Getting Power to the MidNite Solar All in One Hybrid Inverter

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

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Hats off to you being one of the first testers of this inverter most people wait a few years while still using thier old trusty outback or other bullet proof sytems.

[@bartcalder2791]

Another one who wants to see you put this inverter through your trials! Have bought MidNite's products in the past and all have been great.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@bartcalder2791 I’m looking forward to it as well! Thanks!

[@turtle1723]

I'm really looking forward to seeing this unit being tested. Thanks

[@jaysway007]

Thank you for your effort Adam, I've been waiting to see some actual action from this unit instead of the other "just unboxing and installing" videos. I'm new to solar, just purchased 9 Q.PEAK DUO L-G8.2 425 watt panels to start playing around with "I only paid 800 cash" and now my next step is choosing an inverter. I didn't want to get a small inverter just to buy a better unit later and I like the quality breakers in this build, so its looking like this may be "The One" for me, But I will wait for your next all hooked up video to decide. Keep up the great work, and hurry up with that next video!😁👍 Also...Thanks for all of the detail you provide in your videos, great for us newbies out here💯

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@jaysway007 glad to be able to help! I’ll get working on that video!

[@hendersonsobers396]

Great video Adam. This inverter is a beast.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@hendersonsobers396 thanks!

[@arrowpig1996]

Running the MidNite at midnight! Thanks for the video.

[@tinysparky]

When that fan turned on I thought oh snap, nobody will want that inverter as i assumed your bouncy house fan was outside. Glad to hear....or not hear after you mived it

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

🤣 Yeah that was the bounce house blower, not the inverter. I did do some sound tests with the MidNite: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3u2oGh7rKiloLM

[@retrozmachine1189]

Something that might be interesting to try is what size (amp rating) breakers is it capable of doing a rapid trip, ie short circuit, on vs inverter going into over-current protection and the whole house goes dark. Earth faults (hot to chassis) would cause a GFCI to trip so that sort of fault is not an issue.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@retrozmachine1189 hmm. I know the manual recommends a two gauge wire with a 125 amp breaker in order to use the full capability of the inverter. Normal breakers are meant to only run at 80% of their listed capacity. The MidNite breakers are rated to run at 100% capacity.

[@retrozmachine1189]

@@AdamDeLayDIY I was thinking more along the lines of the AC output when the inverter is supporting the load by itself, ie no mains supply present. Peak appears to be 13kVa (120v) or 20kVa (240v) for 1 second but perhaps it can do far more in a shorter time. I think your standard panel breakers are D curve which to me (applying D curve MCB performance) means magnetic (instant) trip requires at least 10 x the rated current. A 20A D MCB would require 200A at a minimum to ensure rapid trip, ie we'd be well into thermal trip territory which brings the possibility of the inverter going into overload protection and everything goes dark. It's something all inverter systems need to put up with so nothing against the Midnite, just idle curiosity.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@retrozmachine1189 no worries. A lot of it seems to be over my head. Sounds like you need to throw some videos on your channel of maxing out breakers… 😁

[@retrozmachine1189]

@@AdamDeLayDIY My poor little inverter would probably run and hide if I tried it.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@retrozmachine1189 🤣🤣🤣

[@Madsci-zy8wm]

While I don't like the typical high frequency, transformerless inverter like the 6000XP, because of their low surge capacity and shorter life expectancies for use in residential or commercial applications, Midnite Solar's, high quality, high frequency inverter products are a completely different story. I've been active in the renewable energy industry for over 25 years and can say without a doubt that you cannot find a better inverter product than a Midnight Solar inverter. You simply cannot go wrong with Midnite Solar inverter.

[@JMS7410-]

Adam... the wife has got be asking where all these shipping boxes are coming from haha. You'll need to build a new shed before winter so you have some place to test these without interrupting her Victron mains haha

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@JMS7410- yes she does…I’ve got a stack of boxes in the hallway right now for the next project… An outdoor shed (like the one Rodney Hunt put in) would be a great idea. I would just have to insulate and put heat in it for the winter. Hardest part would be all the prep work to get it up and running.

