@joshuafulmer7502]

Love that I got a twitch ad that had the Minecraft silverfish clip in it

[@MogsnOB]

Apparently the Boxman struggle devs should just hire NL to play the part of Bennet Foddy.

[@Medsas]

Foxman's struggle

[@beatlesrol456]

lionKafka

[@DoctorShroom]

Finally a game in the same vein as Call of Fries. (I'm actually not sure if it is, but it might be fun if you enjoyed this.)

[@joeleustice]

You can tell NL and DG have been talking more lately. :)

[@Microbex]

I could not find anything more important to see..

[@Flat_Erik]

absolutely gorguoes video and talk :)! Loved it.

[@arnenorigins2792]

getting over it+jump king+a box= oh noes

[@__w__o__w__]

I love that you know there's a guy in the box but can't see him, his orientation, what he's doing.

[@KaylaRequiem]

There is absolutely no problem with so called "Hundreds of anime style visual novels" coming out on steam. 1. That number is a grotesque exaggeration. 2. There is a tag system on steam that games use, and an advanced search function on steam, so you can find every genre of game you are actually looking for, including new release indie games. 3. To complain for the sake of complaining is to deepthroat chaos and accept the results, especially when theres an advanced search system that completely invalidates your reason for a complaint to begin with. Let people have their cake, they are in no way harming your own fork fed spongy goodness.

[@PositronPlays]

Instant hubris - the game

[@JoumyakuSalad]

I love NL but I also love visual novels, why can't we all just get along?

[@F4T4LS]

Day 1: It has been 23 hours of being stuck at the foot of the mountain, my head hurts watching this... I'm still waiting for either help or progression... Day 2: It has been 34 hours. I'm tired of screaming at my screen.. Depression took a hold of me, I don't know how much more of this I can take.. I might just end it here and now. Day 3: 69 hours in. I'm exhausted, at the foot of the mountain but high enough to jump. This is it boys. *C A R E E R - S U I C I D E*

[@jAyDeN30111]

I’m pogging all the way to the bank

[@merovetouchstone]

I'm incredibly frustrated that this landed before the last getting over it video

[@foreignuser_]

i knew he was a car hood apologist

[@brenduck]

recently i hung a cord that used to run under my bed over my bed, and seeing it in my periphery makes me think i have something stuck in my eyelash

[@hunterolivetree7692]

hey egg, play more

[@Osamodification]

Everything's easy! If you just practice enough!

[@benben8561]

You watch Egg for the dialogue, not always the content.

[@robinvik1]

Maybe the metaphor was inside us all along...

[@sylphsylph2118]

honestly ,i doubt it will change your mind but if you want to see an appeal toward anime visual novel you could try long live the queen ,since its also a ressource game with a lot to it

[@Nick-vq9ri]

7:34 Out of context

[@FreyrFox]

12:30 out of context

[@Nick-vq9ri]

@@FreyrFox Lmao

[@SBVCP]

I watched 5 minutes and I already pulling my hair in frustration. Now I know why the character is bald

[@kikosilva96]

NL please don't just dismiss the choices of the developers, and put the lower case S on the video title

[@Kineth1]

I scrolled through pages of comments looking for someone else who noticed this.

[@takedownthelights537]

I would never make it past Fork Valley... and that's okay.

[@Aeroxima]

It's not okay. You should take a deep, long look at yourself.

[@DaFieFie]

Everyone always saying it's a clone of Getting Over It, but show no respect to the OG Sexy Hiking.

[@rektemm353]

How FedEx delivers packages

[@visualeffectschannel]

This looks scary

[@HarrySon29]

Hello Daze

[@Drefanify]

So this is after Getting Over It as a series... Right?

[@MrStatistx]

"goofy game"...whenever you say goofy, I just think "Ahyuck"

[@RollinDolan7]

Oh dear what is this.

[@shawnmandaza658]

Someone should make a Getting Over It clone with NL quotes

[@Drephin]

You can hide the anime tag and visual novel tag and then you don’t see them.

[@PHeMoX]

I wouldn't say Dark Souls is comparable to something like this at all. Because Dark Souls involves timing and consistent controls, along with enemies having a fair response to player input. Yes, it can be difficult, but it is always fair. Games like Getting Over it and Boxman pretend the poor controls don't exist, but in reality these games aren't really all that fair. It's a trial and error game, not a skill based game. In that way, Dark Souls is a 100x times better game, because it rewards actual skill.

[@Kyrieru]

I thought you were going to say fps survival type games. But as someone who makes degenerate anime games I'm biased.

[@crunchwrapn2tacos996]

If anything getting over it is a clone of skyrim. Getting lost trying to climb to high horathgar.

[@aeteno703]

eggman’s struggle

[@oldmanprismo6236]

Very good!

[@tonym3697]

Solid Snake approves

[@bemo_10]

Northernlion Tries Rain World, when?

[@sirondium]

I want a boxman metroidvania

[@Aeroxima]

You think you do, but you don't.

[@Penkitten82]

POVERY

[@lordheadass8310]

12:31 live audio of NL in bed