[@dominiekmeers4749]

Heya Adam, I noticed the second inverter goes into standby mode every now and then (it has happened twice now in 2 weeks), and I was wondering if you know what the cause of that is? Also, once it is in standby mode, do you know how to wake it up again? If i log into the inverter via bluetooth, I have to wait out the 300s timer (it's always at 300s when I log into the inverter), and once the timer runs out, and I hit the on/off button, it actually turns off the other inverter that it is in parallel with, so I have to turn both on again. Thanks in advance for any information you might have on this!

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@dominiekmeers4749 do you have them configured in parallel? If so, the inverters should act together. If one goes down, they both should. If they’re separate, I can’t say that I’ve seen that happen where they drop into standby mode on their own. As far as the 300 seconds, you can change that startup time if you’re not selling back to the grid. I believe it’s set to 300 seconds due to some UL requirement. To change that setting, go to Settings -> Grid -> “First Boot” as well as “Reconnect and Boot”. I have both of mine set to 10 seconds. If one is turning off on its own, it almost sounds like they’re not truly in parallel together. They should both start up and shut down together.

[@dominiekmeers4749]

@@AdamDeLayDIY Thank you for the info, much appreciated! I do have them in parallel (at least as far as I can tell from the app). Their parallel settings are turned on and their timers do sync up. I'm going to give support a call tomorrow and see what they say. FYI - 10 seconds is so much more conveniont, thank you!!

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@ good luck! Let me know what you find out! I still have to make a video on how I have everything paralleled.

[@dominiekmeers4749]

@@AdamDeLayDIY I'm looking forward to this video! It would be great to compare notes and see if there is anything else I may have missed. I contacted support this morning but have not heard back so far.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@dominiekmeers4749 I talked to Rick today and we brainstormed your issue. Something I might suggest to test (which won't change any settings) is to grab a multimeter and check for continuity on the parallel pins on the two inverters. The terminal blocks have 2 sets of pins labeled 1-4 on each inverter. They are connected together, so you should be able to check for continuity between each inverter for pins 1-4.

[@justinmagnuson1852]

So you can only change settings through the app? No way to navigate on the unit itself?

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@justinmagnuson1852 that’s correct. There was actually a discussion on this very point last night on the DIY solar forum. Instead of rehashing it all, I’ll just share the link to the discussion. diysolarforum.com/threads/midnite-solar-announced-their-new-10kw-aio-at-intersolar-today.76840/page-56#post-1132716

[@retrozmachine1189]

@@AdamDeLayDIY Front panel menus can be a pain to navigate but better to be able to do it than discover the app doesn't run properly or at all on the latest smartphone ... or for that matter an old one with an OS that is not supported by the app.

[@DanBurgaud]

4:00 Your European audience will definitely complain why your wires do not have ferrules. I am not European. I am not complaining... 8:35 "...when it's after 0230..." I can relate to that. Last May, I upgraded my Solar, I started around 3PM and finished it at 4 in the next morning. I like working alone when no one is there to bother me.

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@DanBurgaud I don’t recall seeing a ferrule requirement in the manual. Sometimes they cause more problems than benefits. I’m with you on working on a project when no one’s around to bother you. Usually helps get things done a lot faster. Now if I could just get rid of the camera…I could be done even faster! 😁

[@niktak1114]

We don't use finely stranded wire for AC wiring in the US which is why you don't see ferrules very frequently. Because of this, our terminals are designed to work with solid or coarsely stranded wire. Using ferrules would actually reduce the contact area in most cases.

[@retrozmachine1189]

@@niktak1114 MCBs, RCBOs etc have tunnel terminals compatible with solid and coarse stranded (think 7 strands in a roughly a 13 AWG size wire). One country will tell you things will set on fire if you don't use a ferrule on any stranded, the next will chastise you for using a ferrule. It's all a bit silly really. Wago Vs wirenut sort of level.

[@Roll2Videos]

I hate it when you think something is being recorded, but it's not. That feeling of disappointment

[@AdamDeLayDIY]

@@Roll2Videos yep, especially when it’s a critical part of what your doing…